Berryman B12 Chemtool. How does this compare to BG 44K and Seafoam?
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- čas přidán 5. 09. 2024
- I've been using this stuff since the late 80's. There is a reason that this 103 year old product is still being sold, and for the life of me, I can't understand why it isn't more popular. It's cheaper than nearly all the alternatives, works nearly as good as the best fuel system cleaner on the market (BG-44K) and doesn't harm new or old vehicles in any way.
What it does do, is clean the injectors, and the carbon build-up that forms over the miles. It also has a nice side effect of increasing fuel economy when it's being used so that helps to offset it's fairly low up front cost.
Chemtool isn't sponsoring this video, and didn't ask me to make this video for them. This is one of a few products that have, over the years brought me good results and I thought I'd share that info with you!
I discovered B-12 from watching Vice Grip Garage and I have to admit that it works amazing! I mistakenly left my two big snowblowers with the fuel turned on all year long between winters. They both went from always starting on the first pull, to not starting at all. In fact I could only get them to run if I used the electric start and would only keep running if fully choked. I dumped an entire can of B-12 in each one and let them run. After about 20 minutes they started coughing and chugging, I realized they needed the choke opened up. I let them run another 20 minutes and they're like new! They both start on the first pull again!
Don’t let it sit in there long Berrymans has acetone in it. It’s what there put in fingernail polish remover. Very strong don’t get it on the paint if your car it will dissolve paint. Gasoline is a strong solvent but acetone is even stronger
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I wonder if dumping the old fuel. Putting fresh fuel from the pump, not what's left sitting in a fuel can. Wonder how that would have worked.
Simple answer. NO.
experience one 30+ years ago. Dad poured seafoam into a boat motor that sat over the winter with oxygenated fuel in it (back when it first came out). Motor ran full choke, wide open throttle, barely running. Ran around lake for a half hour, and came home purring. I grabbed the can, read what it claimed(sounded like snake oil salesman) but came to understand later that in some cases can dissolve the varnish. Never used B12, but might be similar. My experience...
FYI: commercial aircraft mechanic a&p, federal licensed. Ain't no punk kid whippersnapper.
Berryman's B-12 is is about 90% acetone & 10% toluene. Only use it when you're gonna burn up the whole tank of gas pretty quick (long trip). It does work, but if left in a seldom used vehicle, it will dissolve plastic, rubber, etc. I made the mistake of putting this religiously in a seldom used bronco and I ended up having to replace the fuel tank (plastic lining dissolved), replaced the float (completely gone), fuel filter (media shrunk to where it was filtering nothing), vent grommet (completely shrunk) and other assorted problems. I will still use it, but only when it goes in & then out, in short order. I did hook up a fuel injector cleaning apparatus and run a 2006 chevy silverado off it for one can, and the truck ran MUCH better; so it works well. But just take my advice.
Interesting. I've never had any issues in any of my seldom used stuff.
The ingredients you list do not make up b12. Section 3 - Composition / Information on Ingredients
Ingredient CAS Number Weight
Ethylbenzene 100-41-4 10-15%
Petroleum Distillates 64742-47-8 30-40%
n-Propanol 71-23-8 5-10%
Xylene (mixed isomers) 1330-20-7 40-50%
That's from the b12 msds sheet.
If you don't even know what's in it, how can I trust its what ruined your bronco fuel system?
@@FarpointRestorationsAndRepairsmy guess is this is an old Bronco.
Newer cars are built to run 15% ethanol so probably sone different materials involved because of that. Or better yet an e85 rated vehicle.
Acetone is a very good solvent, it can dissolve most of the rubber and plastics. It is usually hold in steel drums or cans.
Not good for primer bulbs
The ethanol gas that I have been buying at work ( Sams Club) caused cold starting problems, loss of acceleration and rough engine idle. I tried a bottle of Sea Foam and it did a good job, but there was still issues. I tried the B-12 cleaner in my next refill of ethanol free gas. The motorcycle runs like new. This was a tip from my mechanic-it saved me a $100 repair bill. GREAT PRODUCT
Thanks for the info! Your mechanic is also pretty cool for giving that tip
Stuff works great. Vice grip garage turned me to it. Glad to see your using it too!
I'll have to check out his review. It's help many of my old rides, so I thought I'd share that info with the rest of the planet.
@@FarpointRestorationsAndRepairs love the automotive side of farpoint. Cheers from iowa
This video is great can’t believe this isn’t more popular
A few years ago I bought an '02 Hyundai with a the 3.5L Sigma V6 with only 48K on it. I got it from a widower who said it was his wife's car. Great condition with very little corrosion for here in New England. It had likely sat in a garage for long stretches. Quite a bit of sludge came out which I removed by replacing a quart of oil with MMO (Marvel Mystery Oil) for 500 miles. Next change about 1/4 can of Seafoam in the oil for 100 miles, then a flush on the next change. This cleaned things up gently and thoroughly. I continued to get a check engine light for the evaporative emission system, indicating replacement of the solenoid. I bought the part, but continued for awhile to just reset the code. I tried a can of B12 and noticed that the light came on less. Two more cans later and it has yet to return!! Note that thousands of miles with MMO in the gas didn't do this. My bet is that the solenoid was sticking from crud and the B12 freed it. The car may well have had stale gas at some point. I've used it two ways. Put a can in a full 18.5 gallon tank and let it soak over time to clean the whole fuel system, or add it to 1/4 tank or so before a long trip to burn through more concentrated levels for the injectors, plugs and carbon. I've heard suggestions that while effective, B12 shouldn't be overused as it has solvents that can be hard on plastic parts and gaskets. Any thoughts? Looking forward to your MMO review!!
I've used it as a high concentration cleaner as well, and it does help when used that way, but It isn't recommended as it can eat up rubber seals if used pure.
@@FarpointRestorationsAndRepairs Yes. That's why I chose a situation where it was at that strength for less than 2 hrs while driving 100+ miles, then the tank was filled and diluted to below the recommended level for general cleaning.
I believe in this product.
It works! I just added some to my gas during a 5000 mile service on my Mirage.
Had oil consumption on a 2014 Camry, used this product no more oil consumption , worked for me 😊
Glad to hear that- sometimes there chemicals can work wonders
Yes! Thank you! B12 is absolutley good for this use-case. It is a high nitrogen solvent that definitely removes carbon and can do so efficiently. I use It to find vacuum leaks, soak sparkplugs, and I even clean my gun barrels with it. You really get to see it work under those uses. Seafoam was originally designed to use in 2 Stroke Outboards. All it really does is lightly lube the upper end if used in a car. Same with Lucas. But I like B12 because I can see it dissolving carbon immediately.
Always been a fan of B12. When I worked at the dealership, I sometimes used BG 44K. Also worked well, but is far too expensive.
I have a couple of cans of the Berryman B12 Chemtool carburetor and intake cleaner spray. I used it to clean the carburetor on my Kohler engine in my Craftsman LT1000 and it knocked out whatever was causing my engine to surge. It works wonders on small engines.
I bet it would do great on a smaller engine to clean out all the gunk that can build up.
I love using Berryman B12 in my Nissan Altima! My car just wants to go! I see more throttle response and good mpg! I try using Berryman b12 about every 3k or once a month.
B12 sure does add a little pep to my 1980 Pickup as well as giving it a slight (3%) boost in fuel mileage.
@@FarpointRestorationsAndRepairs I’ve seen differences in 1998 100,000 mileage truck Ford F-150
What did u see differently?@@keepitsolidkeepitreal2877
Outstanding, I started using Berrymans about 6 years ago and it works awesome
glad to hear that you have had great luck with it.
I've been using it for a parts cleaning solvent since the early seventies.
I have a gallon of it sitting here right now. But now you are making me wonder. Can this stuff be used in a parts washer?
Any old mechanic will tell you B12 is the best period and I’ve been a life time mechanic
It really does the trick for sticky injectors.
Thank you for doing this video! Definitely, will pick up a can!
At the very least, you'll enjoy the extra MPG's while it does it's thing.
The B12 will help with carbon on newer engines that have direct injection and port injection like my EcoBoost. I read that at idle the port injection sprays over the intake valve but it goes to direct above idle. great video brother 164 in the buckeye state 🫡
Thanks for sharing that tip=
Good video, I have been using both Berrymans and marvel for 40 years now and love the work they do. I have also only used Bestline for over 30 years in the engine oil for fighting friction and would not change. FYI
Thanks for sharing. I have not used bestline before, I might have to check it out
Works great on small engines too.
No need to take carb apart . Run in gas ! Works great .
Good to know! I am sure it will keep it from getting gummed up
This is the first video of yours that I have seen. I found it very informative and I cannot understand how you do not have more followers. I just followed you and look forward to future videos.
This is a new channel, my other channel has 50k subs on it.
I started using B12 with my first car in high school, put it in oil, fuel, and used it to clean carbon from throttle plates
The stuff has been around a long while and it is really good at cleaning the upper intake and valves if you use it with a fogger.
I'll add this to the shopping list!! Awesome Video as always!! Thank you!
It's good stuff, and it's a really good price compared to the competition!
this stuff is really really good. I had a stuck float valve in the gas tank. gas gauge was completely wrong. One can of this and BINGO, fixed. This keeps the fuel system in TIP TOP shape.
Thanks for sharing your good luck with it.
Thanks for sharing. I’ll give it a try. My float is off also
@@jaymorrison5895 i love b-12. another product I know works well is chevron techron. 44k does work very well however it is expensive. I like to use one bottle b12 and one bottle chevron techron. just keep using it until the gas gauge works again.
Hoping I get that lucky with my old k20 😂
Good information video. I’ve been using Berryman since day 1. I am 86 years old lol. Use to use STP slick in crankcase stop knocking.
It's good stuff! Even with inflation the price is still pretty decent too.
I tried fuel additives and I agree with you.
It's just a good cheap cleaner.
I just used a can of this with my fresh synthetic oil change, thanks for the info.
Good stuff! Thanks
BG44K. It work for me ..add one can of BG44K…by my second fill up ..I notice a quieter motor, a more smoother running engine..the plus side 6 tenths of a mile increase in my MPGs..so far…
VERY SAFE and read what it can do for you vehicle’s..cleans gas tanks, fuel lines, fuel filters, catalytic converters injectors, etc..READ there infos ..
Any manufacturer making claims need to be truthful or there will be law suits…
I used to use BG products as a Volvo mechanic- I was very happy with their products, too bad they are so expensive now.
I had engine surging in my Buick Lesabre on my roadtrip down to Montana due to the gas being 85 octane and 10% ethenol. I ran the car down to a 1/4 tank, then dumped a bottle of B12 in the tank and filled up the tank with Costco 87 octane gas. No more surging and the car felt like it gained horsepower.
It probably gave you a bit better gas milage too! This stuff works wonders on gummed up injectors as well.
@@FarpointRestorationsAndRepairs for sure I was getting almost 30mpg even with the back completely stuffed with camping gear, had about 3 inches from the rear wheel well to the tire 😅.
I was researching seafoam and I'm thankful I came across your video. There's not a lot of videos about Berryman's products, but from yours I am definitely going to give it a try! I wonder what other berryman's products that you use and could you please do a video on them too! Also can't wait for the Marvel Mystery Oil video you talked about! Thank you!
Glad it was helpful!. I also use the chem dip and I'll add it to the list of videos to make.
Nice review, Eric! I have used the B-12 Chemtool in the gas tank of my cars since the late 80s. It does an excellent job in helping to maintain the cleanliness of the original injectors and low fuel trims on my Pontiac G6/109k miles. I have to think that it has much to do with a smooth-running engine :)
I'd bet you spray pattern is a good looking as it was on day one. This stuff really works!
@@FarpointRestorationsAndRepairs , I think you're probably right. Heck, my lawnmower gets a bit here and there when I don't have Marvel Mystery Oil on hand :)
It also adds octane I use it all the time . Mmo is a good cleaner too
For direct inject engine, add a oil catch can
Yes, but one some cars that will throw a code, and in some states it will flag for state inspection as a modification that will fail it.
I do think that is a good idea however and if (When) I end up with an engine like this, I will be doing that as well.
Also bad for below freezing conditions as the lines will freeze n cut off all flow and you do NOT want that
Idk if you've ever used Berrymans as an intake cleaner, but seafoam is a great alternative for an intake cleaning as opposed to the expensive shop services. Definitely going to try this stuff next trip to wally world. Great info. Thanks
Yup. It works pretty good as well. I love saving money!
@FarpointRestorationsAndRepairs glad to hear. Definitely getting some. Hustle on good sir!!
I bought a van that had the carb tuned wrong for 20 years. Pinged with ANY decent timing, and dieseled every day when I shut it off. Got about 7mpg and had about 2/3 designed power.
I advanced the timing and dealt with ping.
After 4k miles with 2 changes of 5qt high mileage synthetic+ 32oz marvel, and B12 in every other tank... All of a sudden it doesn't diesel and it lets me advance the timing much more 👍
I was worried about it blowing up from pinging, and it was putting down a solid 90hp 🤣
Now it doesn't diesel, so I know that I haven't been wasting my money and looking like a crackhead pouring all these elixers into my tank.
Sweet! This stuff does work, and I've heard others with similar stories.
The Gumout has some PEA. It’s in the same type bottle as the Sea Foam And Berryman. The Sta Bil 360 amber color has some PEA in that too. I’m running the Sta Bil 360 Amber and my stuff is starting easier than SeaFoam and it very economical. Get ethanol free gas even if people have to drive to get. I don’t use the berryman because I think it would eat the rubber seals o rings on small Carburetor engines. I think once a year or ever 6 months in a vehicle wouldn’t hurt. Don’t let it touch the paint.
All of these cleaners will mess up paint pretty fast.
$2.97 Amazon I have one coming today.
Came here to check the b12 review.. but cant help but notice that the dude reminds me so much of the guy who did rusty rabbit videos on the old mk1's
Small world! Yes, I'm that much older same guy!
I'm a fleet mechanic .... and he is correct ... "B-12" does work ... it is also the only product with a "poison" label on it ...
Gumout is good as well it’s about the same price as Berryman and high in PEA I remember guys using Gumout in the 60s and like any additives it’s good for 3 to 5 thousand miles
SeaFoam was originally made for 2 stroke engines
I'd like to see that borescope comparison. That would make an interesting video.
I'll see what I can do!
Used this with seafoam in my old chevy that was sitting for years and after a few hrs it's running with an electric fp😅
Perfect for bringing cars back from the dead!
great review and a brand I was not familiar with. you mentioned there were better options for top end, fogger application. you mentioned seafoam and MMO, but I have not seen or did I miss your video or comment on using MMO as a fogger? I have seen the seafoam fogger. I constantly get 'up-sale' attempts from the Toyota folks for my 2022 Tundra but $60.. come on!
I prefer the seafoam for fogger- the MMO can but it is better in the fuel/engine.. I worked at a dealer and the upsales were usually just to make money
I just ran a can of Royal Purple through my last tank. I will try this in a couple of thousand miles. I heard Seafoam wasn't all that great for 4 stroke engines as it was originally designed for 2 stroke marine use. Wondering what your thoughts are on that? Thanks for the video.
Berryman is excellent, I am using it for years. Why spend more money on more expensive stuff?
So, Seafoam is one that I just bought to try out. I have no real experience with is as it was always 2X the price of Marvel Mystery Oil and Berryman B12. I'll let you know what I think in a future video.
Royal purple injector cleaner works great also B-12 & mystery oil .
Great video sir.
Glad you liked it!
Better be good. Just got 4 (FOUR) cans landed in Australia for AU $119, that's US $85 total. Not stocked in this country. Hoping to clean up a 50yo Dodge 318.
Ouch! That's a lot of money. I guess the cost of shipping is a killer for B12 down under?
@@FarpointRestorationsAndRepairs Just price gouging I think. Hope it's worth it!
Well... was it worth it?
Many years ago our secretary was complaining how rough her car was running. On my lunch break I hosed down her carb while revving the engine. Huge clouds of smoke was pouring out of the exhaust pipes. Fire truck pulls around her car and wanted to know if the car was on fire. Her nice Olds 442 was the idling smoothly by then. Added a can to her tank and she said her car was so much faster and thanked me as she was going to have it tuned up at the dealer, but now didn't need any service.
I know this stuff works because every time I use it my trucks has black smoke coming out the tail pipe
If a car has a ton of carbon buildup, 2 or even 3 cans of this stuff in a row can really bring it back to life.
Thank you for the video
Would you recommend b-12 for an 82 c10 chevy? Also this is a side question but what is your opinion on the full synthetic oil vs conventional oil for the same vehicle above?
I would, it helps to keep they clean on the inside. I recommend it for all cars, the cost of it is similar to conventional oil, so there is no reason not to--
Is it safe for Japanese cars to use or could you recommend a different one that won’t hurt the system? Thank you.
The words on the can are in English, so I wouldn’t trust it unless you can find some with print in Japanese.
I run a can every 5 k in my Subaru forester when I change my oil .
Good call. It's perfect for that.
You know how when you change your oil, the oil looks clear? If you put Fuel Injector cleaner in your gas will it make your oil get darker, or dirty faster? Also have you ever seen or heard of gas getting into your oil, and showing up on your dipstick? Is Fully synthetic oil better than conventional oil on older engines, I use 10w30
Lots of stuff to cover. Yes, gas can and does get into oil. If the car is running rich, unburnt gas will get into the oil. I recomend full synthetic oil for all cars these days, and fuel injector cleaner should not cause your oil to turn black.
Hope this helps!
What causes alot of gas to get into the oil ?@@FarpointRestorationsAndRepairs
I have been buying it since before it got above $3.00 per bottle!
Shoot, it is not over $4
What do you mean? With Slick 50 you couldn't grab the end of screw driver!
Ha! I remember those ads!!
@ A P-- The commercials where they couldn't pick up the end of a screw driver was not Slick 50. It was STP featuring Andy Granatelli. There is at least one of these old commercials on CZcams.
@@franknew9001 Wow, great catch. I'm guessing your over 30? Haha
@ A P-- Yes, I am over 30. I have had a AARP card for about 10 years. Haha.
Speaking of old oil additive commercials, one that I remember as a little kid from the late 1950's and early 1960's, are the black and white Bardahl oil additive ads. They seemed a little scary to me when I was young. There are several of these ads on CZcams, and be sure to look at the black and white ones.
Be careful using Berrymans it has acetone in it. A very strong chemical that they put in fingernail polish remover. If I were to use it I be would plan on adding it if I had a long drive. Acetone can eat at gaskets and seals. Test it for yourself. Put some Berrymans in a glass bowl and toss in a rubber gasket or seal. Look at it in a week.
Would it help? If I have 2018 Toyota Camry.
I bought this to pour into my crankcase like seafoam can I?
NO! Gas or spray into intake only. This will hurt your engine bearings!!
can eat up the prefilter for fuel pump
That is simply not true.
I'm referrng to higher than recommended doses of it. From my experience it is true when you have an older vehicle with plastic on the pre-filter it can cause it to get brittle and end up stopping up the fuel pump. I've seen guys on CZcams run their motor solely on this. And I have had eat right through a primer bulb trying that on a weed eater there are two different things you want gas additive to do and that's clean the rings and clean the injectors. I've seen the engine with mystery oil before and after and there is absolutely no difference almost no reason to use this at all and as far as seafoam it's naphthalene and it it's trying to free the rings up and make the rings move freely it's really not an instantaneous thing like acetone of the berrymans. Put berryman's in a plastic cup and put seafoam in a plastic cup and see which one lasts the longest. So in some cases it is true that's why I mentioned it. Most of these things are gimmicks there's already tons of cleaners in gas to begin with. They're required to have them in there because it dissolves varnish and gunk that forms on the rings that lowers your compression. Some of things that I've seen were improved compression or seafoam restore and berryman's I like berrymans but it's a lot hotter than the rest of like I said try to come experiment. Berryman's eats right through it I know parts are stronger than plastic cups but it just gives you a sense of what it can do to some things.
How does berryman compare to redline and gumout?
Berry and and marvel oil best!
Yup! Love both brands because they are not too expensive and the work!
B-60 High Mileage is even more powerful than B-12. I'd like to see that versus BG44K
Just bought a newer Volvo (2004) I'll give it a try and report back.
Berryman is legitimate
And it really is the best deal out there. It's 1/3rd the cost of some of the others.
Good content but with Honky music in the intro and at the end
Old song. New song is better.
I know Berryman works. It's made a difference for me.
I always get a boost of MPG's when I run a can in the tank.
Can I use STP intake valve cleaner on 2010 dodge ram 1500 5.7 hemi?
Yes.
This has been my experience!
It's cheap and it really works!
Seafoam is for two stroke engines. It does not belong in any modern engine with O2 sensors, computers etc.
I use B12 once a month in my tank. It looks to be working well for my 2012 F-150 and 2012 GMC Terrain SLE. Should I use an additive to my oil?
Berrymans in fuel, Marvel Mystery Oil in oil.
I need me a can now
When I run B12 Chemtool in the fuel of my vehicles it makes it feel like you added 30hp… nothing else makes my vehicles run as good as Berryman. Seafoam, BG44k, Redline, Techron…. I’ve used them all but Berryman B12 is the best and the cheapest at only $3 or less per bottle….
good point on feeling like there is a bit more HP
Hey there....just bought some at Walmart...they're asking $4.98 a bottle. Do you mind saying where you found it for $3? That would sure help. Thank. Jesus bless.
@@sandrarichardson2713 Hey! Ah they used to be just $3 per can at Walmart, but it has gone up like everything else lately. Amazon had them for just $3-$4 a few months ago but now they’re asking a lot more too.
So, do you add a few ounces of Marvel Mystery Oil along with a can of this B12 to each tank of fuel?
Marvel? Yes. I only use Barrymans once every 5K.
Is these OK on diesel s aswell
Not recommended for Diesel. Use Marvel Mystery Oil instead.
Can I use this in a hybrid?
Yes, no problem at all!
@@FarpointRestorationsAndRepairs thank you👍
One of the better reviews I've seen on CZcams
Is it safe for turbo engine? As i have 2018 mazda6 GT turbo ..
Yes you can
Have you tried ATS fuel system cleaner?
Can't say that I have heard of that one.
This stuff will eat diaphragms in fuel pumps
I've been running this stuff since 89 and never had that issue.
I like to tinker and fix on my engine rather than giving it cancer juice.
Cancer Juice? B12 works in a way that "Tinkering" won't cure. Unless tinkering means replacing injectors, and pulling cylinder heads to decarbonize valves and piston heads.
Can't fix stupid. Probably a trump supporter 🙄🙄🙄