British Couple Reacts to The Infamous Eager Beavers & Their Custom B17 Bomber - Old 666!
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- British Couple Reacts to The Infamous Eager Beavers & Their Custom B17 Bomber - Old 666!
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I've always thought this story needed a movie made about it. They earned that. A great movie.
They do. "Masters of the air "is now playing on TV. Tom Hanks was involved in the production. 9 parts . Very good. I'm on part 6 right now.
ol 666 is in the pacific. Masters of the air is in Europe. 8th Air Force in Europe 5th airforce in the pacific.@@PEPPER2323
My only stipulation is that it HAS to be directed by Tarantino lol
20:55 she makes a great point there! A huge part in war isn’t simply killing each other, it’s destroying the ability to even fight. So taking out ammo depots is incredibly important
Can't fight if you've got no ammo, gas, food, etc
And at the same time I can understand command's point of view. Ammo, fuel, you can get more of. Maybe it'll take a while, maybe you don't have any on hand and it'll take a long while to make more and send it over, but you can still get more relatively easily. Admirals and generals, however, with decades of training and education, and at this point years of experience fighting a majour war (successfully, I might add, as the Japanese were "winning" at this point), are irreplaceable. It takes decades to train and educate new admirals and generals, not to mention the years of experience fighting a war successfully that they literally don't have time for because the war is now, with no spare time to sharpen their teeth. Years needed to learn and study what you have, what the enemy has, how your stuff works against their stuff, how the enemy operates, how your side operates, they just don't have.
So while I understand the hesitation of bombing innocent civilians to take out a ton of high ranking people responsible for, at the time, kicking your butts, I can understand why command wanted it done regardless. Not saying 666 or command was right or wrong, just saying I can see where both are coming from.
@@Lt_Voss japan at this point probably already have multiple people who couldve replaced the admiral. So killing the admiral probably wouldve just pissed them off and made them fight harder. Wouldve just been a martyr
This story has been recreated via CGI, in the History Channel's TV series "Dogfights." The episode titled "Long Odds" contains the story of Old 666, complete with audio interviews with Capt. Jay Zeamer.
And now I know what I'm going to be searching for
Thank you 😊
... but without the 'brutal' sarcasm of the CZcams narrative... SORRY, I'm going with the Storybook rather than the CGI
My Uncle was a B 17 pilot . Left England and was shot down over Germany. He jump out and hid four 4 days before being captured and spending the last 6 months of the war in a German prison camp. Did you know that during the war 70,000 British girls married American men? During the war 57,000 crew members were killed in action. The B 17 were built at the Boeing Plant in Wichita , Kansas.
70,000? sounds like a lot of "post graduate work" was going on
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@@alaxbird495470k marriages? That means British women were getting plowed by the boys by the hundreds of thousands. 70k marriages means hundreds of thousands of hookups if not millions. that’s how you build strong diplomatic ties right there
@@alaxbird4954 Lol i see what ya did there! I just can't remember which episode. Was it Dan Daly or Jake McNiece?
Jake
SGT. RECKLESS ! ! ! YOU GOTTA WATCH SARGENT RECKLESS.
Just so you know we Americans invented Hot Rodding.
My buddy used to turn wrecked pickup trucks out of the junkyard into mud racing trucks for the weekend.
It ain't hard to find somebody who's willing to Mad Max their vehicle.
Damn right
You do have musculature surrounding your eyes that can effect your vision. (Squinting to see better etc) so the theory of training those muscles is potentially sound, but not quite correct.
The working your eyes to get stronger so you don't need glasses works if you do it early enough. One of my brothers was prescribed glasses like 30 years ago, he stopped wearing them and hasn't needed glasses since.
Ot is not that, he doesn't need them, he just doesn't use them. I can go without mine if, i don't want to read things or see non blurry things at a distance
Point of fact, every one of the other B-17 crews knew that old 666 needed additional parts, so they were actually going out and requisitioning new equipment and donating the items to old, 666 so they could pimp their aircraft.
They knew how good the eager beavers were and any equipment they could spare would help repair old, 666 to get them back into the air again. It also meant the sooner that they were back in the air sooner more crews we’re coming back.
Please do his video “America’s War Horse Marine - Sergeant Reckless” !
"Tactical acquisition" of equipment is an age old tradition in the US military. If you don't get caught it didn't happen.
My dad was a supply sergeant in the army reserves during the late 60’s and early 70’s. You wouldn’t believe the stuff he brought home.
You asked what would happen if they were attacked from both sides. It wouldn't happen, thenemey would essentially be shooting at themselves in the process.
That is a very good point!
It isn’t so much at shooting each other, it’s more about not crashing into each other, but if it did come to the point that you are in such a target rich environment that you have enemies on the left and the right, they had two things going for them.
1. It’s a target rich environment so just look both way and shoot whatever you think has a higher chance of taking you out.
2. The crew did have overlapping fields of fire, so if he couldn’t shoot both way, there was a guy that could take care of each way. Waist turrets were after all, additional firepower, not the main lead dispenser.
Some of the eye exercises work for things like "lazy eye" but not for vision.
I was just about to comment that when I was a kid I was prescribed an eye patch over my good eye endless forced to make my lazy eye stronger
Finally a channel I like does the eager beavers, when you're ready for the biggest badass watch lewis millet ( fix bayonets)
The bombardier did fly the plane during the bomb run, but not from the bomb bay. There were flight controls just in front of and below the pilots' seats, along with a bomb sight.
Admiral Yamamoto was eventually taken out over Bougainville by a flight of P-38 Lightnings from Guadalcanal. No geishas were harmed during that mission.
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I was happy they kept the smokestack up. Still wish that the city would have kept the whole building though. I grew up in the burbs.
Real true men, incredible heroes. May history keep their legacy alive.
Wild how they progressed so far up the bomber skill tree thet unlocked the trimectagon mission
I have a special place in heart of B17 crewman. Both of my great uncles were bombardiers, and one other was a fighter pilot. One made it home, to only take his life due to PTSD, the other was shot down in France.
My 3rd great uncle, the oldest of the 3, was a p51 pilot that was shot down over Normandy and is buried there. My Grandmother talks about them like she just said goodbye.
All I ever managed to accomplish in my Military career was a lowly E4 as an 11b.
Kinda makes me feel.. well, less is the word. Knowing I had hero's in my family like this.
Trying to have the same accomplishments as people who fought in world wars when you were never in a world war yourself is probably going to end in failure. The fact you even enlisted in their honor would make them proud.
@@traceurs619 Thank you for the Kind words Stanger.
I agree and appreciate it. Just hard when it feels like comparing apples to oranges some times. 😊
@@badbutton5869 Just keep your head held high. This world is a dangerous place, and your moment to shine can come at any moment. Even in the most random of places and time. You can be a hero and not even be in uniform, because it’s your wit, skill, and heart that’ll give you the courage to save a life when it’s needed.
Its worth watching his video on the mosquito. It did quite well for a wooden bomber/fighter.
Had uncle's who flew in mosquito with the pathfinders dropping flares on targets for the bomber's.
Fun fact. The M2 Browning "Ma Deuce" is such a giid gun that the military still uses it
Color film started to really get used in the mid 1930, but wasn't common, so there are some color film from World War 2, though most was still black & white.
It costs money to train newer personnel. A highly skilled crew isn't "a sum of the parts", they are more than that. Any commander will be reluctant to expen such a crew on highly dangerous mission (beyond the norm) without justification.
Yep. Not only that but with all that experience and knowledge, you want guys like them to be training the next new guys. These are the guys that throw the manual in the bin and tell others “this is what actually really can do”.
If these type of guys are killed even before they get to share experience / train other, then you never learn much.
Dad was a B17 mechanic with the 8th army air corp in Debach England.
Reminds me of Greg "Pappy" Boyington and his "Blacksheep Squadron.". 😉😁
You should check out the story of Sergeant York.
He did so much with little loss of enemy life!
He did it through Faith, and was a simple farmer😍
I broke my glasses 3 years before I became a firefighter . At the time I broke my glasses my vision was 20/30-20/40 when I had my physical for fire college they checked my vision and my test came back 20/15-20/20. surprised by my improvement my optometrist double checked and triple checked my eyes and said well I guess your eyes corrected themselves. Last year I finally got glasses after 38 years as my eyes slowly needed adjustment.
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The men from that era show what Americans can, and will, do when needed.
My great (maybe two greats) uncle was a flying fortress radio man shot down over france. He got saved and hidden with french resistance, Germany had taken over France at the time. He lived there for quite a while before coming home, unfortunately i never knew him, only his wife my great (great?) aunt. I have seen this video from the fat electriction at least half a dozen times but i always tear up at the moment he narrates jay seeing the reefs and essentially saying "my life isnt worth shit if i let 40,000 men die cause i was a coward."
Too bad that every History teacher isn't The Fat Electrician, I have learned and remembered more history
than I ever learned in school. Amazing man and channel!
When I was a kid, anything more than 5 feet away was super blurry. Throughout high school I used the Bates method, minus staring at the sun. After high school, I passed my driver's license exam without glasses. I haven't touched or worn glasses for 7 years. 🎉😊
The idea about some of them becoming too important, has to do with symbols. Sometimes being able to hold up a symbol to inspire others is more important. If a symbol is killed, it can have negative morale effects.
The film of planes being shot down was filmed in color. They had color film before the war but it was reserved for the military during the war. Those clips are from fighter planes shooting down other fighters though, not the bomber shots.
yes, read about these guys 1/2 century ago. Amazing pilot & crew
My father is an Optometrist and he concurs with working your muscles over glasses. Catching it early will definitely help.
Lovely reaction to an awesome story by one of the best storytellers on YT! Nic of TFE is amazing!
As always, love your reactions and always enjoy watching you all! Hope the baby's doing well and much love to all the family!
The hotel could be considered a civilian target which may make bombing it a war crime but the conversation is some what moot. The biggest issue is the crew of 666 not following orders on occasions. My personal opinion is split on this. I prefer the depots as targets over the hotels myself becuase it's more detremintal to the japanese war effort. At the same time I understand the inclination to take out enemy leadership. It's great for disorienting the enemy. (Not sure how effective the Japanese officers were in the first place though) As for the morality of hitting a civilian target, let's be honest, in a total war situation a massive impact to the civilian population is unavoidable and may actually be the tipping point to making a stubborn enemy surrender. Look at why the Japanese surrendered in the first place for refrence.
The decision to drop the atom bomb hinged on the theory that otherwise there would have to be a land invasion. The casualties on both sides would have been astronomical. It was also assumed that the Japanese,since they basically considered the Emperor to be a god, would fight until almost the last man standing. Dropping the bomb would actually save lives. Hiroshima was first, but they still would not surrender, because they didn't believe the reports of such devastation. It was only after Nagasaki was bombed that the full impact was realized. The Emperor cared little about the loss of life. But it was impossible at that point to ignore the truth. To continue to fight an enemy who could totally destroy your entire country without suffering reciprocal damage would have been ludicrous. Even the Emperor and his officers could not deny that.
It would not have been a war crime to hit the hotel due the the officers club. Even in modern times, with few expectations.
Would love to see you react to the fat electrician talking about the Seabees... And then the great SeaBee train robbery!! As an old SeaBee EO..... I still chuckle over the original Bees.... Carry on
My old boss was a B-15 navigator, and would sometimes have to open the bomb bay doors on a catwalk to release the payload.
They repaired planes midair! If they could, at least!
Y’all definitely need to check out the video about the duck and the one about the horse if you haven’t yet. But ALL of his videos are amazing. Also Unsubscribe is freaking great too.
Admirals can be promoted and replaced; munitions is harder to produce.
This story would make an epic movie!
FYI: They had color film dating back to the 1930s, it just black and white was so much cheaper to use. The Wizard of Oz was made in the 1930s and it was mostly filmed in color, and you can find a lot of Hitler's home movie were in color.
Indeed. The Adventures of Robin Hood (1938) was filmed in color.
That story would make a pretty good movie.
This story is such an incredible snapshot of how the US military was at the time. In so many of these stories with the right person in the right place at the right time they can happen again. This could never happen again, never.
Found a Video that pretty much sums up, why Americans don't stand down. When it is time to fight. A new song by John Schneider (AKA: Beau Duke) from the Dukes of Hazard. Look up: " She's Worth It!"
I hope you guys realize, as you watch more and more of these Military Videos, why most Americans Appreciate our military so much.
So in America we say thats "crazy " alot and ive used that word before were a British guy called me on it thinking i was saying something bad about a reaction video,and i was like no thats a good thing, being crazy is mandatory here in the US ,and he was ,oh ,cool and i was like yeah it can mean that too ,😂😂, we all got different slang
Sarnovski absolutely made the right call with the officer's club mission. Yamamoto was important, sure, but in the grand scheme of things there's probably someone a little way's down capable of taking his place, so all blowing up that penthouse would do is give the press at home a dead figurehead to use for war bond drives.
The ammunition and fuel depots on the other hand is a concrete strategic victory that actively helps men in combat to stay alive and able to fight, while also depriving the enemy of things that are time consuming and costly to replace. One of the reasons for Japan declaring war on America was an oil embargo we placed on them in condemnation of their actions in China and Manchuria, so fuel is an incredibly expensive thing for Japan as they have to rely on imports from elsewhere. Ammunition, too, is pretty expensive, especially bombs and cannon shells.
TL:DR Sarnovski made the right call, he sacrificed a symbolic victory for a strategic victory.
What he said about The US military equipment being obsolete is very true. I mean, just a year before in 1941. The Army air corps was still using the P40 And the regular combat infantryman Were still issued the springfield 03
Should be a movie
James! Do we need to crack your knuckles with a ruler to not stop the TFE videos? Bonus content, dude.
I was late for work on lunch today. I know it’s only 30 seconds more but was just trying to wrap it up. Promise the next one will be to the very last second :D
LOL Interesting that my uncle was killed during WWII, while a flight engineer on a B-24 bomber named "Eager Beaver". The title caught my eye.
They should be the Masters of Air series.
The eye thing works. Had to wear glasses, at age 9, and do eye exercises, mainly focusing at distant things then close things so on and so forth. I have 20/15 vision at 47 yrs of age. Was never about my vision at a young age, but under development.
@14:16 Kendrick like Rambo (later films) just double gun firing lol
Yes it can I was almost blind at one time the Doctor had me put a patch over my good eye to make the lift eye stronger
The original improvise, adapt and overcome. They sound like Black Sheep.
GREAT POST
My grandfather was in the 5th Air Corps during WW2 for the entirety of the war. He was just a cook, but he served from right after Pearl Harbor until the end of the war. A fun fact about the war is that for every combat soldier, there were 4 support soldiers for the US.
The eye muscles that move your eyes can also affect the shape of the eyeball and therefore, how the eye focuses.
This kind of distortion/reshaping can happen naturally more than once in your life.
General Smegma! They did it again!
My friend said his grandfather once downed 12 German fighter planes singlehandedly in one battle.....definitely the worst mechanic in the Luftwaffe.
Building up eye muscles works!!
Don't skip the end, TFE usually puts outtakes and such in the last few seconds!!
"Tactically Aqcuire".... it's a thing 😁😉
Very Nice - Thanks 👍
Extraordinary times, with extradentary MEN!
eye exercise do work but only on certain conditions. stronger eye muscles allow for better lens control so focusing on object near and far becomes better.
I have liked the song Random since first hear.
I was 14 when my dad took me to an auto scrap yard. I saw a VW Beetle. It had no engine or wheels and it was free (Not enough metal to crush.) I told my dad that I can make it work. He laughed; but he did not know that my best friend had a wrecked Porsche 911! I made it work and he sold it in an effort to save me from me!
Training your eye muscles works! 1st hand expo!
One of my Uncles was a Ball Turret gunner with the 15th USAAF. He was KIA by an Me.262 jet fighter in 1945 Jan. somewhere over Europe. My Grandpaw told me this and does not remember where. My Dad and six Brothers served in the European and Pacific theater's in all branches of service.😊
5:12 Exercises might help improve farsighted vision (stronger eye movement muscles would squish the eye more, moving the retina back and closer to in-focus), but would make nearsightedness worse and do nothing regarding astigmatism, or other things that can be wrong with vision.
The eye exercises do work. Has for me and my family
The McNasty of the Army Air Corp
This puts a few definition on "flying fortress"
Ghosts? Baah humbug...that helps the tourist industry. Be afraid of the living, not the dead!
Bet you next mission they start leaving out the Geisha part.
it was probably never specifically mentioned in the first place, but it would have been a safe assumption that the officers club would have been full of "ladies of the night"
666 is the devil's number sooo... Just think about it for a second
Problem is; bullets can be replaced, leadership is harder to replaced.
True story, where have these men gone...
Government: "You're not allowed to have that."
Americans: "Ok, I'll just build one"
think about it if they attack from both sides at the same time they would be flying into each others flight path, not to mention bullets.
Actually your eyes can be strengthened if you have a lazy eye. My uncle did simple eye exercise which i know im going to butcher the explanation..but basically he would blink rapidly, raise eyebrows up and hold ..rolling your eyes up and to the side. Anyways,long story short.... less than a year later his lazy eye was resolved.
From the Fat Electrician “Liquid Death”
Never fight a guy named Willy.
Our military is full of extraordinary individuals that do extraordinary things. That's why it's not a good idea to MESS with the U.S. For those of us who have served and are serving hold your head high.
Do Finland next
Guess what, they made Jay Seemed a fighter pilot after this.
Why is this guy so funny? Lol
You 2 are my absolute favorite reactors on here hands down. Please do more fat electrician. That way I get to react to you and watch his awesome videos
You guys Rock from an Irish American check out Ronnie DRew parting glass
Bit nutty is good 😊
Joseph sarnovski from my hometown
you guys have to do his video on the mosquito
God was watching over him nothing else not luck but God
Why is this not a movie?
fun fact zeamer died in 2007
Hsve y'all reacted to Roy Benevides? He's a fellow Texan. I really thought this story was embellished.....no everything he did really happened. They say they based RAMBO off of him.
Watch the end of his vids, he always has an little extra at the end.
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