$100 Homemade Kayak
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My first time Kayaking and this Kayak held strong. czcams.com/users/postUgkx4k5UrhC3v_Y4hIEaXLGvHcN5a5aBmZNB The water got pretty rough as a speed boat zipped by me, and the Kayak withstood it (I expected to be capsized). The Ores are very easy to put together, the pump worked beautifully. the seats are a bit hard to sit in after a while (I recommend sitting on the floor). after reading the reviews I was very scared it'd get a hole in it, the material is very strong and durable. The Air valve may need a small Phillips head screwdriver to adjust, other than that, it's well worth the money!(update)I've gone Kayaking in 3 Lakes and 2 rivers totaling about 40 miles. the kayak had two holes and they patched easily and no other problems can't wait for kayaking season this year!
If the pvc is sealed, it doesn’t need foam. The foam is just extra weight. Air weighs less than foam.
and the foam won't dry
my thoughts exactly
Marc Moberg foam would just be for cracks as a backup
latorgator23 I get that, but if they had gone with the original plan of using straps instead of putting screws in it, the foam would be useless. Not to mention the fact that it won’t dry inside that cavity. Unless they left the caps off to let it dry (probably 24 hours) it will just stay a goopy mess.
um that foam will dry within an hr. Use that shit all the time
When I went to high school I had to take geometry as one of my math classes. Using the volume of a cylinder will tell you how much weight your kayak will float. The wood touching the water floats by itself so you could basically call that a neutral weight, but the materials above the water level all count as weight along with the weight of your pipes. So you have 4" X 120" pipes. V=Pie times R squared times height so you have 1507 cubic inches of volume per pipe or 3014 cubic inches in them both. A gallon of water is 231 cubic inches so your two pipes displace 13 gallons of water. A gallon of water weighs 8.35 lbs. so your 1st effort kayak can effectively float 109 lbs. Volume displacement is not arithmetic--so if you went to 8 inch pipes you'd have 12,058 cubic inches of displacement and your kayak would now float 436 lbs.
Bravo
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Not sure if your math is correct or not i am too lazy check; But it is impressive!
I love math people.
You lost buoyancy when you put all that foam in the pipe. The pipe now holds less air.
Ha ha true
@Josh Frank I desperately wanted to tell them that their foam was being wasted.
Should have used 3 6" pipes
@Cheesy Jay if they're mounted perfectly symmetrically than yes they'll help stability, and the farther you mount them from the hull the more stable it will be (kind of like an outrigger). It will drastically impair maneuverability tho, honestly isn't worth it just buy a bigger boat if you need the capacity
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If he made this boat wider. With bigger pipes, it would be a perfect fishing boat.
A light weight material you could use for making a cheap boat like that,is rigid insulation foam board. It will still float even if it's punctured. Where I live I can get 8'x4'x4" sheets for little over 30$. Probably need 2 sheets at the most for a boat. I love this kind of creativity! Rock on!
12:58 his example for its gonna float is “it’s shaped like the titanic” 😂
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Spoiler, it doesn’t work
Great video. A thing about the foam. Adding foam to an airtight void will NOT make it any more buoyant. It will prevent the void from taking on water if there were to be a breach, BUT the only thing foam is doing at this point is adding a small amount of weight. Think about it this way; what would float better? A balloon full of air? or a balloon full of foam?
Man, read Archimedes principle, put whatever is heavier than the air inside and you will make the problem worse! LOL
I think i heard that the spray foam will absorb water instead of making it more buoyant. And putting foam in the pipe will only help when the pipe takes on water it is a reserve buoyancy so your just adding weight. Looks cool though.
Quick calculation, 1 liter of water is 1 kg of weight, the amount of water displaced (in weight) is the amount bouyant force (Archimedes figured that out in a bath tub). So if you want to support of 150 kg, make sure your pvc pipes are about 150 liters in volume.
I looked at this for 5 sec and knew that it wont displace enough water to support your weight....i dont know how you people survive
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the expanding foam would not help the buoyancy because the PVC pipe is still the same surface area on the outside. If anything, you made the buoyancy worse for the pipes by making them heavier! Still a great video though,. keep up the awesome uploads my man
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my first thought, its like why are you adding density....
I couldn't finish watching the video. Every time they talked about buoyancy while drilling holes and adding weight
Where the foam helps is if a leak occurs, the pipe fills up with water. The foam still maintains a bit of buoyancy, but depending on the foam it can soak up water also.
You could have calculated the displacement volume of the PVC tubing. You could then figure out what length or how much tubing you would need (depending on your body weight) to keep you a float. If I'm not mistaken you want the displacement to be 3x your body weight, if you want your canoe to not only hold your body weight but remain floating with majority of it staying above the surface :)
One more thing, tell your friends from Favorite when they’re doing the dozer work for the lake that if the land has ever been used as row crop acreage to make sure they do a lot of work with a sub soiler. Because if the land has ever had any field drain tile put in it to keep the water drained off of it the piping will still be there. And some of it may still be functional which could keep the lake from holding water. This could be disastrous for the lake if it’s got any in it. The subsoiler will destroy the piping so it won’t drain anymore. Just some thoughts I’ve been meaning to share for a while. Peace
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Even though the boat didn't work out very well I appreciate you posting this it is still helpful for people looking into this stuff.
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Lfg is so skeptical 😂 he's a measure twice cut once kind of dude. You can tell hes been on his woodworking game. Rob on the other hand is flying by the seat of his pants lol.
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Dang, you beat me to it rob and lfg. I was gonna build one of these. Homemade stand up paddle board anyone?
You could calculate the buoyancy, but in this case an easy approximation if you ignore that density of the pipe plastic is to just fill up the pipes with water and then weight the water. The foam was great just in case it leaks, but it does decrease the buoyancy. A simple mod to make this thing float would be to add some 5 gallon water bottles as pontoons. 5 gallons is a bit more than 40 pounds of floatation. If you put a bottle on each corner then it would probably balance pretty well too and you would look so stylish 🤠
Adding foam inside won't add buyoyancy. The buoyancy of an object is equal to the weight of the water it displaces essentially. As long as the object (plus you) is lighter than that, it will float. Adding foam would actually make it heavier and therefore less bouyant. You'd have to add more PVC pipes to displace more water to get it to float well. Boats always have foam in case it takes on water, to keep it somewhat buoyant and not sink to the bottom - not to help them float better.
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i think leaving the PVC pipes empty would have been much better. And probably put a third one in the middle. Maybe 2 more
Or for less money buy one on Amazon like I did five years ago.
Density of water 62.4lbs per cubic ft. Need roughly 3.2 cuft of displacement to float 200 lbs including the pvc. That equals to 14.5 ft roughly of tube, since you dont want the whole thing submerged double that so you need roughly 30 ft of 4.5" od tubing to make this work reasonably well. Keep up the great work!
Rob: I ran the numbers for your pontoons: You need 4ish pontoons for this to work well.
Buoyancy = weight of displaced water (more or less) = (volume of pontoons)*(Water weight per volume)
Your pontoons have a combined volume of 1.745ft^3
( 1.745ft^3 = 2pontoons * 10ft * pi * (1/6ft)^2 )
Water has a weight of 62.427 lb/ft^3, so your pontoons displace about 109lbs of water when they are fully submerged.
I would add another pontoon to each side (4 total) to give you a buoyancy of 218lbs. This has to support not only you but the whole weight of the kayak.
Also get rid of the foam it weighs more than air so you're making it heavier, not lighter. People use foam for flotation devices because it displaces lots of space (ie, water volume) without much weight, but you already have the pipe taking up the space, so the foam isn't getting you anything.
US makes everything so complicated. REST OF THE WORLD = 1 Kilogram = 1 Litre of water = 100 cubic centimetres of volume.
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As long as the pipe is sealed, you don't need foam. The only thing foam does is capture air. You're actually just adding additional weight. Example, no one fills pool floats with foam so they can float.
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Air is what makes the pipe buoyant. Adding foam reduces the buoyancy of the pipe. Boat manufacturers use it for sound deadening and buoyancy if the hull sinks.
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Foam in boats is more emergency floatation in the case that the boat fills up or capsizes. Inflatable bladders would be a better idea in case of leakage of the pipes. To increase buoyancy you need to increase the volume without increasing the weight.
My pipeyak used a bridge with 4 45s Angeled up 4inch tees x4 and a lawnchain in the middle and was much wider and very stable... Very happy with my build
You know your life is good when you have to put PVC pipe and 2X4's in the cab of your truck because the bed is full with fishing/ hunting gear.
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Alright Fellas, with a bit of googling, you could have predicted the performance without experimentation. Using the formula for the volume of a cylinder, we can calculate that a 4" pipe contains about 150 cubic inches of air per foot. Factoring in the weight of water, that will displace a maximum of about 5.4 pounds of it. Then you'll need to subtract the weight of the pipe itself, which a plumbing supply website tells me is 2lbs for a foot of the 4" stuff, which gives us a practical buoyancy of 3.4 pounds/foot. Assuming the weight of the wooden frame plus the goofball is 200 pounds, divide by 2(number of pontoons) and you'd need a 29'5" boat to even reach neutral buoyancy. In reality, you'd want the thing to sit about halfway out of the water, so we're looking a 59 foot boat. Not happening. The good news is that the volume of a cylinder increases exponentially with diameter, so if you had only doubled your diameter up to 8 inches, you'd be netting 16 1/2 pounds of buoyancy per foot. Now you only need your craft to be a manageable 12 feet. That's what you'll want to try next time.
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An object floats when that object displaces more water than what it weighs. By adding the foam you added more weight so now it must displace more water but it's volume is the same so it can't displace the extra water. It would float better if the pipes were full of air. The reason one foams a boat is so in case it sinks the foam takes up space that would normally fill with water.
For sure gonna try! Keep up the amazing job!
The Loctite brand of that expanding foam is much much better. Trust me.
Vanilla Gorilla Loctite and Rigid, won't go wrong with either
Yea if doing stupid Locktite Foam is far better.........
FYI the 2 pvc pipes can only carry about 65 lbs each. The wood also floats and will therefore carry some weight. Best I figure, the entire thing can only keep roughly 100 lbs completely dry.
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Has a Truck still sticks pvc out the back window
He has a cover on the back and it's still probably full of a lot of stuff
Did you knows he had bed cover and a bunch of stuff in the back of his truck
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Always twist your PVC when glueing it. Helps kinda eat the plastic and put better seal. Done electrical all my life and just kinda helps.
Love your vids, this one was awesome!
The foam increases the density. You added mass to the same volume, mass/volume=density. More dense equals less buoyant. In the short term it makes it a safer boat because a leak wouldn't fill the pipe as quickly, but the foam will break down fairly quickly, so ultimately all it did was cost more.
Why not put pool noodles in the pipes?
Captain here. Not enough water displacement. Also use lighter materials unlike thick slabs of wood.
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Each of those pipe displace approximately 54lbs. If you estimate the weight of the kayak at 200lbs and roughly another 200lbs for you and any gear, you would need about eight of those pipe to hold you above the water line.
This is a great video to explain to elementary school kids why physics and math are important.
Foam is why it’s sinking
na he didn't have enough boyancy to start with to support the overall weight, foam didn't add much weight but he is using the wrong foam.
Lol, foam doesn't equal more buoyancy XD
Cody Teichert No but if the pvc leaks and gets wet it will still float. Whereas with no foam it would sink quickly.
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If you kept the PVC fully sealed. And put a bike inner tube nipple in the top you could pressurize the pipe to 30psi(I think it's only rated for 40psi). It would actually give it more buoyancy than adding foam weight that does nothing but add weight.
Zip tie a few foam swimming noodles to the sides. They'll help increase the kayak's buoyancy and keep the kayak from dipping under the water.
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The pipes are more buoyant empty than with foam in them. It is a matter of displacing water , and the foam just makes the pipe heavier, thus less buoyant. If the pipe got a crack then the foam would help keep the water displaced keeping it afloat. The reason some boats (kayaks and canoes) have foam in the bow and stern is in the case of the boat capsizing it would stay somewhat afloat and not sink to the bottom of the lake.
Foam will not make it more buoyant. It’s the closed volume displacement that makes it float. Back in the day they even made giant boat hulls out of concrete.
But, the spray foam will not be good over the long therm because it is not closed cell and will eventually soak up water. Your better off making a truly airtight tube, while adding a drain valve in case water does ever find its way into the tube.
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No foam required if straps are used instead of drilling holes in the pvc. Add 4 tees, and install out riggers.
guys... A little math was really helpful there... A good plumbing store, and the pipes twice the capacity, and you were an instant success...
Im a plumber and the way you primered and glued the pvc pipe made me cringe
Trysten Ruiz haha same, that primer was everywhere! #hack
Trysten Ruiz as a plumber does the primer expand anssoften the pvc allowing the glue to seal and set better?
considering that hes not a plumber im not surprised
Trysten Ruiz I’m a carpenter, you’d really hate to see me prime and glue a pipe then lol
Matt Jones the primer cleans the surface and the cement will almost melt the top layer of plastic and bond it to the other
I'd fish out of it...
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Buoyancy is created by water displacement, adding foam to something like your boat will only help if your boat is submerged it will not help your boat float higher in the water. To calculate buoyancy first you need to calculate the volume of your two cylinders with the following equation V=πr2h which if you are using 4in pvc that is 10 ft it would be about 1.81 cubic feet. Then you need to calculate buoyant force so take the following equation F = (Vw) which in fresh water would be 112.22lbs for each pvc pipe before they are totally submerged. Someone feel free to check my math because I could be wrong but if you want your pvc sections to float half way out of water your total load weight including the kayaks weight could only be 112lbs with 2 4in pvc pipes 10 ft long..
the foam was a good idea, but that's the wrong stuff, it's not meant to expand to the size you'd want, it's meant to seal cracks. The foam is also typically a backup in case the pontoons get a leak, they won't be able to fill with enough water to cause you to sink, so yes it's adding weight, but not a lot if you used the right foam and it would save you from sinking.
LOL! Awesome video!
You made a mini pontoon boat 😂
Put air valves and fill with helium =maxim buoyancy and if it leaks just refill
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Do the math, to float, it has to displace more water than it weighs. Use larger diameter thin wall pipe. Wood is heavy and wicks water. use pvc saddles to frame it instead of wood.
You should have put four pool noodles in each pipes it would definitely make it more buoyant
Guys it is very simple to calculate the liters of water that enter the PVC pipes and this is what floats you have to calculate first. regards
I recommend you, instead putting 2"x4" (wood)across, continue using pvc, you gonna need 10 ,"T"s and lot of cuts but that would make it more lighter and resistant to the pressure
That was so close to floating Rob! Maybe more tubes need added or some floats down the center that are lightweight?
Hate to bring this up but putting foam inside the pipes does not increase the buoyancy. It in fact lessens the buoyancy by the weight of the foam. For maximum buoyancy you should seal the tubes empty. You can increase the boyancy by evacuating the air or using gas that is lighter than the atmosphere.
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A life jacket would be the preferred option the USS Sunk.
You need two of those bridged together like a catamaran with the seat located between the two pontoons.
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