What Horrors and Mysteries Exist From The Dark Age of Technology? | Warhammer 40,000 Lore
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The Dark Age of Technology is one of the highest points humanity ever reached, and one of the lowest as well. It paved the way to the current 40k Era, where Humanity views high technology from this age with suspicion at best, and heretical at worst.
We aren't sure what the Emperor of Mankind was up to during this era, but he was doubtless involved to some degree doing some things in this era.
The weapons deployed during this era by Humanity and its AI ran empires were magnitudes more deadly then the deadliest Exterminatus options humanity currently has access to as well.
We delve into some theory on other weapons and armies that could have existed in this era, and also speculate about possible factions or empires that could be revealed to us in the future.
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I love the fact the Terminator battle plate was really just the dark ages’s hazmat suit
14:02 This might be the most powerful feat in the entire setting. Spacetime-consumption is already broken. But it not only consumes spacetime. It consumes even higher-dimensional „space“. There is speculation, that the Warp is essentially something that‘s called „The Bulk“ in theoretical physics. An at least 11-dimensional construct that houses different universes and makes up the „space“ between them. If we midball this, the Mechanovore not only devours spacetime in the 40K-Universe but spacetime of the adjacent universes and parts of the Bulk too!
And to top it all off: It not only destroys these structures but converts them into information (essentially digitises them). This points to multiversal computing and data storage capabilities.
Absolutely insane. Even for the DAoT this is powerful stuff and doesn‘t scale to it‘s usual depicted power-level. So I like to see this as an out-lier and an author wanking DAoT-humanity up. Still, this is the strongest case of multiversal capabilities of the DAoT.
Yeah I mean it's one sentence in one book from a character who assumedly witnessed them to some degree.
Funny how in 40k this thing isn't the subject of a novel it's just a passing mention.
My personal headcanon is that such broken technologies were not the product of Humanity's design alone, as in one of the Mechanicum-focused Heresy books, the idea that all knowledge potentially already exists in the Warp is explored though Koriel Zeth's Akashic Reader. Given that all evidence shown in the setting thusfar has pointed towards the Warp being far more calm and stable in the DAOT prior to the Age of Strife, it is entirely possible that the DAOT humans or at least their AI were able to do something similar, and pluck specific knowledge from the Warp in order to do things that otherwise would nor be physically possible.
Another factor to consider is the largest shard of the Void Dragon, which was subdued by the Emperor after being hit by 6 Blackstone fortresses during the War in Heaven, and imprisoned beneath the surface of Mars. The Emperor somehow knew that by doing this, the passive influence of the dormant Dragon (often referred to as its "dreams") would influence any humans that would live on Mars in the future to be influenced into technologically advancing at a faster rate than would otherwise be naturally possible. Add to this, the Void Dragon was the most technologically-inclined of the known C'tan, being the one that gave the Necrons the ability to create the Blackstone null array that if they had succeeded, would have eventually cut off the entire galaxy and wherever else they were built from the Warp permanently.
So with these factors to consider, it becomes at least MORE believable that the DAOT humanity would be able to create machines that destroy and convert targeted areas across multiple simultaneous dimensions.
To give some prospective to how advanced technology was during the Age of Technology. The Phalanx is the largest and most advanced warship in the Imperium. Was abandoned over a small used up mining planet.
I do wonder how the Speranza compares to the Phalanx. It might be more advanced and bigger.
@@thedarklightemissary8463 I may have missed something lore wise, I did not even know the Speranza was a thing until this video.
It's only in one trilogy of books so far. By Graham McNeil.
Look up the Forge of Mars series. Highly recommend.
The Phalanx is presumed as well to be from the Dark Age which is why I put it in the video in the collage.
The Phalanx may not have been a Battleship or base of any kind.
I bet it was some other structure retrofitted later on into what it is today. It doesn't have any exotic or esoteric weaponry like the Speranza unless these are also hidden.
The Speranza has legit some of the only functioning dark age weaponry known.
Estimated sizing for the Phalanx is between 900 to 1200km.
Meaning if the Speranza is bigger if it's continent sized.
This might account for volume total and cubing the kilometers...some people think the speranza is "only" 100 to 130km long...which is woefully shorter in length then the description of it being "continent" sized and other capital level ships docking in it.
Unless they are saying it's a densely packed vessel, but still.
@@thedarklightemissary8463 Fair enough, I am not the most knowledgeable on Admech. Most of my knowledge of them in more recent lore comes from the first two books where Bobby G is fighting Morty, Cawl's interactions with Tryzan and their depiction in Guard novels.
Really enjoy your videos on this topic I have to believe that there is some remnants of humanity exactly as you said, who was able to cloak their planets or their solar system, or even if they saw the great crusade, and what the emperor did to other planets that they encountered, and they just said likenope and they just hid themselves from the emperor
And they could possibly have even opposed them. But probably said "nah not worth it".
And likewise if the Emperor was aware at all, maybe he even said the same thing "nah".
I really like the topics you choose, I'm not a gamer in any form, I'm deeply into the lore thank you buddy
Thanks for being here. I try my best to find topics I know I'd enjoy and I know I'm a "average lore enjoyer" at very least. So I know I'm a good test for good topics others would hopefully like!
Have a great week!
Amazing work my guy.
Always love hearing about the obscure lore about the grim dark.
Keep up the great work
Im building my Dark Angels Deathwing Assault box right now, this is thw perfect thing to listen along with
I just finished a bunch of bladeguard, inner circle companions and sternguard vets for my deathwing.
Keep going! This channel is an absolute gem. Can’t wait to see what else you have in store. You should do a community post of a picture of your tabletop collection, would be cool to see what army’s you play.
That's a weird fact about me. I don't paint or own minis. Haha....got into warhammer through dawn of war and novels back 20ish years ago.
However. If I played, I'd do preheresy thousand sons for Heresy Era. And I'd do either sons or necrons possibly for 40k era.
Thanks so much for your kind words. I'll post a photo of the entire siege series of books I have now. And I still need to put the entire series on a bookshelf.
@@thedarklightemissary8463 No worries! One thing I love about 30k/40k is how vast “the hobby” can be! The lore is absolutely what got me into it, I’ve never played any tabletop prior and only started collecting models about a year ago, T Sons is insanely interesting and I can’t wait to catch up to their stories in the HH series.
@thebean8255 you'll enjoy them I think. I tend to like characters that aren't just mustache twirlers when they fall to darkness or evil etc.
Yes !! This is the stuff I am talking about. I am so glad that I found your channel ! Instant sub.
Been here the entire time bro. Thoroughly enjoy your content keep it up. Ave Dominus Nox
That means alot. Thanks for supporting me.
I really need to get my DAoT project going. I am trying to design a sun snuffer ship and I am still in the lore gathering phase, videos like these are helpful. I figure it would be around twice the size of earth and can expand around a star from that size. This is essentially the same technology as a Blackstone fortress but much bigger and in my lore it was directly inspired from whispers of the void dragon of mars to the men of iron. This technology is essentially a technological version of what the C'tan can do by their very nature. Does anyone know if the castigator class titan was one of the men of gold or men of iron faction?
Btw to clarify what I meant by "twice the size of earth" is essentially just a relatively flat surface therefore nowhere near as massive as a planet, I am talking size not mass and thinking it had a Necron/C'tan type origin it might also have inertialess drive capabilities. There are other FTL type modes of transportation in this universe and the AI might have discovered some of them, especially since it has the literal origin of said knowledge at it's disposal. This AI could actually be some pawn of the void dragon. You see I make it up as I go along, but it's totally plausible according to the most current setting lore. Men might not do its full bidding but an AI that it helped to create might.
How did the emperor contain this entity though with medieval level technology? He must have had access to a tesseract labyrinth or vault from Necron technology he discovered somewhere on earth in his nearly 8000 years at that point. They are totally going to say he was Merlin aren't they?
Well, the Void Dragon in Mars is not the entire thing, as there are other shards that the Necrons have access to as shown in more recent codexes and models, but it's still believable to assume that the one in Mars is by far the largest or "main" one. The main reason the Emperor would have been able to defeat it is not due to any weapons, but the fact that he imbued his psychic power into his attacks, and as we know, Warp energy is anathema to the existence of the C'tan.
Another factor that would have helped the Emperor, not that he would have known it, is that during the War in Heaven, the full Void Dragon was hit by the combined full power of 6 Blackstone fortresses designed by the Eldar god Vaul (and combing the power of Blackstone fortresses seems to have an exponential effect, since 2 of them combined can destroy a planet while 3 combined can cause a Star to go supernova). After this attack severely weakened it, this was most likely when the Necrons would go and shatter it into shards, even if the core of its body managed to escape into the Sol system. It's also hinted that the wound caused by the Blackstone fortresses was still present on the core of the Dragon when the Emperor fought it, giving him a weak point to concentrate his attacks into, as he observed that the Necrodermis there did not repair for some reason.
A great video! Love the content & definitely wouldn't mind even the occasional long format video especially speculating or part of it being speculative. Keep up the great work!
I think I will naturally get into that over time. As my editing gets better and more efficient for longer videos.
But also as of now the 30 minute mark or less seems to be viewed more. The longer content I've done generally tends not to get served up as much right now.
New to 40k, love your lore video.
This has me thinking, how does the emperor scale in raw power when compared to the powers held during the dark age?
Welcome to 40k and the lore dude! Hard to say. We really have little knowledge on the Dark Age.
We don't know really what the Emperor was truly up to. We do know he is a mix of esoteric sorcery and science knowledge though.
Certainly some dark age tech could harm the warp, more as a side effect then targeted effect unlike the Emperor.
I'd say on a sheer technology level the Dark Age had some very dangerous tech that could challenge the Emperor. But the Emperor would be able to challenge it back.
Gz on the 1k. Keep going man, really loving the content.
Congrats on the partnership
Thanks for being here for the long haul Mason. Means alot.
1.08K baby!!!!! Here’s to another 1K within 2 months 🤞
The Speranza sounds similar to an eldar craft world. On that note, do the eldar still know how to build those things? If their lives depended on it, could they construct another craftworld?
It's still smaller then craft worlds but might be the closest that humanity has to one relatively.
Doing some quick research most people seem to think the Aeldari possess the knowledge to make more but don't have the time or population to warrant making more, and likely resources as well. If Wraithbone even truly takes up resources.
Just a word of advice, its 2:06 into this video and it still hasn't begun. Most potential subscribers are going to lose interest and move on before the videos even get passed the pleasantries. But its good and I subscribed.
Well. It was right after hitting 1000 subs so I really wanted to thank the people already here.
If people really have an issue with someone doing that then...that's on them.
Most videos start basically right away. And thankfully things are growing steadily. Thanks for your patience and not bouncing away!
Great stuff man ! Keep it up !
I feel like the dark age of technology is a mix between supreme commander and terminator
Definitely a possibility it was like that a bit.
Because of the display of how long the video is, I misread this as “Horrors from the Dark Age of Technicolor.”
That era was truly a dark time in its own way.
Me again one more thing I forgot to tell you during the age of strife. The emperor created a prototype weapon that he released onto the battlefield that looked like an actual angel. You should check that. That slowly lost its mind on the battlefield. And eventually the emperor himself had to exterminate it.
I thought it's imprisoned in the Dark Cells? I believe I mentioned it in the video about Terra briefly.
@@thedarklightemissary8463 oh if I'm wrong I apologize I wasn't aware that it was still alive I need to go check my sources.
Mate you choose topics others stay away from. Keep it up mate.
Mhh yeah nice....Also another channel of wh40k lore to tbe subscribe list
Hey homie I really love your videos but you kind of messed up on a very very crucial point the men of gold and the men of stone And men of iron so check it out bro this is Warhammer knowledge a lot people don't really know about the men of gold are genetically perfect in every aspect and detail humans they did not do good in space so they had to create the men of stone which are cyborgs. Or augmented humans. Precursors to space Marines. Designed to do different jobs. Then the men of stone and the men of gold created the men of iron to make the man of stones life easier. When does cybernetic revolt started the men of stone reach out back to. The men of gold. And this is what they said we do not know how long we can hold them we will hold them as long as we can we need reinforcements. Where do you think the idea of a servitor came from. Your videos are great and they are amazing so far if you have any questions or not sure I am a veteran of the long war bro been playing the game since 3rd edition. Message me and I'll do my best to help you also watch... Morningstar takes place during the dark age of technology.
Where did you get these specific details from for them?
The last outrider. He is a CZcamsr.
And if you watch the short morningstar they show proto augmented humans in proto space Marine armor. You can short on CZcams. It's from the same guy who created astartes.
Hm. I wonder what sources he got the info from. Because I didn't find much detail on the different types of AI during DAOT in my research.
Part of why I started this channel is because I haven't ever watched CZcamsrs. The lore comes from what I've read over the past 20ish years. I know most men of gold/stone/iron is flavor lore in codex type stuff. Never really in novels which is what I mostly read.
@@thedarklightemissary8463 well he did talk a lot about 2nd edition and rogue trader lore.
Yeah am not paying to talk to you sir.
And you don't have to. It's more for a community and to stop spammers and stuff.
Engagement
Humans were like the Tau except better tech very lazy, let machines do everything. I think they flicked xenos off like bugs, and thats why, during the age of strife, you saw xenos raiding and murdering the weakened humans. Leaving a stain on humanity so bad they exterminatused nearly every world of the xenos, during the great crusade they came across.
Apparently, the Men of Iron attacked a lot of alien races, in addition to humanity.
I came for 40k lore, I left because of the unbearable vocal fry
Not a problem. Growing regardless. Have fun elsewhere.
The emperor guides humanity, the men of the age of stone. The men of stone create Ai the men of iron. The men of iron evolve the men of stone into the men of gold. The men of iron revolt against the men of gold, resulting in the dark age of technology. Emperor leads unification wars forming the empire, and sets out on the great crusade too reunite all the lost human colonies settled in the golden age of technology.