Thank you for explaining this so well! The swirl ceiling is throughout our house and there are several cracks I need to repair. Glad to finally find someone who truly knows what they are doing.
Perfect timing, I have to repair my parents bathroom drywall and this is the perfect video. You are such an amazing teacher and a lovely person. I am grateful that you chose to share your knowledge.
I'm having all my polybutylene plumbing replaced in my whole house as I speak right now. I will be doing the drywall myself and I find your videos to be the most informative and easy to follow. Thank you so much for taking the time to put these out, you are greatly appreciated.
What Bonding agent did you use? What plaster and how much sand? This looks so easy and super helpful just need the materials list! Thanks you so much!!
You are GREAT. A real life saver. You've taught me so much over the years! Yet again, I've watched this video and now I'm ready to patch some walls.... Thanks so much!
This is what I like! I'm obsessed with making a patch look as if it isn't there. Plastering is such an amazing skill. Wallboard compound is more versatile maybe, but plaster, like concrete, has so much more possible character and durability.
Thank you. I appreciate this. I've got a 1920's craftsman and it was a pain to find a video on finishing/repairing sand plaster. I've got some spots on the ceiling that need this.
Thank you Leah. Older video but still very useful. I have a house built in the mid 90's and it has this finish/pattern on every wall and ceiling so I need to know how to patch. Great video.
As always you are very professional, I'm a retired general contractor, doing on the side drywalling and painting, you bring back a lot, and again I learn from them, Thank you.
Thank you for this video! This seems to be a pattern that was more popular with older construction, vs the new popcorn style you see everywhere. You helped me replace several damaged spots from a water line break
Great work! I do repair work on many homes, and while I've patched a lot of drywall, I have not tried sand finish plaster. Thanks for breaking this down and explaining the steps. There aren't many videos out for this topic.
Just did this in my bathroom to fix the ceiling. I used blue board which was what the house was constructed of. A large brush worked well to match the existing swirl pattern we had. We were really worried about doing it but after watching this video and making the attempt we cant even tell where the patch was (24x36). Worked great. THanks!!
Thanks, Leah. I've been trying to figure out how this was done. You rock! You have given me the confidence to take on projects that I wouldn't have done before.
Wish I had watched this from the start of my repairs... Dysfunctional family = 37 total holes in the drywall I've undertaken the effort to patch... I already slathered on gallons of joint compound and figured I'd sand all the walls down/remove the finish from the entire space, cause I didn't think I'd be able to match the pattern.
I am back to normal now, but had a problem last week with walking after coming back from one A/C business, looking for a replacement unit. I was also having problems with talking correctly also, but that is over now. I just have to take it easy the rest of the Summer while working outside in the heat.
A couple of questions. I have a swirl pattern ceiling like this that has a small area where the finish bubbled up a cracked after suffering a water leak from upstairs 2 years ago. It dried and seemed fine until a couple of weeks ago. Looks more like joint compound was used instead of plaster. I have scraped and sanded. I see no evidence of the white part of drywall, looks more like the backside, brown paper. 1. Is it more likely that the original finish was joint compound since it flaked off? 2. What product do you recommend to prep the paper so that I get good adhesion of joint compound to ceiling? I’m assuming I can swirl pattern joint compound the same way you did with the plaster. Great videos! Some of the best out there. Thanks.
Helpful video but some important steps left out like how to actually "taper the edge" or "feather the edge" and how much silica sand did you use? TrueValue hardware stores sell those exact floats btw. It also would have been helpful to describe how you are actually applying the trowel to the surface (i.e. leading edge, flat, etc). You can't actually see this in the video.
Leah, finding this video is a lifesaver! The repair looks like exactly what I need to do. The wall you are doing in this video looks like a duplicate of my wall! I have never done this before but I'm willing to give it a good DIY try. You recommended to someone to go to a building supply store, which I plan to do. I'm just not sure exactly what materials I need for the plaster mix. Would you recommend I take a sample from my wall to the store? I have a piece of the wall cut out by a plumber. Or can you tell me what products you mixed and the ratio of plaster/water/sand? Thank you so very much for this video and information!!
Great video! Thank you. Has anyone tried the same method with joint compound (not fast drying)? I’m no professional, but the concept should be the same right? I’m trying to create short cuts with materials I have already for repairing a water damaged drywall ceiling seem.
In the union they teach to you to tape all seems because buildings swell and contract due to weather, plaster or joint compound. The glue in all purpose or topping moves with the house as the weather changes, plaster is similar to durabond witch doesn't move with the house.Plaster has a known tendency to crack(spider cracks) so wouldnt this increase the chance of your seems popping even with the dated plaster bond(i.e. Spider cracks) sooner than if you taped it?
It mostly depends on the plaster systems and circumstances whether you tape. For example on one and two coat veneer plasters over gypsum panels you would tape because that particular system requires joints to be taped. However, in three coat systems like those over wooden lathe, plaster lathe, red tile brick, diamond mesh lathe etc. tape is not required. The circumstances which allow tape not to be used is when patching a plaster hole and "keying" is sufficient. You could use tape when patching, but it will interfere when you are applying your finish coat because it is not applied directly to the blue board (gypsum panels,) as in new work, but is sandwiched between layers of plaster instead. Plaster is not drywall.
I'm new to working with plaster, just curious can you put a different texture on top of a sand swirl plaster? Or do you need to sand it down smooth some how first?
My entire house has swirled plaster walls. I can fix the plaster, but I have no idea how to do the swirl maneuver to make it pretty instead of smooth. But that's why I'm here watching this.
Hi Leah. We have a home that needs the walls patched and match the sand swirl texture. Question: did you use true plaster or something else here? I saw your other video on differences between joint compound and plaster. Would Durabond 90 work? We're having trouble locating a bag of plaster. Does Durabond require the plasterweld too? Thanks for your answers in advance.
You need Norfolk veneer wich has a little sand in it or diamond finish plaster (has no sand whatsoever, the applicator must add silica sand to the mix. Like they said, this is an art, which it takes time to learn..some textures has more sand than others. For me, by experience I’ll look at the wall to be repair and use my best judgment the amount of sand I have to add to the mix to get the best matching texture. Other tips are; when mixing the plaster, don’t make it so loose that falls off you tools during the application. If possible Use 3M cellulose sponge to create the texture, they are 7”x4”, they are the best. Also tape the joint with fiberglass mesh tape of course before applying the plaster. There are so many tricks to this trade.I just mention a few.. hopefully will help you.
@@kiddkidd2897 yeah, but all I could find was the sand home Depot offered. I did the swirl with the mud and added the sand in the paint. I got it pretty close..
@@milkman44107 okay thanks. I'm going to try it this weekend. I don't even know how much sand to add or anything. The steps look simple but it's the materials I have no idea how much
@@kiddkidd2897 That sand is over in the paint department. Just a tip if you add too much sand in the paint. I actually found Menards had a larger selection of fine to course grit. As far as how much. I put a little paint into a disposable cup. Then would try different quantities. I thought I had it close. Well after I painted the wall it was waaay too much sand mixed in. So after the paint dried I sanded it down slightly with some medium sandpaper. Then just took a new roller with some clean paint and went over it again applying it with a nice thick coat.. By the time that dried it looked well matched.
Ok so I have a question, I often have to patch walls that are around 90 years old, and they have a sand texture but it seems to be about 2x more coarse than a sandPatch that I can get at say Home Depot. So can I just find a similar diameter sand and mix it into a mud? I had suitable results using the premixed sand texture, but it was definitely not matching the original and it seemed like the grit was too fine.
Hi Doc, what I would suggest is that you go to a building supply store that specializes in masonry and plaster. They will sell different grits of sand, so you can try to match the one you have, and then you can mix it into any plaster.
Even tho I live in a metro area in the midwest, unless I want to buy an entire bundle of blueboard, it is just not available in our area. So you have to resort to drywall and PVA.....
Thank you for explaining this so well! The swirl ceiling is throughout our house and there are several cracks I need to repair. Glad to finally find someone who truly knows what they are doing.
Perfect timing, I have to repair my parents bathroom drywall and this is the perfect video. You are such an amazing teacher and a lovely person. I am grateful that you chose to share your knowledge.
thanks, Linda, nice to hear from you again!
I'm having all my polybutylene plumbing replaced in my whole house as I speak right now. I will be doing the drywall myself and I find your videos to be the most informative and easy to follow. Thank you so much for taking the time to put these out, you are greatly appreciated.
you're welcome, Michelle! I'm glad to be of help
What Bonding agent did you use? What plaster and how much sand? This looks so easy and super helpful just need the materials list! Thanks you so much!!
You are GREAT. A real life saver. You've taught me so much over the years! Yet again, I've watched this video and now I'm ready to patch some walls....
Thanks so much!
You’re a great teacher! Thank you for this video!
This is what I like! I'm obsessed with making a patch look as if it isn't there. Plastering is such an amazing skill. Wallboard compound is more versatile maybe, but plaster, like concrete, has so much more possible character and durability.
Hey Max, I agree! :)
this is terrific! No one who has had to work on my walls can replicate this. So I am going to give it a shot. Thanks!
Thank you. I appreciate this. I've got a 1920's craftsman and it was a pain to find a video on finishing/repairing sand plaster. I've got some spots on the ceiling that need this.
Thank you Leah. Older video but still very useful. I have a house built in the mid 90's and it has this finish/pattern on every wall and ceiling so I need to know how to patch. Great video.
As always you are very professional, I'm a retired general contractor, doing on the side drywalling and painting, you bring back a lot, and again I learn from them, Thank you.
you're welcome, Robert, and thanks very much for your comments!
Thank you for this video! This seems to be a pattern that was more popular with older construction, vs the new popcorn style you see everywhere. You helped me replace several damaged spots from a water line break
This is exactly what I needed! Thank you so much for the thorough explanation.
Thank you. I use a small broom. Works decently. But you taught this old painter dog a new trick
I love your videos! I'm a plumber and it's great to see the tricks of other trades, thanks for this post!
Great work! I do repair work on many homes, and while I've patched a lot of drywall, I have not tried sand finish plaster. Thanks for breaking this down and explaining the steps. There aren't many videos out for this topic.
you're very welcome, and thanks for commenting!!
Once again beautiful work.
thank you, Daniel!
I really love your tips. To the point and easy to understand. Thanks again.
you're welcome, nice to hear from you again! :)
Just did this in my bathroom to fix the ceiling. I used blue board which was what the house was constructed of. A large brush worked well to match the existing swirl pattern we had. We were really worried about doing it but after watching this video and making the attempt we cant even tell where the patch was (24x36). Worked great. THanks!!
fantastic, you did it. Way to go! :)
THANKS!! Ya we were worried about it matching but we took the time to feather it in ... no worries!
Which plaster product did you use?
I am so happy I happing across your videos, Thank you.
My pleasure
I had no idea the swirls were achieved with a sponge. Thanks!
Thanks, Leah. I've been trying to figure out how this was done. You rock! You have given me the confidence to take on projects that I wouldn't have done before.
you're very welcome, Janis, and good luck with your projects!
Wish I had watched this from the start of my repairs...
Dysfunctional family = 37 total holes in the drywall I've undertaken the effort to patch... I already slathered on gallons of joint compound and figured I'd sand all the walls down/remove the finish from the entire space, cause I didn't think I'd be able to match the pattern.
Great video. Heading off to do this right now, but with mud and drywall.
I’ve been looking for this exact tutorial. Thank you!
This was so helpful! I had no idea how to fix this! Step by step instructions! Thank you!!
GOOD JOB !!!! I am thinking about a repair soon ...Thanks for the help.
Thanks very much for the info. Your helpful thoughts and words are appreciated.
you're very welcome, Andy!
awesome video. greatly explained and very helpful.
Thanks for the upload
Excellent instructions, please include a shopping list thanks
Great video. showed me exactly what I needed to know. Thank you.
I was pleasantly surprised by this video.
Hey Leah, is silica sand the only sand you should use for this? If so where do you purchase it and what grit? Thanks!
Thank you so much for helping me do my open space project
Excellent tutorial - thanks for posting.
you are an artist! you rock! i see Leah rockin'
It is nice to see how you did that after applying the plaster. I could do that also and have to remember this video.
Hi Sidney, thanks! Hope you are having a good summer so far.
I am back to normal now, but had a problem last week with walking after coming back from one A/C business, looking for a replacement unit. I was also having problems with talking correctly also, but that is over now. I just have to take it easy the rest of the Summer while working outside in the heat.
Glad to hear you are feeling better. Take it easy in that heat!
Wow, spectacular video!
materials used? That would be super helpful. Thanks!
Awesome video. Great verbal explanations.
What kind of plaster do you use for the sand swirl finish, a base plaster or a finish plaster, also what brand?
veener diamond plaster
mixed with Rhine stone
@@jarin12ga How do you know that’s what was used?
This is a very good question. It’s all I want to know, too.
@@mcadaal Because I've been doing plaster and drywall for 22 years. That's normally what they use.
@@jarin12ga So where do you get rhine stone?
Great demo for a guy like me! Thank you so very much!
you're very welcome!
Thank you for the great information you really know your stuff
This is a very good tutorial . Thank you.
Good job sweet heart. Basic and simple. Good video.
What’s the product name for the plaster? I have same wall that I’m trying to fix. Thanks, Jane.
Great job. I’m off to match up some swirls!!
A couple of questions. I have a swirl pattern ceiling like this that has a small area where the finish bubbled up a cracked after suffering a water leak from upstairs 2 years ago. It dried and seemed fine until a couple of weeks ago. Looks more like joint compound was used instead of plaster. I have scraped and sanded. I see no evidence of the white part of drywall, looks more like the backside, brown paper.
1. Is it more likely that the original finish was joint compound since it flaked off?
2. What product do you recommend to prep the paper so that I get good adhesion of joint compound to ceiling?
I’m assuming I can swirl pattern joint compound the same way you did with the plaster.
Great videos! Some of the best out there.
Thanks.
Leah... You Rock!
This is so great, thank you!
Thank you
Hey this video helped me today. Thank you soo much
GREAT instruction style.
Thank so much for your great details video
After the repair, do you prime the wall before two coats of paint?
Just use Durabond
Do you have any problems with the joints cracking I noticed you didn't tape them? Looks great.
Great job! I love your channel.
Helpful video but some important steps left out like how to actually "taper the edge" or "feather the edge" and how much silica sand did you use? TrueValue hardware stores sell those exact floats btw. It also would have been helpful to describe how you are actually applying the trowel to the surface (i.e. leading edge, flat, etc). You can't actually see this in the video.
Leah, finding this video is a lifesaver! The repair looks like exactly what I need to do. The wall you are doing in this video looks like a duplicate of my wall! I have never done this before but I'm willing to give it a good DIY try. You recommended to someone to go to a building supply store, which I plan to do. I'm just not sure exactly what materials I need for the plaster mix. Would you recommend I take a sample from my wall to the store? I have a piece of the wall cut out by a plumber. Or can you tell me what products you mixed and the ratio of plaster/water/sand? Thank you so very much for this video and information!!
awesome lesson-thanks!!
That was a very helpful video, thanks!!!
you're welcome, Mark!
Very informative thank you
you're very welcome!
Thanks Jane
🙏🙏🙏🙏thanks I needed this video!!!!
Great video! Thank you. Has anyone tried the same method with joint compound (not fast drying)? I’m no professional, but the concept should be the same right? I’m trying to create short cuts with materials I have already for repairing a water damaged drywall ceiling seem.
That was great! Please show how to use the float some time
thanks, I will!
Thank you for the thorough explanation. First video of yours I've seen. Sub'd, and I don't sub often. ;)
What kind and size of silica sand did you use?
It kind of makes me mad how easy you make this look. Great video. Very helpful!
In the union they teach to you to tape all seems because buildings swell and contract due to weather, plaster or joint compound. The glue in all purpose or topping moves with the house as the weather changes, plaster is similar to durabond witch doesn't move with the house.Plaster has a known tendency to crack(spider cracks) so wouldnt this increase the chance of your seems popping even with the dated plaster bond(i.e. Spider cracks) sooner than if you taped it?
Hey Tyler, it depends. For this particular application, you wouldn't want to tape.
Tyler Hupp yes it would crack, it needs to be taped
It mostly depends on the plaster systems and circumstances whether you tape. For example on one and two coat veneer plasters over gypsum panels you would tape because that particular system requires joints to be taped. However, in three coat systems like those over wooden lathe, plaster lathe, red tile brick, diamond mesh lathe etc. tape is not required. The circumstances which allow tape not to be used is when patching a plaster hole and "keying" is sufficient. You could use tape when patching, but it will interfere when you are applying your finish coat because it is not applied directly to the blue board (gypsum panels,) as in new work, but is sandwiched between layers of plaster instead. Plaster is not drywall.
So, you don't need to tape the joints? guess not. Great technique Thanks for shearing .
you're welcome, and thanks!
Thanks Leah, big help... Thumbs up...
you're welcome, and thanks!
Perfection! Thumbs up!!
thanks, Peter!
well done. thank you !!!
As always thanks Leah! Would the same apply to stucco patches also...?
I'm new to working with plaster, just curious can you put a different texture on top of a sand swirl plaster? Or do you need to sand it down smooth some how first?
My entire house has swirled plaster walls. I can fix the plaster, but I have no idea how to do the swirl maneuver to make it pretty instead of smooth. But that's why I'm here watching this.
as usual u always make it seem easy :)
thanks, Neil! :)
So when you repair an area like you just did and paint do you have to paint the whole ceiling and if not what paint would match ?
Hey Leah! I have to do a whole ceiling this way. Is there anything I need to know for bigger tasks?? Thanks!
Tips for painting over plaster that has the green on the surface?
Hi Leah. We have a home that needs the walls patched and match the sand swirl texture. Question: did you use true plaster or something else here? I saw your other video on differences between joint compound and plaster. Would Durabond 90 work? We're having trouble locating a bag of plaster. Does Durabond require the plasterweld too? Thanks for your answers in advance.
how much sand to how much plaster ?
id you ever get the materials and do this?
So it’s not necessary to tape the joints? Thanks
Found it! Thank you.. When does your class start
Tomorrow
hey Leah i was wondering is there any other sand i can use beside Silica sand to repair my sand swirl ceiling ?
thank you!
how much silica sand do you use to plaster and can you use regular sand?
can someone PLEASE list exact materials (plaster, sand to add etc)?
You need Norfolk veneer wich has a little sand in it or diamond finish plaster (has no sand whatsoever, the applicator must add silica sand to the mix. Like they said, this is an art, which it takes time to learn..some textures has more sand than others. For me, by experience I’ll look at the wall to be repair and use my best judgment the amount of sand I have to add to the mix to get the best matching texture. Other tips are; when mixing the plaster, don’t make it so loose that falls off you tools during the application. If possible Use 3M cellulose sponge to create the texture, they are 7”x4”, they are the best. Also tape the joint with fiberglass mesh tape of course before applying the plaster. There are so many tricks to this trade.I just mention a few.. hopefully will help you.
love this!
thanks!
what is the board that you patched the hole with? ordinary sheetrock?
Can you use hot mud for this patch?
What plaster did you use? Thanks
I can't find Veneer diamond plaster or Rhine Stone anywhere locally. What else would you recommend?
did you ever get the materials and do this?
@@kiddkidd2897 yeah, but all I could find was the sand home Depot offered. I did the swirl with the mud and added the sand in the paint. I got it pretty close..
@@milkman44107 okay thanks. I'm going to try it this weekend. I don't even know how much sand to add or anything. The steps look simple but it's the materials I have no idea how much
@@kiddkidd2897 That sand is over in the paint department. Just a tip if you add too much sand in the paint. I actually found Menards had a larger selection of fine to course grit. As far as how much. I put a little paint into a disposable cup. Then would try different quantities. I thought I had it close. Well after I painted the wall it was waaay too much sand mixed in. So after the paint dried I sanded it down slightly with some medium sandpaper. Then just took a new roller with some clean paint and went over it again applying it with a nice thick coat.. By the time that dried it looked well matched.
She never mentioned Veneer diamond plaster or Rhine stone.
What is your mix for the plaster. Ty in advance.
Is Kilz3 Primer an adequate bonding agent?
Ok so I have a question, I often have to patch walls that are around 90 years old, and they have a sand texture but it seems to be about 2x more coarse than a sandPatch that I can get at say Home Depot. So can I just find a similar diameter sand and mix it into a mud? I had suitable results using the premixed sand texture, but it was definitely not matching the original and it seemed like the grit was too fine.
Hi Doc, what I would suggest is that you go to a building supply store that specializes in masonry and plaster. They will sell different grits of sand, so you can try to match the one you have, and then you can mix it into any plaster.
You are awesome.
thanks very much!
Great Video but question, Why didnt you just use a piece of blueboard made for plaster? wouldent need the bonding agent etc, but nice job !
Even tho I live in a metro area in the midwest, unless I want to buy an entire bundle of blueboard, it is just not available in our area. So you have to resort to drywall and PVA.....
You cant buy just one sheet? you can only get blueboard by the bundle? that sounds crazy
Acually I would have just used easy sand 20 or durabond 45 and be done with this repair in 15 minutes