Older video but thanks for posting it. I have a 230 and its grinding when I try to use the PTO. I have to go as low RPM as possible. Also when I try to take out of PTO it grinds too and I have to shut the tractor off to get it to stop spinning. I am hoping its just an adjustment. I am going to pull the inspection plate and see. My Ford 3000 did the same thing and I had to split it and replace clutches and while I was in there I noticed the ring gear was cracked too. So this will be my 2nd clutch job.
You might want to check out czcams.com/video/fRyKBmVo6J4/video.html for adjusting the PTO stage on your clutch. It's not quite the same pressure plate but similar and will help you to find where to adjust. Yours is also supposed to be set at 080-.090 inches. Thanks for watching!
So I do need to remove the 3 bolts on my pressure plate after installing I’m doing the repair on my 230 with ad3-152 Perkins the 3 bolts was in when I took it apart so I’m wondering if who ever owned it before me didn’t do it right great video by the way very informative
The 3 bolts in the pressure plate hold it together enough to get the bolts started that hold it to the pressure plate, once you get it bolted down they come out. Thanks for watching!
Excellent video. I am working on a 165 massy today that sounds like the same issue as your tractor. Pulled the bottom inspection plate off and burnt smell right away. The owner had been mowing and hit something that stopped the mower. ( had a Gr 8 bolt instead of a proper shear pin). Then after the pto didn’t work. It would spin but had no power, same as the loader, it would move, but no power at all. I got the pressure plate out and it looks like the pin that holds the arms has a small pin through the end of it. Not enough room to knock it through the other side. So do you just pound the pin through and shear the little pin off? Anyway thanks for the video.
If you drive the lever pivot pin out breaking the retaining pin you are going to have a hard time getting the broken bits out, can you get a bite on the retaining pin with some side cutters or something like that to pull them out? Thanks for watching!
Hey I read my manual a little bit more carefully. What you do it tap the little retainer pin down. And as you do, you let the pressure plate come up. You can get them knocked down far enough to be able to pull the pins. Then once its completely apart you can knock the little retainer pins all the way out. Once again thanks for sharing your videos.
I feel I charge a fair rate and give fair service, it has to work for everyone or it doesn't work. ;) I have made some definite progress with the Mauser, now to get some videos made! Good to see you again!
Hi from Italy, very interesting video. Is that a LUK 11" clutch? does it comes with the alignmento tool included? As far as I see you cannot use te trans shaft here to center the clutch as you did on MF 165.. right? thasnk for answering
It was not a LUK clutch it was US made, I don't remember the brand but it did come with the alignment tool. You should be able to get a kt with the tool or get the tool separately from a supplier local to you. I am glad you enjoyed the video, thanks for watching!
Yes I want to thank you for the video we got the clutch back in the tractor now my front axle has alot of play in it. Are there bushings that I need to buy and put them in the axle so it will fix the plat issue it's a 1981 mg 230
There are 2 bushings in the axle support, it appears like the pin pivots with the axle and moves in the support from the parts picture. You can find the parts books online at www.agcopartsbooks.com/PartsBooksN/login.aspx?region=NorthAmerica scroll down the page and login as guest to find you part lists. Thanks for watching.
There are 2 bushings in the axle support, it appears like the pin pivots with the axle and moves in the support from the parts picture. You can find the parts books online at www.agcopartsbooks.com/PartsBooksN/login.aspx?region=NorthAmerica scroll down the page and login as guest to find you part lists. Thanks for watching.
how many HP is the MF 230 and what are your thoughts on the 230 ,, guy next door had a 230 ,, seem like a great little tractor .. his was a low hour tractor and in mint shape
We have a MF 188, everytime i engage a gear there is a little bit of grinding going on. Could this be a clutch plate failing sign? Are they stage two? There is a PTO lever underneath the seat, could this mean they have Independant PTO.?
If you have to depress the clutch pedal to engage the PTO it is a 2 stage clutch. The grinding depends on the situation, could be the clutch needs adjusted or replaced or it could be normal. Thanks for watching!
Great video, thanks. If you have a BMC niffield 4/65 at hand could you show how do service the clutch w/o splitting the tractor? Ours has had a half submerged clutch as its been sitting in the rain for ages before we got it. Housing is drained but the clutch is seized tight. Cheers mate.
Just drain it well, maybe flush it through with some diesel and fill with fresh oil. Keep an eye on it, it the oil looks contaminated again, drain and repeat.
Working on a MF165 trying to knock the king pin out. Is there a snap ring or should the king ping drive through the axle? I put the tire back on the hub but when I turn it left or right it will not budge. I was having issues with steering and now I understand why! I did head up the housing until grease squirted out all over but man.. I must be doing something wrong!
You have to knock the steering arm off the top and take out the woodruff key first thing, then the spindle should drive down through the axle knee. They can be a real bear sometimes because of wear and rust. Good luck and thanks for watching.
My MF230 has developed a leak from a small weep hole underneath the center of what appears to be the engine/tranny housing. I believe it's engine oil, could a rear main seal be the culprit?
That is a good chance it is your rear main seal, could also be the front transmission seal. You will be able to tell when you split the tractor. I am glad you enjoyed the video, thanks for watching!
I'm in west central Minnesota I need you to do my MF 30E with a loader. Not enough pressure from the springs so it let's the clutch slip. I'm 72 don't know if I should tackle it myself.
It's a bit of a travel for me. :) It's not a difficult job if you have the tools and lifts to work with. You will have to remove the loader to split the tractor. If you are reasonably mechanically inclined and have the stuff to work with I'm sure you would not have any problem. Thanks for watching!
It was probably the original clutch, it may have gotten some oil on it or just had done a lot of heavy PTO work that wore it out. The tractor may have had the transmission disk replaced before as well but not the rest of the parts, it's hard to say after 40 years. :) Thanks for watching!
I did a clutch similar to that Massey, on my Tafe 35di, it said the inner pressure plate needed to be set at .080 and the pressure plate arms being adjusted to all 3 be equal and the manual said a special tool was needed, I improvised. . Did you check these measurements off film or were they preset from the supplier? Check my video out, I just posted. It had been in my computer for the last 6 months and just got around to edit it and post it. What's ya'lls labor rate at up there, here they wanted 1400 labor to do it here, so I did it my self. My loader had 2 bolts and a few quick hose couplings to get the loader off. Keep up the great videos.
My understanding is that the Tafe tractor was a licensed copy of the MF 35, they also used a Perkins engine, yes? The new clutches come preset but I visually check, if anything looks off I do the measurements then. The dealerships charge $100+ per hour, I am not a licensed shop so charge much less than that. I figure on 4-6 hours without a loader. Feel free to link your video in the comments here. Thanks for watching!
hi there, i have a question, i have a 255 massey, diesel, my question is on the brakes, can they be adjusted or do i have to break the housing to fix, and second question, what parts would i need, or a gyuide as to what to look for, thx.
Good video Dave, I've dealt with Dave several times over the years and I can tell ya he's honest and he definitely knows what he's doing
Thank you, I appreciate the endorsement!
Older video but thanks for posting it. I have a 230 and its grinding when I try to use the PTO. I have to go as low RPM as possible. Also when I try to take out of PTO it grinds too and I have to shut the tractor off to get it to stop spinning. I am hoping its just an adjustment. I am going to pull the inspection plate and see. My Ford 3000 did the same thing and I had to split it and replace clutches and while I was in there I noticed the ring gear was cracked too. So this will be my 2nd clutch job.
You might want to check out czcams.com/video/fRyKBmVo6J4/video.html for adjusting the PTO stage on your clutch. It's not quite the same pressure plate but similar and will help you to find where to adjust. Yours is also supposed to be set at 080-.090 inches. Thanks for watching!
Been subscribed for a while now. Your videos are very helpful. You are a good instructor. Thank you
I am glad you enjoy the videos, thanks for the sub and thanks for watching!
This was very helpful. Thanks for your hard work.
Glad you enjoyed it! Thanks for watching!
Thanks. A good video. I have a MF-230 so I really appreciate it.
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Great video got same problem with my 240 Massey
It should be very similar. Thanks for watching!
Thanks that i got every good lesson from u
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Thanks from Morocco
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So I do need to remove the 3 bolts on my pressure plate after installing I’m doing the repair on my 230 with ad3-152 Perkins the 3 bolts was in when I took it apart so I’m wondering if who ever owned it before me didn’t do it right great video by the way very informative
The 3 bolts in the pressure plate hold it together enough to get the bolts started that hold it to the pressure plate, once you get it bolted down they come out.
Thanks for watching!
Excellent video.
I am working on a 165 massy today that sounds like the same issue as your tractor. Pulled the bottom inspection plate off and burnt smell right away. The owner had been mowing and hit something that stopped the mower. ( had a Gr 8 bolt instead of a proper shear pin). Then after the pto didn’t work. It would spin but had no power, same as the loader, it would move, but no power at all. I got the pressure plate out and it looks like the pin that holds the arms has a small pin through the end of it. Not enough room to knock it through the other side. So do you just pound the pin through and shear the little pin off?
Anyway thanks for the video.
If you drive the lever pivot pin out breaking the retaining pin you are going to have a hard time getting the broken bits out, can you get a bite on the retaining pin with some side cutters or something like that to pull them out? Thanks for watching!
Hey
I read my manual a little bit more carefully.
What you do it tap the little retainer pin down. And as you do, you let the pressure plate come up. You can get them knocked down far enough to be able to pull the pins. Then once its completely apart you can knock the little retainer pins all the way out.
Once again thanks for sharing your videos.
@@1waukesha Great, I'm glad you got it figured out!
Buen trabajo Dave 👍💪
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Interesting video, thanks for sharing your knowledge........
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Nice job ,Thanks for the video .
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hope you get paid well for doing top notch work...........great video again. how's your reloading going for your Mauser ? ya get a pet load yet?
I feel I charge a fair rate and give fair service, it has to work for everyone or it doesn't work. ;) I have made some definite progress with the Mauser, now to get some videos made! Good to see you again!
thanks brother I just subscribed to your channel excellent videos..
Thank you I appreciate the support, thanks for ath esub and thanks for watching!
Hi from Italy, very interesting video. Is that a LUK 11" clutch? does it comes with the alignmento tool included? As far as I see you cannot use te trans shaft here to center the clutch as you did on MF 165.. right? thasnk for answering
It was not a LUK clutch it was US made, I don't remember the brand but it did come with the alignment tool. You should be able to get a kt with the tool or get the tool separately from a supplier local to you.
I am glad you enjoyed the video, thanks for watching!
Yes I want to thank you for the video we got the clutch back in the tractor now my front axle has alot of play in it. Are there bushings that I need to buy and put them in the axle so it will fix the plat issue it's a 1981 mg 230
There are 2 bushings in the axle support, it appears like the pin pivots with the axle and moves in the support from the parts picture. You can find the parts books online at www.agcopartsbooks.com/PartsBooksN/login.aspx?region=NorthAmerica scroll down the page and login as guest to find you part lists.
Thanks for watching.
There are 2 bushings in the axle support, it appears like the pin pivots with the axle and moves in the support from the parts picture. You can find the parts books online at www.agcopartsbooks.com/PartsBooksN/login.aspx?region=NorthAmerica scroll down the page and login as guest to find you part lists.
Thanks for watching.
Love the old Massey repair vids! Where do u get ur parts from?
I am a parts dealer so I supply the parts.
@@CanadianRedneck15 Darn we were all hoping for good insight on where to buy our parts.
@@kmisercola7180 check with A&I Products for a dealer near you.
how many HP is the MF 230 and what are your thoughts on the 230 ,, guy next door had a 230 ,, seem like a great little tractor .. his was a low hour tractor and in mint shape
A 230 seems like a decent tractor, 38 HP according to tractordata.com One of the better front axle arrangements for a Massey.
Yes I'm fixing to put a clutch in my mf 230 this week I love the video do u have to adjust the clutch if it's new
The clutch itself should be preset from the factory but you will have to set the clutch pedal height for
the freeplay.
Thanks for watching!
Thanks so much I live in South Carolina , my axle has so much play in it are they 2 bushings that I have to by and another pin to make it correct
Good stuff.
I am glad you enjoyed it, thanks for watching!
We have a MF 188, everytime i engage a gear there is a little bit of grinding going on. Could this be a clutch plate failing sign? Are they stage two? There is a PTO lever underneath the seat, could this mean they have Independant PTO.?
If you have to depress the clutch pedal to engage the PTO it is a 2 stage clutch. The grinding depends on the situation, could be the clutch needs adjusted or replaced or it could be normal.
Thanks for watching!
Great video, thanks.
If you have a BMC niffield 4/65 at hand could you show how do service the clutch w/o splitting the tractor? Ours has had a half submerged clutch as its been sitting in the rain for ages before we got it. Housing is drained but the clutch is seized tight.
Cheers mate.
I am sorry but there are almost no BMC tractors around here, I've never seen one, I don't think there was an importer for them.
Just drain it well, maybe flush it through with some diesel and fill with fresh oil. Keep an eye on it, it the oil looks contaminated again, drain and repeat.
I don't think it would be a good idea to run it through the pump, it wouldn't lubricate very well.
Working on a MF165 trying to knock the king pin out. Is there a snap ring or should the king ping drive through the axle? I put the tire back on the hub but when I turn it left or right it will not budge. I was having issues with steering and now I understand why! I did head up the housing until grease squirted out all over but man.. I must be doing something wrong!
You have to knock the steering arm off the top and take out the woodruff key first thing, then the spindle should drive down through the axle knee. They can be a real bear sometimes because of wear and rust. Good luck and thanks for watching.
My MF230 has developed a leak from a small weep hole underneath the center of what appears to be the engine/tranny housing. I believe it's engine oil, could a rear main seal be the culprit?
Great video btw!
That is a good chance it is your rear main seal, could also be the front transmission seal. You will be able to tell when you split the tractor.
I am glad you enjoyed the video, thanks for watching!
I'm in west central Minnesota I need you to do my MF 30E with a loader. Not enough pressure from the springs so it let's the clutch slip. I'm 72 don't know if I should tackle it myself.
It's a bit of a travel for me. :) It's not a difficult job if you have the tools and lifts to work with. You will have to remove the loader to split the tractor. If you are reasonably mechanically inclined and have the stuff to work with I'm sure you would not have any problem. Thanks for watching!
Good day What would cause that, normally the front clutch would go. Yea what would a repair cost. Thanks
It was probably the original clutch, it may have gotten some oil on it or just had done a lot of heavy PTO work that wore it out. The tractor may have had the transmission disk replaced before as well but not the rest of the parts, it's hard to say after 40 years. :) Thanks for watching!
I did a clutch similar to that Massey, on my Tafe 35di, it said the inner pressure plate needed to be set at .080 and the pressure plate arms being adjusted to all 3 be equal and the manual said a special tool was needed, I improvised. . Did you check these measurements off film or were they preset from the supplier? Check my video out, I just posted. It had been in my computer for the last 6 months and just got around to edit it and post it. What's ya'lls labor rate at up there, here they wanted 1400 labor to do it here, so I did it my self. My loader had 2 bolts and a few quick hose couplings to get the loader off. Keep up the great videos.
My understanding is that the Tafe tractor was a licensed copy of the MF 35, they also used a Perkins engine, yes?
The new clutches come preset but I visually check, if anything looks off I do the measurements then.
The dealerships charge $100+ per hour, I am not a licensed shop so charge much less than that. I figure on 4-6 hours without a loader.
Feel free to link your video in the comments here.
Thanks for watching!
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hi there, i have a question, i have a 255 massey, diesel, my question is on the brakes, can they be adjusted or do i have to break the housing to fix, and second question, what parts would i need, or a gyuide as to what to look for, thx.
should have meant hubs
very informative
I am pretty sure there is an adjuster on the linkage on the front of the rear axle housings nest to the differential case.
Thanks for watching!
How do you adjust a 2 stage clutch from under side tractor 65 Massey. Thanks
There is a small plate under the clutch housing, pretty tight but you can adjust from there. Thanks for watching!
Would a 383 be roughly same process?
I haven't been into a 383 but I expect so. Thanks for watching!
How long of bolts are those you used for guide bolts?
Probably 10 or 12 inches, basically the longest I can find laying around the shop. 😁 Thanks for watching!
@@CanadianRedneck15 ok thanks I have a massey 265 I'm about to do a clutch on and I wanna keep it somewhat lined up with pins
10:01 what is the size of the screws for the pressure lock
I think they were 1/4" coarse thread, 2 or 2 1/2" long. Thanks for watching!
@@CanadianRedneck15 Thanks for the information, you helped me a lot
how bout a clutch replacement on a JD400 with a loader. great videos.
If one comes up, absolutely. Thanks for watching!
How do you determine if the flywheel needs to be turned ?
Check for excessive wear, heat cracks, and grooves from wearing through the clutch disk to the rivets.
Thanks for watching!
How do you adjust the pressure plate
A new one should be adjusted when you get it. A service manual would have the instructions and specs to adjust it. Thanks for watching!
What’s the cost for that diy vs shop
It can vary quite considerably but around 4-6 hours labour usually. Thanks for watching!
In two of your videos you don't even set the pto gap or even check it nor did you even check the clutch finger gap as well ...
A new pressure plate is set from the factory ready to go though I do give a visual inspection as I install it. Thanks for watching!