British Couple Reacts to America Stole A German Submarine And Stuck It In Chicago
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- British Couple Reacts to America Stole A German Submarine And Stuck It In Chicago
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As a Polish-American, I love the part of the story about the conscripted Pole helping out, and then we tow it the home of lots of Polish immigrants as a souvenir.
As a kid, in the 1950's, I remember our family driving along Lake Shore Drive, in Chicago, in the early morning hours. And there it was...a MASSIVE submarine.... hauled up on the beach. How in the world they were able to move it to the museum is beyond me. In later years I visited the sub many times.
I was a little kid (now 77) when they winched it across Lake Shore Drive and finally displayed it outside for many years. A few years ago they expanded the museums underground displays and moved it inside (underground) where it resides today. There are also some other outdoor displays now residing indoors (out of Chicago's weird weather.
@@patrickchambers5999 I saw it outside as a kid, and then brought my son to see it after it had been moved inside. It's a beautiful display and a hundred times better than when it was outside, it was necessary to move it inside because of the weather. For anyone taking the tour, you can see the holes in the supports between the outer hull and the pressure hull due to rust.
@@77mariolandseeing it inside is real impressive you turn a corner and there is a giant sub just sitting there it makes you feel small let me tell ya
@@sarachoate88 The lighting and the way the sub is facing while also a torpedo is looking like it's coming out of the front of the sub, it is pretty cool.
The Museum of S&I also had a Titanic display for a while, there was a piece of the hull and a recreation of the deck... I'm telling you when you walk through a door out on to the "deck", for a moment you think you just walked out on to the deck of the Titanic. You are hit with cold air, you look down the deck... they placed mirrors so it looks like it curves out into the distance. Over the railing there was a star field that had an accurate recreation of what the stars looked like on that night. For a moment while your mind was trying to figure out what was going on, you were on the deck of the Titanic. It was amazing, no roller coaster or amusement park ride gave me a feeling like it.
The Brits seized two subs. The first was U-110. The second was taken back to the UK. The Brits destroyed both after performing what is called today as foreign material exploitation. This was critical to understanding the strengths and weaknesses of the Type IX U-boat.
True story about this sub: In the fall of 1993 I took a tour of the U505 at the Museum of Science and Industry (very cool). In the middle of the tour some middle-aged guy with a New York accent breaks away from the tour and begins walking around the U505 with his eyes closed while counting his steps and knocking into things. All of us looked at him like he was nuts. My brother thought he might be some sort of psychic or ghost hunter but the tour guide just said "oh yeah...he's been coming here a lot this week doing that...just ignore him". 😮
Flash forward about 10 years and the next time I see the face of that weird New York dude is on the back cover of a book called "Shadow Divers" (and later as a host on the Discovery Channel). HIs name was Richard Kohler and unbeknownst to the entire world he and a small dive team had secretly discovered the U869 sunken off the coast of New Jersey. It was the exact same type of German sub as the U505...so what he was doing was learning to navigate the sub as if he was underwater in the dark all that time 10 years ago...and we just thought he was crazy. 😂
Just because he was doing something legitimate, doesn't rule out the possibility of him being crazy. The two are not mutually exclusive!
That kind of job where a small mistake can cost your life is a bit crazy. Nerves of steel. @@bobprivate8575
@@bobprivate8575 All wreck divers are a little crazy 😅
@@lionelhutz3142not as bad as cave divers 😂
Almost every school kid in Chicago has visited and taken the tour of this ship on what we call ‘field trips’ organized by your school.
Of course, the POW camp in Louisiana has long been abandoned. We used to go in there for target practice. They had an olympic sized pool among other amenities. Many of the German POWs liked the area so much, they decided to stay after the war.
That sounds about right.
Not to mention a bunch of those German ended up moving to Chicago to help take care of the exhibit.
As a life long resident of the Chicago area I'm very familiar with the U-505 and it's story. It is known that of the 3 branches of the German military the U boat service has the highest death rate. Over 75% of all U boat sailors who went out on a patrol didn't come back.
You two can go to Chicago to see the submarine, eat some pizza, and visit Lawrence and his wife!
And don't forget the coal mine tour at the same museum.
I visited the sub in the 1970’s after they built a building around it, the curiosity overwhelmed my claustrophobia.
Though I never got the hang of driving a stick shift (manual) car, I did learn that you can sometimes start the car if the battery is dead by pushing it until the motor turns over. That's basically what they did to a SUBMARINE. Just crazy. And brilliant.
Hey guys, I was born and raised about 20 minutes away from the museum, and I've gone to see this sub over 10 times throughout my life, and I absolutely love it every time. If you're ever in my neck of the woods, i HIGHLY recommend a visit to the Science and Indestry Museum.
Bletchley park had enigma and were breaking their codes. So stealing this sub caused panic in the higher commands. Because if the German found out we had this sub they would know we had their codes.
In Chicago, you can get a full tour of the sub, and the enigma machine is there as well.
Fun fact! The United States was one of the first (if not the first) to use “submarines” in combat. During the American Civil War the Confederates used underwater vessels to smash into Union ships, blockading the South of recourses and commerce. The first successful attack was in 1861 by the Confederate H.L Hunley.
Successful is questionable. Usually successful means the crew and vessel makes it back.
Earlier than that, the first military submarine was used by the Americans in 1776 during the Revolutionary War. Unfortunately the "Turtle" failed in its mission to sink a British warship
@@KNETTWERX Actually it was a successful mission those men knew it was a one way mission or a very high probability
Wasn't the civil war the first use of iron clad vessels
@@user-nr5ux7gr2g I believe so, yes.
I served in the US Navy for 10 years. My boot camp & initial school was in Great Lakes north of Chicago. During school, if we did not have duty, we would go into the city. At that time, U505 was outdoors, exposed to the elements.
I’ve gone to this museum twice and saw the u-boat with my kids on school field trips. I’ve also gone the the maritime museum in Manitiwoc Wi, and saw the USS Cobia with my kids.
Visited it a couple times in the 80s.
My dad went into the Navy at 16 (grandfather filled out a fake birth certificate) in the late 40s and his boot was Great Lakes winter tour. He stayed for 20 years as a “tin can” man.
Growing up in Chicagoland, I can’t tell you how many times I’ve seen this U505 on school field trips.
I've toured that ship quite a few times over the years. It's in its own building. Don't miss it when in Chicago. It's in the most interesting museum you can imagine.
Should always play his videos till the end. A- Sometimes there is bonus footage. B- So people know where to check out his merch. I enjoy your reacts to TFE videos, you got a new sub.
The whole moving the sub to Chicago is interesting in and of itself!
Ive been in the 505, its really incredible to see and you would be amazed at how small it is and then consider that 50 people where in it at one time.
I feel you two would really like his video on Sergeant Reckless America's war horse an amazing story on America's four legged hero
Wish he would do a video on sgt stubby
We lived just north of Chicago when I was growing up. Our school went on field trips to the museum of science and industry all the time. Don’t know how many times I’ve been on that sub. It’s really cool 😁
I've been through 505 twice, first in December of 93, and then on a school field trip in 99! It's an experience you'll never forget!
There is a (I believe) a Japanese Submarine at the Chester Nimitz Museum in Fredericksburg, Texas on display.
Chicago deep dish Pizza is the best. Growing up outside of Chicago near the ( Home Alone House ) as a kid I went inside the 505 many times. Very cool. They had to lift the sub out of the water to get it across a busy highway to put it in the museum. It wasn't easy to do. Forget New York, you guys have to see Chicago. !!!!!!!
The 505 is now on display at the Chicago Museum Science and industry. There's a charge to tour it.
Unfortunately, it was closed for restoration when I was in Chicago, but I got to see a mock-up of part of the inside and saw the outside of it from a hallway window.
I have been to the Museum of Science and Industry at least 20 times and have never toured it. Nor have I been in the coal mine.
@@howardjohnson8831the coal mine is an interesting experience but could use some TLC.
I mean, you can always call him Nic. Since that's his name.
He's not a bad seeming guy despite living downwind from Minnesota.
As an Iowan know I hate you.
I'm assuming you mean Iowa? I've heard that's where he's from (including myself lol)
@@the_dog_says_moo Iowa isn't bad for discount Kansas.
You mean bad weather California with the mosquitos? (It is from the Liquid Death video of his on the Fat Files page...)
Or... just use his real title: "Chubby electron guy" 😂
The Science and Industry Museum is my favorite place in Chicago. The Art Institute & then Shedd Aquarium are my top 3 😊
There was a book written by a German u- boat veteran who served on this very same sub. He became a u.s. citizen and learned of its display in Chicago. He became a volunteer and maybe a museum employee (?) at the museum giving guided tours of that same sub he served upon!
Grew up in the Chicagoland area and of course, you had to visit the Museum of Science and Industry museum and one of the biggest part was visiting the sub.
There's a video (or a couple) of them moving the submarine to the museum the first time. And also videos of them moving it into the basement when they built a new display for it.
The sub is a great thing to go through. Its a big submarine but so incredibly tight on the inside. It was definitely easier to go through as a kid at 10 rather than, like me, 6'6" 240lbs.🙄
The Museum of Science & Industry likes taking on challenges. I remember them having a Boeing 727 that was being decommissioned flown into Meigs Field on the Chicago lakefront (in 1992) and then transported to the museum for display. That airport had quite a short runway, definitely not intended to accommodate a Boeing 727. But a skilled pilot landed the plane just fine. The airplane remains on display at the museum to this day.
I grew up in a suburb of Chicago called Hinsdale. The private school I attended would take field trips to The Museum of Science and Industry. Over all the years (32 years) I lived in the suburban Chicago area I was in the U505 many times. In that era it was always on a section of lawn. You could look through the periscope, which I did many times playing submarine captain. In 1987 I moved to Kerr Lake, in North Carolina, and one of my neighbors turned out to be one of the American Navy crew that went with the U505 on it's bond tour drives. He had a lot of interesting stories about it and enjoyed telling them to someone who had been in the U505 as many times as I had been.
My uncle was on one of the ships involved in the capture of the German submarine. My other uncle was on the USS Bunker Hill when it was hit by a kamikaze.
It is very cool to see and even go inside for a tour
You've got two options when your out at sea in a submarine and you've been damaged. Fight to the last breath or surface and hope for the best. The "hope for the best" was usually one of three things. 1. you're getting on life rafts and surrendering to the hostile ships that are clearly nearby and possibly surviving the whole ordeal. 2. you get on life rafts, the hostile ships leave you for dead, but friendly ships swing by soon after and rescue you. 3. you're on those rafts, the enemy has split and your friendlies are too busy to get you or you didn't send out an SOS and you really have been left for dead. I mean you need to realize these life boats are things with paddles, not motors or sails. You're quite literally in a row boat in the ocean back then which, in the Atlantic, is only marginally better than having your cruise-fling hogging an entire piece of flotsam to herself spouting empty promises while you freeze to death.
I have been to the museum of science and industry many times and I have been inside of that submarine and it is truly remarkable. Everything is in German and if you are claustrophobic it is not a good idea to go inside. I never knew the whole story about it but now that I do I am honored that I was able to go inside after what my fellow Americans went through to get it here.
Hey guys The Britts Try channel flew down to New Orleans to try Biscuits and Gravy there. The new video just came out today. I mention it cause you had them on the other day.
Main reason for the photographer is for documentation. They want to have pics of as much as they can, if for no other reason than that they might lose the sub trying to get it back to port, and the pictures might be all they had.
Also, why would the Germans be "fuming" if AFTER the Germans surrendered, the USA sent a captured U-Boat built by the Nazis on a war bond tour around the USA? Why would they care what we do with an object they have no use for?
You'd kind of need a sense of humor to understand why the germans would be "fuming" It was a comical joke, and parading around the U Boat is kind of like parading around a dead soldier in the streets, even if the war is over, it's disrespectful. That's where the joke comes in.
@@Cramblit Except the Germans did not even know it was happening...only a tiny few would have been in the know. These two are lovely folks, but he does not know enough about history to make the joke clever...he just made a false assumption.
But you are really nice for trying to defend him. LOL
@@iKvetch558 Dude you're reading way too much into a joke lol
@@iKvetch558Was only noticed in Germany when the movie "Das Boot" was being filmed and the crew went to Chicago to take pictures.
@@Cramblit YT deleted my response, so let's see if they let this stay up.
The fact that you commented in the first place clearly indicates that you are the one reading too much into things by looking for some super clever joke in what is clearly just a simple and honest mistake.
Everything in a submarine engine room written in a foreign language , figuring out whitch knobs to pull, which cranks to turn , forget buttons they werent invented yet lol
I was born and raised in Milwaukee, Wisconsin and Chicago is only 90 miles away. I toured that sub a few times during visits to Chicago.
I actually slept inside the sub one year with the cub scouts, we got to stay overnight in the museum and we won a raffle to get to sleep inside it
The 2nd largest fleet is American museum ships. Complete with carriers destroyer's, cruisers, battleships, submarines. And God bless old ironsides. USS Constitution. We love our boats.
Retire a battleship and it will end up in the state it was named after.
Beesleys, you have to watch all the way through the credits. Sometimes he has post credit scenes
A town i lived in in NJ had a POW camp. The Germans were allowed to leave camp to help with menial jobs. Many did not go back to Germany, marrying the local girls.
U-505 was so much fun to see as a little kid. If you ever make it to Chicago definitely save time to visit the Museum of Science and Industry. Next to the Smithsonian museums, that's one of the best around.
The German sailors usually were picked up by the American ships, taken to an American POW camp and survived the rest of the war getting treated relatively well for the remainder of the war.
I have been in that sub! It is amazingly small inside!
Great video is always hope you are doing good You guys have a blessed day and may God bless you
I seen this sub and toured it at the Museum of Science and Industry in Chicago when I was a kid.
When the sub was going to go to the museum a good part of its internal components had been removed for one reason or another. So the museum tried to find replacements. The companies that had made said parts were still around, denazified of course, and donated all the parts to bring the submarine back up to perfect order.
Also the allied forces usually would try and grab the survivors of enemy ships out of the water… because its a warcrime not to or at least I think it is.
The prisoner of war camp for German submarine guys was in Windsor California.
The St Lawrence Seaway was started in 1954. Remember reading about it in "My Weekly Reader"!
I had forgotten that little magazine untill you mentioned it-great little publication ! Thanks for the memories.
Many submariners who got to the surface and were not in a storm or lost life rafts survived because they were taken POW by the other side.
I live not far from Chicago, so I can see it pretty easily. I had the pleasure of walking through that submarine when I was a kid, but I never knew its full story. You should definitely check it out.
I live about 90 miles from Chicago and when I was in grade school we would take field trips to the Museum of Science and Industry and remember touring the U505 on multiple occasions also at the Museum at that time they had/have a Coal Mine that you can get a tour of the last time I was at the Museum was about 12 years ago and at that time they had a largish display of Railroad equipment
I believe the Hedgehog was designed by the Brits and was widely adopted as it was very effective. The charges would not detonate unless they scored a hit while depth charges would go off at a pre-set depth and this detonation would cause massive shock waves that would disrupt the sonar used by the attacking ship until they subsided. This could give the sub a chance to escape due to the background noise of the charge. If a Hedgehog round detonated, it had scored a hit and at least damaged the enemy sub and also gave the ship a good idea of the subs exact location for follow up attacks
Getting the sub to the museum was not as hard has Nick makes it sound. They sailed the sub thru the St. Lawrence Sea Way to the port of Chicago. The over-land trek was only from the port to the museum. Still an impressive trip though.
Chicago is connected by water to the Atlantic ocean Via the Great lakes and the St Laurence river.
The captain was going to be court martialed because he was supposed to sink the sub and they had already broken the enigma code and us high command worried that if the germans found out one of their subs had been captured they would change the enigma code.
The survival rate among U-boat crews was 25% or so. I remember reading somewhere that 30,000 out of 40,000 U-boat sailors perished.
Be sure to check out some of those museum ships when you're over here
If the boat sank you still had pictures, the whole point was to know their technology
I would say once the submarine crew was in the life rafts they are now considered "giving up" and that as long as they didn't fire upon the US ships, they would be taken aboard a US ship as a POW. I don't think it was "legal" to just fire upon a life raft that wasn't firing upon you.
The US also tried to steal a Soviet Submarine during the Cold War under the name project Azorian. They built a specialized ship that scooped up the submarine (it sunk previously), and of course had the Soviet crew still onboard (deceased). I think there is a youtube video about it but it would be best if the Fat Electrian told this story since it's another crazy one.
Howard Hughes funded the specialized ship as a "reasearch" vessel
The Glomar Explorer
I wonder if those German Sailers were the ones who were interred at the Portsmouth Naval Prision in New Hampshire during World War 2.
Just watch "U-571" (2000) its a great movie and is basically this story with less support and extra drama tossed in.
I've went through that thing a long time ago. Even as kid it was pretty cramped in there.
I live about 40 miles from where they mayke the hulls of the US submarines. My brother in law was head engineer in developing the Seawolf class subs. Only made 3 because they were $$$$$. But they are CD the best submarines made. Tom (my BIL) kept the workings of the submarine to his grave this past September. Submariners are a very special naval seaman. I hope Fat Electrician does something about the Seabees... they were the guys who loaded "cargo " onto destroyers. They also were the first ones off the boat bvb to provide access to a beachhead. Their home was here in Rhode Island in Quonset point. Home of the fighting Seabees. Look up a photo of a Quonset hut. They are ubiquitous here in the North East.
" Pics , or it didn't happen" has been one of the most successful CIA operations on social media.
IVe been inside this submarine!
And that Museum is My All time Favorite!
Most Fun Museum In USA
(Sweet Home Chicago)
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I know he jokes about the photographer boarding on a dangerous mission but if they cant save the sub and it starts to sink, pictures would tell to intelligence agencies quite a bit. Assuming the photographer or his photos were able to get out before it sank. Lol
One CAN get good submarine sandwiches in Chicago
What he failed to mention was Commander/Admiral Galloway got WWII's worst most top secret ass-chewing over this operation. He had, all the task force commanders had, Standing Orders NOT to try and board German U-Boats.
When he was finally before his commander, he said, "Well, now we have their codes." His commander then let him in in the secret: "You dumb sonnova bitch," (obviously, I paraphrase), "we ALREADY HAD THEIR CODES!!!!"
This operation was the third time the Nazi Enigma machine was compromised (as I understand it, and this isn't counting Alan Turing) and they were a tad worried about the Reich discovering, as Harry Potter would say, "the flaw in the plan".
The Hedgehog that the Americans were using was an British invention.
So first: The photographer was there to take pictures of the sub as a means of gathering intel about it should it not be salvageable. Second: In the Atlantic theater of war it was fairly common to either save men in the water and take them prisoner OR, if the ship would stay afloat for long enough for their own side to reach them, to leave them provisions to help them survive until that time. That's the maritime code of conduct, duty to provide assistance at sea. Most countries have it on their books.
I took the tour of the 505,it is very cramped
I live in the Chicago land area. My father in law use to be a tour guide on 505. I have some paperwork and pics of that sub. I would love to show you guys what I have. It’s really cool. I just have no way to send pics to you all. lol. I’ve been on it also. It’s really cool.
They made a movie about a similar situation called U571. It's a great movie with Matthew McConaughey, Harvey Keitel, David Keith and many more. You should review it.
unless they closed it you could walk through it from torpedo room to torpedo room it has 2, 1 front and 1 back, I went through it in 72 on a school trip.
Been waiting for this reaction!
The photographer was to get pictures of code book pages, ultra settings, radio frequencies and any manuals in case it started sinking before the exploitation was done
I did not know that. Thanks.
They probably blew the screen doors off the sub. You brought it up long ago lol
Doesn't Chicago have access to the Atlantic through the Great Lakes via the St.Lawrence river? I thought that was the point of digging the canal.
Yes, and they used it, from what I understand.
I toured that boat in 1991 and thought was cool, like an archeological find until i came to the galley and saw the cooking griddles. That really hit home. Nazis cooked on that boat. Whoa!
Honestly, for a trip to America, the Great Lakes region isn't the worst choice, ajd it encapsulates Chicago, which has tons and tons of history, and amazing food. Be sure you plan everything in advance and do not deviate from the plan. Chicago is still Gang Land in some areas, despite growing as a tourist destination.
A great thing about this story is that Chicago is a city with a HUGE Polish American population. It's only fair after a Pole saved it.
This was the video that introduced me to TFE. Glad you reacted to it.
Camera man never dies..
I would probaby have deserted had I been a sailor and my commander told me to go on that sub....I would have been so anxious I would have blown us all up. Thank goodness for those brave souls and what they did and kudos to their Commander;
The US armed forces are notorious for their ingenuity in combat. Check out some of videos on how the various units approached the hedgerow situation in France.
Great video guys
I visited the 505 in Chicago back in 2000. This was before it was brought inside. Interesting tour but the teenager giving the tour was more concerned about getting the tour over with than letting us look around. As subs go I served on one Nuc Fast Attack and one WW II era US diesel sub. The German was far smaller than than the US WW II sub.
I swear a video about German POW trip to Louisiana. It had be dept secret because the submarines was to be kept secret. The CZcams video talked about their down to Louisiana
. It also mentioned that the prisoners were taught how to play baseball.
I've been on the U-505. Its an amazing thing to see. Not far north of that in Manitowoc, WI, there is an American sub that you can tour as well. Something to consider when planning your US trip.
People that lived thru this time zone were just different breeds of humans than in 2024
I've been in that sub back in the 90's...I never knew the story behind it.
The last I knew, the admission price to the Museum of Science and Industry did not include access to this submarine as well as a couple of other attractions in the museum. The submarine and a few other sections are an extra fee to see.
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