How Good Is Connor Bedard Actually?
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- čas přidán 18. 02. 2023
- Here's a look at the impressive young career of Connor Bedard and how he is becoming the NHL's next generational talent.
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It's insane that the absolute WORST he could do in the NHL is "not quite the best player in history"
If Connor plays two more years with the world jr team ,he’ll break 100 points total and this would be a record in hockey that will never be broken.
This kid is the real deal ❤
he maybe has another year at the juniors and even that’s a bit of a long shot.
Under no circumstances do I see Chicago releasing him to play another world junior tournament. The risk of injury is too great, the insurance premiums too steep and he will be too busy leading the team in scoring and driving their climb in the standings. This guy is gonna be worth a billion dollars to the Hawks over his career they're not gonna take any chances.
I’m so glad that the Blackhawks tanked this season. Welcome to Chicago!
It’s official!
My team was the second worst in the NHL this year but I couldn't be happier cuz the Hockey Gods delivered this kid to them. Go Blackhawks!
"He may only be a Patrick Kane."
*stares at the Cup rings on Patrick Kane's hand*
I'll take it.
Kane is a future Hall of Famer. Nothing wrong with being compared to him
Kane has three Cup rings, but he was barely the best player on an erstwhile stacked Blackhawks team - and not as good as Crosby.
@@broadstreet21 best player on the hawks. And yeah no shit nobody would try to say he’s better than Crosby lol
@@MuhammadZegras Yeah, put him on, say, the Penguins (in place of Crosby) he'd look no different from Taylor Hall with the Oilers.
@@broadstreet21 that’s an insane take
In McDavid's best OHL season he had 44 goals in 47 games. Bedard currently has 53 goals in 44 games. Bedard is more like Ovechkin than a McDavid or Crosby. But he puts up more assists than Ovechkin does. He might be able to score 60+ goals in the NHL, year after year.
I agree in general but comparing McDavid’s jr numbers to Bedard’s is not that simple. Besides the trend shifting to higher scoring over the past 7 years, it’s also always been considerably easier to score in the Wild West. The O is a MUCH tighter checking league.
FWIW I think Western hockey is more exciting to watch.
That also appears to carry into the NHL. The Western conference has a better tempo and the East more grinding. I think it’s in the air. Conservative New York mentality compared to a free wheeling California life style. 😊
yes amoung the under 18 current couch potato culture... hes not even in the 18+ juniors... super over rated and he wont make it. already had a broken wrist once...
was connor doing that in under 18 level? or over?
Bedard said he is more like a passer than shooter..but he just score so much.!
@@cardmansales9376 that broken wrist made him stronger hockey monster
To the Wheeler quote, I don't completely disagree - but he is still very young and his game can develop physically and mentally over time. Also, it's pretty awesome if a player's 'floor' as a prospect is Patrick Kane or Pavel Bure.
There will always be guys like Scott Wheeler who prophesy negativity. Let's allow time to unfold and watch how Bedard continues to develop and blossom. Hopefully he will be as much fun to watch when he plays in the NHL as he already has been in his career thus far.
The fact that Scott Wheeler is comparing him to 3 of the absolute best players in their time periods, future HOF and all 4 can claim a top10 ever spot -- to compare an sub-18 yr old with zero NHL games to those guys is enough to prove Scott Wheeler is wrong or at least jumping the gun. Give the kid a chance to play first before the negativity.
What impresses me about this kid is how quickly and deceptively he gets his shot off. Reminds me of Mike Bossy.
It’s interesting how the most publicized skepticism about him, (he is not a top skater, not a two way player, too small) are all the exact same things thsy said about Gretzky when he was a junior.
blackhawks need this man
W
And they got him.
If the young man's floor is Bure/Kane... Holy shit
If your doubters say you won't be the best player in the world before you ever play an NHL game.... I'd say even they are hedging their bets. Welcome to Chicago! Just be hockey strong and enjoy the ride.
hey, he is selling all the tickets.. it just shows the superstar skill that's all.
my only concern is he is a year younger so hope he has more time to grow up and build up for NHL
In Canada, if your parents don't show up to late night meetings, 7 year olds who enjoy playing with their friends/teammates get cut... every kid has tremendous pressure on them.
Exciting to think about this level of talent but make no mistake- the NHL is the top 1% of the juniors. Big, big difference on that ice. He's still a kid and will mature but it's unreasonable to put him on the same level as McDavid and Crosby. It'll be fun to watch for sure.
Exactly!...You can talk up a player till your blue in the face, and call him a Generational "Talent".....but the important thing is, will he actually end up being a Generational "Player"?? .....only way to know is after they've had at least several years in the NHL....
which connor will win a cup 1st?
Generational talents since 1967 are Orr, Gretzky, Lemieux, Lindros, Crosby, McDavid, Bedard. You could arguably add Ovechkin and Lafleur in there too. That's it though.
I don't think Bedard will belong in that category..He will be a 50 point season scorer kind of player which is still good.
@@marcovoyageur549 wrong. He will be PP monster! He will score 30+ PP points a year alone. He’s got a better shot/release than Ovechkin and a Gretzky like IQ/spatial awareness. Add in he’s got some sweet mitts…the weakest part of his game is his skating. The kid is solid for his size and is no stick man…he’s actually shredded for his age. If this kids skating improves he will be as good if not better than McDavid, Crosby and Ovie
@@marcovoyageur549i think you have total points mixed up with goals. He definitely hit 50 goals after a few years. His rookie year will be close to record breaking. Compare his numbers to all other generational players. He beats them all.
the weakest part of his game is that is not a playmaker like mcdavid crosby gretzky or lemieux but just a goal scorer like mattiews he will never win the hart trophy in the nhl with just goals l saw 6 match of the hawks and l didn t see a playmaker but a goals scorer the assist he has are not really pass but deflect shot from himself or return of the goalie after his shot not really a play made by himself sorry for my english it s not my first language
@@wendellwinters4811
He hasn't played with the big boys yet. Hope he can take a hit because he's going to be a target.
They said the same thing about McDavid and Crosby. Your argument is getting old.
@@davidmccaig6647 I don't know how you took that as an argument. It's a valid concern for any player going into the NHL. I played for 14 years and when you step in with the bigger guys, they "welcome you ". I'm not here to argue, it's just a valid concern so you can take your comment elsewhere. McDavid and Crosby were bigger than Bedard.
@@theguywithone I did not play so I will defer to your experience.
What a dumb argument
Hope he does a boxing camp b4 he plays in the NHL boy gotta learn how to throw a punch 👊
Золотой парнишка😊 2023👍
Damn he's going to look good in Hawks jersey.
Connor.bedard.blackhawks.ok.
Yes. Yes he will.
Yes
Lets be honest here, the Hawks just got a once in a generation player thanks to ping pong balls. He could be a bust of course, and ill eat crow if he is, but look at the most recent cant miss prospects. They pretty much all hit.
Bedard is the real deal and will create a Blackhawks dynasty bigger than Kane and Toews.
The most underrated aspect of him is his fistyness/chippiness/rat esque behavior too. Hes super strong on his feet. This kid is a blend of sid and papi with some marchy sprinkled on the top
I watched him in Lethbridge and he seems very lazy, usually the last guy to get back. Back checking is not part of his game
If you're talking about Marchand, that's not an underrated quality to have. That's just outright a negative characteristic.
So many times they claim the next great one to see them hit the nhl and not do much.
Hes an amazing young talent but let's see how he will be in the nhl first before you give him props for playing kids
Connor Bedard is Gonna Be A Super SUPERSTAR BIG TIME, WATCH & SEE 👀 LL77 👏👏👏👏👏👌
Austin Matthews a generational player lol.
auston*
I agree. Mathews is overrated. Great shot though.
@@mlucyk how is Matthews overrated? he scores like a machine off yr this yr even a off yr he will still get 40 goals so overrated lol. Matthews is the best player we ever had. The maple laughs/maple chokers are 💩not him.
generational shot maybe, but I dont think he is a generational player, more like a franchise player
@@allentam5754 He is talked about like he’s in McDavid’s class but year to year he barely finishes in the top ten in points.
I mean to be honest, the ceiling is the shy for this guy he’s only 17 think about how much is body is still getting Craig and his game was given grow it just get better and better every year. I don’t think that guy that was saying this was really thinking about how young he is.!
First goal in first game he’s him
Ovi only won one Stanley Cup. I doubt he had it in him to win another one! He is after all 37 and he is sniffing retirement!
(he's not retiring until he beats gretzky's all time goals record)
I was hoping Bedard goes to Avalanche which needs a 2C.
Toews might be the better answer.
League is going to fix to have the Blackhawks get this kid.
Nailed it
I don't think that's a fix though, they were like third most likely to win the draft lottery.
Good vid but it's a bit over-edited. Could do without so many "woosh" sound effects and cheesy random stock clips. Otherwise good stuff!
Anaheim McTavish Zegras Terry .. Bedard sheeshhhh in those jerseys forget it Anaheim will need a goalie and a defenceman and it's a wrap
Gibson/Dostal in net and a D core of Drysdale Zellweger Mintyukov Hinds Luneau etc…absolutely disgusting
@Matthew Kabel I don't think of these names as Stanley cup caliber. They need better defense with a little more experience. Goalies.. I mean with a better defense they might be able to pull it off. Just one
defender with experience will boost their chances. Goalie wise Gibson is alright. Not sure if it's what I call franchise goalies .. but I guess he could do a decent job for the next 2-3years ? Dostal is a alright back up not great tho..
Give them Knight or Hart and they're set for a very long time with a excellent young core.
@@bigdaddyafterlifeqc9004 The sheer accrual of quality defensemen for Anaheim in addition to their elite talent up front won't lead to any issues in that regard. At the very worst all of Zellweger Mintyukov and Drysdale are top 4 D and at the best they can each reach top pairing caliber even if none of them emerge as a true #1D. I'm highest on Zellweger in particular. They have more defensive depth like Warren Helleson and LaCombe that they can use as trade chips to acquire more NHL ready talent when their contending window truly starts to come into play. I agree that the Ducks need more experience on the backend as Fowler is the only vet locked up. Gibby was an elite goalie for years when the Duck were competitive and even when they became bad in 2019 he was in the Vezina conversation for a lot of the year. Unfortunately the toll of facing 40-50 shots a night over the past has caught up with him and his value has decreased as a result. When Gibby's on he's lights out though. Dostal has actually been brilliant in the NHL except for one game vs Buffalo that brought down his save percentage 10 points(also worth noting that was his first game back with the big club in almost 2 months). He's so positionally sound and swift with his movements, he definitely has starter potential in my eyes. Anaheim also eyes Clang and Alexander in their system, any of those guys could possibly be a backup goalie should Anaheim find a way to deal Gibson
@@bigdaddyafterlifeqc9004 well most of them haven’t played an NHL game yet so that’s a pretty crazy assessment
Some will be late picks and still be better then first overall
He is a great player no disrespect
Then this first overall doubtful
6 hat tricks!?? 😮😮
Oh and hey, @Scott Wheeler GFYM B!
Scott Wheeler will eat his words. This kid will be motivated by that comment.
NHL is a whole nother beast, doesn't matter what he's done before the NHL
How good is Lane Hutson ?
Thank God all the negative nonsense on CZcams comments doesn't reflect reality. Kid is a stud and is fun to watch. Next fact: anyone who comments along the lines of: "player A is generation but B isn't because that's what I think" knows a damn thing about hockey.
Davidson had better not trade this pick it’s Bedard or bust
I say 4th liner kind of player
Generational Players
Pre Lockout
Howe
Orr
Gretzky
Lemieux
Post Lockout
Ovechkin
Crosby
McDavid
Bedard will probably be great but I wouldn't expect him to be up with those guys. Matthews certainly isnt amongst those guys though.
so im guessing Connor's team was bad he went on and said fine i guess ill do it myself like thanos lol XD
There/s getting to be too many players with no toughness or edge and being paid too much.
He rips it up but I dont think it will transfer to the NHL.
I felt like I was the only one to think this. He’s too reliant on hit shot through defensive legs. In the nhl the gap control is too good to rely on that. He isn’t a mcdavid and I think he will be disappointing compared to his hype. Still going to be a good player just not one go the best imo
@@Mehole29
I agree with you..............too soft.............I think he believes all the hype
People in here talking like Bedard is in his 10th NHL Season. He can shoot ? We shall see, when NHL players are checking him and NHL Goalies are use to world class snipers every single day.
MOG
I think the kids going to be very good but tap the brakes a bit the Goalies are not very good alot of his goals look like they should of been stoped hope he has a good career but is he the next Great Pne !!!!
Bedards gonna be one of the most elite offensive talents the NHLs ever seen! I can see him getting 60 goals 80 assists 140 points in his prime
he wont... hes already had a broken wrist... yes he pulls this crap at the under 18 level of play... hes not even in real juniors... hes in under 18... mark my words he will fail
@@cardmansales9376 someone doesn't know what they're talking about. WHL is a U21 league not U18. He also put up 23 PTS in the U20 WORLD Juniors, more than Crosby and McDavid had Combined!
@@cardmansales9376many top players broke their wrist prior to nhl and have stated it helped them out more than it brought them down. There is no way he will fail.
throwing mathews in there like we wouldnt notice lol
He's more of a goal scorer than McDavid or Crosby. Those two are more likely to pass the puck than shoot it, while Bedard seems more likely to shoot than pass.
McDavid in this recent season proved he can score
@@wewilldie1505 True, but the majority of McDavid's points are still from assists. Maybe Bedard will be capable of scoring 70+ per season?
@@user-yg1dg6xm2g He won't be walking the NHL defensemen like he is in juniors because his speed isn't good enough. He'll also be facing NHL goaltenders. I think 70 is a stretch.
@@davemason4055 McDavid's best OHL season was 44 goals in 47 games. Bedard currently has 53 goals in 44 games.
@@user-yg1dg6xm2g That translates to how well he will do in the NHL? Tavares, Lecavalier, Bossy all outscored Mcdavid in the CHL, don't pretend they're also better than McDavid. Maybe McDavid is pushing himself harder on the stage that actually matters.
Blackhawks fan here, so I may need someone to talk me off the ledge, but…is it me or does he look slow?
Regardless of his talent. He is bound to be a bust in the NHL when the worst team in the league drafts him.
You may be right. Because of his size and speed he'll need a good cast around him and that's unlikely for at least a few years.
If mcdavid can survive Edmonton, bedard can thrive in Anaheim
There is other not him Joe Murphy
Gretzky didn’t have the best skill level in the league….he was just smarter than anyone else ever was
Geeeeeez let the guy play his first NHL game before putting him the Hall of Fame. You have to be stainless steel tough to play in the NHL let alone excel. This comment section reminds me of a ridiculous conversation I had during the Olympics. A friend told me he was certain the US Women's Olympic Hockey Team could beat the last place NHL Team. I howled in laughter. Howled. An NHL Team would beat the US Women's Olympic Team 50 to Zero & the gals would be lucky if they touched the puck let alone get a shot on net.
I mean Matthews is an elite player but not Generational
Mcdavid and Matthew's are NO WHERE close to the hype of the ovi/crosby/malkin/towes era. Y'all were still in diapers and have NO IDEA how close it was to being no nhl,and those players single handledly saved hockey. U don't remember how big of a deal the crosby concussion was because he was THAT important to the league if they were EVER gonna have the NHL we know today....when ESPN straight up REFUSED to show highlights,when watching hockey in ur area it was usually on some 3rd rate cable network...
When parents have the money,becoming a pro is possible
What happens if Bedard has his talent wasted like Tavares
He'd be a faaaaar 2nd if he was in Lindos's draft
No, because Quebec would select him rather than deal with the Lindros bulls***.
Lol no chance
Washington
Chicago.ok.
So he says McDavid is on the mount Rushmore because of his speed (absolutely no disrespect to him. I just think that Bedard is the only player in the foreseeable future who can pass him) but Bedard isn't even though he has one of, if not the best shot in the history of the game?
Tell that to Wheeler who says his shot isn't like Ovechkin's. If anything, it MIGHT be better. And having a lower centre of gravity than McDavid, it won't be hard for him to be faster. It's his two-way ability that has a question mark - his limited size detracts his two-way play. But then again, if Cale Makar can be a force on defense, why not Bedard?
Bedard will only pass him when age slow McDavid down. McDavid's speed is the killer and Bedard, while very skilled, has average speed.
@@davemason4055 yeah but he has a much better shot than McDavid and Crosbys edges, and he is a great playmaker
@@lukasbrand1848 that's the same shit they said about Lafrenier or whatever his name is. Lets see how his play translates at the NHL level first.
@@broadstreet21 According to the quote, Wheeler was talking about the combination of power and a good shot. And because of the size of Bedard, he can't probably play this power forward role. But in my opinion, he will be better than Ovechkin overall cause he has many other tools in his bag. At the end of the day, it all comes down to the classic "he's too small for the NHL" which is often not true.
sounds like scott wheeler is a hater! :P
Meh..
Only psychopathic hockey cyborgs smile with only half their mouth.
I am a long time coach. Bedard is smallish. McDavid is filling out at 6' 1 195 pounds and just entering his prime. One other HUGE difference. McDavid is right handed and shoots Lefty. Bedard is right handed and shoots righty. This will forever make Bedard a little slower, not as balanced on his skates and never be the Sniper that McDavid is. Never. Strong hand on top of stick is the optimum & preferred.
Almost all the best shooters have been right handed right shots. Brett Hull, Ovechkin, Stamkos, Kovalchuk, Laine. Bedard has a better shot at 17 than McDavid does at 26.
@@michaelshields6326 Thank you for proving my point. Ovechkin.....Hull.....and many other right hand shooters are actually left handed.
Do your homework young man.
Strong hand on top of stick is the hockey Bible.
@@matt75hooper Ovechkin is an odd one actually. Writes with his right hand. Throws a ball with his left hand. Bats and shoots right handed. So he's more ambidextrous. I was wrong about Hull. However, of the top 25 goal scorers in NHL history, 15 are right handed shots. Hull and Kurri are the only ones who are naturally left handed. So 13 out of the top 25 goal scorers in history are right handed and right shooting. So do your homework bud. There is no right or wrong way, just whatever you feel is most natural is how you play.
@@michaelshields6326 I was hoping I wouldnt have to school you into submission. I am an expert in this arena with 50+ years of Hockey experience. Ambidextrous players actually have a dominant side- sometimes slight, sometimes very dominant. That side is their lefty side. Do you play ? Grab your stick and slow motion take a mocked slapshot, wrist shot, snap shot and then a backhander. You will note - strong hand on top players will be perfectly balanced on their STRONG SIDE leg performing these shots. Weak hand on top will also be balanced on their weaker leg. Poke Checks. I assume you are right handed playing with a righty stick. When you poke check & sweep check you use your weak hand to perform these tasks. I could go on for hours but take this test & be honest : How do you hold : A shovel ? A broom ? A power washer ? I pitch fork ? A Fishing Gaff ? A rake ? A rifle ? A pool stick ? These and 100 others- you hold them with your strong hand on top. Then why would you hold your Hockey Stick backwards ? Considering the dexterous skills needed to play elite hockey ? Can it be overcome ? Yes. Of course. But it requires 5x the effort and that player will never attain the heights they would have if they played strong hand on top. Bobby Hull & son Brett Hull. One tiny example. Bobby Hull was right handed shot Lefty. Brett is left handed shoots Righty. Recently working with the Bruins scouts I used a few tiny examples : All the right hand shots in the Bruins all time assist leader list- are all left handed. Cashman...Middleton..O'Reilly...Neely..Oates..etc etc etc. As are the newer Bruin stars, David Pastrnak & Bergeron. Remember the fearsome right hand shooter Shawn Thornton & Chris Nilan ? Left handed. Your assertion about the top 25 scoring leaders does not take in to consideration Ambidextrous players who actually ( for argument sake) Left handed. No doubt a few are. Years & years ago at a Skinner Camp- someone challenged me on Ovechkin. I accepted the bet on merely seeing him do drills. He is left hand dominant. I won the bet. Have you not asked yourself- ever ? Why most of the players in the NHL are lefty shooters ? Because they are right handed. The greatest hockey line ever assembled- Red Army's Red Line. All 5 left hand shooters.
@@matt75hooper You're not schooling anyone into submission. The numbers speak for themselves.None of the players on that list are ambidextrous, a large percentage of the top goal scorers are right handed right shots. People play whatever way is comfortable. I personally do not hold a shovel with my dominant hand on top and neither do many other people I know. The fact that you are so dogmatic about this is hilarious. Mario Lemieux was a right handed right shot my guy.I think he was an ok player. Nathan MacKinnon also a right handed right shot. I can go on and on. The general rule is whatever way feels natural for you when you pick up a stick is what you should go with. It's as simple as that. 50 years of experience in hockey yet you think McDavid has a better shot than Bedard when anyone with eyes can clearly see who has the better shot.
I think he's overated. He will be good but he won't be no Crosby or Mcdavid
I hope the blue jackets gets him, imagine him in the same line with Gaudreau and Laine.
Likely Bedard-Laine, and someone else. Gaudreau will be well past his prime and his height doesn’t make things much better
The worst thing is he's going to get picked by the goddamn worst team best player worst team
Or Kent Johnson… they grew up nearby and played on in-line hockey team together
@@justisjohansen1989 Every (well almost) top player is drafted by a bad team. That's why some turn out to be busts. They have amazing skills compared to players who will likely never play an NHL game, but in the big league they need a supporting cast that isn't there. That's when you see if they are truly the best.
@@davemason4055 yes sir I, know it just sucks for that player
The Blackhawks will ruin him.
Can't wait to see this kid waste his talent on the Ducks haha.
Better then you
too small and too slow imo..not generational talent..sure hes got that wicked wrist shot and deeking skillz...but won't be good if hes slowAF and goes against huge guys who can outskate him imo, if u play him physical he might give up, no dog in him, theo fleury had speed and heart/grit , im predicting hes like a 30-40goals at most per year
CONNOR IS OVER RATED! all his games are under age 18 level... yes he pulls this crap in juniors... when he gets to the nhl he wont be near this good...
LOL All the comments in here sound like a Dad talking about their little leaguer pitching a 2 hitter.
Your never a stud until you take those skating lessons tho