Flavius' Girl - Ancient Roman Song
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- čas přidán 17. 01. 2024
- Music and vocals by Farya Faraji, lyrics by Gaius Valerius Catullus. This another one of my attempts at conveying a historically accurate sound of what Ancient Roman music would have sounded like based on the known facts. In my opinion, the best place to start for reconstructing their music is the poetry: Ancient Roman poetry used the interplay of long vs short vowel lengths and stress accent to create rythmic effects to the poetry, not unlike modern rap does. This gives us a direct insight into some rythmic structures preserved by the phonemic quality of the language.
This poem, known to us as Catullus 6, is written in the Phalaecean Hendecasyllabic metre of eleven syllables, which musically, translates to a 9/8 time signature in a musical framework. Given the close proximity between poetry and music, and the lack of profound distinction between the two in the eyes of the ancients, we can be surmise these odd time signatures such as 9/8 would have been the norm for the Classical world.
Therefore, I based the structure of this song entirely on the recitation of the poem, and simply added musical notes to the pre-existing rythmic skeleton, using what they called the Dorian Chromatic mode, and building the instrumentation around my reconstructed Greco-Roman lyre, frame drums, a flute and ancient cymbals, all of which were in use back then. Knowing that poetry was often recited musically, I believe this example to be one of the most plausible possibilities of what their songs may have sounded like. The pronunciation used is Restored Classical pronunciation, which is the same pronunciation Catullus himself would have used.
Catullus is one of the great Roman poets of the late Republic, who wrote in the Neoteric style, a style that was somewhat rebellious for its day in contrast to the established norm, since the Neoterics purposefully moved away from the epic scale of gods and heroes rooted in Homeric poetry, and instead embraced more personal issues like personal love, or an artist's identity.
Lyrics in Latin:
Flāvī, dēliciās tuās Catullō,
nī sint illepidae atque inēlegantēs,
vellēs dīcere nec tacēre possēs.
Vērum nescio quid febrīculōsī
scortī dīligis: hoc pudet fatērī.
Nam tē nōn viduās iacēre noctēs
nēquīquam tacitum cubīle clāmat
sertīs ac Syriō fragrāns olīvō,
pulvīnusque peraequē et hic et ille
attrītus, tremulīque quassa lectī
argūtātiō inambulātiōque.
Nam nīl stupra valet nihil tacēre.
Cūr? nōn tam latera ecfutūta pandās,
nī tū quid faciās ineptiārum.
Quārē, quidquid habēs bonī malīque,
dīc nōbīs. Volo tē ac tuōs amōrēs
ad caelum lepidō vocāre versū.
English translation:
Flavius, of your darling to Catullus,
if she were not unpretty and inelegant,
you'd be wanting to speak nor could keep quiet.
But you love I don't know what of a feverish
harlot: it shames you to admit this.
For that you don't spend the nights single
your speechless bed screams in vain,
fragrant with garlands and Syrian oil,
and the mattress equally on this side and that
worn away, and the creaking and
movement of your shaking bed.
There's no point in being quiet about your debauchery.
Why, you wouldn't reveal such sexually tired
sides unless you were doing something silly.
So, whatever good and bad you have,
tell us. I want to summon you and
your love to heaven in my witty verse. - Hudba
Music and vocals by Farya Faraji, lyrics by Gaius Valerius Catullus. This another one of my attempts at conveying a historically accurate sound of what Ancient Roman music would have sounded like based on the known facts. In my opinion, the best place to start for reconstructing their music is the poetry: Ancient Roman poetry used the interplay of long vs short vowel lengths and stress accent to create rythmic effects to the poetry, not unlike modern rap does. This gives us a direct insight into some rythmic structures preserved by the phonemic quality of the language.
This poem, known to us as Catullus 6, is written in the Phalaecean Hendecasyllabic metre of eleven syllables, which musically, translates to a 9/8 time signature in a musical framework. Given the close proximity between poetry and music, and the lack of profound distinction between the two in the eyes of the ancients, we can be surmise these odd time signatures such as 9/8 would have been the norm for the Classical world.
Therefore, I based the structure of this song entirely on the recitation of the poem, and simply added musical notes to the pre-existing rythmic skeleton, using what they called the Dorian Chromatic mode, and building the instrumentation around my reconstructed Greco-Roman lyre, frame drums, a flute and ancient cymbals, all of which were in use back then. Knowing that poetry was often recited musically, I believe this example to be one of the most plausible possibilities of what their songs may have sounded like. The pronunciation used is Restored Classical pronunciation, which is the same pronunciation Catullus himself would have used.
Catullus is one of the great Roman poets of the late Republic, who wrote in the Neoteric style, a style that was somewhat rebellious for its day in contrast to the established norm, since the Neoterics purposefully moved away from the epic scale of gods and heroes rooted in Homeric poetry, and instead embraced more personal issues like personal love, or an artist's identity.
Lyrics in Latin:
Flāvī, dēliciās tuās Catullō,
nī sint illepidae atque inēlegantēs,
vellēs dīcere nec tacēre possēs.
Vērum nescio quid febrīculōsī
scortī dīligis: hoc pudet fatērī.
Nam tē nōn viduās iacēre noctēs
nēquīquam tacitum cubīle clāmat
sertīs ac Syriō fragrāns olīvō,
pulvīnusque peraequē et hic et ille
attrītus, tremulīque quassa lectī
argūtātiō inambulātiōque.
Nam nīl stupra valet nihil tacēre.
Cūr? nōn tam latera ecfutūta pandās,
nī tū quid faciās ineptiārum.
Quārē, quidquid habēs bonī malīque,
dīc nōbīs. Volo tē ac tuōs amōrēs
ad caelum lepidō vocāre versū.
English translation:
Flavius, of your darling to Catullus,
if she were not unpretty and inelegant,
you'd be wanting to speak nor could keep quiet.
But you love I don't know what of a feverish
harlot: it shames you to admit this.
For that you don't spend the nights single
your speechless bed screams in vain,
fragrant with garlands and Syrian oil,
and the mattress equally on this side and that
worn away, and the creaking and
movement of your shaking bed.
There's no point in being quiet about your debauchery.
Why, you wouldn't reveal such sexually tired
sides unless you were doing something silly.
So, whatever good and bad you have,
tell us. I want to summon you and
your love to heaven in my witty verse.
Primus
AVE ROMA! AVE FARAJI!
I am not sure, what i should think about this poem.. but it makes me smilin'❤... a MMC old roman Rap
Fratres, let it sink in we've legitimately got a nearly 21 centuries old disstrack in front of us. 😂
Poor Flāvius, whoever he was😂 It seems Romans knew how to burn people not only on the battlefield or the arena 😅
Flavius has been real quiet ever since this dropped.
We makin' it outta Rome with this one! 😤💯
Horny jail.
WE MAKING IT OUT OF THE FORUM WITH THIS ONE🗣🗣🗣🔥🔥🥶🥶@@dhu1919
I wonder what Flavius did to piss off Catullus so much that he wrote a hendecasyllable roasting him and his girl that was going to be be read for millennia after the diss track was written. Fratres! F in the chat for Flavius.
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POV: Average Roman Senate arguments
Downvoted, not enough naked 70+ political leaders slapping teenagers with damp strips of goat skin.
I guess politicians remain the same no matter if it's Ancient Rome or modern Rome.
@@soumajitsen1395lol
The recording is quite good considering this is 2000 years old
Farya after snorting some olives "*Aawwgghhh yesss!!*" Now I will rap in Latin!
When Latin becomes ROMANCE!
"Romance"
this is not romance 😭😭
@@syedbakhtiyar9457 yall dont get the pun
Gotta say, non-martial and Roman music has to be my favorite. Numas Time tops my #1 spot for your tracks, reminds me of the music of Synaulia. It's the droning aulos for me personally, it really adds onto the atmosphere, like chamber music. It's those kinds that really really take me back to the era.
I hope to also see more pre-christian Roman religious music, like a pagan version of the lord's prayer/kyrie eleison you use with the Rome lietmotif!
Damn, that was a sick burn for Flavius!
This is awesome!
The way you explain the reconstruction, seems very cogent. This may indeed be the closest we get to hearing real Roman music.
Outstanding as usual Farya. You make the ancient past come alive again. You also made me pull my volume of Catullus' poems off the shelf. I guess it was time.😉
I wouldn't want to be Flavius right now 💀
Wow. Just wow. The way you bring these ancient songs back to life. The amount of research that goes into this in order to make it authentic. You're a gem Farya, believe me your hard work must pay off, you deserve a lot more. That's all I have to say.
Another masterpiece from Farya! Greetings from Russia from a history student! Roma Invicta ❤
Based profile picture comrade!!
@@rizzospastis Thanks bro! My paternal ancestors are from the DDR
rome was authoritarian
I haven't even studied Latin formally but I thought this sounded like Catullus! A little sing-song but in a good way that's not afraid of slant rhymes. One favorite by him is Lesbia's Sparrow.
Hi Farya,
This was very interesting to me as I was checking the prononciation for the latin which you privided. Great stuff as always. Loved the "unusual" rythm to this one as well
I am a huge fan! Thank you for all you make. Have you ever considered making a song about the Seleucid Empire that combines Greek and Iranian styles?
Or even a Ptolemaic song, that combines Greek with native Egyptian styles. That could be sweet also.
He came, he saw, he dropped killer beats.
It would appear that Rap music was indeed the real traditional music of the West
Catullus 16 next?
That's one of the greatests ones, and exactly what I needed!
@Farya Faraji, Greatings from Brazil.
I have some ideas for your great musics.
Roman Themes that I love it.
The Legio X - Equestris was the best one of Caesar. I really recommend you to make a Epic Roman theme.
The feeling that you can convey about this Legion, in music, is at the beginning, low drums, "announcing the approach", then low trumpets, violins, cellos or instruments to convey the power and reverence that this Legion had.
Something similar the Perseus theme in God Of War II
I’d love a song on the 10th and also a song about emperor Majorian would be great
Carmen hoc pergratum est mihi. Per saecula quidem, o Faria, lauderis pro omnis operibus quibus illustras vitas nostras miseras!
Catullus never misses! Will you posting this on Spotify as well?
You can now participate in Eurovision from Vatican
That is certainly one of your best in my opinion Farya
oh yeas, finally he's releasing some other roman bangers
Great as always it's an honour to listen to your music ❤❤❤
I am adicted to your music
I loooove your work! Thanks for it, following here and listening a lot on Spotify. Hugs from Brazil!
Amazing as always!
Good lord, what a banger! Thank you for this wonderful track.
please please please do a series on the music theory behind different cultures of the past. A lot of your viewers (myself included) are probably musicans, and that would be so rad to learn.
*Newsreader From HBO Rome Series:* “😤Citizens of Rome! ☝🏻Muscian Farya has just released ✊🏻✋🏻a new single 🤔👋🏻 named Flavius’ Girl 😳☝🏻… true Roman music 🖐🏻for true Romans 😅👋🏻👋🏻👉🏻”
Beautiful piece Farya
Amazing work brother
Apart from the obvious masterful interpretation of Ancient Roman music and a classic poem, nice use of castanets!
Please please make more Roman music like this, I really enjoy them :)
Absolutely love that you sing in Classic Latin! It was such a beautiful language 😍
i love to listen to your music, while playing total war
It’s so similar in so many ways to what we’d call a Balkan or Greek tune…Actually it’s quite basic compared to them. Thank you for this, it was quite an eye opener.
I saw the title and i thought "is this going to be a Catullus poem?" he really is the guy of very specific dissing roman poetry lol (there is also Martial but i haven't read him)
I've been studying latin poetry for a few years and I've always loved hendecasyllable in particular, ive never heard it set to music before though. Im a big fan!
Farya No! You've gotten stuck in mosaic again!
This is incredible.
Like an ancient Rap bro!!!
To add to this, the groups Synaulia, Musica Romana and Ludi Scaenici are good examples of authentic takes on Roman music. This song was giving me some vibes of those three artists for sure. Also, the broken English in that translation is hilarious.
Your music is fire!🔥
I mostly like Roman and Byzantine songs. Hope one day you'll make song for Scipio Africanus as you do for Belisarius (My two favorites Roman generals).
Love you man.❤
rhythm at the beg sounds like a ancient rap song lol
Farya, as a Turk, I love all your songs very much, they lift my spirits and remind me of the old days, I have a request from you, can't you write an ancient song in memory of your költigin?
Wonderful work as always! May I ask what kind of lyre is in use? That muted strummy sound is so interesting
Great Song as always!
Brother, I was wondering if you could make a song based on "Θά'ρθεις σαν αστραπή"?
Would be great and please continue your work!!!
I see greek, i like.
Αυτοκράτορ τον Ρωμαίον, Κωνσταντίνος Δραγάτσης Παλαιολόγος
I'm still learning Greek, I hope I remembered the spelling correctly
@@robinrehlinghaus1944 It's great! The only correction is 'Ρωμαίων' instead of 'Ρωμαίον'. :)
@@winterwolf34 Thank you! :D
@robinrehlinghaus1944 in general, pay more attention to Ω and Η. I know it's very annoying since it's just something you have to remember in every word and it's barely even pronounced anymore, but words will still look wrong without it. We really appreciate the effort!
Pretty much ancient Roman rap
Great song!
dang thats some sick beats
Perfect
Brilliant, knew I was gonna like it before it started
can you do some ancient Chinese music next
I love Chinese history too
My top 10 favourite Chinese dynasty & States
1. Tang Dynasty
2. Han Dynasty
3. The 3 Kingdoms (3rd century CE)
4. Song Dynasty
5. Jin Dynasty (4th Century CE)
6. Ming Dynasty
7. Qing Dynasty
8. Shang Dynasty (Bronze Age)
9. Qin Dynasty of Ying Zheng (嬴政)
10. Sui Dynasty
@@ShahanshahShahinAsked for ancient Chinese music, not what your favourite Chinese dynasties were
Could you do Sufi Persian or Turkish songs please? I still come back to your master piece track (Lion Roars) in Manzikert.
great ❤
my friend who goes by flavius online got a kick out of this lmao
Eminemus Marshallus Matherus has been real quiet since this dropped
Catullus the goat
Браво❤❤❤
Bro what the fuck did Flavius do to deserve this 💀
Incredibilis
Why is the time signature considered odd? Is it just dependent on the perpective of the listener or is it a mathematical thing? Caveat: I don't know anything about time signatures.
It's called odd both for mathematical reasons, because in this case of 9/8, 9 is an odd number, but also because it's a term unique to Western music theory.
Western music theory is naturally written with a Western perspective, and any time signature outside of simple double and triple time signatures (4/4, 3/4, 6/8) is extremely rare in Western music.
This one made me smile.
Farya you've done it again!
When can we expect more "Balkan" music?
Let's be real, Balkan music is always on the way
nice
Ancient Roman Hip Hop.
Roman rap omg my life is complete
Ancient Roman diss track just dropped
Nada mal, sinto que o latim combina mais com músicas de guerra do que românticas… mas achei bastante legal!!!
Roma invicta!!!
Roma aeterna!!!
Kkkk essa música n é nem um pouco romântica, apesar do que o título pareça implicar. É um poema sacaneando o tal Flavius e seus hábitos na cama 😂
Illud Opus Pulchrissime Est. Gratias Domino Farajo. Ego Scio, Cantam Tuam Optissimam Est.
Make an alexios komnenos song
POV: That kiddo Virgil challenges you to a bard battle.
ухтыж, оригинальный римский речитатив
Salve!
Friday came early today bois!
wellcome
We making it out outta the Aventine Hill with this one
👍👍
I'm not even Latin and yet i felt a personal connection to those flutes
Nobody is latin, Roman ethinicity is lost to time
@@NotSoJonathanDingleberryThere are at least 5 Latin nations in Europe, your statement makes no sense
Yeah im dumb I just remembered that like 2 hours ago@@ITALICVS
Farya is a god😩😩😩😩😩😩😩😩😩😩😩😩😩😩🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥💙💙💙💙💙
Ancient roman diss track
как же качает
This caught me off guard thinking it's going to be something like Viviamvs
La primera tiradera de la historia
I can tell you’re Scorpio Martianus friend haha
“Flavio’s not coming!”
Roman rap?
First? I guess. My friend's telling me to do this
Can you imagine if they played that during Catholic Mass?😃
Yeah, like a good old fashioned burn for Satan😂
roman rap?
Set the video at 1,25x. You are welcome
Pray for Catullus
I like you very much. I am proud of you. I would very much like you to play a music belonging to the Talysh nation with your mother. ❤️👏🏻
El cantar del Mio Cid 💀
Hillarious, now we all need Flavius to answer this nonsense 😂
If you think of it, if we bring back rhythmic poetry in modern world, it'd fit nice. Reading this, I thought "they had good rappers back in Rōmā..."
*rappers
@@aeaeeaoiauea AH SHITE, OH F#CK
Before Helena by My Chemical Romance, there was this!