Carbon Sceptic? Top 5 Aluminium MTBs You Can Buy In 2023

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  • čas přidán 20. 07. 2024
  • Fed up of insanely expensive carbon fibre super bikes? Do you want to literally reduce your carbon (frame) footprint? Or are you a heavy hitter scared that carbon bikes are just snappy accidents waiting to happen?
    If you fall under any, or all, of the above categories, we’ve got five mountain bikes for you!
    Aluminium bikes might not be the talk of the town they once were, but they’re still a solid choice if you don’t want to go down the carbon route.
    Aluminium is easy to work with, durable, cheap to manufacture and potentially more green than carbon bike frames.
    We’ve compiled five aluminium bikes we think you should definitely check out, from a cutting edge wonder using state of the art technology to come out lighter than many carbon frames, though to an old school freeride monster brought bang up to date.
    Which one would you choose? Would you buy an alloy or a carbon bike if all things were equal? Be sure to let us know in the comments!
    #mtb #carbonfree #aluminium
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Komentáře • 105

  • @bikeradar
    @bikeradar  Před rokem +1

    Apologies for our spelling error, it is of course the Ibis Ripley not Ridley - now that's a very different bike...

  • @bitumen83
    @bitumen83 Před rokem +10

    That Actofive is peace of art 🤩

    • @kuma_score7536
      @kuma_score7536 Před rokem

      the steel version IMO was even nicer but man are they ever expensive.

  • @trailriders6876
    @trailriders6876 Před rokem +12

    PLS correct Ibis bike title, it!s Ripley, not Ridley

    • @ComradeMozorov
      @ComradeMozorov Před rokem +9

      Just turn your screen upside down while you’re reading the d

  • @grandpashreddypants
    @grandpashreddypants Před rokem +1

    Just picked up NS Eccentric Alu 29 and put a short, 120 fork on it. Dream machine in the woods. Replaced a broken carbon frame I rode for only 1k miles-less than a year. This new one will outlive my grandkids.

    • @bikeradar
      @bikeradar  Před rokem

      Sounds like a sweet build! Tag us on social media with #bikeradarbuilds, we'd love to see it

  • @saml8119
    @saml8119 Před rokem +4

    I went with that Norco! Love it! Carbon for my road bike is good. I will never have it for my mountain bike if possible.

  • @marksandoval5361
    @marksandoval5361 Před rokem +7

    Unfortunately, many bike makers don't sell complete stock alloy bikes with higher end build kits. Complete alloy bikes with GX or XT drivetrains or Grip 2 dampers or some of the better components are hard to come by. Brands like Specialized, Trek, and Santa Cruz only make stock alloy bikes with low end components.

    • @Pienimusta
      @Pienimusta Před rokem +2

      Very sad but true, especially for the big brands. Sometime might get lucky deal with special editions. Canyon for example released new Spectral Fabio Wibmer edition with GX and top of the line Öhlins and SQ lab buildkit, and the price is quite great.

    • @durrantmiller8810
      @durrantmiller8810 Před rokem

      Commencal is an aluminum only brand so they got top spec

    • @poorjez3647
      @poorjez3647 Před rokem

      'Airdrop Bikes' if your in the uk they are very nice alloy bikes

    • @quithollerin7276
      @quithollerin7276 Před rokem

      I've listed my 5

    • @novamatter3432
      @novamatter3432 Před rokem

      Commencal. Nuff said.

  • @carnivorebob3250
    @carnivorebob3250 Před rokem +1

    I have 3 bikes. Currently no carbon. Cromag Rootdown, Canfield Yeli Screamy and a Ibis Ripmo. Bike weight is improtant to me but a good aluminum frame can be built light. I do have Caebon Fiber wheels on two bikes and carbon finer jandelbars os all 3. But I like aluminum or steel frames.

    • @bikeradar
      @bikeradar  Před rokem

      That sounds like one hell of a quiver of bikes!

  • @i-am-vonnegut
    @i-am-vonnegut Před rokem +2

    I live in Central Scotland. Easy access to everywhere from tweed valley to Highland munros and everything in between. I Had a nukeproof mega 290 comp. Impressively capable bike. So much so 70% of my riding became kind of average if that makes any sense.
    Sold the the NP. Bagged a Ripley AF. Still riding all the same places... Now smiling 100% of the time and back in love with mtbing.
    Ibis ripley AF's really do sit in a special little place of their own ❤🙏✌️

  • @smuy3782
    @smuy3782 Před rokem +1

    "Super sturdy e13 rims" 😂 classic! Voiceover guy definitely hasn't ridden them then. 3 ride specials they are!

    • @bikeradar
      @bikeradar  Před rokem

      We found them to fine, and Alex who reviewed the bike is a SHREDDER!

  • @tinycmo
    @tinycmo Před rokem +2

    Aluminum mtn bike bike fell off car wreck yesterday. Was going around 50 mph. Abrasions on grip and seat (deep one). But no other damage. Do carbon bikes do well with that situation?

    • @bikeradar
      @bikeradar  Před rokem

      Ouch! Don't think material makes too much of a difference, damage may be more obvious with an alloy than carbon bike, but we'd be getting any bike that'd been in accident like that checked out before riding it!

  • @scherzo0o
    @scherzo0o Před rokem +1

    I'd love to see what's on offer, in very light aluminum, in the XC range...

    • @joshuaallswang8016
      @joshuaallswang8016 Před 10 měsíci

      Specialized chisel, Scott scale, BMC two stroke AL 1, I opted for the BMC, but the chisel is a probably a pound lighter.

  • @rangi0072
    @rangi0072 Před rokem +1

    I ride the scz chameleon mx and can vouch that it is an absolute beast so fun and playful not the lightest though at 31 pounds I love alloy but bring on the carbon version;)

    • @bikeradar
      @bikeradar  Před rokem

      Nice! The previous Chameleon did come in a carbon version, be interested to see if they bring it back!

  • @kowioutdoortv
    @kowioutdoortv Před rokem +7

    I am scared of carbon, damages, problems with transport, prefer alu

    • @yonglingng5640
      @yonglingng5640 Před rokem +1

      It's OK to feel that way. If I ever buy an MTB in the future (trail bike in this case), it'll be aluminium too.

    • @bikeradar
      @bikeradar  Před rokem

      Valid concerns and it's great to have more choices!

  • @jeffreydzialo
    @jeffreydzialo Před rokem +1

    If i had endless cash, i still think id be attracted to aluminum over carbon and steel... But Ti would be pretty tempting as well.

    • @bikeradar
      @bikeradar  Před rokem

      Ti bikes are lovely but can have their own durability issues, seen way more broken Ti frames than other materials!

  • @atraildog
    @atraildog Před rokem +2

    Ibis Riply AF for the win!

  • @Pienimusta
    @Pienimusta Před rokem +3

    Pretty much every bike brand still makes amazing aluminium bikes.
    Pole has some wicked enduro and downhill slayers.

    • @bikeradar
      @bikeradar  Před rokem

      For sure! So many brands making awesome aluminium bikes!

  • @mobilemonster7681
    @mobilemonster7681 Před rokem +3

    How is the polygon siskui not on this list? Very nice geometry and componentry for the almost under 2k.

    • @bikeradar
      @bikeradar  Před rokem

      It is good value for sure, we liked it a lot when we reviewed it, but wanted to keep this list a little varied, hence including the Chameleon and Actofive over other obvious choices
      You can check out our Polygon review here - www.bikeradar.com/reviews/bikes/mountain-bikes/full-suspension-mountain-bikes/polygon-siskiu-t7-29-review/

  • @celpabedn
    @celpabedn Před 11 měsíci

    Is carbon really problematic with small cracks being the end of the frame?

  • @ROF-uw9kr
    @ROF-uw9kr Před rokem +1

    Privateer would fit this list amazingly

    • @bikeradar
      @bikeradar  Před rokem +1

      We hope they make a 121 to go with the range!

  • @scottpater
    @scottpater Před rokem +1

    I opted for the Santa Cruz Hightower AL (R spec). Love it.

    • @bikeradar
      @bikeradar  Před rokem +1

      Awesome bike, glad to hear you're enjoying it!

  • @bikeradar
    @bikeradar  Před rokem +1

    Are you a carbon sceptic? Let us know in the comments 👇

  • @mellissanash7517
    @mellissanash7517 Před rokem +1

    Now do one with steel as it lasts longer than aluminum and some would say rides nicer too.

    • @bikeradar
      @bikeradar  Před rokem

      Ask, and you shall receive 😉

  • @BalamTryba
    @BalamTryba Před rokem +2

    norco's fluid is the one to showcase, i like the shore but its far from their most impressive alu bike

    • @RotormanMTB
      @RotormanMTB Před rokem +1

      Agree.. and more versitile also.

    • @bikeradar
      @bikeradar  Před rokem

      The Fluid is a great bike, but we felt the Shore deserved some attention too 😁

  • @ausoff-road7795
    @ausoff-road7795 Před rokem +1

    Commencal Clash & Meta should of been on the list

    • @bikeradar
      @bikeradar  Před rokem

      Great options for sure, the Tempo looks like its riotously good fun too!

  • @SH-ig6rd
    @SH-ig6rd Před rokem

    Ridley is my fave!

  • @ELgorz
    @ELgorz Před rokem +1

    List lacks Spectral FW edition

    • @bikeradar
      @bikeradar  Před rokem +1

      Great shout, and one of the few alloy bikes with high-end rather than budget kit

  • @frank8278
    @frank8278 Před rokem +1

    You excluded the best hardtail on the market. The Paradox V3 made by Banshee.

    • @RuiSilvaPT
      @RuiSilvaPT Před rokem +1

      Thanks for the info mate, I am searching for a XC hardtail with 140mm of travel and now this one is also on the list of candidates!

    • @frank8278
      @frank8278 Před rokem

      @@RuiSilvaPT It is a wonderful bike.

    • @DilbertZ430si
      @DilbertZ430si Před rokem

      @@RuiSilvaPT Being the owner of a Banshee Paradox I wouldn't recommend it to anyone looking for an XC bike. The Paradox is firmly placed in the trail/light enduro corner, similar to Nukeproof Scout and Trek Roscoe. If you're looking for a hardtail I'd suggest the channel hardtailparty.

    • @bikeradar
      @bikeradar  Před rokem +1

      It is a bike we'd love to try out for sure!

  • @henrybatson8455
    @henrybatson8455 Před rokem +1

    Nukeproof mega alloy

    • @bikeradar
      @bikeradar  Před rokem

      Awesome bike, and one we're a big fan of!

  • @fiatfixie4344
    @fiatfixie4344 Před rokem +1

    Coming from the road bike world, I've had carbon and steel framed bikes that have gotten clapped out, and they can get friggen expensive. Aluminum has always been the most robust material In my opinion but the ride is buzzy. In the mountain bike world with fat tires and suspension that's not as much of an issue. P.S. If you're a steel guy, look seriously at Tange infinity and prestige, you won't be disappointed.

    • @bikeradar
      @bikeradar  Před rokem +1

      Lightweight steel can a little dent prone, and decent steel is more expensive than alloy as you say. Alloy is definitely a nice middle ground!

  • @notpablo8369
    @notpablo8369 Před rokem

    4th

  • @thajoint9245
    @thajoint9245 Před rokem +1

    Id rather get a Vitus fs then a SC ht

    • @RotormanMTB
      @RotormanMTB Před rokem +1

      yep..SC HT is way overpriced IMHO also.

    • @bikeradar
      @bikeradar  Před rokem

      Awesome to have the choice though!

  • @vagg6078
    @vagg6078 Před rokem +1

    Who needs carbon?
    Me

    • @bikeradar
      @bikeradar  Před rokem +1

      Our presenter Tom also has some kind of carbon addiction, he is seeking therapy and this video was the first step in his recovery 😂

  • @chrisgreen1094
    @chrisgreen1094 Před rokem +1

    Keep it real, keep it steel. You can keep your new light weight aluminium 👍😆

    • @bikeradar
      @bikeradar  Před rokem +1

      You may like our next Top 5 video 😉

  • @Bonky-wonky
    @Bonky-wonky Před rokem

    I wouldn’t call alloy durable. It can suffer from fatigue within seasons if ridden hard and isn’t as repairable as carbon.

    • @bikeradar
      @bikeradar  Před rokem

      This is very true, be careful with older alloy frames!

    • @Bonky-wonky
      @Bonky-wonky Před rokem

      @@bikeradar that’s the reason I personally stick with steel and (good) carbon.

  • @denesk2794
    @denesk2794 Před rokem +6

    Seriously? ... AL frames and nor Commencal nor Canyon makes it to the top 5 list?
    No, I am not an upset Commencal/Canyon owner. I am just surprised those two are not on this list.
    There must be something magical about that IBIS that compensates for its look. I know it's very subjective/personal, but that's one hell of an ugly frame IMHO.

    • @the10rv
      @the10rv Před rokem +1

      My thoughts exactly, those Ibises are damn ugly, i mean with tech today you could atleast make a normal straight toptube… terrible. And talking aluminium and not mentioning commencal is kinda strange and weird choice…

    • @bikeradar
      @bikeradar  Před rokem

      It is subjective, we really like how the Ripley looks and it rides sooooo well!

  • @CarsandBikes
    @CarsandBikes Před rokem

    You mention Actofive and not Pole bikes? SMH

    • @bikeradar
      @bikeradar  Před rokem

      Pole have been doing it for longer, but we felt Actofive deserved some attention and Tom really wants to ride the I-Train!

  • @zdenekkratochvil288
    @zdenekkratochvil288 Před rokem +1

    7.45 pounds vs. 5.73 pounds is according to you "gaining around pound in weight". It is quite weird mathematics (maybe intentionally misrepresenting?). According to the school I have studied is 1.72 difference rather around two pound than "around pound" 😉
    In general I think that for XC bikes is 1.72 pouns weight difference already quite appreciable but for more gravity riding style it is significantly less important. But as it was already said in some of other comments - the difference between aluminium and carbon frame is not only about the weight.

    • @bikeradar
      @bikeradar  Před rokem

      The weight difference is noticeable on some climbs, but for sure, it lessons on descents and in terms of the weight loss from your wallet too!

  • @quithollerin7276
    @quithollerin7276 Před rokem

    No no no. Knolly. Commencal. Banshee. Reeb. And let's not overlook the recently released Devinci Chainsaw.

    • @quithollerin7276
      @quithollerin7276 Před rokem +1

      Honorables go to the Norco Sight A1... belongs in the 5, in fact. And the Rocky Altitude A70... could have been built with better hubs in lieu of kashima, in my opinion.

    • @bikeradar
      @bikeradar  Před rokem

      All great shouts, though Reeb might be making an appearance on the channel soon... We have a chainsaw in for review as well so stay tuned for that!

  • @joshuaallswang8016
    @joshuaallswang8016 Před rokem +1

    I would NEVER buy a plastic/Carbon mountain bike. I would never fall for the marketing BS of today. Aluminum or Titanium for a FS mtb would be my only options.

    • @durrantmiller8810
      @durrantmiller8810 Před rokem

      The fact that you call carbon plastics pains my soul

    • @simonm1447
      @simonm1447 Před rokem

      ​@@durrantmiller8810 technically it's plastic, even if it don't sound nice

    • @bikeradar
      @bikeradar  Před rokem

      It's nice to have the choice of all three materials though, you're not forced to buy one, you can have whatever you like for the most part 😁

  • @Sck519
    @Sck519 Před rokem

    I already know Banshee isnt on this list so it's wrong

    • @bikeradar
      @bikeradar  Před rokem

      Banshee make some great bikes for sure and definitely a solid option. Even though we didn't include them, doesn't mean we don't like/rate them very highly!

  • @paulaus
    @paulaus Před rokem

    What's a pound? Please also quote in Metric for you know the majority of the rest of the world.

    • @bikeradar
      @bikeradar  Před rokem

      A pound is 453.592g 😉

    • @paulaus
      @paulaus Před rokem

      @@bikeradar Thanks I hate it…

  • @michiganstate149
    @michiganstate149 Před rokem

    *skeptic

    • @bikeradar
      @bikeradar  Před rokem

      In the USA, it's sceptic here in good old blighty 😉 Kinda like another word in the title, Aluminium (spelt the right way 😝)

  • @spiffpilot2589
    @spiffpilot2589 Před rokem +3

    Lot of ignorance in these comments. Carbon is exceptionally strong. It’s not weak and fragile by any means. And anyone who thinks having a carbon frame and/or parts is about weight savings is the most ignorant of all. Carbon gives a much better ride quality than aluminum ever could.
    Most people get aluminum because they can’t afford carbon. and that’s OK. But to be so foolish as to say it’s just as good or better? That’s hysterical. Go be poor somewhere else. 😂😂

    • @myrants5836
      @myrants5836 Před rokem

      What a load of utter rubbish.

    • @simonm1447
      @simonm1447 Před rokem +1

      Carbon is a fiber material. It's very strong in fiber direction, but not that strong if it's stressed in the non main fiber direction. It's very strong if you just ride it, but it's vulnerable if you hit something with your frame or crash. It don't bend plastically, it is flexible to the point it breaks, unlike metal which would get a dent but wouldn't fail completely if you hit a rock.

  • @pheonixfps9248
    @pheonixfps9248 Před rokem

    Trek Slash and Remedy are better than most of these bikes on the list.

    • @bikeradar
      @bikeradar  Před rokem

      They are great bikes, but of the ones reviewed in this video, we've rated them very highly.

    • @pheonixfps9248
      @pheonixfps9248 Před rokem

      @BikeRadar i don't disagree that they're no of high standard, but comparatively when looking at what the Slash 7 offers, as basic as it is, and the remedy, it's incredible hard to beat.