How to use the diminished scale - Jazz Piano College
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I've just come across your videos, you're explaining things I've always wanted to know but have never found. Thank you!
Thank you. It was something I really wanted to know.
Absolutely love this, so helpful - thanks, Tony!
I went to the link I'm a serious player and teacher and have some good stuff on mine but minimal jazz. thanks for getting back to me and giving me the link for a louder video.
Changed my whole approach to practice thanks for these great videos 👍
Fast paced, useful and interesting lesson 🔥🙌🏾😎💫
hi Tony great tutorial I was wondering when you do those diminished licks Peter call them a lot of furies and when Peter do the licks he called them Furious but they really sound like I was wondering if you can do a tutorial and really actually slowed down so I can get my finger used to running up and down but diminish lick to sound complicated really another words like I know what I'm doing
This was crucial for me to understand…
E dim scale over C⁷
B dim scale over G⁷
[Major third diminished scale over dominant root]
Note…
You would NOT play a C dim scale (C, E♭, G♭, A) over C⁷ (C, E, G, B♭).
That’s because a C⁷ (C, E, G, B♭) contains an E natural (not E♭, G♭, A).
Therefore you’d begin the diminished scale from the major third.
For C⁷, begin the diminished scale on E
(E, G, B♭, D♭)
…notice how the first three notes of the diminished scale (E, G, B♭)
are part of C⁷ anyway (C, E, G, B♭)
which is why it works so well.
The only thing you’re adding on to the C⁷ is the last note, D♭, which is the flat nine (D flat). So E diminished is just a rootless C⁷♭9.
I agree with everything in your comment and I'm glad you have grasped this concept. Small correction... you are describing diminished chords when you list the notes parenthetically. E diminished scale ( E, F#, G, A, Bb ......) for example.
Ahh, thank you. More insights 🙌🏾✨ So the scale is the whole-half or half-whole steps, while the chords are minor thirds 😎💫 Thanks again 💯
Very helpful, thank u!
usefull a lot thanks Tony you great br
Very helpful!
a great one here!
Excellent, thank you so much. Just to be clear the diminished scale can be used on the dominant 5 chord leading to the 1 chord right?
Yes that is right. Be sure to start the diminished scale with a half step. G7 use scale g ,Ab Bb B C# etc
SeanLeonDrums yes,that is right
Hey Tony, I thought I give this one another watch. Got a question, does the 13 have to be a natural 13 in order for you to do a diminished run on a dominant? So if the 13 is flat we would have to use the altered scale for that correct?
Yes that's right. That's if you want the scale to match the chord. Al the other tensions should be altered, flat 9, sharp 9, sharp 11. However it's more important to have a strong melodic idea than to worry about being harmonically perfect
@@TonyWinston got it, thanks for the clarity, love what you're doing, been a sub for yrs, love both the jazz and classical workshops
GRAZIE
8:08 “where’s that fucker” 😂😂
I feel like Mr. Rogers' Neighborhood used this kind of thing. That was some time ago already...
Looks like on the c7 b9, you are using fingers 2 on db , 3 on d# , thumb on e , not sure about 3 on f# , follow though with thumb on g, 2 on a , 3 on bb thumb on c , d b ..I know it is close.. down loaded the PDF been working out the best fingering for the diminished and Dominant7b9....There is a lot of work here ..Thanks for the PDF link.. Nice voicings. But other than to give texture to your playing, where does the minor chord movement at 8. 39 fit into songs.. I personally am not a follower of Thelonius, and this sound like him to me.. Monk is way too advanced for me. I enjoy some of his work ,. but it is a style that I have yet to appreciate , understand and incorporate into my playing. Maybe if this had a simple base line on a base guitar it would sound more harmonic. sincerely Paul from pianostyle100.
You said the C half-whole step scale can be used for Eb7, F#7 and A7. But how about the other chords? For example B7? Anyway great video!
Nevermind I found out which scales are for what chords!
Glad you got it. I'll be doing an update to this video soon
Still having problems with the voice being muted..it happens when you turn away from the piano.
Lol at 8:07
Noticed that you used F#7 dominant. Of course you are going up in minor 3rds. C..Eb..F#.. A.
I get that F# here is not just a Gb, but a F# is a #11 note from C root.
I see that Bmaj7 is a choice in # chords vs a possible Cb mag7. The appear to be enharmonic equivalents. No hurry.
8:07
am gonna wprk on that....then i will tell you how it's doing
that is not a C dim scale that you are using.
Correct. On a C7 chord you don't play the C diminished scale. I should make a better video!
If you could slow things down a tad , I'd be grateful. But thanks anyhow.
Again I agree, thanks for your comment.
Please slow it down
Raef Black you can slow it down to .75 or .50 by simply selecting that option in the CZcams speed setting.
He teaches so fast i cant follow
I know. Way too fast!! try this one: czcams.com/video/VAt57O6w490/video.html
@@TonyWinston thank you... I need a teacher to help me out 🙂
I love your style Tony, but this lecture was a mess. You are mumbling...
The exercise using the 2nd inversion of major triads of components of the C dim chord over the broken D flat diminished chord is beautiful but explains nothing. I came away rather frustrated.
I'm going too fast for sure. Too much coffee
I learnt tonnes in the 8 min 39 sec. Thank you.