31/07/22. Day two on the Massey Ferguson 5S 145 Is it growing on me?
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- čas přidán 10. 08. 2022
- I drove this tractor (unloaded) yesterday and wasn't sure how I felt about it, today is a new day and I think I may have been a bit hasty?
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"Oh look i just broke a bloody bale" I couldn't help but chuckle at that sorry haha.
It’s good to know that Richard is back home after almost a week stint in the hospital. Praying for a full recovery
I visited him again today, he’s ok, just got to be steady and sensible..
@@FarmerP steady and sensible is a motto more folks could follow
Sending all Good Wishes to Richard for a quick and full recovery from the dreaded lurgy ....... looking forward to seeing you and Ian undertaking another riveting challenge a.s.a.p. Take care !!!
keep em comeing mate,its good to see you getting to grips with the diffrent machines.
Thanks Ian, yes my best wishes to Richard and his family. Take care.
Good video mr. P. Hope Mr. C. Get better soon we are all thinking of him @ the family 👍👍👍👍
Great video, look forward to seeing the CASE!
Sending thoughts and prayers to the funky farmer. The Massey is lovely but looks like you fell for the T5 I'd hate to be the one making the decision. Thanks for the great videos Ian 👌👍😉
Great story Farmer P .
Gave me a laugh and a smile .
Funny bull .he's got that look on his face too .
He just loves to see you in your pj
Trying setting the 3 rows over bottom rows 2,3 and 4 not over rows 123, take a bit off the hitch and place it back over the the trailer axles. Should help the feel lf the ride.
Best tractor fergy
Nice job once again farmer P
Ian,
We laughed with Biskit supervising you hooking up your trailer.
Nice Tractor, I'd say you've many uses for it. I've many memories on a 1105 Massey , 👍💯👍
It’s is a nice looking tractor . It not easy reversing into a dark shed
great video again Ian sorry to hear about the funky farmer hope hes going to be ok this virus as a lot to answer for wish him well from me
Good evening Ian, great video again you say you are getting Used to it as it is said Practice make Perfect 👍 and as you know that will happen so all the best with picking the right one, On this hot 🥵 hot 🥵 day, you take care of yourself and stay safe and well .🚜🚜👍⭐️🥵.
Hello from the Netherlands and thanks for the video Ian .
Sincerely, Hollandduck🇳🇱🦆
Great video Ian
i love the way shes just ticking over at pretty much idle all the time your loading, lot easier on the old red derv pocket . suspect that lag in the loader is just some small setting,prob how the proper owner like it,like the gear settings on the auto box ,so phil may not know on that when he talked you through it all.
T5 all day long 👍
That bale handler is really not designed to handle bales like that, so I would say you have done really well not to damage many. I would have a slight preference for the loader joystick on the Massey over the New Holland, and the armrest overall is slightly more comfortable, but that's purely subjective.
Good video old chap. With those bale grabs, try going in to the stack at an angle and work from one end of stack. So you don't have to push down through bales. The same as you would with the safe hand grabs your see. And also go in at an angle on your trailer, from the back heading forward to headboard. I learnt the hard way, like yourself. Bloody good job.
Hi Ian, try switching off your soft ride option on your loader for the lag effect…as I had the same thing on our New John Deere when we got it.. great to see demo of the different tractors 👍🏻👍🏻🚜
My grandad has that sort of bale handle grab but come at them flat face on when they are wrapped.👍🏻😁
Great content again
Morning ian, nice content again cheers 😄
Good to see you practising the GOAL principle in tight spaces. If in doubt Get Out And Look.
Better safe than stupid I say. 🙂👍🏼
A very good Thursday evening to you all on a hot day
Good evening Mr. P. it must feel good to know that is the last load to get home. I know it's only my opinion but there is something I don't like about the 5S. besides that steering wheel. Next time you see the funky farmer please wish him well and a speedy recovery. Keep well and stay safe.
I visited him this morning to make sure he was following doctors orders…. He was, mostly 😄👍🏼
I've just watched the funky farmers latest video when he comes out of hospital I couldn't believe it he has been given some bad news has to take it easy because he has a damaged heart now
Liking your reviews on the new tractors , after seeing the new holland and massy ones , think it's going to be down to the best deal
I seen the funky video and wished him well. No great news but he'll do good. I've been in his shoes before.
Not being bias but you did really seem to love the T5. Price will be a big factor I'm sure. Great video Ian.
The way I used to pick up wrapped bales from a stack with a squeeze was to go in with it tilted up at around 45 and tilt it down inbetween the bales, squeeze, tilt up, back out, similar to what your doing but with tilt, that way the squeeze locates between the bales easier meaning you can go in quicker and you can give it a little nudge if its tight in. Skills developed from when I was an impatient youth and the only way to do anything was flat out!
Oh my methods evolved a bit over the two or three loads🙂
Mums always know best.
Nice Tractor but it does seem a lot of flight checks before you can do anything,
dont get to hot its going to lovely weather. cheers Ian for the insight
Hello Farmer P 😊. You certainly seem to be having a great time trying out the MF. Also like all the technical comments which give you food for thought. Only tech comment I can make is I am with you regarding your preference for manual transmission on the farm roads. Like you, I also like to be in control of my vehicle. Talking about cars, I think Automatics take all the fun out of driving. 😊
Patrick is my favourite, I think. There is a lot of mischief in him. His expression says it all. While you were ticking him off, you could see he was already planning what next to do to harass you 😂😂👍🐂.
Enjoyable video, as per usual. Many thanks Farmer P 😊. Take care and hug for Biskit 🤗 🐶 ❤️
If I were you, I would buy that tractor because I think its nicer than the t5 but, you should get it in a lower spec so you can get the best price
It's a shame Ian you didn't get to do any field work with the massey to show what it can really do, I think you would have liked it more than you have and would have gave you a chance to really get to know it .Never noticed you using the gear change on the forward reverser which is real nice or the forward and back on the other two levers both good features. The pillar in the way for hedge cutting I think the drop nose bonnet easy makes up for that with the good vision it gives .
Mike
I am biased being a Ford,Fiat,Newholland man through an through been around them since a wee boy and i swear i must be lucky because none my dad ever drove or any i have ever has gave much problems. My old boy was always religious about servicing and treated any tractors etc he drove as his own so maybe that was why. New Massey is interesting i like the second joystick, nice to have side windows that can open also. No experience of Dynamic command gearbox but from every report you have said and others they are ultra smooth.
Another great video has always farmer p ian and Mrs p Sam emma Abbi and holli and miss biskit miss crumble miss gypsy miss pepper and miss pickle 👍
a little john deere would sute your farm perfect ian :) maybe a 6930 small but packs a punch with power :)
Wise words from your Mum. Trust that Biskit is impressed with the 5s from her side?
Think blue is edging it now, I'll tell you why my wife tells me that the more I say I'm starting to like something the less likely I am to buy it, she says I always sound like I'm trying to convince myself
And 9 times out of 10 she int wrong LOL.
Richard is not a well bunny at all I don't think So we should all wish him well 💐
Looks like Richard on the slow road to recovery . So Mr Patrick had you up . Looks like some competition against the T5
Here’s an idea, if you buy a tractor with a similar loader leave a few inches gap next year so you won’t catch the bale on entry.
Those rear tyres sure did have a bit of a squat to them, when you reversed into the shed with the loaded trailer. Compared to just after you dropped the trailer off, the Massey gained a bit of height again at the rear. Looking forward to seeing the other tractors on test.
Hi lan I am blue fan blue will
always do 🤔😉👍👌
your not the only one to say about steering wheel matt at 4winds farm said the same about there 8s
i sent all my best wishes to the funky farmer get well soon richard cornock i love you so much my love goes out to you and all your family i'm thinking of you everyday
Bit strange our bull did the same thing but we had to cut a bar 😬
The bale squeezer not really meant for pick up bale's like that and would take a good operator not to rip them so you did well 😁
Take care stay safe cheers mate 👍
Hi you should put the extra weight over the trailer axle. I find that the massey used to be heavier than the New Holland which helps when working with the loader. 🚜
i still recon you like the case more... i was at a auction this morning and i bought something the wife wasnt pleased about, i bought a used QuadX power shredder flail mower for our quad bikes... she said "how much" i said "around 5k-ish..." enough said her face went red and i thought i saw sparks from her grinding her teeth... anyway it works great in between the orchard tree's... she aint spoke to me all day so another blessing in disguise lol
Brave man 😄
@@FarmerP well she will get her own back next week when we get to the US and see our eldest daughter, shopping in malls... buying stuff for everyone else, i guarantee i will spend a few hours a day packing stuff to send home... i think she spends more on gifts than the actual holiday costs...
Hi farmer p to be fair on the fergy if it had wider tyre's on the rear it would certainly help with the Ride.
Nice tractor that and if u ever decided to change it or sell it, the resale value would be good
A 470 claas arion might be worth a try, same back end as fergi, fpt engine as the new Holland better vision out the cab if you go panoramic. cab and front suspension.
Hi Ian, Do not like the lag in control of the forks, I've used lots of different hydraulic machines in my time with people getting very close to the business end, would not be comfortable with anybody near it. That's a fault that needs fixing and maybe it's an easy fix.
As for the load on the trailer being out of balance, you should by axle weight load for that and not just to get the load against the headboard.
When driving the ERF flat bed I had to chain and chog the load to stop it moving forward under sudden braking. The chogs were also chained down and timbers cut to fit off the headboard. Journey length should not come into it as something can happen at the first corner, or the last one. Can the bales be made to a size that fits the trailer.
Take care and stay safe.
You need to test the multi controller Maxxum, same box as t5 . The standard maxxum box is not as smooth. I had a multi controller version with the older box, range changes were rough, which made the Claas hexashift a dream, super smooth 24 speeds all press button.
Poor chap, must have had lessons from your sheep lol, If you had picked the bales up from the side, you would not have had to push the lifter between two bales lol Tractor first impressions do mean a lot. Like buying shoes, if they feel good straight away, they are good, if someone says they will wear in, that's not so good, tractor should not need tuning for you to feel good with it. IMO
Before picking the bale up use the end of one of the rollers to ease the bale slightly to the side
Easy with a skid steer, not so much with a tractor.
The massey looks a nice machine ian very fancy inside compared to tractors 25 years ago it always makes me worry with all the sensors how often they go wrong!
Early ones are usually the ones to go,later models are usually well sorted but local contractor has been stating they have sensors putting up all the time in their new volvo's compared to the older ones
You can change the settings on the gearbox, and in our experience they change a bit after 500 hours
Poor Patrick.
Hi Mr P
Well. Its a good size for you. Cab seem a little small inside compared to your Case but maby not. Nice styling outside but I'm for whatever reason not keen on the work lights they don't really suit the rest if the style thing that there. Stay safe 🏴
Let funkyfarmer to get well soon tell him to slow down 👌👍👍👍🚜🚜🚜
That bale grab sure does add some negatives to the review. I do think that delay in the controls can be changed on the 5s. I think it’s part of the load dampening. Although it’s hard to argue with that cab ride in the nh
Just wondering is the loader delay down to the fact the soft ride is switched on. I have a feeling there wouldn’t be any delay if it was switched off, which it should be when loading bales etc.
*BONK* Release your straps if you don't know how long or if its gonna be more than 3 days that the bales are on.
Hi Ian great video aren't you going to try a John Deere you owe it to yourself to try the best
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Good video,you didn’t say to much while driving the massey, how you felt about travelling with the loader,and did you use the loader joystick for driving forward/backwards? Hope funky Farmer is healing well.
That guy from New Holland was pretty smart to get you that T5 as fast as he could, But that that 5s is (slightly) bigger than the t5, on screen it doesn't look like that, probably the bonnet.
Also on the comfort part, as a Dutch guy growing up with wagons with dolly's instead of your style trailer, in my opinion those are more comfortable as they don't put the weight on the back of the tractor. And another plus is that it handles tight corners better cuz there are 2 turning points in stead of one. BUT backing up with those dolly/wagons is a skill (which i love ☺ and i'll dm you on insta with me showing off 🤣)
Old boy can back those and two silage trailers in from narrow back road in one swing car driver even clapped at him for it lol
My old hay trailer was a four wheel front dolly, I’m not as fast with it as the big Marshall, but I can still get it around corners and back tight in the barn. 🙂👍🏼
If you use the maps app on your mobile (I know you know the way) it will tell you the speed limit and exactly your speed too. My car speedo is about 10% optimistic, perhaps tractors are the same.
Don't back into the drill like I did one dark night years ago not popular with the boss bugger 😥👍
Safer to get out and check, it was very bright outside, which made it very dark in.
some of these loaders are designed to take skidsteer attachments
R they rollers what nip them be better nip them at top maybe
What speed does the 5s go
Hi Ian. I definitely do not like the over-run from the control lever to the loading ram. This has negative safety implications, and, I see it as a fundamental design error but, I have to say, I'm extremely surprised. I'm quite sure, that a brand leader like MF, employ top notch design engineers and hydraulic engineers, so, why have they made this basic mistake. An operator shouldn't have to guess in advance, when to press the OFF button. Once pressed, it should mean just that, OFF, end of travel. Porting the hydraulics through a 3/5 (3 position, 5 port valve), would ensure total control. It's basic stuff as far as i am concerned so, perhaps I am missing something here?
may just be a setting or a fault.
@@stubbi OFF, should mean just that, OFF There is no excuse whatsoever, for any other condition. MF have shot themselves in the foot as far as I'm concerned.
It’s been suggested that it’s a settings preference that can be programmed out, I soon got used to it.
@@Improveng1 Was it left in travel mode which allows slight movement
@@Improveng1 Its not how it works. I can imagine this feature saving up quite some wear on the hydraulics if it can feather out instead of abbruptly stop.
what do your other drivers ( Sam,Abbie, and Hollie think of the new tractors as they will be using them as well)
They all hate the gearbox on my little MXU, buttons will suit them far better.
Would say Ian the way you loaded the trailer had a lot to do with ride comfort 🤔 you had empty space at back of trailer an doubled up bales at front way ahead of the axles 🙄 again bein an old dinosaur couldn't be bothered with all that button pushing to hitch a trailer 🙄🙄🤣🤣 best wishes an a speedy recovery for Richard 👍
Quite possible, but the case will be loaded exactly the same, we will see if it handles the burden any better 🙂👍🏼
Did you see the comment about using the mirror on the back window frame for hitching up? I know the tractor's long gone but just for future reference if you went for the MF.
@@TJMack-
The mirror was useless, it was mounted on the wrong side.
I am not sure I think you may left the loder ride on. Why it's over riding ares don't do have that problem I will a look tomorrow mabye something I've not noticed
Still think come hedging a T5 (or indeed a Case) cab is going to give far better visibility
No argument there.
Here in the USA, we have 2 colors of Fuel. Red for the farmers and construction industries so Off Road. Blue for all road uses from diesel motorcycles to semi-trucks. There is a huge cost difference as the Red has no taxes on it as it's not for road uses. Do you in the UK have something similar?
Yes red fo4 agriculture and forestry, everything else has to run on white.
The loader shouldn't react like that unless it's because you have soft ride on? If you had a man cage on!
Front suspension switched on with the loader could be the comfort problem. They can push against each other and over-exaggerate the bumps in the road due to the weight of the loader and heavy silage bales pushing the machine forward/down onto the front suspension rams, so it may of been comfier with the front suspension switched off and just let the loader and cab suspension absorb the shock of the potholes.
I'm thinking their loaner/trial 5S is actually a lemon box. Wouldn't surprise me if the loader latency has to do with the loader float and front suspension.
The loader delay is definetly Chandlers should take a look at. That shouldnt be happening.
I'm thinking the loaner/trial is a lemon box tractor.
@@prjndigo what makes you think so?
Reading and learning about it, this is actually a feature allowing the pressure to feather off instead of abruptly ending. Thinking about it I might actually enjoy that feature when getting used to it.
but I bet if you wasn't recording you wouldn't have split one that is always the way
Oh no not another Famer P midnight nicker dash
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Hi, Why don't you leave a little more gap when you are stacking the bales especially if they need to be moved again before use. That's why I'd prefer to bring home the all the bales before wrapping in the yard i.e. less handling the better.
No room to store them all at home.
Has the case got a loader on
No.
Massey definitely more comfortable
Well it.almost 9 days that the farmer tested the mf. So my question is how was the case.. and wil it be a red or a blue tractor.
The trial case hasn’t arrived yet.
Hi Ian have you not considered a Valtra ?
Not sure who’s our nearest dealer is to be honest?
Do you have a claas tractor dealer near you
About twenty miles away.
When’s the kubota coming
No idea.
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i don't like the steering wheel either give me the old still
I think you you have been blue from day one.