[WARFRAME NEWS] NEW INCARNON BUFFS! Update 33.6.4 Overview + Gameplay | Echoes Of Duviri
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- Nice surprising hotfix with a ton of changes to the newest incarnon genesis options. That boar SC is really good and the angstrum is feeling quite good too. Maybe will finally make a gorgon video.
Link to patch notes: forums.warframe.com/topic/136...
Link to frost video discussed in this video: • [WARFRAME] Icy Avalanc...
0:00 Intro
1:00 Patch Notes Start
1:52 Why No Anku Buffs?
2:00 Gammacor Buffs
4:45 Angstrum Buffs
6:45 Boar Buffs
8:40 Gorgon Buffs
11:00 Overguard Changes
14:15 Outro
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The incarnon system is suffering from what seems to be DE's self-imposed design ideal that it should be significantly different than the base gun.
For many, probably most of them, I would rather turn the dial to 11 on whatever it's already doing as that's what made me enjoy the weapon in the first place. My favourites are the miter, lex and vasto which each express an Nth level evolution of the base gun's identity: Sawblades, Stopping Power, Six-shooter Quickdraw.
they should be different, otherwise DE would be working in a limited design space and making changes that could have just been modded. the whole concept is that its an alt-fire mode. it wouldn't really make sense, nor would it be very exciting, for the gun to "transform" into the exact same thing but with more damage. the evolutions already do turn the base gun up to 11 anyway.
Agreed. Having a gun with a clear and unique design suddenly become something different but not particularly stronger just seems dumb.
Funny thing is that the Dual Toxocyst is probably the only gun that is close to it's og design, only that it's incarnon becomes slightly aoe and full auto.
@@dmariojohnson2653It has richosheting rounds, not aoe
@@addmen96 oh yeah you're right, my bad
Noticed Styanax's 4 doesn't destroy arbitration drones anymore 😞
Stealth nerf, rip
I mean, they are supposed to be immune to abilities, so I guess it might have been a bug
Yeah im sure it was a bug, but it was still stealthily fixed@@bestgril2154
It immune to all aoe damage, all status, all crit so it shoule be that
I noticed that a while ago such horrors
Gammacor incarnon should have gotten a chain upgrade for one of the tiers
people acted like i was crazy for saying jackal shouldn't appear in the first circuit round before you have any decrees... I saw nobody else suggest this but then DE changed it anyway. nice. the styanax 'nerf' was expected. i think that change was reasonable and still leaves his augment in a good spot. the incarnon buffs are great, i'm actually going to try using the boar and angstrum now. and don't forget, the Prisma Ohma is now tradeable!
Overguard is still one shot on high lvl, no matter if its 50k or 250k. Styanax cap does not matter
I love this "nerf" because of that, he is still op af
@@marcusvinicius917 yeah i didnt mean like it was bad before the nerf. You will still stack it super fast, trigger gating and stack it back again.
@@alexchernikov6276 Yeah.. This is good. Issue was that people found away to get millions before.
Gorgon was a welcome change, i mean i still wish the incarnon form was just a heavy chaingun to keep with its theme of being a machine gun, but not having to let go of the fire button and click and hold again to fire another shot is pretty nice QoL.
shots fired so fast it turned into a beam weapon
Unless you are me with no fire rate buffs because i like the fire rate on the gorgon wraith as it is lol@@Boiled_Pizza
@@Darthmufinyep
You don't Gorgon for incarnon. You Gorgon for Gorgon, broseph. The incarnon genesis should be enjoyed solely as a stat boost.
Angstrum change is huge, might make it the best incarnon for this week in all honesty
the headshot thig last time is really buggy bc of the aoe thing bomba thing
The infested are finna be getting whooped lol😂😂
Looking forward to try Gorgon incarnon!
The only thing I hate is the wisp "fix" the cowl actually looked great with other helms
Gammacor really needed a boost in the range of the pull effect.
5 meters is not much for a grouping ability. The damaging explosion could have stayed 5m but the pull effect needs to be bigger.
Should have been around 8m - 11m pull effect, similar to glaive detonate ranges.
Glaive only Detonates in 4 Meters Though 🤔
@@lookalike4805 There is glaive weapon type and then the Glaive weapon itself.
The Styanax nerf was legitimate. I still think it is an excellent augment that compensates his lack of survivability, but now we will just have a less linear gameplay.
Gorgon buff is... welcomed. I have a riven with +Crit chance +Multishot +Fire rate and -ammo maximum. This is gonna be huge.
I'd say the nerf mainly effects lower levels. At high level, the overguard will be shredded anyway, so it's more about the constant overguard-gate it provides, which is still stupid strong. As long as you're spamming Styanax's 4 (which you should be since he literally has infinite energy with nourish + rally point), you and your team will be invincible
Theres no nerf bro, doesn't matter the max amount you get if you are always getting because it's his main thing, like never really changed so i am glad af. I can get 50k+ overguard but when i was able to get 5millions they didn't even really damaged that. Idk about 9999levels tho since i don't care about that bullshit, for 2-3 hours he is the same
@@jonahbrown5669yeah pretty much this, i m glad they suck at nerfings lol
Lol "trivialize content" as their reasoning for Styanax nerf. As if Revenant running around immortal is normal. I hate any Warframe with any semblance of survivability is always nerfed but Revenant is always left alone.
@@criomede9536 yeah but honestly the nerf doesn't matter, im doing hours just fine with him in sp like before, revenant is disgusting tho, im not complaining since when im stressed i just turn off my brain with him lol
Gaz i love what you do as far as WF news
As long as I can keep my 0.5 secs of invincibility on Styanax I am happy :)
Hopefully that “future hotfix” includes a buff to most melee incarnons, not just anku.
I had an old insane Boar riven kicking around from 100% status shotgun meta (MS/Dam/Status, -Corpus) - Can get the Incarnon mode up to 500~600% status chance depending on set up. Makes me happy seeing it get over 100% status per projectile again on base form.
Styanax could "trivialize challenging content." Nerfed.
Meanwhile, Revenant Mesmer Skin which is FAR stronger than Styanax Overguard ever was has remained unchanged for YEARS.
I'm not saying Revenant should be nerfed or Styanax was fine. But could we please consider establishing a consistent baseline for how strong things should be?
Styanax was fine, the game is designed around the bs powercreep and being able to completely bend the non-existent balance over and go to town
imagine if they buff xaku augment and instead of life is overguard
Also can recast even if you can't disarm enemies
r the other incarnons going to be able to be purchasable for plat?
Good to see these fixes. It would be nice if they did something as nice as put the words "incarnon form" on the UI when the melees are in incarnon form as well. I'm shocked that they just didnt remove the ally part of intrepid stand
Sounds like they're probably going to completely change what the anku incarnon does. I assume that's their intention if they're leaving its rework until the next update. It is by far one of the most disappointing incarnons that we've received.
Frost is amazing now
Lezgoooo
Best change was the gammacor change. Being a utility incarnon, that atrocious charge time was such a hindrance to use it fluidly. Also so much more status to abuse it as a grouping primer. Love it.
Damn it. Just was building up my Sty
He should still be fine, right?
He's still extremely strong. One of the best support in the game, comparable to Wisp
He’ll be fine still in most stuff. 200k OG was still getting clapped by corrupted in SP anyway
R.I.P. Forma 😭
Gash Angstrum join to alone Torid familly
Angstrum might just have become my new secondary. I'm happy.
THE ANGSTRUM REALLY NEEDS THE INCARNON CHARGE BUFF HOLYSHIITTT NICEEE
Incarnons need a buff for lower levels ngl because they become really useless because how slow they charge other than pistols idk about melees
Was wondering if anyones health is messed up on warframes. All my warframes health has dropped. I had a 1000 on Saryn and now its 250.
Nvm frigging decaying dragon key
Never Gets Old. 🤓
The styanax nerf and frost buff are fair... even if it was fun gets all that overguard on Styanax.
meanwhile kullervo dying in teh corner
@@GazTTV It's a punishment for his seven sins
@@GazTTV I mean DE has always made certain frame guinepigs/tests for ideas. Like Lavos.. love him but he was an experiment for timeout abilities but he feels clunky ASF and will never change until Lavos prime so they can make money
Styanax keeps so strong
5:29 angstrum performing ok with corpus bane
So like did they not test out that stynax aug at all before releasing it?
Which is crazy to me when you think about the fact they used to showcase the frames during their livestreams back in the day.
You’re overguard carried over from Styanax to Frost. You didn’t get 15k in one cast with frost. His augment still only gives 60 per enemy so you’ll just have to spam it to build up to 15-60k just to get one shot. Not worth besides gating.
guess it depends on the mission type, in a survival it will stack up very fast
Not 60 unless you have no strength
@@KhristianM. I should’ve clarified 60 at base. But even at 300% power it’s only 180 per enemy so it’s still not great in Steel path. It’s just a spammy form of shield gate.
Did they fix combat discipline taking overguard instead of health?
just checked the patch notes and it is not mentioned in the fixes
Already huh? I knew Mr Warframe guy's video wasn't going to help. The Gorgon's original incarnon form reminded me of the Lanka. This looks better.
Angstrum is the strongest 2ndary weapon RN hope they don’t nerf the riven dispo
If more people start using it, it will get adjusted.
It sounds like DE is preparing to make a 3rd Disposition Category exclusively for Incarnon Weapons. 🤔
Frost is the Main Kharacter of Warfame, we winning❄
gorgon my beloved 😂
Frost and Rhino, 15k overguard on a sim, on a real fight maybe 8k.
Stynaax , gives 45k to the team....
Why would you not use stynaax
Ofcourse these losers had to nerf Styanax. RIP styanax
He's still good, let's not act as if the numbers mattered you'll be benefitting from the gating regardless
13:51 the 15k overgard is from styanax 4th and not from frost
good to know, i rarely look at my health bar while using that augment
@@GazTTV i hope they soon fix this bug where you keep the overguard after changing warframe 🥲
Wish theyd fix the soma smh
It fixed. But de hate soma so just accept it.
They said more was planned , I’d be happy if they just gave it same cc as main mode
*ahem* ANOTHER Frost Dub
👌🏽🥶
Was not surprised Styanax augment got nerfed. It was too fun. DE hates us breaking the game.
I just want the augments that supply overguard to others to only supply overguard to oneself. No need for single augment support builds.
So is frost overguard build now viable?
Overguard was never Viable. 🤔
Overguard's only saving grace is that it gives you a watered down version of shield gating, only in lower levels are you able to benefit from the status and cc immunity that it provides
Welp. Styanax was a fun meme for a bit, but I'm not gonna go out of my way to use him anymore. In order to keep that overgaurd up with that limit you have to constantly be in your 4 for the whole mission. Weapons? What are those? That cap is really, really lame
Meanwhile, Revenant is running around immortal without a care in the world. Enemy dealing 1 billion damage? Nope. Will just use up 1 charge regardless. I hate how any other Warframe that's trying to be a tank is always treated with nerfs immediately while Revenant is always untouched ffs.
I was thinking this too, that sounds like LESS dynamic gameplay to me.
Rev is one of Reb's favorites. Of course he's untouched :c
@criomede9536 I also really like revenant. So useful. But really though, I want more options. Styanax was actually viable once you hit a couple hundred thousand, and could just sit there for a sec if needed. I really, really hate shield gating, so this is another blow to my options.
@@XelthorTheBlind Yeah I don't like using shield gating as well. I mean, I respect it, I know it's effective but it's just not my style (also hate taking Decayed Dragon Key in and out of my gear wheel). Revenant and Rhino are ok but Styanax is one of my new faves atm because his overguard provides support for the entire team while being constantly on the offensive with his 4. I love that.
Honestly, the cap wasn't needed. Heck, Revenant's Mesmer charge guarding ability is infinite and uncapped (ie enemy can deal 999999 B damage and it still would just consume 1 charge). Meanwhile, Overguard will never be able to tank close to that much, especially at higher levels. All the 9B overguard memes need to be built up over time. Revenant gets infinite guard from the get-go with 1 button press.
If they insist putting a cap on very defensive ability ever, they should start with Revenant. Maybe like every charge will just tank up to 50k damage (scaling with Strength), so a 100k enemy attack will consume 2 charges instead of just 1. That just seems fair to me.
Generally try not to be critical and just enjoy the game, but I think it’s pretty bs that the first round of purchasable incarnons come out all pretty obviously not good, and once they are out of rotation and can’t be farmed for 7 weeks, they all get pretty sizeable buffs so people buy more of them, might just be me but I do think that’s a little shady
You're abit late to The Party, Mate... Farming them was so bad that Buying then was superior Anyways. 👀
@@lookalike4805 farming them takes like 2 hours?
If the Stars Align ? Yes....
But you are playing an RNG + Buggy Game Mode.... So it's Obviously not going to be 2 Hours every Time. That's just Wishful Thinking. 😐
@@lookalike4805 there’s not really any rng involved at all, if the rng you’re talking about is the frames and weapons you get, you should have enough of your arsenal at a usable point to where you very rarely get something that’s not usable, and even if you do, go in, play one round, and then leave and restart, idk how long it takes you to complete the circuit but it shouldn’t take that long
That ok its now madden game because it u doing steel path at level 9999 it won't stop help
dont understand what you mean
level cap syndrome be like
Lol stynax nerf, meanwhile Mesmer skin augment is perfectly balanced 🤣
Typical Warframe Update. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
This instantly came to my mind as well... It's kinda fair to wanna have one frame be able to do it but not another one intended to be different, but the talk about design space does make me wonder what EXACTLY they want to avoid here.
@@Gnurklesquimp2 yeah that's what made me double take. I mean at some point the overgaurd value doesn't matter. because you'll accidentally step on a blitz eximus shock-wave and eat 4 million or more damage past a certain point making the integer you put on overgaurd pointless lol.
It's amazing to see an oberon with like, 10k armor and almost 6k health still get 1-tapped by blitz 950-1000 level range lol
meanwhile revenant just kind of has nidus's undying passive as a cast-able ability with no set up, and can give it to the rest of the team. At that point overgaurd is the least of your problems in "design space" IMO lol
because warframe nerfs and buffs things based off of pick rate and not how broken it is. The only time people use rev is for meme builds or archon hunts. his pick rate is low, just like octavia. octavia is easy mode and she’s my favorite frame because i can pretty much afk steel essence,but people find her so boring i never have to worry about her being nerfed because of that
@@xylem0195 +Revenant can have more than enough stacks on a build that also 1shots whole groups of level 10k, makes sense.
I mean, I love how broken this game gets at the extreme end, it's fun to bring impossible glass cannons supported by Mesmer Shield and stuff, it's just that DE's nerfs make me wonder what their own stance on it is.
I wish they explained their exact rationale whenever they do something like the Breach Surge dmg cap etc., everyone is always just left scratching their heads at unsatisfactory explanations that seem oblivious to the game this all exists in.
The cap on overguard is so dumb 15k is paper maybe cap it at 500k 100k even
And do it for all 3 frames kullervo stynax and frost
As hilarious as it is to gain 250k overshield, I knew this was not intended. I’m glad there’s a cap and that the cap is fair and not something like “2000 max.”
250K is nothing though 🤔
250k is a few hits from steel infested chargers or corrupted butchers
Gammacore incarnon still pretty disappointing
Controller Support Still Broken On Steam. 😐
It's a sign that you should ascend to the next level
Uninstalled the Game Last Week. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
@@lookalike4805 I was talking about mouse and keyboard, but maybe this is your ascension instead
Choose a better opener catch phrase plz
don’t fix what isn’t broken. he’s fine.
Im sick of people crying in warframe i started playing when it dropped on p4 i have everything i need didnt even start all the new guns nothing but op guns at this point nothing but skill less player with op CZcams build an yes i have rivens for all them im just waiting for riven nurfs to build all of them tune they in De needs to put there foot down
no buff to Dread or Despair - I sleep, also its pathetic they limit Styanax when Revenant is a blatant god mode cheat
Despair incarnon is perfectly fine lol , dread is just unoriginal tbh
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That “what up dudes” at the beginning is unbelievably cringe and weird.
Ur the cringe one here