Rosi Braidotti: “The concept of human has always been associated with relations of power”
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- čas přidán 15. 06. 2024
- Philosopher Rosi Braidotti talks about the post-human ethic, the devastating effects of neoliberal capitalism, and her proposal for affirmative resistance. Braidotti visited the Thinking Biennale. Open City to explain her new post-anthropocentric perspective, but she was unable to avoid discussing her unease regarding the rise of the extreme right and nationalism in Europe. The underlying concern is the same: life in common and relations with others.
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Like most Post isms , we sit down and talk , talk and talk and in the end we are fragmented, divided and sit separately disassociated with no meaningful change achieved. Strip back the academic language and what you have presented is a re-hashed liberalism complete with the holy trinity of intersectionality. Old wine in New Bottles. Braidotti makes the point that Capitalism doesn't break but adopts and adapts. This is true, and with her prescription of the post human project, it will always remain in tact. How Profit is derived may have changed but the exploitation, consumption, the extraction of surplus value and alienation. On this Marx was and remains right. No amount of disassociation or distance - as she suggests - will stop capitalism. One gets the impression that she is comfortable with this. As long as discourses of power are confined to the holy trinity, and knowledge becomes the prized commodity that place the academy and its thought leaders at the centre of the universe then Capitalism is fine. The rest of us be dammed. As I said - Just another re-hash of liberalism. It is precisely the hegemony of this thinking over the left in the last 35 years that effectively destroyed it and rendered it powerless. No thanks.
inventing the future by sricek and williams is what I`d recommend you to read. On the whole distancing part. How changed captialism needs changed leftism (much more broader one, striving for hegemony, fight the capitalist universalism, roughly) Check articles, summaries on the book if youre interested. I´m worried as you are, the book by the two is actually affirmed by braidotti, which gives me hope that I am on the right track. Dunno for sure though.
What else you suggest? Just burning this place then?
Youre too quick to judge from what Ive read from her so far.
@@maritmam6711 Thank you for the suggestion. I have only had the chance to read some reviews / summary of Sricek and William's book. On that limited basis I would say that I strongly agree with their analysis that the left (which for me is the old socialist left) needs a long term universal economic and social project / narrative and to build the institutions and structures that will develop and sustain it (as the neoliberals did). Post modernism (or whatever you want to call it) effectively disarmed the left and weakened it (over and above the triumph of neoliberalism) by fragmenting and dividing, and ultimately taking 'the material' off the table. That needs to change. I am not so convinced however on their techno - utopian vision of no work and a UBI for all. I cannot see a left coalescing around such a program and be capable of large scale change. The thrust for change in my view remains within the dynamics of the economic relationship both in terms of exploitation of labour (the traditional capitalist method of extracting value) and the extraction of rents from consumers ( the more recent form of extracting value). It is labour & consumer vs capital to put it crudely. Within this context demands like a shorter working week, questions of who owns what (economically), the expansion of economic rights and rights to healt, education & housing, the expansion of democratic spaces etc are the key issues and they also open the door to questions of gender, race etc. As for "burning the place", No, I do not advocate it but history suggests that ultimately serious change is often accompanied with some burning. Those with power and privilege have not always yielded without resistance. Gramsci wrote about a "war of position" and a "war of manoeuvre". We are not in that position or at that stage. What do I suggest? Start building the long term universal economic and social project / narrative from the bottom up - through people's experiences in struggles. Begin to change the institutions, Undo the neoliberal frameworks, rebuild organisations like unions, struggles around wages, cost of living, reversing de-regulations & privatisations, changing trade arrangements, reworking the economy to deal with climate change, regaining universal rights on health, education and housing and so on. Real and material challenges to Capitalism from from the ground up. Leave the discussions of Posthumanism in the halls of academia.
@@Jikan21 but isn't like what they suggest and U can't see pretty cool? Why just dispose it for a "old-fashioned" revolution?
@@Jikan21 "What do I suggest? Start building the long term universal economic and social project / narrative from the bottom up - through people's experiences in struggles." this concurs with the proposal from braidotti, "The changes that we can make are step by step collectively" "...To create affirmative generative values"
About the long term universal economic and social project / narrative, it seems pretty far away for me, in order to make an universal project in a world with the majority of countries using representative democracy, the change we need is cultural, i don't know why you think we aern't prepared for the cultural war that gramsci wrote about, even when he wrote that from a cell, and we are now in the era of the democratizacion of knowledge.
i hope nothing got lost in translation, english is not my first language .
"This isn't Marx's Capitalism" goes on to list new sectors... that still function on the Marxist principles of value extraction by exploiting the workforce. Even in automated workplaces it still requires human labour for its development, upkeep and distribution and thats not going to change any time soon.
At the end she says "The current political situation does not allow us a bit of calm so we can discuss the issue. Affirmation is creating relations that allow us to have this discussion rather than shouting insults."
Discuss...
Illuminating. Inspiring.
Probably more accurate to say that Olympe de Gouges was gaoled and executed as a consequence of her political activism which criticised the revolutionary government of the time and her Girondist affiliation. She was a moderate that fell out with the more radical faction of the revolution. Her Declaration of the Rights of Woman and the Female Citizen did attract some criticism and opposition but it shouldn't be foregrounded as the main reason for her execution as Rosi Braidotti does
But where did they find this?
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This would be all great if you didn’t start slandering Marxism, several small qualitative lead to quantitative changes. We all need to learn and deconstruct the ideas and social norms that have emerged in the capitalist imperialist world order and even the smallest change matters but at the end there will be revolution that will deliver the final blow. Individual and collective empowerment go hand in hand✊🏿
Capitalism will bend and adapt to a certain point. Beyond that point it will fight tooth and nail to maintain the Capitalist order. Both Marx and Gramsci acknowledge that in the end a final blow is required. As others have noted above, what is proposed a post liberal version of liberalism.
Thanks I love Foucault.
Foucault is part of the problem
What I find interesting is how Eurocentric Braidotti's viewpoints are, for a person who is supposedly trying to consider all of humanity. "(european) enlightenment gave us the universal declaration of human rights (drafted largely by colonial powers)". "Jews and blacks didn't get human rights (in western countries)". "our values [etc.] are still attached to older (european, colonial) visions of the human".
I would like to ask this woman to talk to any number of other philosophers who aren't entrenched in the supremacy infused history of European philosophy, and perhaps she may touch some grass along the way
Her work sees the change - the becoming of the other -, as an act of embodying the difference, so I think she is in very touch with not-eurocentric ideas. Her focus of the difference relies on contra posing the current patriarchal - neocapitalist point of view; by the doing of that she is positioning herself outside the european-western mindset and embodies nomadic point of view. It reminds me of E.Said's orientalism in describing by distancing yourself of what you are embodying - his critic relies on academics who describe any not-western country as a pastiche of clichés and actual facts -, besides - I cannot say you where - but I know she mentions Achille Mbembe's necropolitics somewhere.
I just think it's dificult to discusse contemporary politics and filosophy without talking about european viewpoints. Think about colonialism and how it was the west who was leading the beat of the drums anywhere in the world - by crushing and slaving global population -.
Got any Grapes
Great, interesting ideas but has anyone noticed? Rosi Braidotti is literally sitting under a glass ceiling.
This made me think of Davis Hume's remark about certain philosophical discourses. Think about what you just heard or read and ask yourself : "Does it contain any abstract reasoning concerning quantity or number? No. Does it contain any experimental reasoning, concerning matter of fact and existence? No. Commit it then to the flames: for it can contain nothing but sophistry and illusion" (An Enquiry Concerning Human Understanding (1748) sect. 12).
The story of the flames is a joke, but the rest is not.
well hume also believed that reason must have "a priori" knowledge of the eternal and the necessary relations between ideas, so with that methodological basis, he doesn't add much
no thanks foucault 2.0! its not always about power.
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