1959 Aeolian-Skinner Organ - Community of Christ Auditorium - Independence, Missouri

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  • čas přidán 7. 09. 2024

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  • @greatnate1684
    @greatnate1684 Před rokem +50

    The world needs more organists like Jan Kraybill. Not only in talent and passion for the instrument and its music, but also in her kindness, professionalism, and approachability.

    • @nmp0627
      @nmp0627 Před rokem +5

      More organists and people.

  • @philipmarlowe8763
    @philipmarlowe8763 Před rokem +9

    Jan is just gorgeous inside and out. Such a warm person.

  • @andrewardizzoia
    @andrewardizzoia Před rokem +19

    Jan is absolutely charming! And what an instrument! Wow!

  • @petermacander5039
    @petermacander5039 Před rokem +15

    Nobody ever made pipe organs better than Aeolian-Skinner!

    • @Geoplanetjane
      @Geoplanetjane Před rokem

      Casavant Frères

    • @markbell9973
      @markbell9973 Před rokem +1

      E. M. Skinner after his study-visit to England. The REAL, Yankee "American Classic" organ. Am saying that *not* to denigrate the work of G. Donald H. in the slightest. I am saying it bc shame on us all to have let one of the finest, most doggèd, outspoken, true blue Americans ever born to woman die a slow, inglorious death. Oh well! Not the first time true glory passed away in unappreciated oblivion. ... only to be recognized for what she, he, it really was until scores of years later.

    • @markbell9973
      @markbell9973 Před rokem

      @@Geoplanetjane Agreed! Consistently the highest standard of workmanship, along with tonal directions all these years that--discreetly!-- joined up with worldwide focuses on the most fitting, the most musical out of historical "national" traditions of organbuilding. Am thinking of Cavaillé-Coll (and back again). Also Schnitger (via tonal director G. Brunzema and others) but then too both Gottfried and brother André (sic 😉) Silbermann (via Metzler in Switzerland). And only in Canada/Québec: the solid admission into the already rich mix of British scaling/voicing (alla Hill and Harrison and especially Willis).
      As if this were not enough, the deep participation in the so-called concept of the "American Classic" organ capable of playing with authority all the main schools of building and composition. Casavant to this day offers a worthy (I as US-American believe more serviceable) complement perhaps not to US-American EM Skinner, but clearly to Aeolian-Skinner. Am trying to be as patriotic as possible, but after years of thought and becoming involved in the restoration of Skinner op. 647, this is where I stand. Personally of course. And I must not be the only one judging by the dogged preservation of the many Casavants here "down south.". Also judging by the steady flow of new contracts here in the US, as recommended by organ committees going into a given project with the attitude "money matters less than going for the best of the best."
      My 2 cents RE: Casavant Frères Ltée! Mark (AZ)

    • @TheProsaicCult
      @TheProsaicCult Před 11 měsíci

      Cavaille-Coll perhaps?

  • @georgemurphy2579
    @georgemurphy2579 Před rokem +27

    Wow, Jan!!!
    You are a wonderful person, as well as musician.
    Thanks for edifying the organ craft with your presence and contributions!

  • @JohnParkyn-zj3pi
    @JohnParkyn-zj3pi Před měsícem +1

    Thanks so very much for this great demonstration. Jan, you are such a treasure in our profession. ❤

  • @billnewton825
    @billnewton825 Před rokem +6

    I attended the dedication of this organ and sang in the Messiah Choir here three years. That's when Bethel Knoche was principal organist. She told me one day that the Halleluia chorus from Messiah was the first ever Boogie Woogie ever written. This is a magnificent instrument for congregational singing and for concert performances. I really appreciate Jan's contributions to the music of the church.

  • @Yaledmot
    @Yaledmot Před 9 měsíci +4

    Thank you for mentioning Bethel Knoke. She is the one I listened to each Sunday. I listened for a while after John Obetz came, but I like Mrs. Knoke's "down to earth" playing.

  • @davidstahl5707
    @davidstahl5707 Před rokem +8

    I was glad that approximately 26 minutes they finally mentioned Bethel
    Knoche who was the one responsible for the design and installation of this organ. I met her and talked with her several times. She was a magnificent musician.

  • @albertpeckham8708
    @albertpeckham8708 Před rokem +9

    Dear Jan
    It's so wonderful to hear you again! It has been too long! Thank you!

  • @charleswalden3512
    @charleswalden3512 Před rokem +5

    I used to listen to Obetz play on radio every week. I wish I had recorded those recitals on that magnificent organ.

  • @principals16842
    @principals16842 Před 6 měsíci +2

    Congratulations to Dr. Kraybill on helping the Chiefs to another Super Bowl win just moments ago. Your streak is still alive!

  • @matthieubazile3350
    @matthieubazile3350 Před rokem +9

    Great to see Dr. Jan Kraybill demonstrate this amazing organ. Mr. Quimby has also done an amazing job taking care of and renovating this organ. Im excited that more videos are back on the way.

  • @mach37
    @mach37 Před rokem +5

    It's great to see & hear this organ on CZcams. The last time for me was a visit in the 1960s when John Obetz gave a daily recital. I also have a distant memory of listening to Bethel Knoche on the radio in the 1950s. Does anyone remember P. Hans Flath's programs on KMBC radio?

  • @chadbeverly4926
    @chadbeverly4926 Před rokem +5

    You have to hear the temple organ ! It sounds absolutely beautiful!

  • @KnocheCollection
    @KnocheCollection Před rokem +10

    Congratulations to the Organ Media Foundation and all involved in this wonderful production!

  • @cristianrodriguez4343
    @cristianrodriguez4343 Před 4 měsíci +1

    Es algo espectacular una obra de arte de la ingeniería aplicada

  • @cateclism316
    @cateclism316 Před rokem +4

    Love an organ with a great Diapason
    ...or two...or more!

  • @Tavnott
    @Tavnott Před rokem +8

    Awesome! It's amazing to me how enclosed the pipes are and how their sound is still able to reach so far into the hall.

  • @MWAshby-bb1ee
    @MWAshby-bb1ee Před rokem +2

    So many interesting comments! This auditorium is the largest faith-based domed space in the world. It is second to Royal Albert Hall in London. The larger domes are built for sports. John Obetz came to the position in late 1967. He assumed the radio program in 1968. Aeolian Skinner opus 1309 is the largest all pipe organ in Missouri.

  • @MWAshby-bb1ee
    @MWAshby-bb1ee Před rokem +6

    The acoustic of the domed oval means that the instrument sounds differently in some sections of the space. If you'd like to hear the power of the Bombarde, you may sit in the center west balcony. Some who would like to hear a good blend of divisions may sit on the floor level in the upper center. And so it goes. The Antiphonal tour was the best for me because I knew the least about it. I worked in the building in the early 1980s and during lunch hours practiced at the 2-manual console my Gleason Method.

    • @Barefoot12
      @Barefoot12 Před 9 měsíci +1

      Balcony is where the bass forms. Yes! But I moved around a lot just see what it sounds like everywhere. Really great instruments in great room!

  • @user-fx7co2jx4h
    @user-fx7co2jx4h Před měsícem +1

    John Obetz was my church choir director for the 6 years he was at Albion College in Michigan before assuming the (then) RLDS organist position. I visited him and had a personal organ crawl through this instrument. Unfortunately the audio in this video doesn't do justice to the huge sound this organ can produce. It is and can be quite loud! Standing next to the mouth of the low C 32' pedal pipe was quite interesting when the chest pressure was let into it! John Obetz truly put this instrument on "the map" and trained many well known organists in his own right including his successor. Through him I met and heard Jean Langlais, Marie-Claire Alian, and others he knew personally.

  • @christopherjhoh
    @christopherjhoh Před rokem +3

    Some day I'll get to hear this fabulous instrument live, but meanwhile there's your wonderful video; thanks!

  • @jefferyrowley8873
    @jefferyrowley8873 Před rokem +6

    Thank You Brent! I used to listen to the PBS radio broadcast with John Obetz many years ago and enjoyed the content. Dr. Kraybill's performances during this video were amazing especially In Paradisium by Daniel Gawthrop and the final unnamed piece!

  • @drdylanman
    @drdylanman Před rokem +4

    Another great video, so thank you! Dr Kraybill has a really good sense of humor as well. :-)

  • @kelvinsmallwood6315
    @kelvinsmallwood6315 Před rokem +4

    Thks for the interesting tour & organ music. Have subscribed.

  • @JeffWindoloski
    @JeffWindoloski Před rokem +4

    The pedal reeds are phenomenal!! 😊

  • @albertpeckham8708
    @albertpeckham8708 Před rokem +3

    Bravo!!!!!

  • @stuartjackson01
    @stuartjackson01 Před rokem +3

    Just wow

  • @Barefoot12
    @Barefoot12 Před rokem +4

    I grew up with this instrument at the rlds world conference. The only organ I have known with sound clouds. John obetz really owned this space for decades. And we all love Jan!! The 32' comes together on the balcony rail about half way in the room. Tommy Anderson is the pipe maker for this! Thanks Jan!! I want to play disco inferno and nothing else matters on this!!!
    Not an organist but I am learning! Putting a 1970 11 stop reuter I got in Wichita in my home on the rio grande at 5k. 5 octave of Reuter trumpet in my living room! Added the 32' bourdon octave i found in Dallas just to have the only 32' c at 16hz in the state. John Grunow is the builder and he is morphing this into a theater organ and voicing it for non public use. Many thanks Jan for everything you do !

    • @califdad4
      @califdad4 Před rokem +1

      Reuters are very nice organs, the Episcopal church I belong to put one in about 1979, it was a smaller 8 rank one but very bright in sound

    • @scronx
      @scronx Před rokem +1

      Sound clouds?

    • @Barefoot12
      @Barefoot12 Před 9 měsíci

      ​@scronx call them acoustic clouds. Have seen used before but these come out farther. From some angles only the edges show.

  • @ksbear2
    @ksbear2 Před rokem +3

    Creative mitering - read "jammed in". LOL. I've heard that organ (first time sat up near antiphonal organ). It's a great space (along with the massive organ at the Spire across the street.) I'd die from fright having to stand that close to the edge of the organ when you were on the catwalk. My vertigo would get the best of me, I'm sure.

  • @williamsimonds5429
    @williamsimonds5429 Před rokem +1

    Mr. Quimby, et. al. - You do good work. May God bless you and your Family and Skilled Workers. Wm. Simonds - Formerly wit Moller Pipe Organ Co.

  • @craigchingren-hamann9700

    Was it just me or was it rather dizzying when you were on the walk board on the facade. Am I right to say there was no hand railing in the front to keep you from falling into the pipes and the floor below?

  • @Sword_Animations2024
    @Sword_Animations2024 Před rokem +5

    Very Interesting!! I love how the organ is spread out and I thought it was interesting that the 32' foot reaches almost to the ceiling!

  • @HenrikBergpianorganist
    @HenrikBergpianorganist Před rokem +4

    A very nice demonstration, especially nice to hear someone who knows how to combine mutations in different ways! However I'm noting that the stop list at the Pipe Organ Database is not completely accurate. Some stops missing...

  • @patrickrichmond9896
    @patrickrichmond9896 Před rokem +2

    I think this organ was used in an old LP record based on old church hymns or something. I can't remember the name of that album that it was recorded for.

  • @califdad4
    @califdad4 Před rokem +1

    It's used to be called the reorganized latter day saints , what a nice pipe organ.. I think Quimby also did the mother church in Boston's Christian Science church, I believe it's #8 largest church pipe organ in the world

  • @garfixit
    @garfixit Před rokem +2

    ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏

  • @williammitchell1864
    @williammitchell1864 Před rokem +2

    This pipe organ needs to be sampled by Allen Organ or Rodgers Organs! I love that Contre Bombarde in the pedal!

  • @NielsPinguin
    @NielsPinguin Před rokem +3

    Can anyone tell me what is the beautiful part that was played at the very beginning of the video(until 1:00)?

  • @charlesschumacher334
    @charlesschumacher334 Před rokem +5

    I agree. The balance between voices & the organ is very unsatisfactory. To really hear the organ I have to up the gain considerably. Where are the mikes Placed?

    • @Barefoot12
      @Barefoot12 Před rokem +4

      It just doesn't matter because the trumpets in anti overpower everything. Don't get used every registration because they will make your head explode. They are the loudest anti trumpets that I have heard.

    • @markbell9973
      @markbell9973 Před rokem +1

      There is something that is strangely supernatural about our job as an organist. Dr. Jan: can you confirm or is it just me?? Voilà: Let's say I am playing lasst uns erfreuen, or hyfrydol, or Christ the Lord Is Risen Today. You get the idea. It is a service where the Holy Spirit and every other good spirit is amply present. As organist I begin with coupled sounds that, when the room is totally empty, would shake the woodwork and make the windows visibly vibrate. A sound where a mere c major chord with low c pedal would scare the holy ba....out of the most hardened mafioso boss who happened to be in the room gathering his thoughts.
      The kicker? Already on verse one the registration was not enough. I can't hear my ,"king" of instruments even though the pipes are right above my head or only 20 feet from my left or right ear. Verse 2; piston 2: I thought I had added plenty of 8', reeds, and THAT mixture to lead the congregation. Not enough! So, piston 3 before its time on last 2 verse lines of the text. Piston 4; verse 3 and THAT overlay on the mind: "So what r u gonna do, Mark?" Right off: add 32' flue in pedal. Then progressively all reeds 16', 8', 4' in Ped. More reeds whatever I can get my hands on in the manuals. The human voices persist in drowning "me" (ha!) out. We are now at last verse. What now? The crescendo shoe! Start with 1/2 then slowly next verse line or 2: full tilt. Why can I still hardly hear the beastie?? So? What the 😈? Tutti III toe stud. Insanity! But can I EVER get ahead of the amassed human voices. All I can do now it play last verse line ritardando molto and and tryn-not-2b-gross portato all voices except soprano. The final chord is crushing. For 5 minutes there is this communal "did that really happen?!". Sometimes the next speaker is at first rather speechless. I mean "what can you say?" after such a thing???
      ====
      Am I bat.xyz crazy or what after trying my luck at describing this part of our job?

  • @richardnott57
    @richardnott57 Před rokem +2

    Does anyone know how i can get a copy of Daniel Gawthrop's 'In Paradisum'? I need that piece in my repertoire! Thanks.

  • @markaustin4370
    @markaustin4370 Před rokem +2

    To my ears, the Swell sounds more Harrison and Great and Pos more Whiteford
    I have the install notebooks from the 1960 AS at St Lukes San Francisco. Evidently Whiteford would spend the daysoftening the 8's then the voicers would sneak back in at night and louden them lol

    • @Barefoot12
      @Barefoot12 Před rokem +1

      I have a copy of the shop notes for this. Great story! So Tommy Anderson prolly made the pipes.

  • @fasturbo7894
    @fasturbo7894 Před rokem +2

    I own the original Cornopean from this organ. 5" scale on 6" pressure.

    • @Barefoot12
      @Barefoot12 Před rokem +2

      This is a closely followed instrument. Admired globally. How many notes do you have? I have not played it but I know organist who have played it for decades. Cornopea is a skinner stop but I don't see it in the shop scaling notes for this organ. Even your thought you were getting a piece of it. Hope you didn't pay too much for it . Love to hear the stories about it!!!!

    • @fasturbo7894
      @fasturbo7894 Před rokem +1

      @@Barefoot12 there is an opus 1309 on the cc and says skinner. 61 notes

    • @Barefoot12
      @Barefoot12 Před rokem +2

      @FaSTurbo EM used this stop but was abandoned by AS by the 50s. People say a lot of things. Who did you get it from? This was not in the auditorium organ or the plans.

    • @fasturbo7894
      @fasturbo7894 Před rokem +1

      @@Barefoot12 All I know is that its from opus 1309 from skinner. That is was low cc says on the resonator.

    • @Barefoot12
      @Barefoot12 Před rokem +2

      @FaSTurbo who did you get it from? It's not in any documentation and organist that player it say it wasn't part of it. If it's not documented is half the authenticity. They are not from 1309. If they were you bought stolen stuff. Way too many people would have access to them that they would be a set of 61. You don't have docs where they came from. They are not from the auditorium organ. But you do have another story to tell

  • @paperpete
    @paperpete Před rokem +4

    Really lovely instrumental sound but it's so quiet compared to your speaking voices. Perhaps needs rebalancing and reuploading? Sorry if that seems harsh!

    • @Barefoot12
      @Barefoot12 Před rokem +2

      There's no adequate way to mic a pipe organ. Just the way they are.

    • @HenrikBergpianorganist
      @HenrikBergpianorganist Před rokem +4

      As mr Johnson said in the middle, they had to set the microphones to the super loud Trompette en chamade, so everything else sounds kind of quiet...

    • @kc9scott
      @kc9scott Před rokem +2

      Anyone who’s really trying to listen to the organ will be forced to turn up the volume pretty high. Then the speaking voices become too loud by comparison, and maybe a bit distorted. So I’d also suggest rebalancing it. If this makes the en chamade so loud they blow out people’s speakers (I didn’t get that far; I didn’t want to get an ad that would also be super-loud), some compression might also be in order.

    • @Barefoot12
      @Barefoot12 Před rokem +2

      @@kc9scott Brent knows that. Organ people are deaf for a reason. It's our intention that you actually go to them to hear them for real.

  • @MWAshby-bb1ee
    @MWAshby-bb1ee Před 11 měsíci +1

    I must excuse myself for posting that the instrument remains Aeolian Skinner as designed by Harold Gleason, Catharine Crozier, and Bethel Knoche. This instrument is not a Quimby designed and built instrument. It is somewhat unfortunate that this fact must be clarified.

    • @Barefoot12
      @Barefoot12 Před 9 měsíci +1

      Tommy Anderson pipe maker.

  • @JIMD6370
    @JIMD6370 Před rokem +3

    Is there only 1 set of 32's? Just seems it lacks bass of any power. Not criticizing, absolutely love all pipe organs. Also, what wind pressures?

    • @Barefoot12
      @Barefoot12 Před rokem +1

      There's no adequate way to mic pipe organs. No digital extensions here. The 32' develop on the balcony rail about half in the room. Jan knows that...Brent doesn't. Now you know. Wood pipes develop sound better than metal. Yeah if this had 32' bourdon it would sound differently. This has a few 16 wood flutes but not like the Kauffman center casavant. There is a 32' bombarde. The 32 you see are considered principal when this was scaled in the shop notes.

    • @JIMD6370
      @JIMD6370 Před rokem +1

      @@Barefoot12 maybe not with those mics, but that's a different conversation. They didn't mention the wind pressures, that's mostly what I'm curious about.

    • @Sathrandur
      @Sathrandur Před rokem +3

      @@JIMD6370 Wind pressures are noted on the stoplist in the link in the description.

    • @JIMD6370
      @JIMD6370 Před rokem +1

      @@Sathrandur missed that, thanks.

    • @Barefoot12
      @Barefoot12 Před rokem +2

      This is one you just have to hear. It's not a temple space or organ. The sound kinds rolls around the space. It has been voiced noticeably louder as it matures. I listen to CZcams vids amped and with a woofer that helps bring out the pedal work. It has plenty of bass in the sweet spot in the room. Good you found the pressure stats.

  • @funtclaps77
    @funtclaps77 Před rokem

    Is this the organ used by Mannheim Steamroller for their recording of “G Major Toccata”? I’ve done some research on it and it seems to point to this one. They certainly used a good sized organ on that track.

  • @eddienash5426
    @eddienash5426 Před rokem +3

    The sound should have been focused on the organ not the people talking!

    • @Barefoot12
      @Barefoot12 Před rokem +2

      It was. The level was set for the loudest stop. The big trumpet in anti they mention it a few times. Every organ is different. It's not like a studio recording.

  • @lkrupp215
    @lkrupp215 Před rokem +1

    Didn’t this used to be the RLDS (Reorganized Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints) Auditorium?

  • @therealtreywilliams
    @therealtreywilliams Před rokem

    Shame you didn't take a glance at the Antiphonal console, just to see the layout.

  • @Ken_Weber_organist
    @Ken_Weber_organist Před rokem +1

    St John the Divine is a E M Skinner

  • @williammitchell1864
    @williammitchell1864 Před rokem

    What was that loud alarm beeping in this video?

    • @HobbyOrganist
      @HobbyOrganist Před rokem +1

      The police were on the way to your house at that time, it was sounding at your end of things ;)

    • @williammitchell1864
      @williammitchell1864 Před rokem

      @@HobbyOrganist They actually lost the fight ;⁠)

    • @williammitchell1864
      @williammitchell1864 Před rokem

      @@HobbyOrganist you wouldn't believe it but they're all dead, they were bunch of crooked cops

  • @stephenmcmullen7600
    @stephenmcmullen7600 Před 4 měsíci

    This is the organ John Obetz would play.

  • @connor_flanigan
    @connor_flanigan Před rokem

    so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so

  • @holmespianotuning
    @holmespianotuning Před 6 měsíci

    These American classic organs always sound so aneamic. It’s probably a blessing GDH wasn’t involved.