ADVANCED Reina Stance Guide | TEKKEN 8
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- čas přidán 5. 08. 2024
- A full advanced stance guide for Reina in Tekken 8. The guide features a tutorial on how to beat the most common counter strategies eg. jab after FF2 on block, down jab etc, as well as advanced mind game and stance transitions.
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Timestamps:
00:00 - Intro
00:14 - Countering Jabs After FF2
02:45 - Countering Down Jabs After FF2
03:07 - Armour, Backswing & Parries
03:49 - Countering Heaven's Wrath SSR
04:33 - Countering Heaven's Wrath Armour
04:53 - Unsoku Looping
06:00 - F2,3 Transitions
06:40 - DF4,2,3 Transitions
07:30 - B1,1,3,3 Transitions
08:03 - Outro
Music: TEKKEN 8 OST - Secluded Training Ground - Hry
Channel is a blessing for a Reina main
The moment when you wanted to watch a guide to find something new, and realized that you already using all this stuff, made me feel like a good player, lol
same bro same
same honestly
Ofcourse we are no noobs after all
I'am newbie and i need this video :)
That means all your time labbing is paying off 🔥
the best tipp for me (Tekken Emperor reina main) was the unsoku cancel into wavedash back into unsoku its like a backdash with that long ass range mid heat engager + wavedashoptions. It fcks with the enemys mental stack and is quite usefull in small dosis
WE GETTING OUT OF FLAME RULER WITH THIS ONE! 🔥🔥🔥🔥
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Ayy keep at it bro 👊
Not for me I guess, gotta be stuck here for a while. I switched from a pad to leverless and now I'm back to learning the inputs again :d
We Fujin now, Thanks MC!
I know one really useful stance tip - do not transition to stance over and over again, like it was said in video about transition to HWR after CD 4,2. Even more confusion can be caused if you do not transition into SEN after ff2. But what I really like to do is at range 6 do dash into crouchdash into SEN 3+4. This happens so fast, that they cannot even understand what TF just happened. Use manual transition to SEN more especially if you want something like SEN 4 to get your + frames and do not get floated by jab.
This is solid advice, also running ff2 back to back raw can be really useful if you don't spam it too often (weak to ss) because most players got used to ff2 > SEN so if you don't transition they either mash out something or defend but unless the person you're playing against has the punish locked they will be a few frames late and you will interrupt them in the middle of whatever they are trying to press. Worst case you get blocked again but at least they will respect the possibility of not going to stance making it so they have to commit to hard reads more often.
I recently found out about B1+3 or b2+4 parry vs Lars Dynamic Entry 3 options. You block the first hit then B1+3 the 2nd hits which gives you a guaranteed punish. The parry beats the 1 and 3 but loses to the low (the 2). The benefit from my labbing is that you aren't CH launched by taking the low. Once you've shown the parry Lars players can delay the followups after Dynamic Entry 3 but if he starts delaying the timing, you're able to sidestep.
Fairly useful find for the matchup
ill admit i've never even tried using other counters in that situation but im pretty sure youre probably 10 times better off just using d3+4 after the first block, from my experience it works almost perfectly & basically completely stops the Lars from even using it
@@jarrav8186 D3+4 doesn't work unless they are delaying the timing. The frame data doesn't even work out either d3+4 is 16f, the follow ups from den 3 are 12f for the 1, 17f for the 2, 14f for the 3. You are also -5f after the first block. I don't see how D3+4 works cuz you're getting counter hit and counter hit launched on the low option
Unlike the regular unsoku stance, the unsoku transition after f2 is cancellable with back. So you can f2,d,b, anything. There is a slight delay, you cannnot cancel it immediately so hold back until you see reina backwalking.
Where will Reina mains be without you
Dang
They will Probably on someone that is easier to play 😅
The goat back at it again. Can always count on you to update me on the Reina tech
This is awesome, I'm finally catching up to you in knowledge! I just labbed all of this stuff myself after relying on your videos for so long! Thank you!!!
Thanks for putting this together. Trying my luck at Reina and wasn’t sure what all her stance transitions were.
Best Reina guide videos out there! So helpful :)
Video is fire, thanks ! I also noticed the f2d from Ulsan and was amazed on how well it works in matches
This was the guide I just needed! ff2 counterplay has been more common now so tech counterplay is the most helpful and also seeing the f2 having plenty of options aside from f2,3 to sentai is some great tech I should implement more from now on
This guy's so seriouis, he's like Colonel Campbell briefing you like "Snake, you must use proper counterplay for enemy's defensive options."
It's an AI voice
😂😂
That’s what happens when u use an ai voice
@@MizuSoulXBR Really? Didn't spot that. I thought AI voices have more artifacts here and there. Props to the creator for putting work into it then, good job!
@@bennymountain1he didn't create the ai voice either
Yooo thanks I didn't know she had other confirms to sen 3 and her mix up potential is huge thanks again 🙏🙏
Great vid your videos have been a blessing since i decided to get back into fighting games.
You my friend are goated, with all these Reina guides. Looking forward to seeing how your f2 instead of ff2 experiment plays out.
Thank you so much for this Reina guide. I got a lot better at using her because of you!
👊😁
The absolute best channel for Reina mains. Thank you for making Tekken 8 so fun for a scrub like me.
Bro thank you. The entire video was informative for me because i didn't know any of that tricks. Im gonna use them from now Thank you.
F2 to stance is genius! Also gotta start doing df4,2 more. This is useful for all levels of gameplay. Well done :)
Insane video dude, very well explained
Bro this video was golden. Thank you so much
Excellent video as always.
Thanks for this, I realised that many players have adapted to Reina’s ff2 mix-up game and I’m getting my ass handled to because of that. This video helps me shed light on a couple of different things I’m able to do in matches.
Yesss I've needed this.
1:00 Into the video and you have informed me so much. You got me to subscribe. 👏🏿
Fantastic video! I've been looping b 1,1, 3, f for sometime now! It seems like everyone knows Reinas tricks, so I've been labbing a ton of different options! 1+4 (cancel), into 1+4 can be a solid way to dodge a quick high and punish with EWGF!
Great video!
Fantastic
Didn't know any of these things! Thanks a lot as usual.
(leaving a comment for the yt algorithm)
huge help man thanks
Phenomenal video yet again Mishima guy. On top of curing my cancer, this video got me out of shitty blue ranks! Huzzah!! 🎉🎉🎉
whoa! it's been a while since the last Reina guide...
Best Tekken videos here, bar none.
Much appreciated! Thank you ❤️
THANKS BRO
Really useful thx so much
As a guy who don't play Reina at all. It's also help a lot in the MU lmao
Great video and good work man!
You're a legend, best reina coach 👏 🙌 ❤
Thank you 🙏🏽
You do the Mishima legacy proud with these videos my Reina thanks you
Yes! more reina
The amount of times I rewinded 2:47 to confirm if I heard what I heard and laughed. I’m like it sound like he saying d*** jabbing. I still didn’t wanna believe it and turned on the captions and it’s there lol. I laughed again ☠️. He says it so casually like he’s introducing us to a case mystery
idk if you actually know, but that's the term for those jabs, mostly the d1 or d2 depending on the button. for reasons that's shown...yeah lol
@@i_am_gant7142 never knew lol thought only me and my ppl said it lmao now it’s even more funny.
Yeah, it’s the adapted term for the whole Tekken community for obvious reasons. Sometimes I say dab tho if I’ve been saying it a lot.
thanks again
Thank you senpai!
1:48 even while joking, his tone is serious as hell
One more tip: if opponent always jabs or down jabs after blocking ff2, you can opt to not go into sentai and immediately do low parry. If opponent does down jab - you always low parry, if opponent jabs you can FC df3 launch them.
Side note: I discovered sen 1+2 long time ago to launch Crouchers in heat and for good mini combo with HW 2, also if opponent does not press anything after sen 1+2 you can pickup for combo with ws3 but its very difficult and impractical.
Thanks!
You’re welcome! And thank you!! Super appreciated 🙏🙏🙏
Thanks
Was getting my ass whooped by people hitting power crush during stances, this came at a perfect time
W video thank you
Noticed F 2 hold U or D went into stance after your last video. Didn't see it in the move list though. Might have missed it if it's a note on F23. Anyway good vids. 1+4 CD electric got me some wins after your video.
Another good thing about unsoku that i haven’t seen many people mention is that you can get 12f electrics at any point during the stance if you df and press 2 one frame later. You can also get 16 frame cd3 this way, though neither of these work this way for the heaven’s wrath to CD transition.
something else i'd like to add is that if you're in heat, it's a really good gimmick to go for sentai 1+2 after ff2 because even if its blocked, you go into heaven's wrath & people CONSTANTLY forget that you get a massive counter if they try to punch or kick you during that, though against any decent player it'll really only work once. Oh and obv if they duck after ff2 you get massive damage from the sentai 1+2 > iron hand > heat dash > df4, 2, 3 > WGS 1, 4
Something else to point out regarding f2~unsoku is you can cancel it into duck or sidestep which gives you access to even more moves. I did some testing and if the opponent decides to retaliate with a jab string you can cancel f2~unsoku into crouch then ws3+4 under the string and with some training launch them since if they commit to a jab string, ws3+4 will hit at such spacing that will guarantee the electric link. This works even against single jabs but not against all characters (depend on each character's specific jab). One other trick is the fact that you can cancel unsoku 4 into crouch for some mental frame advantage
Small addition to the heaven's wrath anti-powercrush option: from +6 and above (hellsweep into wrath) you actually beat armor moves with just WRA1 before the armor activates, so you can collect your free WRA1,4 or even WRA1f SEN1+2 WRA2 since that works on counter hit. Also works against Yoshi's flash!
I have been trying to learn other stance transition options to jump the opponent with stance mixups, so this has been helpful, especially learning Unsoku to WGS. I may use that a bit more to get my WGS options while making my opponent try to guess. Or make them eat a quick 3.
Paired with her df 3+4 and her f1+2 3, I feel that is going to make an opponent less keen to press buttons. Been using this as a way to make the opponent wary and get a long range low. So Unsoku >WGS will really kick things into gear
EDIT: Having tried Unsoku -> WGS I have had a good bit more success at taking neutral and even making the opponent hesitate cause I threw in some mix-ups. Plus forcing the opponent to think if I will snap a quick Unsoku Heat Engager or if I am going to throw a WGS mix-up. Paired with Raiden mix-ups and counter-hit throws, I can put a good bit of pressure on and go for the transitions between stances.
Great content, this is a huge help to me!
Reina can do a lot of her normals from unsoku, including her homing 3. She can also transition into sentai or f1+2 mixups.
Yooooo I love this stance of hers, I didn't know I love doing fundamentals set ups with char I play,,, this will be so useful ty bro😁😁😁 been learning her because I struggled against her so I picked her up, just used her waveu/eletric 1+2 and 50 50,, decided her to main her, now I need to use her stance koze my combos really sucks,, I use her 2× electrics into fd4,1,3 n jabs💀 getting fkd most of the times but trying bait players with my backdash and movment,,
Ty.
Some extra notes on Sentai 1+2 and WRA. d4,3 in particular as it has some odd uses outside of as a low CH launcher:
- On SEN 1+2 hit near a wall but not immediately against it, WRA. d4,3 will pick the opponent up and get them to the wall. This allows a wall combo to be performed without spending heat on WRA. 2 into heat dash. If you do happen to miss the wall with this (the spacing is a bit tight) it's okay because it sets up slightly better oki than WRA. 2.
- On SEN 1+2 hit, WRA. d4,3 will give you exact oki timing for raw Sentai into grab beating stand blockers as well as all wake up kicks besides spring kick and toe kick, or another Sentai 1+2, which will hit opponents that toe kick or wake up crouching in hopes of avoiding the grab to loop the situation or spring kickers for a tornado combo. If your opponent stays on the ground you can use Sentai 4 to hit grounded. If your opponent likes to tech roll right instead of left, Sentai 1+2 may miss on immediate timing so it becomes worth going for WRA 2 instead for the extra damage, as delaying will make you once again vulnerable to toe kicks on raw sentai oki.
Fun little tool to keep in your back pocket for damage optimization or increasing the mental stack on waking up for your opponent. WRA 2 oki allows the raw sentai into grab but Sentai 1+2 loop will lose to toe kicks as WRA 2 gives 2 less frames of advantage.
Hey great video! I wanted to make my own guide as well and was wondering how you got pictures of inputs that you have displayed occasionally, like at 6:44, for example.
Bow to the queen !
Bro, W fucking video. Already given a like and subbed
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Yoooo thanks so much! 🙏 goated viewer ❤️
I like going into while rising 4 ALOT out of crouch dash and out of HW for pressure, its so op in heat. the timing for their punish seems to be very difficult. at fujin people either jab after at +10 off instinct and get countered by HW stance in heat its hilarious. all they have to do is grab or throw a low they have so much time but it always works. The counter from stance does so much damage as well and if they block after you get all the HW stance mixups, can even cd cancel into while rising 4 again. also good after hellsweep to mix up timings and just confuse the opponent
I'm loving reina because the skill celling is so high, i dream of a day where i can go from stance to stance without thinking and i don't have a particular move i feel the need to use because my style is so fluid.
That’s what I’m working towards! She already has so much neutral control I can’t imagine that + fluid stance cancels 👊
Ngl was tempted to keep this one for myself, but F2 > Unsoku > Raido Hitsumetsi (Her 2 break throw). You can do the motion input as you transition into Unsoku, and with the mid threats of F2,3 or Unsoku > 4.
Oh thank god
This is golden my Guy, I am now a fan. Honestly might transition from Jack-8 to reina. just because your guides are so well detailed and super helpful.
Quick question though, Do you think it is worth it for the PEWGF, When you fished out a counter hit on HW+1? saw it in twitter and think it is cool that Reina has her own PEWGF tech
Much appreciated! The PEWGF is sick but unfortunately not worth it, you can’t save the combo if you mess up like Kaz in T7, so you’re giving up heaps of dmg if you miss 😭
I would love to watch ranked matches of yours
I love this time to learn so i can get out of red ranks and into mighty ruler
After knockdowns I don’t see people use cd3 meaty. It launches with cd3, wr 3, df1 combo. Also, no one is using her 1+4 duck. It’s pretty good
Not super stance related but I've recently had success interrupting dragunov pressure with uf+1. It's a 13f CH launcher in heat, since you get HW 2 heat dash, can kind of think of it like a steve b1. Just don't whiff and respect the -9 on block. Also, CH HW 1 is also a heat dash launcher with sentai 1+2 -> HW 2f, sometimes I delay my HW mixup to CH fish with it.
I think that hellsweep > stance > 1,3 is a better sidestep check than HEA 1 > ZEN hit confirm 3 as the second one is launch punishable on blocking the HEA 1
I'm new to Tekken and fighting games in general, I didn't bother to learn combos so I can focus in understand the game before putting time to learn when to strike, when to defend, spacing and things like that. Got to Shinryu this way, maybe It's useful to someone that at least in europe 1, people doesn´t recognize at all the range of Lighting Splits Kick and where does the hit strikes, so if you set up people to duck you probably will land it and It's useful if the enemy react slow because It goes over lots of rage art if they saw It comming kinda late, Lighting Wheel is a similar situation but don't go over rage arts, instead people tend to think you whiff and you hit them xD It's kinda funny if you take some distance and attack out of their range It works pretty well. But right now I'm at the point of finally learning a combo because at this point people know how to counter this slow attacks 😵so I think I will implement this moves, thanks! Great work :^)
bro love the whole unsoku looping idea. will also try it out.
One thing I'm not sure about, and I wonder if guides exist, is the "waivu" strategy you mentioned. people wavedashing in over and over again. seems like it shouldn't be good, but i only see high-level people doing this. i haven't even run into it in my matches much (garyu reina, mighty ruler yoshi here). Could you explain that stuff?
Wavuwavu counters sidestep/sidewalk and puts increased pressure on a guarding opponent. People don’t sidestep or respect CD mixups as much in lower ranks so it’s not a good strategy 👍
Wb her 3,4,, when u crouch and release down arrow u get the knee-midd n kick- high would u do video for set ups , as i wrote am learning her so i am doing 1,2,3 and 4,, if they press jab ama go for fd4,, while crouching kind of these set ups,, plus with eletrics. Would u make video of her set ups bro?
Hey, thanks for you work as always.
I feel like playing around ff2 Sentai mixup is really lame and makes the character kinda toxic. + That's really not a good strategy to get good at the game. Ff2 by itself is great, and ff2 sentai 3 is great for whiff punish
Let’s go more Mishima lessons
Church of Reina, we here
can you do a videao about the garanteed hits of reina?
Thanks for your time and bvideos they are the besto to learn about reina.
There’s a section in my Reina combo video on guaranteed hits 👍👊
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I'd like to ask what's the input to transition to unsuko from wind god step? Looks like you're doing unsuko df and then immediately back to unsuko but I can't see from the command list how to do it.
B3>DF>B3 etc 👍
@@MishimaComplex Hmm I must be inputting the second b3 too fast then. When I was inputting the b3 wasnt coming out, was probably trying to do it from the stance.
@@MasterMetallica1 yeah I often get WS3, not sure the exact frames but it feels like there needs to be a tiny gap in between B and B3, let me know how you go! 👊
wow this is the hardest character i've seen
Please do have anything in his to beat Xiaoyu and her BS? That little demon has been a pain to deal with for me lol
as a yoshi main all i do is "reina spinning?...FLASHHH!!" 😂 but the problem is that reina powercrush
Wait you dont like sen 1+2 in neutral? I use it all the time in Heat due to the heat autoparry - its basically a free HW mixup if they do the best thing they can which is not interact
Yeah to be fair I use it in heat sometimes, but against better players they’ll hop kick every time, which you can’t parry even in heat 👍
Please make video on antivictor he literally pissed me off... My reina mains still loses to his pissing off mix ups 😢😢
I didn’t know b1 string led into sentai learn sum new everyday
Great guide ! but, man, you completly omitted to talk about the sidestep option. All her sentai mid are steppable, so there is another layer that makes Reina mixup incredibly risky.
Yeah good point! Opponent needs to sidestep in different directions to avoid different mids, was a little complicated so I didn’t include it 😊
Yoshimitsu flash ?
Reddit makes it seem like you can just ff2~f~3 all the way to God of Destruction
Im back
🫦 queen
players have just gotten more cocky and dont wanna deal with our mix so they just press buttons now lol at least its good to know that most of these i have have already been doing due to watching ulsan
I fought a nina who kept dickjabbing me, and i did not know how to deal with it. I wish I had seen this video sooner.
Bro but what if my opponent watches these videos too. So they counter my countering of their counter, you should privately send these videos to reina mains :(
Hahah that’s where the real Tekken begins 😈
Bruh did he just enlarge reina’s head