Settling a 2 Year Old Debate | Elden Ring vs GoW Ragnarok in 2024
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- čas přidán 3. 03. 2024
- I love BOTH of these games, and there's always been a debate on which game is better. With that being said, I thought that I would chime in with my opinions on what each game does better than the other.
Only thing is...this is 2 whole years after the release of these games.
Elden Ring Review: • Elden Ring Changed My ...
GoW Ragnarok Review: • God of War Ragnarok is... - Hry
Before I see any more Sweet Baby Inc comments:
I was unaware of them prior to making this video, and I think that it sucks to see how poorly-managed many AAA game studios are these days. To the point where they need to hire a consultant that has such a heavy influence on their games, and ultimately results in the games losing a bit of their soul for the sake of whatever message they’re trying to convey.
Thankfully, it looks like FromSoftware doesn’t deal with them hence why their games are still amazing, and I’m really looking forward to Elden Ring’s DLC come June this year!
That being said, I’m still going to make a Spider-Man 2 NG+ video because it gives me an opportunity to reevaluate a lot of things I said in my original Spider-Man 2 review, as well as poke fun at Sweet Baby Inc.
If that’s not something you’d be into watching, I do apologize in advance. More Elden Ring and Dark Souls content will be coming soon!
When are you going to do a review of The legend of Zelda Breath of the wild or Tears of the kingdom?
@@ChampagneHabibi225when I finally get a Nintendo Switch
You should add nioh to your list of games it's a great souls like 👌
If you want to add to the SBI slamming, look into them, consultancy firms like them and their ties to marxism (self admitted).
before this, i didnt even know what sweet baby inc was. The more one learns I guess.
The fact that elden ring had a ridiculous amount of hype and still surpassed our expectations is wild
To me there’s no debate at all. Elden Ring is goated. The sense of adventure and exploration is unmatched. God of War is a great game but it’s on rails. When you open the door and see Limgrave you get the sense of scope and you get to just go do whatever you want
Plenty fantastic games are on rails. I'd wager to say elden ring is SO open that it sacrifices alot of quality that other souls games have
agreed. those thinking there is a debate are probably Playstation fanboiis. not the most intelligent of people.
@@enol1466I’d argue Elden is not only the best souls game but the best game ever
@@enol1466I love Elden ring and still play it to this day 2 years after release and you are absolutely right my friend, but you have to remember this was fromsoftwares first attempt at an open world game so them getting the open world aspect perfect is impossible. But in saying that it just makes me more keen for the DLC, I feel like fromsoftware learned from Elden rings few shortcomings and are about to deliver us one of the best open world maps in history. I would not be surprised if the DLC surpasses the base game.
@@GiblixStudio The idea that thinking that a debate about two amazing is boiled down to console fanboying is stupid lol. It implies the two games don't have merit without them
The problem is, people found out that once the souls formula clicks for you, the emotions you’ll get from overcoming what felt impossible initially, will have you jumping out of your chair, yelling out loud, cussing, laughing, and feeling amazing. THAT is emotion right there. No linear, scripted, voice acted, playable movie is going to elicit such emotion from so many players. Elden ring may not have you saying “awww…🥹🥹” and tug at your heart strings in the same way, but sure as god’s got sandals……. It will pull the strings directly attached to your body and make you jump up and yell“FUCK YEAH! I GOT YOU BITCH!” waking up everyone in the house when you finally beat that boss you’re stuck on. it’s positively heart pounding. and that’s just ONE aspect of what makes the souls series THE greatest of all time.
I remember feeling that “FUCK YEAH I GOT HIS ASS” feeling when I beat Mohg for the first time without summons.
That guy was more annoying than Malenia because at least with Malenia I knew I died because she just got my ass fair and square.
Mohg on the other hand had his cheesy ass blood flame nonsense that did absurd damage, and we can’t forget the “NIHIL” attack where you basically gotta waste flasks, use the physick tear, or kill him before he starts the attack.
Needless to say I completely understand you, and I absolutely love the fact that FromSoft games will give you an enemy, talk about how powerful they are, and then tell you to kill said enemy.
@@d1ode with mohg you need to stay close to him to avoid the blood flame, if there's blood flame between you and him you can either jump over it or wait for him to come to you.
couldn’t have said it better. elden ring being my first souls game that i beat i can only compare the feeling to landing my first kick flip, i’ve never played a game that left my hands shaking with adrenaline when i put the controller down.
God of War is a good game with a dramatic, emotionally fulfilling story; and deeply relatable characters. Elden Ring is a masterpiece.
Dude why are people so fucking stupid? Seriously you newbies to the souls genre have ruined it so far.
Elden ring isn't a masterpiece nor it is the best from software game. It shouldn't have won game of the year because it only won it based on popularity, and objectively speak its from most flawed game, they need to fix so many things there specially with the horrible bosses that are so bad, only a few are really good.
That being said, it is elden ring a bad game? No, it is not because it is a very fun game where you can have a great time, just don't let your feelings towards the Game control you.
God of War ragnarok isn't better than elden ring on a massive stomp or scale, it has many aspects that can be better but it is polished on a better way than elden ring and this is an objective truth, heck if you aren't new to these games just look at my profile picture and you'll know my love for from software and their games.
Fulfilling? The first one, perhaps.
unpopular opinion, GOW was BETTER when kratos was just a killing machine, I understand some people play games because of the story but the last two GOWs have been so boring....
@@danielbelmont5228 Actually I disagree. If you go back to GOW Greek Trilogy you connect to him more now. Before the 2018 game, everyone was done with Kratos due to GOW 3 and Ascension. The major thing being people misunderstanding and not connecting with the hope stuff at the end of GOW 3. The later games 2018 and Ragnarok may not up to the scale of the older ones due to tech and camera limitations. If you really analyse how the rebuilt GOW saved the franchise and how much they did right in the 2018 game, you'll see yourself appreciating the newer games. I do not care if liking the older games is your personal opinion, but calling the newer ones 'boring', I wouldn't agree much.
@@saivivekm.v2411 it is true it is more more a personal opinion clearly I am in among the minority, but specially ragnarok was boring as hell, with the kid sections that drag too long, I just played once and that's it, even the 2018 game I just played once, there is nothing for me to replay those games, but the older games I still replay them from time to time, it is just fun, you know, just fun, to mash buttons and see everything and everyone getting ripped apart, the the cool transformations, and how big of a dick kratos can be, those games are a real power fantasy, and what videogames used to be, (not saying story games do not have a place because they indeed have it) I just love when videogames are games, I love fromSoftware games because of that, and I do not like movie-games, so yeah it is more of a personal preference and I know I am in the minority, for me, they are just boring that probably I will never play them again, once is enough.
I have never been more excited for a game release then when Elden Ring was on the horizon, the days of the November network test were some of the most memorable times of my life, constantly babbling about ER with friends who had never heard of it, then eventually getting them on the hype train, and on top of that getting a code for network test, it was just an incredible experience for me. Not to mention how it completely surpassed every expectation I had when it released. Once it came out I followed other playthroughs from content creators I enjoy, guided my friends through it all and shared experiences with them, it was a culmination of things that added up to something amazing. There is just something about fromsoft games that bring people and experiences together that makes them so special to me.
I like the silent protagonist because the emotions and pure rage comes from me 😂. That’s the beauty of elden ring and other souls.
Sekiro has a silent protagonist?
@@DionPanday no he talks
God of War Ragnarock is an 8/10 to me. Elden Ring is easily a 10/10 and is my favorite game of all time.
10/10 would be perfect, your telling me you liked the mountaintops, consecrated snowfield, AND burning leyndell. All of those places were pretty bad to me. Mountaintop was the best cuz it actually had some stuff to do but the others are literally just barren wastelands full of nothing. ER is a 9/10 for me. Still better than gow
@@justclxxy That's a bizarre observation because ER got noticeably more empty come mountaintops of the giants.
Ragnarok is a 9/10 to me and ER is a 8/10, the endgame is disappointing.
@@justclxxyI agree with mountaintops. I do not really like that place and feels kinda empty to me
@@justclxxy10/10 is not perfect. If it would, there could be nothing that is 10/10. Also ist subjective so for someone it can be 10/10 and for others a 2/10
Elden Ring story: As interesting as you want it to be (depending on how much you're willing to invest yourself in it)
GoW Ragnarok story: It is what it is.
For example, I've spent hours reading cool lore theories on reddit and reading item descriptions and wondering what the enviroment means or why it is the way it is, it's just fascinating and the more I explore, the more questions I find.
Also, one story is pretty much original with hundreds of historical and mythological inspirations, while the other is a reinterpretation of a myth, which doesn't necessarily make it bad, but definitely lowers its originality score for me.
@@Kuvantorman, I'm going to be kind with you but you are objectively and subjectively wrong in so many things, so I'm going to be direct and be objective leaving aside my favoritism.
We know that elden ring isn't a masterpiece, it is nowhere near to be the best game coming from from software, that is bloodborne, and it has so many flaws because it is their most ambitious game.
Elden ring shouldn't have won the game of the year based only on popularity, but this doesn't mean it is a bad game ; it still is a good game where one can have lots of fun, and only because we acknowledge it's flaws doesn't mean that it is a sin or something like that ; it has terrible bosses where only a couple can be catalogue as good, it has the less value to replay it again compare to the other games and most importantly overall, it needs to be polished a lot more. God of War ragnarok should have won based only on this aspect, as well as many other games.
From must upgrade their Game to be better than this, lies of p is the best example of this and that Game also is better than almost all the games from software has made so far, only bloodborne and dark souls are above it.
Sorry if anything that I said here bothers you but I'm just saying the truth without any bias or attacking any particular game, only pointing at what elden ring really is.
@@eliasfigarzon9813 I don't really know why you would respond something like this on a comment where I only talk about the story lol. I of course disagree with most of what you say, but there's no point in debating someone who is literally boxing with shadows. The fact that you completely ignored the point of the comment on your own is proof that there will be no adressing of real arguments, just pointless debate.
@eliasfigarzon9813 Man I love when people attempt to pass their opinions off as concrete fact simply because they say it is, then claim that's not what they're doing. There's nothing factual or objective about your opinion at all. If anything it shows the very bias and favoritism you claim to free of. The irony in comments like that is just plain sad honestly. Humble yourself. There's no place for such a false sense of authority on who loves what video games for their own reasons. You don't get to dictate that.
Depending on who you ask literally every one of those games are masterpieces. Elden Ring, God of War, and Lies of P are all incredible games that do their own things perfectly in my opinion. None of them are without flaws nor should they be, the quarks are what make these titles even more special than your run of the mill story game. Bloodborne was also incredible, but that doesn't mean you won't find people who disagree or hate it.
OP was just expressing what they get out of the game and what keeps them interested. Then you had to come in here with some irrelevant, authoritarian objectivity ass comment like come on man be better. Just enjoy the games, let other people do the same and move on.
@@eliasfigarzon9813You are obviously biased. In the same regard i could say that bloodborne is far worse than elden ring. Its fully subjective. You are wrong - objectively. Or at least try to bring some arguments why bloodborne is objectvely the better game. Your only point is that Elden ring only won because of popularity but you dont state any source about that. So its just your opinion with bias.
Honestly I was really disappointed in Ragnaroks story. It felt like things were just happening without reason. They set up Kratos dying with the fates, but never show him overcoming his fate in a satisfying way, he just kinda does it.
Looking back at it, I really don’t like how rushed the third act felt. And honestly, I think Spider-Man 2 suffers from the same problem of having a rushed third act.
I’ve clocked like 500 hours into Elden Ring, even my wife who isn’t really a gamer got hooked and spent a few hundred hours beating it and getting deep into PVP.
I got to the long Atreus section with all the walking and probably quit and started that game about 3 times before I finally just gave up on it. After a proper Souls game, I just feel like I’m doing chores when I play a game as hand-holdy as GOW. The first one I played a while back and liked it enough to beat it, second one is even more story and the same restrictiveness. I was hoping they would make the gameplay a little more interesting but it’s just more playable movie. Just not worth my time.
Have to admit, part of why I bought Elden Ring was because of GOW 2018. I liked it, but I didn't feel fulfilled when I completed it. I could go back and play Give Me God of War difficulty, but I don't feel motivated to go back after playing Elden Ring. No comment on Ragnarok, since I never bought it, nor did I got into the hype.
To be fair, I'm incredibly biased because I love FromSoft's games and have never touched a God of War game in my life. But I do believe Elden Ring is the better game for a few good reasons:
1) It finally bridged the gap for new players to get on board with Souls. I saw people who had no interest in Souls actually get hyped for Elden Ring even before its release. And when it finally hit store shelves? Those same people loved it and even went back to play FromSoft's other games.
2) It didn't compromise the already tried and true formula that Souls was known for but yet it also allowed a lot more accessibility than Dark Souls or Bloodborne. You're no longer committed to an area until the boss is killed; you're free to leave and come back when you're ready in Elden Ring. And you don't even have to fight certain bosses to get to new areas of the game! Take Liurna for example. You COULD go through Stormveil Castle, beat Godfrey (or Godrick, whichever) and come out to Liurna on the other side... OR you could take a narrow cliffside path that leads straight into Liurna and bypass all the headache. The game is made for sequence breaking!
3) Lastly, it was a huge gamble on FromSoft's part that paid off incredibly. You hear "open world Dark Souls" and you get the idea at first but then you start to wonder what the game will do exactly to set itself apart from other open world tiles. Best I can describe it is it's like that initial feeling we all got when we first played a Zelda game: cryptic yet rewarding. You're not being railroaded from Point A to Point B. I had sessions with the game where I would decide what to do in that time; sometimes I'd ride Torrent for hours, other times I'd fight a boss that was giving me trouble or I'd go explore some catacombs. The game encourages the player to make their own adventure in that time.
That, to me, is what makes Elden Ring the better game.
Brother, you are comparing a Mercedes S-Class to a Rolls Royce Spectre... One is good, the other is in it's own league.
Ragnarok being Rolls Royce
@@azrrrrrrrr Lol 😂
@David_USC well then i feel sorry for you that you didnt expirience gow magic. Elden is cool and great game but Ragnarok is masterpiece
I platinumed both and Elden Ring destroys Ragnarok@@azrrrrrrrr
I’m gonna be 100% real, hearing the rare dialogue in Elden Ring like, “Lowly Tarnished, thou’rt unfit even to graft,” is way more impactful than Kratos explaining how being a god has consequences for the 10th time. The example from Elden Ring adds personality, establishes a social imbalance between the Tarnished and others and develops a rivalry between the player and certain factions. It’s almost poetic… actually, it is poetic: each line was carefully written like a poem, not like a script in GoW.
I never actually thought about it like that. Probably due to the frustration from dying so much.
Skill issue on my end aside, I can see how thinking of the dialogue that way can motivate players to do better.
It’s crazy how you are trying your best to undermine GowR l
@@morbincentral3607 my comment was exaggerating the point that GoWR repeats itself a bit too much, even if the things they’re repeating is good. Imo, Elden Ring masters show don’t tell which leads to their being no repetition, which is more interesting “than ___ explaining how ___ for the 10th time.” One is excellent, but the other is more excellent.
@@harvesterofsubs5561no repetition, fight Erdtree Avatar for the 10th time, kek
@@DionPanday id fight them 50 times they are fun asf because they are so readable
I'm sorry but fromsoft never misses, and all I have to say about GOW is atreus missions
Ironwood.
They missed pretty hard with Ninja blade
I think it's pretty obvious which game was better. GoW was really really great but ppl have forgotten it. The Elden Ring sub reddit has 3 million subs lol. It is still talked about and constantly appears in the top 20 stream games being played to this day.
By this logic Fortnite is the greatest game ever made, wich it clearly isnt
This was never a question 😂
I mean...yes it was
@@enol1466not really, i liked God of War but Elden Ring waaaay better and so did the majority of people
There were many People before release which did say it..-
@@enol1466no it wasn’t, and you wouldn’t be commenting on every single post just to prove your false narrative otherwise.
@RulerX. it was, for a lomg time in 2022 so you're wrong. And sorry but elden ring fans go unchecked and are never called out for how overblown the hype is for elden ring and its time some says something about it
You should try Armored Core 6 Fires of Rubicon. I'm pretty sure you will love this game.
I liked AC6 more than ER😢
@@muramasa870 different game genres for different people. Unless you like the cash grab garbage, your opinion is not invalid
@@MaidenlessScrub what💀
@@muramasa870can you really not understand what he said lmfao
I like GoW, but I have over 500hrs on Elden Ring it is by far my favorite Souls game
Elden Ring is in the top 10 best games of all time
It is indeed a game of all time.
Top 5
In first
Top 3 maybe
Play more games buddy
It was never a debate, God of war ragnarok is great but compared to elden ring its just not a debate at all
yep,ragnarok is once in a generation expriience while elden ring is same as any other rpg
@@azrrrrrrrr it's obvious you have never touched elden ring
I never actually played gow ragnarok but I played the shit out of elden ring and am still doing that to this day. I think the real reason why it was so good to me was because it made me feel young again. I’m 16 now. I started when I was 14. When I started elden ring it brought me back to a time in my life when everything was new to me and I was just amazed by everything. It gave me something back that I thought I’d lost. If I could erase my memory just to go back to that very first moment of gazing on the erdtree after stepping out of the cave for the very first time, I would do it in a heartbeat. It really is a life changing experience and I wish I could I could experience it again. Welcome to our community. To new adventures 🍻
Correction.. God of War was absolutely not a delight to indulge in.
Perhaps not for you, but I had fun when I played it
What a disgusting use of words. Absolutely untrue. To each their own but personally the fact that you would play such a fantastic game and say such a thing speaks volumes about what kind of person you are
@@enol1466 a personal attack for sharing an opinion? Lol b*!ch move, you sound exactly like a sweet baby inc rep.
And i boycott ragnarok 🤷♂️
Yeah I easily watched the cutscenes on youtube and got the same as playing it. The gameplay is dogwater but the cutscenes are really good.
@@GenDrake3 this proves to me that you are absolute garbage at the game. There is so much variety in the game play. The elden ring bias here is so fucking blatant
Elden ring was my first souls game. I had never even watched or touched and before it. In my first playthrough u chose the wretch class(no, I’m not joking) I died all, then died some more. Eventually I came across the forlorn evergoal and after several hrs killed darawell the bloodhound knight. The weapon I got carried me to the end of the game. I did a complete thorough sweep of each area before leaving. 127 hrs later I slayed a god. Then realized I missed dozens of side content and quests. I played again. And again. And again. After doing all that I played again.
Before Elden ring had come out, my favorite game ever was The legend of Zelda: ocarina of time. That has since changed.
I’ve put 23 full days into the game across over 10 playthroughs. After my most recent journey I’ve started hunting down more souls and souls like games. It’s quickly become my favorite Genre of games. Nothing comes close. The pain of dying and getting back up worse for ware & over coming the odds is addicting.
“Fall down 9x, get back up 10x”
-Kairi Same
I have a class ready for the dlc on a 100% file without going into NG+. After that I will do a whole new character to see how seamlessly the dlc blends to the whole game without grinding or prep.
The DLC is coming out on my birthday and I couldn’t be more excited. I have the collectors edition & the Messmer helm pre ordered and vacation put in.
I love hearing these stories of people catching the bug. Once you do theres no going back. IYKYK
I'm in a similar boat. Never played FS games until I tried ds3 back in late 2021 because it was $10 on the steam winter sale and looked interesting. Killed Gundyr, then got hard stuck on a side boss and rage quit. Didn't touch their games again until early 2023 when I finally gave in to the urge to try elden ring. Was hesitant because I didn't want to buy another game that I wouldn't be able to play, but it was by far the most recommended game at the time and so I just bought it and told myself to prepare for a lot of dying. Went into it with a healthy mindset and an expectation of extreme difficulty - an expectation which was met with Margit. I took my time, got good, fell deeply in love with the game and have since played ds1-ds3 including all DLCs as well as sekiro. Fromsoft dominates my "favorite games" list now. It's actually crazy. Bout to platinum elden ring finally. Then might play sekiro again. Their games have genuinely lowered my view of most other developers.
God of war ragnarok is sick and i love the game despite plot inconsistencies however , elden ring put such a huge impact that it made a niche series popular over and above that people are still getting 500k-1million views for elden ring challenge run videos and such
Here's the thing I loved GOWR and thought it deserved GOTY, but here I am 2 years later I haven't touched the game since I played it, while I have full 10 save files each one with over 140 hours on both Steam and PS5 so it's 20, and I'm still playing Elden Ring so .....I honestly don't know Elden Ring fulfills this grand adventure feeling that no other game does, while GOWR is a great narrative and cinematic experience it's designed to be played once, if there's a spectrum GOWR is closer to the movie experience while Rlden Ring is closer to the pure video game side.
Honestly yeah I went back to Ragnarok for the DLC, but haven’t replayed the story in a minute.
It’s kind of a one-and-done type thing which I sadly forgot to mention in this video.
To me GoW is somekind of interactive movie. You just direct your character from one scene to another, but characters won’t stop talking one sec. And you have absolutely no agency. The story is laid out for you, and you don’t even get to chose if you want to get to know it or not, since no one will shut up.
Its the complete opposite in Elden Ring, where dialogues are rare and enigmatic, where you need to deeply look (or watch hours of content on youtube) to start to grasp the story, and where basically you’re free to go wherever you want
Well we played two games completely different, and its evident you like experiences as ER, which doesnt mean God of War narrative is worse
@@tomasvillafane2052 i didn’t say the game experience of GoW is bad, i said it’s the complete opposite of the one of ER.
And both are really two extremes. Because ER has this contemplative and silent approach, where if you want to understand the story you need to interract with every little mundane items to read their description and try to see the big picture.
While GoW is spewing exposition non stop. Even during the fights Mimir won’t stop talking. 😅
I think it’s two complety different approach, and both are extreme.
ER could have more dialogues, be a little less obscure.
While GoW could clearly have more silence and time for the player to just observe instead of listening to the constant chit chat between characters
Gow had pretty graphics and the Father/Son connection story but it just didn't have what the old Gow games had, Elden ring improved on the things Fromsoft is so good at, and the Lore and story in Elden ring is just Immense, unlike Gow it's not all shoved in your face, you are the main character, unlike following a set story like Gow. So much to discover in Elden Ring, but unlike Gow Elden ring had Freedom, and the open world was just something to behold
God of War is good but feels dragged out at 35ish hours. Elden ring is over 100 hours and I could go for more.
That says it all
This was hard for me, because I played GoW first and it was my favorite PS game ever, then I played Elden Ring a year later and it is one of my favorite games of all time. But also they're two very different games.
I’m in a very similar situation where I played GoW first and really enjoyed it.
Then I played Elden Ring and was blown away. Doesn’t mean I’m going to disregard the fun I had playing GoW though.
Great video! Always excited to see a new channel grow. Can’t wait to see you get to Sekiro.
Both games are great but i havent touched Ragnarok since i beat Vahalla. Elden Ring on the other hand i still play to this day.
About the emotional payback I would argue against it. What is more impressive? A Game that simply show you emotions on a screen like a movie (in a very good way still) or a game that have no face expressions but still manage to move the players so much that they question their own choices? (Rannis and Milicints questline as an example). For me, the second one is more impressive to achive
I love both games but Elden ring doesn't even capture a flicker of the emotional magic god of war made me feel. I love elden ring and its tragic beauty but it can't hold a candle to God of wars performances
@@enol1466But the Emotiones come from others. In Elden Ring the Emotions comes from your own struggle. I think that was the Point
What choices? I have never made a choice in the elden ring
I never cared for rannie since she's a puppet with basically no character. And i only played her questline because of dark moon greatsword.
Games are a Visual medium which means: show.
God of war is undeniably better at showing stuff.
Elden ring has advantages in lore for sure but actually showing story, emotions and stuff? Nah
Play baldur's gate 3 and then see what a real choice is.
@@alariaaurora8456 Well I guess it is all about the personal taste^^ I tried out baldurs gate 3 and stopped playing after 5 hours as I personally thought it was a bit boring^^
Elden ring was my first from software game. I loved it. And still play it. Two years later. I’ve also played God of war. The biggest difference for me between the two. Is in Elden Ring. Your character has 3-D movement. In God of war, you don’t. You can simply turn round and face the camera for instance. You have to rotate the whole world just to look at your character who is always on the left-hand side of the screen for some reason. That took me a long time to get used to. And I hated it…🤷🏻♂️🏴
Bro watching you I thought you have at least a mil subs😳, I’m impressed by the quality!, and you are very well spoken my brother keep it up🔥
Also Sekiro is my favorite, it was my first souls game so I might be a bit biased, but yeah definitely save it for last cuz one thing I’ll say that it will make the others look a bit boring (apart from Elden ring ofc😂)
For me GOW Ragnarok was a disappointment
The story is the main reason why as the antagonists didn’t live up to expectations
Kratos and Atreus relationship felt annoying coming from the part of Atreus
Yes he is a kid but he still annoyed me
Also the gameplay is not as fun as Elden Ring since a huge section in GOW Ragnarok has the most boring section with Atreus
Also why can’t Kratos be as raw as he was in his past as well as be a good character?
It would’ve been a more fun gameplay experience
The writing was already in the wall at the soft reboot. Kratos is now a softer guy compared to the power fantasy savage he was at the trilogy.
And to top it off the reboot was written by a guy who hated the main trilogy. And this is a Sweet Baby project no less. Hence why Kratos cries now, why Agroboda and her nan is black in Yggdrisil, why Kratos hasn't snapped Freya's neck when she tried to kill him and his son.
The Kratos we have known growing up die at Mount Olympus.
@@John-rn1nm Dude Cory loves trilogy wtf are you talking
Great video man. Props to you. Best wishes🎉
This is a debate? 😂
This has long been settled. Elden Ring has no equal in the last several years only getting competition from Bloodborne which is yet another FromSoftware masterpiece. GoW isn't trash by any means its a solid 8. Just look at the response to ER DLC trailer it took over the internet lol. FromSoft and Miyazaki are the devs who actually put up and always bang.
God of War Ragnarok focuses too much on things I personally do not care about. The gameplay is fine but doesn't offer much from face value.
I would play it again if it wasn't for the intrusive story that I absolutely can not stand.
Yeah the Story in this Game wasnt the best. That and the Atreus sections are the reason I didn't Beat the Game nearly as many times I did gow 2018
This is not even a debate. Elden Ring is miles better than GOWR. Its an insult to compare Elden Ring to GOWR. Elden Ring should be compared to all time greats like Witcher 3, RDR2, BOTW, Skyrim, Minecraft, GTAV, Bloodborne, Sekiro, Hollowknight etc
RDR2 are not to compare to these games too interm story it's good but the gameplay still just like all other shooting games nothing new u just aim and fire no diversity of game play
Gowr is a fucking masterpiece better than even some of the games u listed. While Elden ring might be better, Gowr is an insanely good game and honestly top ten story game of all time
No it's not, there's mpre cutscenes than gameplay. It's more of a movie than a GAME.
@@Bitch_senpai good ass movie
@@bruv399 mediocre tbh.
i played gow ragnarok first when elden ring won i was kind of confused but after putting in 200+ hours on elden ring i can understand why it won they both deserved goty
always a joy to see a new souls fan!
At 3:43 only one achievement is releated to an ending out of the 3. the most got achivement is 27,4% currently which is funny because it is a side content ending.
why do people act like 2 legends can not co-exist?
Cuz elden ring is so much better lol
Also no one cares about second place
@@lennxeath3293 I love Elden ring but you fanboys are so weird. Especially with these 2 games that the only thing they have in common is that they both contain melee based combat
@@stang9806 see it's not the fanboy why I say this is yes gow is an amazing game but it's not game of the year and I go back to my other comment. No one cares for second place
They can and people do let them. Nobody denies that rdr2 and elden ring are both some of the best games ever, but gowr just isn’t legendary statis and therefore cant coexist with er
ER by far the best for me. Playing NG+ 5 right now. I've never played an ARPG before. I found Ragnarok far too similar to the predecessor. I couldn't wait to get it finished. ER is my favourite game of all time now. Ragnarok not even in the top 10
Elden ring is the better *game* while God of War Ragnarök is a better *story*
Fromsoft really made a landmark impact with a game that many consider to be the gold standard in open world design. The exploration, the lore, the variety, the scale, the world & the bosses are all amazing. Finished it over 40 times, it’s never bored me. Only gripes I have it with Elden ring are the occasional BS difficulty spikes & how it sometimes funnels players into more Meta builds.
But I gotta give Ragnarök credit. Addictive combat, satisfying character arcs, Oscar worthy performances, a well written story & plenty of side content. And let’s not forget the bosses, the fight with Thor is so bombastic & badass. Only downside would be that it feels too much like a movie (especially Ironwood) & the finale was a little anticlimactic.
Conclusion? Both are masterpieces
The Story can be deeper if you invest more time in it. But yeah, GoW is a Story-driven game and ER a Gameplay-driven-Game (but i have to say im discovering the lore for myself right now and ist so awesome, its like a puzzle and your Imagination goes wild with it)
Yes I do love fighting Erdtree avatar 10 times
great video, souls and yakuza are my favorite game franchises so i'm excited for future content here!
It's a movie vs a masterpiece of a game. Eldenring is wayyyyy better
Would be great if the two games are actually the same genre.
Now do DOOM ETERNAL vs ARKHAM ASYLUM
It's not even a debate to me, playable movie Vs freedom, I choose freedom.
I don't get the "attractiveness" of Kratos and the son is annoying.
Dark Souls II is not a great souls game but it's not a bad game either, to me it's well above average when it comes to games at large. Lots of over spoiled cry baby gamers out there.
Wait you said we only go 8 realms in god of war but you go to all 9
The beginning of GOWR actually made me finally finish my DS2 playthrough. Idk why, either the story or combat just feels to slow so far. I’m like 4/6 hours in and I’m just doing side quest stuff and only just began the search for tyr. Could also be the fact that I just got the plat for 2018 so maybe I was a lil burnt out.
My wife and are playing this right now. She playing GoW & I'm running an INT build in Elden Ring.
i am SO HAPPY when someone else enters fromsoftware's games space, because when you really dedicate the time they give experiences like no others. I think that for me the absolute best in term of the first playthrough are Elden Ring and Sekiro given how much you can feel your character getting stronger towards the end of the game. Looking forward to your other videos!
Both games are excellent games, and had they been released on separate years, there wouldn't be competition between them for GOTY. However, Elden Ring honestly deserves its place. While comparatively few players have beaten it (I haven't and am holding off for the DLC now), the game has always amazed me in the combination of visuals, the environmental storytelling, the sheer scale of the game, and how From Software managed to bring it all together. God of War: Ragnarok, does a lot of the same, but it is a narratively focused game and isn't really reflective of your playstyle or the fact that it is your choices which impact the story. Because the story is yours in Elden Ring.
As for the difficulty, I am a veteran of From Software games, mostly the Dark Souls series and Bloodborne, I expect the difficulty. At the same time, I will not diss God of War: Ragnarok either. As I said, had they been released on different years, they wouldn't have had to fight for GOTY, with one losing out. And not because of lack of quality, but because one simply scratched the itch for a quality game even better than the other. Which says it all right there.
8:01 LMAO my first run, i think i used a spear and a shield then switched over to the dual hammers w jump attacks💀istg its so op like i breezed thru endgame, not taking more than 5 tries for any boss including malenia😭
Really well done vid
While I do love GoW: Ragnarok, I eventually came to the conclusion that it was a massive disappointment when it comes to the story. Limiting it to just 2 games instead of a trilogy really affected it.
I personally like playing my games and not watching movies
This never was a debate, Elden Ring is clearly better in every way. I will absolutely watch you shit on GoW tho.
As a huge elden ring fan myself, you can’t just say that and give no reasoning. I’d say they are equal in many ways
lmao. you either havent played ragnarok or you are full of shit.
I personally thought the race for goty 2022 wasn’t even close, gameplay aside, elden rings hype half a year after its launch was on par with release gowr which is insane
"Hey everyone, today i'm gonna compare two great games that have nothing to do with each other to incite debate and clickbait on my video"
You clicked on the video and left a comment, so I guess you took the bait
Eldin ring. Moving on
ER there is no debate.
GoW is the more cohesive story, but Elden is clearly the better game. It utilizes every aspect of what makes a video game different from other forms of media, most of the lore is found on descriptions of weapons and armour, what other media could story tell like that? It’s like comparing The Godfather and Lord of the Rings, one is a masterpiece in story telling with a clear goal and story to tell, while the other is a world with its own history, politics, religion, languages, factions, etc
If santa monica wanted the goty for Ragnarok they shouldn't have botched the finale. Also the fact fromsoft doesn't bend their creativity to accomodate companies like sweet baby while santa monica glazes them.
Iirc, DS2 isn't said to be a bad game, its just not as good as the first and third one. Its still a good game, just mot as good as the others.
I have always had this theory (not sure if it makes sense to call it a theory, but let’s stick with it for now) that within a trilogy, the second part is either the best or the worst entry in that trilogy.
Examples of the best: Sam Raimi’s Spider-Man 2, Batman Arkham City
Examples of the worst: Dark Souls 2 (supposedly because I haven’t played it yet), Cars 2
Thing is they’re not even bad, just mid compared to the other entries.
@@d1ode DS2 is a great game but I won't defend its ganks and adaptability
I adore both games but i admit my own bias when it comes to FS games. I feel like they were made for me and my tastes. Elden Ring is the closest thing to a perfect game for me. GoW Ragnarok is still absolutely incredible though
Having to play so much as Atreus, I could only stomach one play through of GOWR. Even though I really loved that game
The good thing of letting Sekiro to be the last in the line is that, once you´ve played it, all other combat systems will seem outdated...
Then you need to play more games because Sekiro combat system is nothing to write home about
Finishing eldenring and i'm like yeahh what build's gonna be used next run!
Finishing g.o.w and i'm like yeahh it's good but i aint gonna wait and sit trough that again 😂
3:40 Elden ring's completion rate is actually pretty normal for most games on steam. If you check of the percentages on most games, 20% seems to be the average percentage of people that complete the game.
For me Elden ring is by far the best. I got bored of God of War pretty quickly but Elden Ring I've done multiple runs and still find new things.
Gow is more like a movie to me, and ER is a pure game, the open world combine solulike is not everyday you can see.
I think I managed to play god of war ragnarok for maybe 2 hours before closing it down and never thinking about it again (I did not start at the beginning). The combat was good, but I couldn't help but feel like I was playing through an extended tutorial. I am surprised to see people rate it so highly.
Same here. 2 hours, was bored and never touched it again. I went back and played Elden Ring.
@@sandcakeI got more than 2 hours but ultimately bored and didn't finish it.
elden ring story: marika is a bad mother...
Both games are fantastic and I've played through both a few times each. However, Elden ring is on another level. It is a legendary, all time great game. I think most people (even older gamers like me) would agree it is at least a top 10, even top 5 all time. I'm sure many would even put it on the top.
Debate? I don't know where have you been but It's so clear since the games launch pal
I played elden ring and got my ass kicked by tree sentinel for 4 hours and quit. I continued to patiently wait for ragnorok and it didn’t disappoint. I loved it. But despite that, i still respected elden ring for what it was and what it represented and thought that the game just wasnt for me. I was not mad it won game of the year. (If anything i would have been upset if ragnorok won because it would have showed the game awards are rigged towards brain dead companies like ign).
I even came back to elden ring and now obsessed with it. I have beat the game fresh 5 times and i cant say the same or ragnorok, which again i still love. But what elden ring represents is much bigger.
I didn't even finish gow. Im on like ng15 on elden ring though
Debate? I can't wait for Shadow of the Erdtree to start my second Elden Ring playthru. I sold GOW: Ragnarok as soon as I finished the game - incredible letdown.
We are absolutely blessed to have fromsoftware in our lives
We are indeed!
Ragnarok is a great game. Elden Ring is something beyond that.
800 hours mate, aint played a game even remotely close to Elden Ring Since my first time with WoW and before that FF7. Honestly one of the greatest games ever made. Easily top 5 of all time, without debate.
Ambiguous as the stories can be, Soulsborne lore is often talked about long after launch because of the constant digging and discussion surrounding them. I won't say, between God of War and EldenRing, which is better, just that that alone I find has given Soulsborne games their longevity. I do appreciate linearity from time to time, which was why I enjoyed Lies of P, both from a narrative and level POV.
Also, no question, gameplay in Elden Ring was fun. As my first Soulsborne game, I got it two days after launch, played it for over a year, platinumed it, and even though I had since stopped playing it, I still have discussions over things like builds and lore over the game. To me, Elden Ring deserved GOTY over Ragnarok for the simple fact discussion was constant long after launch. You can bet that hype will not only be reinvigorated, but also extended when the DLC comes out.
Played both. First GoW Ragnarok at launch. I believed GoW to be the superior game and then i played Elden Ring recently. I was wrong on so many levels.
Comparison makes no sense outside of the Game Awards context. But if you insist, Elden Ring stomps this game.
Played about 26 hours of GoW trying to platinum it (not done yet) and got around 15 hours into my first Elden ring playthrough and honestly there is no comparison here. I’m a VERY casual “gamer” but Elden ring has me playing every day for multiple hours
I don't really think there is a debate. Either you like ER or you don't lol GoW is cool though.
I could not finish GoW:R. I got bored very fast. It is just not my game.
But ER, I finished ER 5 times. 100% Steam Archievements. To me, there is no question about it.
Elden Ring is more for hardcore.
God of War is more for casuals who are impressed by graphics and presentation.
I do enjoy both but I only see myself playing GoW maybe 2 or 3 times.
elden ring is for casuals and gow is for gamers you mean .
There is no debate lol
Both games are masterpieces for a multitude of different reasons.
For me personally, the hud when fighting in god if war looks like visual vomit. Looks like an Ubisoft game when fighting, and the combat overall is just alright. I like god of war by the way that’s just a take that I have.
Both are incredible games and I have more hours in elden ring(500) than Gow Ragnarok(170) but still like gow Ragnarok better. For me it’s just the linear story and also being a huge gow fan and only being a souls fan now that I’ve played elden ring.
Can you review The legend of Zelda Breath of the wild or Tears of the kingdom?
For me, both are top 10 games of all time. But I liked Ragnarok more. ER instilled a sense of wonder rarely found in games. Ragnarok made me sad, happy, and angry. I value those emotions more than wonder.
Its just that simple.
I like them both but I do like ER a bit more.
So do I
GOTY vs GOW, there is no debate and wait until Shadow Of The Erdtree drops, it will have the potential to be the first DLC game of the year, ELDEN RING is goated 💪