The Lore Of The NEW BANISHED SPARTANS (And My Thoughts...)
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With the new Halo Infinite update came NEW BANISHED SPARTAN ARMOR & a NEW story about the FIRST SPARTAN to join the Banished... This one is packed full of meaty lore, so this is The Lore Of The NEW BANISHED SPARTANS (And My Thoughts...)
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Okay. Remember when Griffin said to Chief about the other spartans? Holy s**t.
The lengths 343 will go to to not bring back playable elites is crazy
You ain’t ever lied 😭
they are racist to elites
I was thinking the same thing!!! 😂😂😂
Except it's far easier to do this than playable elites. The greater lengths would be doing playable elites
Insurgents like the Venezians have been present since the first book.
I kinda wished that they would've done this as a part of the campaign, having Chief combat banished spartans.
Agreed
They already have spartan AI in multiplayer, they likely could’ve if they wanted to
I doubt we will ever get a fps scenario where we will fight humans anytime soon
I thought it would have made a great plot point for some DLC which we'll now never get...😢
@@DMGSLThat AI isn’t good enough. If we ever fight a Spartan in the campaign, it needs to feel like you’re fighting another man-made demigod.
I like this (especially the Waypoint Chronicle) but the armours give me the reaction of "Why can't these be playable Elites or even playable Brutes?"
Yeah...
@@HiddenXperiaAlthough then again, whenever I think of playable Elites (or Brutes) my mind always goes back to the thought of "Sure, this would be cool BUT... how much stuff like Silent Shadow or Arbiter armours would be in the store instead of passes?"
@@Jedi_Spartan_38 NGL, I probably would pay for an Arby 2/3 set or an honor guard.
Playable Elites and or Brutes is wayyy outside of 343's development scope and desires for Halo Infinite's live service
Bro 343 has said we don't get playable elites due to the hitbox no being the same as a spartan on headshots for exemple
But now you can buy a big ol' banished looking forehead for your spartan that's 3 times the size of an elite's head, can't make this shit up
Maybe it’s just me but these waypoint stories have been sort of fanfic-y? Like, selecting these obscure reclaimer saga era characters and making them SUPER special.
“Hey remember that random AI sheriff guy from Halo 5? Well now he’s the leader of Cortana’s army who philosophizes like the Didact, out-of-character”
“Hey, remember that random person from that one halo comic who wasn’t too important or noteworthy? Well now she’s a Banished Spartan AND Escharum personally likes her”
It just… idk these stories all read like the stories I see in some personal fan blogs about weird background characters they’re personally attached to. It’s just not compelling because of how goofy it is. It also doesn’t help how everything needs to tie into Spartans somehow.
The idea of the ALIEN faction needing HUMAN Spartans rather than making their own ALIEN super soldiers is just lol
Yeah, sounds like a corporate decision to keep these noobs away from the lore-proper...
Someone is holding back a "last jedi style" flood of mediocrity..
They'll run out of goodwill with their OG writers at the end of the line.. But so far they're still running a well oiled machine for books.
I feel you, it's cool to see the insurrectionists are siding with the banished; that makes sense, but it doesn't need to link to previous characters so much - we can have new characters!
I fully agree. Its complete BS to me. Theyre fucking it up😅
Ngl I like the single character concept behind it, but when theirs multiple Spartans I do think it just dilutes the concept, like the CW meme "and you're a Spartan and you're and a Spartan"
I mean Haruspis is Halo fan and not really professional writer as far as I know
Crazy how this is all we're getting in terms of "story" for a HALO game of all things. This franchise got big because of campaign. It hurts to see it disrespected like this 😭
We have to get our lore from ARMOUR DESCRIPTIONS NOW
@@dragonfruitsalad Well I mean, we still have the books but I know what a niche and totally different form of media they are. Hell I only got into them about 2 weeks ago with Halo Epitaph lol, but they're literally the only good Halo stories left. The games have just butchered Halo lore to the point where yeah, we have to get our in-game lore from goddamn armor descriptions. How is this Halo anymore 😭
At least it's actually in a game, and not just a fucking blog post on the website written by a community manager like 90% of Halo's story has been for the last half decade or more
@@Lazypackmule The books: *Am I a joke to you?!*
@@theunderdog9353 I said 90%
Cause what we need are more Spartans in Halo. Not literally anything else 🙃.
It's a lot like in Warhammer 40k where like 95% of the content is about Space Marines and not everything else. It gets exhausting lol
What we need are Spartans, Trained by the Banished, Augmented by the Banished, Given MJOLNIR by the Banished, The Banished who had their homeworld and two moons blown up, The Banished who have lost every major conflict they have ever fought in.
And are apart of a species with no economy, resources and are endangered, The Banished who are somehow First-Ordering harder than the First-Order, In being nothing more than a small scavenged roaming fleet, But also having the manpower and ships to dominate half the bloody galaxy.
Those Banished, Who after an ENTIRE STRATEGY SCALE GAME about fighting them and destroying their only major space-vessel, A Carrier, Just magically got given a new carrier, with no reason or backstory, **TEN YEARS** After a book trilogy that destroyed/captured all the remaining carriers of that type.
Because... you know, After failing more than a dozen campaigns across games and novels, having their species become endangered after their home system blew up, being nothing more than a small scavenged fleet, and having their arses kicked halfawy across the milkyway, Not even being able to make their own AI... They just... magically, Started making Spartans...
Christ, This is going into "The First Order is just a small splinter fleet" to "The First Order has a gazzilion star destroyers" level of inconsistent faction scaling, When it comes to the Banished.
@@Patriarch.Chadimusbanished spartans feel kinda reminiscent of chaos space marines
@@chibipotate Bro absolutely fucking real lmao
@@vietnamesenoodle3280 Chaos Space Marines make sense. Banished Spartans, do not.
The fact that 343 would rather contrive a way for Spartans to be literal traitors to the UNSC and humanity as a whole rather than just giving us playable elites infuriatese to no end. Not a fan of this lore one bit tbh, its the antithesis of the Spartans' most dominant trait: loyalty.
Well these spartans are washout cause of augmentation failures,basically these spartans are mostly flawless cause they've gone insane,all they see is blood so having their request met at all times might just be enough for them to fight for the faction that gives them this freedom
Spartans haven't been loyal since Spartan IVs.
Well I mean there's a perfectly fine reason as to why these PARTICULAR Spartans aren't loyal (augmentations and shit) but also playable elites are way out of 343s budget and judging by the recent Microsoft news they aren't going to offer a lending hand to help. Might as well just wait for the next halo game being developed rn.
There's only one proper Spartan-IV traitor, Ilsa Zane, and her story goes way back, since Halo 4-5 days.
The other ones are 100% insurrectionists augmented by the Banished and Innies to be able to wear their "homemade" MJOLNIR. They are not really Spartans, more like Militia Supersoldiers who likely would get clapped by any Spartan-II or III, but might have a good chance against a IV because Halo Hippocratica mentioned that a known Venezian Jackal is gathering rumbledrugs, so maybe they are trying to pull an old Prelate trick without knowing, using in-armor injectors to boost supersoldier performance as a last resort.
You clearly don’t listen. If you paid any attention you’d know the banished take normal humans and do augmentations themselves. And Spartans are just humans, we’re not talking about Spartan IIs anymore, so what kind of ridiculous statement is it that their number one trait is loyalty.
Maybe we should call 'Banished Spartans' Trojans* instead?
Cool idea
You mean Trojans?
Yeah, thanks for spotting the typo lol
The Banished Trojans. That has a nice ring to it.
I love this
Am I the only one who doesn't like that everyone can just make spartans now, they becoming like spacemarines and nothing special, can't we have more focus on the unsung human hero's
who
Chips mcdubbo
@@jmgonzales7701 who what?
@@havok93 bloody oath
“Atriox sees you for what you are, and for what you can be, for the fury that fuels your desire is his fury too. We shall do great things together, hunt powerful prey, and plunder ancient treasures, you shall be paid in blood and sport and spoils, and you shall never bow again!” ✍️🔥🔥🔥🔥
-Escharum
Escharum always had a flair for the Shakespearean monologue, right from the first trailer for Infinite...good to see someone in the writers' room remembers that.
Buzz: Spartans, Spartans everywhere.
So, could we call these banished Spartans spartan-V’s of sorts? It sounds like their augments are worse than the S-IV’s “there are many paths to transhumanism, some better left untrodden” and that would stick with the prior trend of Spartans after Spartan-II’s getting weaker.
Presumably. The text for Savage also sounds like their mods are a backslide in terms of failure rate to something nearly as bad as the initial augmentations on the II's.
Sounds like they're going for Banished-aligned insurrectionists running sloppy augmentations reverse-engineered from the partial data Iratus was able to transmit before being stopped.
I mean it's probably just a shit ton of steroids.
But Spartan-III augmentations are on par with Spartan-IIs…
This has been confirmed on multiple occasions. The only real difference is the survival rates and size of the Spartans
@@sargeantBonesWell the Innies had developed a steroids of sorts that they used to combat Spartans, but it would eventually kill the user a certain period after injection.
It was used by the ODST Baird onboard the UNSC Heart of Midlothian in one of the Halo: Evolutions shorts I believe. My memory on this is somewhat foggy though as it has been a while
not modded by oni, not spartans. not all modded humans in the galaxy are "spartans"
Boy, it would be nice to have a Halo game that uses the lore
The Banished are so cool man, their colour style is so good, their weapons and vehicles are awesome. Its a real shame infinite didnt really give us the true Banished we know from Halo Wars 2
Well, there's always the next game
Agreed. I just love how the Banished are basically the complete opposite of the Covenant. Their culture is so cool and their designs are amazing
Their style is peak👌, everything about them is so cool!
Yeah they are, @@kwright663. I, personally, say Atriox is an awesome villain
Originally the covenant where supposed to be in infinite, The banished got retrofitted onto them
There are just too many spartans now. They don't feel special anymore, especially when so many turn traitor and we've never encountered one in game.
It's wild how the number one lore explorer for Halo is actively saying not to buy the cosmetics, respect
Spending money is immensely stupid these day you should be growing potato’s not buying digital cosmetics in a digital game you don’t own
@@nothanks9503 I agree man, it preys on short term dopamine of the players.
@@joestrk1333 Like I would even say if the game is good for something beneficial like relaxation or it’s mentally enriching or inspiring then buying a game is a good use of money but if it’s just a dopamine hamster wheel no and certainly not cosmetics in a game particularly a game you don’t even own
God I wish they made a whole game or story DLC about this concept.
An actual Spartan vs Spartan boss fight that isn’t limited to a cutscene would go so hard
Would honestly be so down for a Spartan bossfight, I legit dreamt of that when they were teasing Locke as a bad guy in H5 and all we ended up getting was a slap-off between him and Chief 😭
@@HiddenXperia It reminds me a lot of the original Halo 5 trailers with Locke and Chief: "All hail the conquering hero." There was so much they could've done with two rival spartans, a la Dante and Vergil. The Master Chief has never had a proper foil/rival other than the Arbiter. I kind of wish we got more long-term villains in the 343 era.
Cant have obvious branching out for Infinite or anything Halo. 343 and fellow fans WANTS it. M$ safistically says.. ""NO promising fun allowed to develop!!! Even if it brings profit and joy for all parties in in the long run!!!! It makes too much sense!"" Investors with whip in hand...
We could have had story DLC, Flood horror game, Halo Helljumpers, co-devved with some from Arrowhead even in jolly co-operation!
But nah.. cant have that😁✋️🖕🤬
Bruh that shit is just PVP LOOOL 😆
Would be cool as a spinoff, that you are a banished Spartan, also is a good oppertunity to flash out the banished more and give people a look into their ranks like they did with arbiter in h2
Atriox is wise and open minded enough to know that not all humans are responsible for Cortana, he would be smart enough to understand that the UNSC was responsible for Cortana and not all humanity, just as he realized Elites werent so much his enemy as The Covenant and its leadership was hence why the Banished includes all major species from the universe including humans.
Let's be real, Atriox is so dangerous because he's a wise and strong leader. While he is ambitious and that does put him as a villain, he is also both understandable and unbeatable. That being said, the true weakness of the Banished is that it's so heavily reliant upon Atriox himself that we see in Infinite that it barely functions without him.
Kind of like Alexander the Great.
@JohnPeacekeeper yeah there have been several armies throughout history, that once the Commander was successfully eliminated then the whole army fell into Chao and Ultimately defeat. The Banished had a chance to continue....until Chief killed Escharum.
Successful leaders create a ladder to create more leaders, like the NCO Corp of both the US Marine Corp and UNSC Marine Corp.
@@JohnPeacekeeper "unbeatable" you say about the one character that only shows up in cutscenes, and even then it's from thin air and always at his opponents back so he doesn't have to fight.
The fact that it's canon that some of the human outer colonies and the Insurrection joined the Banished honestly makes a lot of sense. I can see how the Innies would want to do that given that the UNSC wants no part with them. Honestly it's pretty smart on the Banished part to take the opportunity to want to use the deteriorated Innies/UNSC relations to their advantage and recruiting more humans into their ranks.
Atriox has himself a boon of a partnership here. The covenant made enemies of humanity, but with him cooperating with them, he’s reaping benefits the covenant never had, even having capabilities to create Spartans and Mjolnir armors for his own forces. I know the UNSC have to be terrified, but what’s worse, there’s still a flood infected Spartan out there in space. I feel it will grow in power as this conflict ramps up. I know chief will be focused on the endless, but their needs to be a spin off game with a Spartan 4 having to fight banished humans and Spartans like in halo 3 odst where the rookie fought covenant.
Lets see if Ilsa zane gets the zuka zaniame treatment when she fights chief
Get cocky hunting the demon > Ambush him in an elevator > You're sat in a Shade Turret, literally impossible to fumble the kill > One grenade drops the elevator and snaps your spine
Poor Zuka :( Something tells me Ilsa wouldn't meet the same fate, but who knows. Thanks for the support chieftain!
@@HiddenXperia been watching since 2020 thought you needed some more support
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@@HiddenXperiabro Everytime I meet Zuka in the Maw I always have saved at least two SPNKr rockets and just give him both barrels. Idiot never had a chance.
I had the idea to make a machinima series loosely connected to Red Vs Blue where the villain was a Banished Spartan and now I have decided I am definitely doing it with my film studio called Sword and Steel Studios. Episode 1 has been fully written
Cool!
They call them Live Service Games, so why are they always Dead on Arrival? 😈
Would love to see banished human enemies in Halo 7
They should’ve been in Infinite.
@@shreksnow1918 a lot should have been in infinite. lets move on
Ah well, not the end of the world lol
How would they work tho? What niche could they fulfill as an enemy unit that doesn't step into the territory of existing enemies?
@@budfug8691 halo infinite shouldn’t have been made
I’m not gonna lie, I don’t like this update. The idea that Venezia went from indifferent to the banished to starting to sound like a banished pseudo-capital annoys me. I also don’t like that they make it sound as if the whole outer colonies are banished aligned. Or that the brutes are able to make Spartans of any kind.
What's wrong with them making Spartans at this point they seem to be the strongest faction if we don't count the endless and just because they make Spartans doesn't mean it has to be perfect they can have some flaws and make them slightly weaker than most Spartans but still stronger than most of their troops and humans heck most Spartans in their group could have just joined and modified their armor to look like banished equipment or get their own Spartan armor made by the banished.
I mean they stripped spartans of their armors like griffin so they learned how to make them,also those planets are full of inurectionists and they are kinda loosing against the unsc therefore they joined the banished cause they sure as shit aren't killed by them whereas the unsc executes on the spot
@@Automaton237 cuz it gets rid of the uniqueness of the Spartans. That was supposed to always be humanity’s ace card in the franchise. It’s one thing for one to defect, it’s another for them to say “oh yeah other people can make Spartans now.”
@@nicolae-alexandruluca7853 idk what book ur getting that from. Every book I’ve read that are set in the post war outer colonies, the unsc generally tries VERY hard to play ball with the outer colonies. They don’t just execute people on the spot, nor are they trying to enforce their rule. The ace of spade trilogy is set entirely in the outer colonies, most of the time they’re on a planet they’re on Venezia, and the unsc is virtually non existent out there. Sure the unsc run ops in the colonies, but they’re to resecure stolen weapons and shit like that. Venezia was the only one to show any kind of hostility post war since they blew up a damaged unsc ship that was asking them for help.
Can't believe Halo now has Chaos Space marines
40k incel try not to mention 40k in every little sci-fi Convo challenge impossible
@@rushpatriot2866cry about it
@@rushpatriot2866The comparison is still spot-on but it is wrong.
The Chaos Space Marines would be the Executors from the Created and the whole Fireteam of Flood Spartans that Halo Saturn devouring his son canonized as floating with a Condor with a slip-space drive somewhere in the Galaxy.
The Banished Spartans are more like the Tau Space Marines, 1:1 recreations of the IVs when it comes down to biology and hardware but definitely lack the professional expertise and thus get rolled by anyone competent enough or the ACTUAL old Spartans (IIs or IIIs would break their knees slowly with a spoon if they had the chance).
These guys should be thanking God that Emile died on Reach, he would be first in line on UNSC/ONI missions against Insurrectionist objectives with Banished Humans and Banished Spartans, he could not stand insurrectionists, he could not stand aliens, he would not keep quiet with Insurrectionists allied with Insurrectionist aliens.
These guys also don't know that Six's death probably helped them a lot too considering his track record of squashing holdouts and militias with no evidence left behind.
@@rushpatriot2866 40k is great
@@rushpatriot2866weirdooo
i just found out that halo 4 actually had playable elites but it was cut, saw some dude playing as one in the alphas so i guess 343 didnt consider it important enough.
Conceptually and lorewise I kind of hate it. Design wise it's cool.
But to be honest I hate most of what 343 has done to what was my favorite franchise growing up
at thia point to me halo died at reach, and 4-infinite are just bad fanfics
Wow, 343 is really working hard to keep their "fucking Halo up" streak alive.
You know if you think about it the spartan 3s and atrioxs clan were built for similar purposes during the covenant war. So would be interesting if some of them joined too.
Yeah but the key difference is Humanity was literally fighting for survival against an alien hegemony, and now you have a Spartan joining this different alien organization consisting of the same races that tried to wipe out your species.
If memory serves Kurt 051 train the Spartan 3s and literally told them what they were fighting for and against in Ghosts of onyx.
I would assume most if not all of humanity would be xenophobic especially if they fought in the human Covenant War.
And if anyone has read the books they would know a lot of the stuff isn't even propaganda when it literally happened Roots jackals and grunts eating people 🤦🏾
I like your thinking but the guy who commented before me is correct. The 3s would be among the last to join the banished. The banished gives them another reason to spill alien blood. They literally live to kill aliens
@@paytonallen1027not only that but Spartan 3’s know their fight is to bring time for humanity so they would never join the banished.
Damn, just imagine we got these stories in the actual game. I feel like 343 forget that this is a video game franchise.
sooooooo, traitor spartans, where i have seen this before cof cof wh40k
thats exactly what i thought of lmao "what the traitor primarch fuck"
It'd be dumb for there not to be traitor Spartans. With that being said 40k is irrelevant that's why y'all desperately bring it up in every sci-fi Convo possible. Nobody is talking about the basement dwellers and their toys they like painting. Goofy looking toys at that
@@rushpatriot2866 buzzkill
THIS MEANS THAT THERE COULD BE CANON SPARTAN GRUNTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Spartan grunts is something i can get behind🤣🙌
They already have them just look up the goblin.
@@matthewchristian9591 just did😱
@@matthewchristian9591 but the goblin is just a mech, kinda like the halo 4 mantis
@@user-mh5wu9ui8vYeah, but it is not like you can give a Grunt MJOLNIR, they work better by operating vehicles.
Shade Grunts are actually very lethal, a Goblin Grunt is something that makes the UNSC call-in a Spartan Fireteam drop.
Blue Team had to escape from a whole squad of Grunt Goblins that were being used for agriculture because the Grunts immediately swapped the barn tools for the plasma and Needler armament and chased down the Spartans, and the IIs RAN. Because those things are Anti-armor tanks with projectiles that home on enemies and that have AA capabilities, it's a jack-of-all trades overkill when deployed in large numbers. The biggest setback of the thing is the driver most of the time. But even a Diacon/Bouncer is competent enough to cause severe hurt despite throwing tantrums in the process.
343 is giving Spartans the Space Marine treatment
Luc please excuse my shitposting in your comment section. I'm just a Halo fanboy sipping tequila on a Friday night. I've been watching for years, and want to thank you for holding the Mantle of Responsibility for this franchise through some dark times. Make no mistake, you are THE guy.
I've been wondering, does it ever hit you like... "Holy shit, I'm THE Halo guy"?
I mean you even had an Achievement in Halo Infinite named after you!
Anyway... Gigachad behavior. Carry on.
Bro this is the best comment I’ve ever read haha, thank you very much, legit means the world, just happy to help keep people’s love for the greatest franchise on earth alive while it goes through dark times 🙏
Thank you so much for the support chief, it seriously means the world, have a good night and ENJOY THE TEQUILA 🍻
I've really struggled to find any reason to want to fight the banished like with the covenant. I want to see more in-game content from the banished pov
I feel the same, the whole war in infinite doesn’t feel that important imo
Don't brutes kill and torture people for fun?
Sgt locke would be like judge dredd bringing in banished spartans!Perfect comeback for him!
No, just no
Locke is dead tho...
@@jiahturner8122 much like sgt Johnson and the didact life always finds a way🤣
the last season of rvb got me in tears
So long, sweet prince... 🫡
It really felt like the end of the era, just gutted SPOILERS
Sarge didn’t make it to the end 😭😭
@@vslumanoooo sarge!
@@Doomthedarkageshypetrain of all the characters to die I wish it wasn’t him 😭
Then again there is the chance it’s just another one of church’s simulations
@@vsluma yeah but still why?!
Spartan k1llers
Banished Spartans
No matter the difference between them they’re enemies to humanity
🗣🗣🗣
They keep referring to these guys as "Spartan Killers", but have any of them actually slain any Spartan-IIs? Or even Spartan-IIIs, apart from Jega, who had an entire kill-team behind him when he did that?
There aren't many II's left aside from blue team, and they probably have plot armor by this point.
@@xcfjdyrkdtulkgfilhu If anyone has plot armor it's the banished. Lost their only carrier in halo wars 2? They have another now without explanation. Constantly getting their ass handed to them? Destroy the UNSC's most advanced vessel because despite a mission of utmost importance and danger it only has a skeleton crew. Through out the lore even the smartest of Brutes are nothing but savages with barely restrained fury? They're... Well they're still that but also capable of making Spartans of their own but only from humans for some reason.
Theres also red team and i think grey team too,they were also stated to be alive somewhere@@xcfjdyrkdtulkgfilhu
@@nicolae-alexandruluca7853Blue Team, Red Team, Gray Team, Omega Team, Maria-062 & Naomi-010 iirc are the canon surviving Spartan-IIs
All I ask is for 343 to make playable elites I'm not waiting till I'm freakin 40 years old
If Veniza is relevant again can we get a game about Kilo 5 hunting banished spartans
fun fact the halo modder rejected shotgun is modding playable brutes into halo 3
And this is how you know that 343 doesn't understand spartans or halo for that matter.
Spartans undamaged by the augmentatios sure but these are humans fucked in the head by them,of course they will be different
@nicolae-alexandruluca7853 agreed, if they are normal humans. But they're calling them spartans, so they're trying to say that they defected.
Also I wouldn't mind a banished focused halo infinite DLC story. Play as a Brute or a human member of the banished.
Bruh just go play Pvp and wear that set armor 😂 that shit sounds silly af. If you want to kill Humans then go pvp
@@grayfullbuster1242 didn't say that. The enemy could be the endless, sentinels, or maybe the flood
@@grayfullbuster1242 not really lmao could be fun tbh
@legithooligan3764 how so?
Slowly hear your self.
A Banish Spartan vs a Spartan.
It's literally pvp just go play tram death match. If you want to Larp as a Banish Spartan.
Is like saying "hey I want to play as Inserrection Spartan" since they already exist and mostly are Spartan 4s
It would of been better if they did something like Halo 2 play as a Brute. That will be new and refreshing
When i'm in a terrible writing competition and my opponent is 343.
I wish the fell off jokes would…. Fall off
Lol😂
might be unpopular, but i can totally see a game centered around a banished team: an unggoy demo expert with a short temper, a quiet kig-yar tracker/sniper, the wise cracking human in spartan armor, the loyal sangheili second in command, the old but oddly philosophical jiralhanae leader, a lone lekgolo that so happens to be a tactical geniuse, and you - the new guy.
I KNEW IT! I knew the Innies were bound to become buddies with the Banished, they had similar motivations after all.
I hate the idea that it’s Spartans that joined the banished. Platoon of marines or another human faction type would have been way better. Spartans to my halo cannon are unsc/oni only
This is more like Zane and maybe a small number of other initial insurrectionist traitors siding with the Banished, then the insurrectionists start making copies with their own augment recipes.
But how would the Banished manage to create armor and implants, like do they now have a science division?
Also, why would they not just augment their own race instead of investing resources in capturing and then enhancing humans?
The spartan program data that Iratus stole in the mutliplayer narrative was on how to augment humans. Insurrectionists who joined the banished are the right starting material to use that on.
Same as Covenant tech: salvage, repair, reverse engineer, and bam! New Banished tech and armor. They've been doing it since Atriox defected. As for the implants, that I'm not sure I could believe.
The humans weren't captured. We're talking about people who remember how bad it was even before the Covenant showed up. As well as those who know, or realized after the war, what and how they were used by ONI and UNSC during.
Because the spartan armors for humans is already made so its cheaper to just further enhance that instead of create expensive power armor for brutes and elites,also for your first question im sure huragok are also in the banished too,the engineers are extremely intelligent easily managing with many kind of tech,I'm sure they are held at gunpoint manufacturing spartan armors or at least enhancing them
@@nicolae-alexandruluca7853 Sure but i dont really get how they would do the medical part. Like i dont expect brutes to have surgeons due to their concept of battlefield honor.
In halo it is kinda very hard to imagine what the average civilian live does look like in those factions. If you had just the games you might come to the conclusion the Covenant is just loot Forerunner tech and make it work by hitting it repeatedly - no understanding in there, that is also backed up by humanity just adopting their shield tech - because we actively use our brain and do science.
The only race i would assume can do such things are the Forerunners or San' Shyuum
Really liked your editing and storytelling. I was super invested!
Cool game idea we'll never see: we play as an insurgent or different insurgents throughout the Halo series. You see what happens throughout the timeline from the point of view of an outer colony. Fighting back against the UNSC, fighting the covenant without help from the UNSC, trying to protect your world from the forerunners without warning, and ending with you joining the Banished to fight back against the UNSC and finally have a clan that fights with you instead of against you
We could've had playable Elites, Brutes or even Prelates and instead we get... this. I know there's precedence from the GEN-2 Stalker armor being reverse-engineered Brute tech, but it still feels really disappointing. The BR model looks cool at least?
Watch them setting this all up only to kill Zane off in the first cutscene of Halo 7 lol.
It's honestly very generous to assume that Zane will appear in the games at all.
@@jimjam7928Yeah, just like the Executors, if anything they are setting up a multi-faction supersoldier conflict for the next books, Zane might end up fighting an Executor and be thrown off that the thing is not UNSC-made either.
If she appears Chief should snap her in 5 seconds no contest
I do like the banished arent just another covenant that kill everyone not them. Basically their the covenant if they were pragmatic rather than zealous. Their conflicts with chief specifically make sense in the immediate for halo infinite. Although they definitely missed there chance to put in a traitor spartan as one of the bosses(or maybe an assassination target)
All your videos are awesome thx bro
I don’t like how brutes are able to do such advanced things… we need it to be believable.
And is this how they get rid of all old unsc aesthetic?😫
It is believable they got humans and most likely research to build Spartan armor and also reuse Spartan armor like they usually do with other technology and also have an advanced AI who could help.
@@Automaton237 yeah I still don’t think that’s believable enough. Could have been much better explained. Imagine if every plot hole is as basic as oh they teamed up with some people and now they are hundreds of years ahead again….its very cheap. Imo. Unless Spartan armour and Spartan schematics were just laying around on some planet but it was made out like it was basically secret so doesn’t make the best sense, but more story to it would help.
@@crusader7eth163 they get their armor from killing Spartans they could have studied the armor by themselves to make their own copy of it or went to a Oni research base and got Intel about the Spartan program. They would have the resources and the manpower to create Spartan armor and have an AI that helps study the armor and get rid of any systems which may stop them from using the armor it's not like they said he got rid of the armor Locke systems very quickly heck the armor maybe less effective because the brutes designed it which could be a in-game reason for why Master Chief could kill them easier if they ever show up in Halo 7.
@@crusader7eth163 don't forget the Earth government is pretty much destroyed there only a couple ships around the Galaxy and a Rebellion in Halo infinite they could easily just go to a base in search of resources and found Intel about the Spartan program and copied it in the best of their ability and they could have also interrogated a Spartan 5 I'm sure some of them aren't the strongest Soldier mentally they could have got enough Intel to start to find research over time just from that.
@@Automaton237 yeah I agree mostly but like I said it needs more story to it it’s a pretty big revelation and yet the connected information is a bit sparse but hopefully it will be explained properly in the next halo yeah. Hopefully.
We getting enemy humans before playable elites 😭
Jackals working on Mjolnir is cool AF
People tend to forget brutes are just as smart as humans so them making armor pieces for Spartans isn’t far fetched. They used to be a technologically advanced society until they basically nuked themselves in a war.
The idea of Banished Spartans would be better if it wasn't written like a edgy LiveJournal fanfic from 2005.
That thing looks like a crash bandicoot villain
I wish. Loved Crash Bandicoot.
I can’t help but be in awe of finally coming across another with the same enthusiasm as I have and love of halo although you are light years ahead of my knowledge. I enjoy every second of video, soaking it up like a dry sponge. To say thank you sounds weak almost an insult to the gratefulness I am trying to give.
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Such a shame microtransactions is the way we get new lore
Would love to see this in gameb
343 and Microsoft just need to throw in the towel and move on already. So many cool ideas but as you said its all about monitization. I hope they never do a live service game ever again.
Shit like Brutes eating humans and heads on spikes should have been in Infinite, that is one thing that got super toned down because of the T rating and i hate that
You’re right, the editing was really good. Big props to the editor!
Full on Banished Spartans is awesome, since the Banished actually employed humans into their army. Bloody shame we never got a chance to fight Banished humans as Chief.
Brub Just go fight Pvp wearing the set armor. If you get killed by one unsc Spartan then you trash lol
I really like this concept. Banished Spartans is so cool. Shame a lot of the good cosmetics are locked behind a paywall. This and how we got paid Banished Spartan armor and not playable Elites or Brutes.
Really great addition to the lore, just mired by a failed execution and flooded with microtransactions.
Whats next? Elite themed armour instead of playable elites?
The zan being a pack member of the brutes thing reminds me of Machiko Noguchi becoming a member of a yautja clan (if you hear the story yourself read the books alien vs predator prey and alien vs predator war)
Bro the next Halo game is going to be the exact same micro transaction filth infinite is... our only hope for some quality back in the franchise is to "Helldivers" 343
The fact they named an achievement after you and now you, understandably, hate the ever living shit out of them: that is so luxurious
Yes pirates have Spartans now
Well the Insurrectionists have always been my favorite faction, willing to spill blood to be freed from oppression but to see them blatantly side with the banished has me mixed.
That said the Banished are cool as fuck aesthetically.
Spartan No. 203 here. I know this video have something interesting.
No wonder the UNSC was treating the outer colonies like crap. At the first chance they had, they joined the Brutes. I think its dumb that there are Banished Spartans and I think its even more dumb that the humans that sided with the banished arent glorified slaves, because they are still brutes.
If we ever get human enemies in gameplay i hope banished humans wear theses helmets not just Spartans but ground troops
The Epsilon helmet has GOT to be a Splinter Cell reference.
It's got an extremely similar three dot design and _epsilon_ sounds _very close_ to echelon, like the Third Echelon [which is the organization Sam Fisher works for.
Not sure why 343 would be referencing Splinter Cell but if that is what this is, then that goes hard as fuck.
I find it dumb that a Spartan is joining the banished, after fighting the Covenant for literal decades I would assume every veteran in the Covenant War would be xenophobic.
A few S4's defected to the insurrection. It's not crazy for the insurrection to side with the banished given they're both about cranking up anti-imperialism values to 11.
Plus it sounds like the majority of these troops are insurrectionists with their own bootleg augmentations based on the original ONI program. It would only take a few initial real spartan defectors to reverse engineer, plus the data that banished AI from the multiplayer narrative stole and transmitted, to set up their own program augmenting insurrectionists who would be starting with an amenable ideology.
If it wasn't for the fact that humanity won part of its victory to the San'gheili, I would've agreed. However, humanity had its own problems governing its people and outer colonies way before the Covenant ever showed up. The Insurrection hasn't forgotten, hasn't been forgotten, and they were honestly justified given the events that established it.
The main thing is that they don't see a difference between Earth's core government and the Prophets. ONI has become the definition of xenophobia. So there are people who can't let go of old grudges against the various species, but that also applies to the many colonies who can't let go of how terrible and incompetent their own government was.
@@rengarthedwarf4029 Any brainwashed soldier gulping ONI propaganda would be xenophobic. Any sane, reflective individual from any species would see co-operation against the nutjobs that made the mess in the first place. But... You write it better. Cmon!! NOW! Dont cry if your take gets critted.
@@odinulveson9101 hey goober, Ilsa Zane is written as a mentally unstable character. Read Halo: Escalation. So if anything, there's a contradiction in what you said and the source material.
Second, its such a bland story that plays out like a generic comic book villain
@@odinulveson9101 Ilsa Zane is written to be mentally unstable per Halo: Escalation. So which is it, is it like the source material where she is insane or like your take where she is sane?
Also, her character and story is like some generic comic book writing. Very bland, predictable, and unappealing. Want to make it better then don’t add them in. Sorry if that offends you
It seems like people are upset that this was added to the lore instead of actual campaign dlc but not sure why. It’s a cool lore addition and the people that did work on this would be doing almost no work on anything in terms of campaign.
This reminds me of the Predator race or the Mandalorians. They accept anyone who is willing to follow orders and embrace their culture. There are still human insurrectionist systems out there who hate the UNSC so much that they're willing to join the Banished and embrace Brute culture to those who prove themselves. Only the strongest can wear such armor and wield such weapons.
Pretty interesting idea! banished spartans sound interesting.
I really don't like this idea
Though your retelling fixing the poor writing was cool.
Playable Brutes would have been way better. End of story lol
Not really the character models would be pretty big unless 343 makes a brute super skinny and malnourished play bullets would be slightly better although they still couldn't make that much customization which could be an issue.
So, now we've had Spartans that have joined the front AND the banished....great
I honestly dont know how to feel about this. It was one thing to have defections. But for the banished ti just whilsale create their own spartans is an agressive implementation
Why? Who asked for this? So the parts of the story we want them to expand on they ignore but anything they can monetize they just make up off the top of their head?
I like the idea of enemy Spartans. The only question is whether or not they'll ever be relevant in a game
Playable San' Shyuum Prelates would have been an interesting twist on playable factions, and lore-wise would work because they're pretty evenly matched with Spartans... Just a thought
We need a Banished Spartan enemy type in the next game
If infinite can be praised for anything, it has the best battlepass system.
I dislike anything to do with the banished.... So I really dislike banished Spartans.
Only question, when was Hieu Dinh a headhunter? I don't see mention of it in his halo page.
Imagine specialised augmented grunts with their own human mjolnir lmao
The lengths 343 will go to to not make an actual campaign and instead make everyone read some fucking book
Dude I love the banished, and seeing humans wearing custom banished spartan armor is so freaking epic.
Just give us campaign dlc/extensions
I swear more people are invested in that than the multilayer atm
This video looks to have a considerably higher production value, and I'm glad to say it has paid off, well done