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The Rise, Fall & Rise Again of PIERCE THE VEIL
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The rise, fall & rise again of Pierce The Veil! I talk about Vic Fuentes, Mike Fuentes, "A Flair For The Dramatic", "Selfish Machines", "Collide With The Sky" & "Misadventures", Mike Fuentes departure, "King For A Day" on TikTok (the Pierce The Veil TikTok song) "Jaws Of Life" and more in this history of Pierce The Veil.
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0:00 Intro
3:14 Early years, "A Flair For The Dramatic" & "Selfish Machines"
7:13 "Collide With The Sky" & "Misadventures"
11:35 Mike Fuentes departure
14:06 "King For A Day" on TikTok & "Jaws Of Life"
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Can you do a video on skindred
A flair for the dramatic is a debut masterpiece
yes walking to school in the dark, v emotional
FAXX!! And it's their best album by far. Wish they go back and make an album in that style again.
Fr
Just listened to it today, after a few months of listening to Machines and Collide With the Sky
when i'd just discovered them, i couldn't believe that it was their *debut*. amazing album.
Honestly, PTV is one of the most versatile bands in the post hardcore scene. Vic is an absolute wonder of a songwriter, and honestly just a sweet human being to hang out with. I think his genuine personality really helps make their songs resonate with me, personally.
so true! my fave frontman from that scene
Agreed!!
he is the love of my life
I’ve noticed a bit of an age gap in those who dislike jaws of life vs those who are enjoying it. for those of us closer in age to the band, I think it may be more relatable and nostalgic in its sound. I do think it will grow on people, just as misadventures did.
Ironically, Im 15, and just started listening to PTV in 2022. My opinion on Jaws of Life? Its…okay. I much prefer Collide With The Sky, and Selfish Machines, and just recently; A Flair for the Dramatic
@@ISimp4FictionalAndEmoMen all I gotta say to ya is give it a chance! It’s alright to not like it and I hope you stay with ptv for years to come💜
I hope your right
I just turned 20 and started listening to PTV when I was 10 and honestly, the jaws of life became my favorite album of all time. Instant masterpiece.
Am 26, I'm a huge PTV fan, I didnt like it at first. It's not a good PTV album but it is a really good album if that makes sense. It's definitely their weakest album but it doesnt it's bad. Personally I wanted more songs like Pass the Nirvana, but we got a lot of soft songs. And those soft songs are really really good.
Some of the best songs are Resilience, Jaws of Life and Damn the Man.
I just missed so much from the new album. I missed the epic intro into the first song. I miss the Mexicore feelings. It had none of that in their newest album. Like I said, it's a bad PTV album but it's still a really good album.
God I’ve loved PTV for so long. I remember finally seeing them in concert with SWS in 2014 and the crowd was INSANE. I still listen to all of their albums on repeat because they never get old. Absolutely one of my all time favorite bands.
On of the only bands/artists that I love almost every single song and and every album...the second is hail the sun :)
Collide with the Sky is a certifiable masterpiece.
I saw them in 2014 too!!! PA show they KILLED IT 🔥🙌
@@redweezy1769 heavy agree. All their albums are no skips for me and I’ve listened to them so many times I’ve even memorized the order of everything.
I'm so jealous!! I was DYING to see them in Vancouver but I was only 15/16 at the time and my mom didn't let me since non of my friends would want to go with me :(
A big thing to also highlight is how meaningful they were (and still are) to the Mexican community within the scene industry. We never saw bands that look like us, and they were always so proud of their culture #mexicore
It’s not that deep
@@user-xs4rm1ti8f Ok
I remember the first time I saw Jaime wearing a mexico jersey I was so confused! Until I learned that they’re Mexican 🤯mind blown to this day haha
What's your ig though 😊
@@noneofyourbusiness1114 down bad my guy
I gotta say that the song Gold Medal Ribbon off Misadventures is one of PTV's most underrated songs and is also my favorite. I just never hear anybody bring it up.
I'm gonna agree with you there. one of the best ptv songs!
that whole album is underrated
I AGREE! Its so good
totally agree I fucking love this song! And it's only fitting that Gold Medal Ribbon is also my favorite ice cream flavor from Baskin Robbins.
ME TOO!! Its such a gorgeous song.
SO PROUD of Loniel Robinson for drumming for Pierce the Veil, he's such a phenomenal drummer + a great human being! we were coworkers + friends many years back, amazing to see how far he's come. I actually have some (poor quality) old videos of him competing in 2008 Guitar Center drum off competitions uploaded to my channel lol. I can't wait to hear what PTV continues to do in the future, glad they came back.
Missing letlive so much.
Jaws of life is so good, in my opinion this type of style change just shows how versatile a band can be.
kinda hope they follow SWS and release a heavier album next
Tbh i never got into PTV but just heard Jaws of Life and absolutely love it.
@@tyler-rh7fl let’s hope so 🤠 everyone would like that
yes
THEY GREW UP WHAT IS THERE TO NOT LIKE?
sure, there’s less screaming and everything but the messages, the emotions are delivered. I enjoy their new album very much.
I like it too! I like how different it is now and how it’s not just all break up songs 24/7 and how there nice and sweet songs.
Honestly tired of these comments but too tired to explain why this comment annoys me, but it wouldn't matter since the majority of the people who comment these are closed minded and trash talk/shift the point to people who have opposing opinions on it
@@pablopadilla3210 I’m sorry if you’re upset about my opinion but i don’t get which part of my comment that annoyed you or closed minded as you concluded. Don’t give up on me tell me why I shouldn’t enjoy their new stuffs. Death of an executioner is fun
@@Just_niaxx couldn’t agree more. Damn the man got me.
@@raymephisto9497 no one told you not to like the new album. saying the band "grew up" completely alienates the fanbase who came for post hard core music that they established themselves in making. if u like PHC but your fav PHC band suddenly went mellow grunge pop, u have a valid reason to criticize. artists are allowed to change direction for sure, but fans are not required to follow that direction and i dont think they should be implied to still be young and edgy when people of all ages enjoy all kinds of genres.
dont get me wrong i like the album too, but i dont think they "grew up" just because we did. the new album's lyrics still come off as corny, dramatic teenage-y, if my only criticism being some songs are simple and repetitive and a bit generic. a big trade off over the exiting, unique and iconic sound they once had
I think that first album sounded so good because most of these guys were in the band ‘before today’ together and even their stuff was well produced imo
They were still signed to Equal Visions at that point, so they did have some label money not that it promises quality.
don’t forget isles & glaciers too!!
a lot of their fans grew up listening to them in MIDDLE school, but the majority of the people who supported them commercial-wise were high schoolers and so on, so i think a lot of their older music becoming relevant again was mainly due to a bunch of people in their 20s now revisiting their past music (like how mcr toured again which gave their now mainly 20s fanbase a chance to see them live) personally i love jaws of life mainly due to the fact that i understand that they're way older now, as people they've experienced more and grown more and even are knee deep in families. a lot of people like to stick with what they know so they tend to reject any changes to something they once held dear to themselves. it's def mixed reviews but regardless their fans will support them because of what they stand for and what they've done for their fans throughout the years, regardless of their age
I've loved Peirce The Veil since I was a kid. I'm really glad they came back and they're still extremely talented. I can still hear their older style that I loved so much when I was a kid in their new music. Love it. 🤟🤟🤟
I’ve been listening to Pierce the Veil since 2011-2012 and I love all their albums. People aren’t liking the new album because they expected them to make it the same as the others. I personally love and support them no matter how different their sound changed over the years. I hope they stick around for longer because I have yet to see them live and hope I can soon. ❤
I've been a fan of PTV since Selfish Machines came out (which is saying something, considering the scene was never huge in Brazil, we never had Warped Tours), and I'm seeing them live for the first time in a couple weeks.
I'm honestly really stoked!
They put on a great show!
so happy for you! they’re amazing live, i hope you have a lot of fun!
@@awkwardmexicanbean that's so sweet, thank you ❤
their live shows are LIFECHANGING, i hope you have so much fun!
@@gabriel-pavao I saw them this week here in Colombia, the show was amazing!
Love that you're covering PTV. Been enjoying their music for a long time. 🙂
PTV will always be number 1 for me. Can’t stop listening to their new album
Same!! Personally i never loved almost all the songs of a band, it was always a few so i didnt consider myself a "real fan". But with ptv im loving every song and i can proudly say theyre my favorite band ever and that im a real fan (lmao)
As a 31 year old elder emo, watching this band come back into relevance out of nowhere has been fun. Yeah Boy and Doll Face will always be my favorite.
Floral and Fading is one of the catchiest songs I've ever heard, and stays in my top 10 songs year after year.
"I want devil horns."
Absolutely love Pierce The Veil. By far my favorite album is Selfish Machines; 10/10 no skips.
Ladies and Gentlemen I introduce the Selfsish Machines 👌
Flair for the Dramatic and Selfish Machines are such amazing albums. Absolute Bangers for the ages.
This video was beautifully done. I discovered pierce the veil in 2013 and it has been my favorite band ever since. When TJOL came out, I was slightly disappointed because I yearned for their album to be reminiscent of selfish machines or collide with the sky, but overall very excited. After listening to it for a few weeks, I've already started loving it more. With each listen I find something small that really gives that "experimental/pierce the veil" vibe to each song, no matter how stylistically different it may be to their old music. I'm honestly impressed with them for always inserting that flair that defines them in different ways in each album, and I'll always be a fan.
This is why I love them, they were unique. At that time so many bands really sounded the same and them sticking out is what brought them success.
Stoked to watch this. Been a fan since their first album and my buddy showed me the "early times" stuff. They're always doing amazing music.
I never listened to these guys before I had Jaws of Life come on randomly in a playlist a few weeks ago - Their new album is definitely catchy and the production on it is insanely good, I'm surprised at how much I've been relistening to it.
If you enjoy their newer music, you probably won't like their older songs, but you should definitely give their older albums a try as well.
I've been a PTV fan for about a decade now and "The Jaws of Life" is an amazing album, one of their best. Polished, elevated, with so many elements from their previous work embedded into each song and I'm in love ❤. Can't wait to see them in June!!!
PTV is one of the bands I've kept up with after my emo phase. I adore their work, even the songs I'm not the biggest fan of. I love PTV, and I think there's so much more for them to do with their music careers. ☺️
I have loved Pierce the veil as long as I can remember, and I was kinda disappointed at first with the new album. When I dropped my expectations and actually listened to it, I loved it. PTV is, has been, and always will be my favorite band and will hold a special place in my heart.
I watched this when it came out. I had never heard the band before but I’m a fan of the channel. Fast fwd to my Spotify wrapped; Pierce The Veil is my most listened to band of the year.
Appreciate you!
I remember in high school begging my mom to let me go to warped tour to see PTV. I thought misadventures was the last and I lost my chance to ever see them live. But now I get to live my teenage dream of seeing them live
I had been a very casual fan for many years but I just recently really got into them and now they are one of my favorite bands!
As time goes on, selfish machines becomes my top ptv album over colide with the sky
For me, their first 3 are all equally as perfect for me
My number 2 band of all time, listening since I was 16, finally got to see them live at the age of 25 this year. Absolutely exceeded expectations. 🔥
The new album is different yes, but fantastic in its own way.😎
I love this timeline, new MCR, FOB, PTV, all the bands I loved as a youth but was never able to see. It’s like we’re getting a second chance. I’m also excited to see what the next generation of Emo music will look like 🖤
I think they might have been accessible in the idea that they had clean vocals, with little screaming, but that might have been about it. For me they are definitely an inspiration musically, some of the most fun drum parts I've learned were theirs.
Agreed their drums are really the only thing that REALLY stands out to me. Probably just because I'm a drummer tho so that's what I listen for.
Seriously one of the few bands from that scene who have yet to release a bad album. I adore them. So glad I got to grow up with them
I'm seeing them on March 30th in Mexico and I'm losing my mind about it. They've been my favorite band since Selfish came out and I absolutely love them. I'm really happy for them and their amazing comeback ❤
Am I the only one who thinks Vic looks like a baby Dave Grohl?
Yes, but now that you say it, I can see it too
Yes.
Can’t unsee it now 😂😂😂
mexican dave grohl
NO, I see it too.
I've loved PTV since I was 11 years old, and they've been my favourite band since I was 13. I'm 21 now. Jaime is literally the reason i started playing bass. I saw them for the first time in 2016, and I was SO overcome with emotion, i couldn't stop crying. I was supposed to see them on the ATL tour but since they pulled out, i didn't see them again before their hiatus.
When they came back last year, I literally couldn't stop freaking out. Pass The Nirvana was a PERFECT comeback single! I saw them in December and literally went fucking mental. It was the best show of my life. I've bought tickets to 3 shows of their UK tour for next year. They've helped me so much during different times of my life, i will always love them.
As a fan who came a bit after their debut (2011), I really love Jaws of Life. It may be a bit cliche to say it sounds like a more mature Pierce the Veil but it really does. I see PTV as true artists with artistic hands in everything they make. Misadventures is an amazing album but you can tell there was ALOT of pressure on them to make another collide with the sky so they might’ve been apprehensive to be experimental and I totally understand that as an artist. Jaws of Life feels like PTV not being afraid to be experimental again and having fun making music together again after a long period. I am incredibly proud of them and I hope the old and new fans that aren’t as big of fans of Jaws of Life can give it another chance. I feel its a beautiful album that PTV have felt comfortable enough to dip their artistic toes into again! Or maybe not idk do whatever you want!!
Oh man! A Flair for the Dramatic came out when I was in high school and I cannot tell you how many times I listened to that album, and the next 2 after! Awesome band! Glad they're seeing some success now.
Great video, Finn!
A flair for the dramatic is still my favorite
So much nostalgia for this band. Glad you're talking about them because for my generation (born in 99) PTV was huge.
The tik tok of the girl gave me goosebumps. Like, these kids are dressing and listening to the same music we did 10 plus years ago when it was a new and cool thing. Crazy...
Every song ptv have ever written is a certified banger 😍 it’s been over half my life now and still a huge fan. Thanks for talking about them in such a positive way!
I’m in love with their new album. I’ve started listening to their older albums as I only know a few of their biggest songs and I’m not disappointed at all. Honestly, some of the music is like heart music. Everything I can’t say expressed in veiled lyricism
im so glad my mom and sister introduced me to their music at such a young age. ive been listening to them for around 8-10 years. i may not have liked them too much in the beginning, but theyve been my favorite band ever for around 5-6 years now :)
Ni siquiera sabía que sus primeros álbumes habían tenido tanto éxito, yo simplemente los escuchaba porque me parecían muy buenos jashja. Cuando salió pass the nirvana y emergency contact no podía creer que habían vuelto, fui a twitter a ver qué pasaba y me enteré que iban a sacar otro álbum. Al principio no tuve muchas expectativas pq vi que un miembro se había retirado(y no sabía por qué) pero habiendo escuchado pass the nirvana y emergency contact le di una oportunidad al álbum y definitivamente no me decepcionaron, the jaws of life se ha vuelto uno de mis álbumes favoritos junto a Selfish Machines.
I saw PTV at Warped Tour when I was still in high school and they were absolutely crushing it. I’m glad to see them back and getting the recognition they deserve. Great video as always, Finn!
The Jaws of Life is a really good album. I wasn't a massive fan of Pass the Nirvvana when it dropped, but it's solid. The rest of the album is really good and has diverse range in styles. It's honestly one of my favorite albums of the last couple years.
I actually think that Misadventures was more progressive than you gave it credit for. That huge 80s aesthetic revival that included the whole vaporwave trend that's been going on, well they were early to that party. Bedless, Gold Medal Ribbon are really good examples of that. Floral and Fading was the most daring song that they done at the time. A post-Hardcore version of a 50s-60s slow dancer. Not to mention some of their best, poppiest choruses. Misadventures was an excellent cap to one of the best 4 album runs any band has ever had.
So true!
Completely agree! Nothing could ever top Selfish Machines for me, but Misadventures is the album that's come the closest. It's such a good, cohesive album!
Hold on til may is still one of my top 10 favorite songs ever. Plus it introduced me to Lindsey Stamey... which led me to Vertigo and Oh no! Fiasco.... which are amazing
I’m a teenager and Pierce The Veil is my all time favorite band, I start listening to them in 2021 when I was going through a lot of stuff and their songs helped me get through it and then I saw Pierce The Veil in May and they were amazing I even got a like and comment from them I love Pierce The Veil so much and I cried so much during Hold On Till May it felt like they were talking to me and I knew I’d be okay. 🖤
I will always love PTV. I first saw them live in 2014, then 2022, and now I’m seeing them again for their tour with The Used. This was a great vid!
I got into ptv last year coincidentally around the same time it blew up as tiktok (i had deleted tiktok at that point). I got into them bc id heard of them and a couple of their songs had come up on spotify and i liked what i heard. I literally adore them so much their music just feels so unique??? I just love them especially a flair for the dramatic. My fav album ever
U should consider doing a video about *Chimaira* , Im sure a lot of your viewers have a lot more nostalgic love for them and Id personally love to see a video about them from you
Losing my mind because I discovered PTV 10 years ago when I was 12 and now 12 year olds are still discovering them - it’s wild! They’re my favorite band of all time, and I’m glad for their longevity.
idk about yall but I’ve been with PTV since the cover days and the Mega Band.
I didn’t get to see them until I was 15 in San Jose. Then they just kept coming ! Finally met them at the world tour SF Meet n greet to show them my ptv tattoos. Those guys are down to earth and everything you’d expect.
5 albums in and I still love them.
I discovered Ptv only last year and i was sad that there was no new album for so many years. But then one day i started seeing trends about ptv and boom the jaws of life dropped, ive been listening to it ever since and im hoping everyone will grow to like it. (Also im loving the Karma police cover)
OMG 😭 Pierce has been my favorite band since I was 11 years old...I'm twenty fucking almost three now and it's been still the band that I listen to all their songs and love all of them, there isnt one that I don't like. Lol Vic, Jaime, and Tony are amazing, and I'm happy to have grown up listening to them. 🤘🏼
I was shocked when I heard how good the drums and guitar were on PtV, Sleeping with Sirens, and Escape the Fate. I knew a song or two b/c I had friends that listened to these groups, but when I really dove into those catalogues I was blown away. Much more than just 'forgettable' scene bands.
Good video Finn! Hope you and the family are doing well.
I love the new album and I’m an OG fan. I’m seeing them live with The Used this summer! I’m beyond excited!
Pierce the veil is one of the only bands i still listen to from my emo phase. It's just good music.
One hundred sleepless nights was always a sleeper but it's my favorite song by them and one of my favs of all time
Their first album was essentially their second album. They were a band called before today and then pierce the veil. Their album under before today was also very good, less polished and more on the fast paced riffy side.
I remember seeing vic play the intro live at soma for the first time. Side stage. Epic.
The isles and glaciers project was amazing
Their new album is absolute 🔥 and I’ve been enjoying their older stuff too. I’m coming late to the game honestly but I’m happy that I’m here now!
PTV's debut album is still to this day my favourite album from that specific genre of screamo post-hardcore bands. I don't even listen to a whole lot of emo stuff anymore, it just holds up so well after all these years. Every single song is a banger. Fucken love a Flair for the Dramatic
Every time I've listened to Jaws of Life I've liked it more. I find something new to love with each listen. That has always been one of my favorite things about PTV; I've been listening to them for 14 years and I can still turn on A Flair for the Dramatic and find something I hadn't noticed before. Jaws of Life may not be for everyone, but personally, I feel like there was a pretty clear trajectory with their sound leading to this album. It's more grungy than you might expect, but several songs sound like "old" PTV if you give them a close listen.
I’ve been a fan since like 2019 and yes I haven’t been a fan for as long as others but I fell in love with them instantly. I love every single album and selfish machines being my favorite. It’s great to see them blow up in 2022. Their comeback was not disappointing. Ive been seeing many people shit on the new album and it HURTS. THE JAWS OF LIFE IS INCREDIBLE LIKE ALL OF THEIR OTHERS!
The crowd for those guys at WWWY fest was absolutely insane. I had a hard time understanding because I never really listened to them back in the day. But the crowd was a genuine mix of ages it was crazy to see
40 yo dude here. I love the old stuff, and the Jaws of Life slaps. Got the same feeling watching the bands at When We Were Young as I did at all of the warped tours I went to years ago. I feel like emo/scene/punk rock music is making a comeback, and I'm 100% here for it!
I remember having “yeah boy and doll face” on my MySpace player lmao. I saw them at warped in 2008 and there was such a small crowd. It’s been awesome to see them play through the years and see the crowds (and them) grow through the years!
I didnt even realize they were gone for so long because I was too busy enjoying everything theyve ever out out, including Before Today and Early Times
Honestly being an OG fan since 2011, and listening to their new album "Emergency contact" is one of my most favorite tracks of everything they have ever put out.
Also on a personal level my gf was the biggest PTV fan and she had passed away beginning of 2022, and was never able to hear their new album and she was always so accepted of them wether they changed their style or whatever she'd support them to the end of the earth.
I just know "emergency contact" would indeed make her ball her eyes out and she would be madly in love with it.
Makes me sad she never got to hear it.
that clip at the end with the toddlers singing along warms my heart. there is hope for the next generation
PTV is my favorite band and has been inspiring me as a musician and as a person since i was likeee 12. seeing them back on top again makes me so happy y’all
As an elder emo who loved them in highschool , idk how I completely missed that they released a new album
New album slaps. Every side project/collab was great.
I was genuinely surprised at how hard this new album is. To me it’s so fire. I somehow missed listening to Misadventures back when it dropped. But I listen to Jaws of Life all the way through, it’s heat.
Awhile back you asked who your next video should be about and I just threw Pierce The Veil in there thinking it would never happen and then you had the voting and of course I voted for them also thinking the vote audience isn’t going to want this but viola there it is and I loved it and I also am in love with the new album. Yeah it’s not heavy I get it but damn the songs are good. Thank you Finn! You are the only You Tuber giving these guys their due, and believe me when I say way overdue. You’re awesome Finn!!!
Im 13 and was about 2 when collide with the sky came out. I honestly had never heard of them before when I got my first phone. I heard of them through my sister, listening to king for a day. I discovered more of their music and realized their message. Its so beautiful. Theyve honestly helped me as a person so much. Struggling with s/h and mental and body issues, i never knew what music could do to someone until them. They deserve every good thing that comes to them. And fun fact, i share a birthday w vic and tjof came out on our birthday.
The Jaws of Life is everything to me. It kinda feels like Im listening to a late 90s record. This is me listening to the music overall.
10 years ago my kids loved to sing "what's so wrong about picking up the pieces"
There was never a fall for me. Been jamming to these guys since I was in my early 20s. I'm now in my mid 30s
I was never a fan of PTV when they got popular when i was in school but i gotta say Emergency Contact is genuinely one of the best songs ive ever heard
A flair for the dramatic is so great, still listen to it eventually
One of my all time favorite bands. Glad these guys are still kicking ass!
I think the album has more quit songs that I would like it to have but there are very good ones! Im seeing them live here in Brazil in 3 weeks and couldnt be more excited!
Was never a huge Peirce the Veil fan. Had no idea that happened. Glad they're back.
I love the new album. Since the interview with Vic, I've had the most open mind to it. I was wishy washy at first and then dove in head first.
Great video. Evidence for that is that I sit through a video about a band I’ve never listened to or cared about up until 15 mins ago. Keep it up sir!
I listen to Coheed and Chidos ( back then). there was only enough brain space I had for vocals that high
love these types of videos that you do 💕 your passion certainly comes through
I got into PTV around 2017 and I just love seeing where they are right now, it makes my little emo heart feel so proud honestly.
Uncle Kael lol. I understood that one. Undefeated, undisputed, biggest build east of West Linn.
We needed more of Pierce The Veil and the newest hit album to building a different generation of a legendary metal band. I am just subscribed to your channel 💯🔔👍
PTV is such a cool band. I never get sick of hearing any of there songs, & if there’s a song I think I don’t like, by the 5th listen I become obsessed w/ it 😂
I never really gave Pierce the Veil the time of day when they first came out. Wasn't my scene. Hearing how you describe their old albums does make me want to check them out. Who knows. Might put on a PTV album when I go to the supermarket later today.
I heard king for a day in middle school and have been following pierce the veil since. One of the dopest bands hands down.
I learned about PTV when I was 15 through a girl I was trying to date. I fell in love with the band instantly and I would say they were my favorite band and led me to my second favorite a day to remember. I’m 27 now and when jaws of life released I listened to that album on a loop for 3 days I feel it’s certainly some of their best work.
I’ve loved ptv for so long, honestly one of my favourite bands of all time! It’s good to hear they’re getting more fans but I just hope they continue with their original sound and keep making albums
I am so glad the PTV is back and seemingly here to stay. I love seeing the younger generation obsessing over them and embracing their music the way they are. I've had some hilarious interactions on TikTok, though, because of all of this. One teenager commented on a video I made using a PTV audio and told me I was "too old" for listening to them or posting about them. I kindly said that the band had been of my generation - and was popular again. They said, "If you were an adult when this song came out this is not your music - it's our music." This kid wasn't even old enough to have been born when PTV started and dropped King for a Day. I just moved on because I'm not going to argue with children online - but it genuinely cracked me up. Elder emos are ALSO here to stay. Lmao.
They just did a couple of free acoustic shows, luckily I got to see them, and this was just last week, there were people lined around the venue in both directions but, only 160 people were let in. We barely made it! Great show!