I used to have a 2017 STI, which was great but it never really felt special. My 2019 Type R just has that special factor.. it feels like you own one of those special jdm cars from the 80s/90s but this is new and this is now! Modern classic!
Idk man had a 2016 STi myself and it was like a badge of honor to possess. I had guys taking pictures of it and were like “You’re so lucky”. Unfortunately it was lemon. Bought it brand new,kept it stock and Couldn’t keep it out the shop. Sold it after year and half.
@@mcleodkirk1 We just bought a 2019 sport turbo used guess what it has a muffler delete already 18k with 17k miles half the price of type R and quick now we will put on a cold air intake for 200 bucks and we have a cheap little rice burner.
The majority type r owners are 35 and above. It’s a hot hatch for adults who did have the luxury to get on in their 20s. Not many teens could afford a $40k hot hatch.
Another great review! Spot on! This car is a modern classic. One youtuber said if you don't love your car, you bought the wrong one. I have a 2019 Type R and LOVE it! I applaud Honda for making it the way it looks. Simply put, if someone doesn't like the way it looks, it was not made for them. The insane mark ups show us they are not having any issues moving these cars. Fortunately I was able to get mine a few months ago at sticker. I had to drive an hour away to get it but I was able to get it at sticker. It was a huge BLESSING! I just went to a local Honda dealer to look for some accessories and they had one 2020 Type R left in the showroom and it was already sold! It went for $10,000 over sticker! Someone bought that Type R for $50,000 and they were happy to do it so I don't think Honda is too bothered about some people who say the car is "ugly". Keep up the great work! I truly believe when everything goes electric and the feel of actually driving a car is killed people will be looking back at cars like the Type R and kicking themselves for not getting one when they had a chance.
I got my 2019 Type R for 40k out the door, came with a couple extras too. They drive like a car that is more expensive.. definetely worth the money. FWD car that handles like a Porsche. Pretty fast too from the factory. So far I only change the steering wheel to a Mugen and got a cat back exhaust. The last thing I may do is a short shifter, then thats it... it really shifts great from the factory almost feels like a gated shifter. I just kind of want it to be even shorter.
from my understanding, honda corp doesn't profit from the dealer mark-ups. Only the dealer does, because dealers buy the cars from the OEM at a relatively fixed price. If anything corp suffers, because it's a fact that many choose not to buy these due to the markup. But it's comforting to know they haven't suffered enough for honda corp to call the type R quits
Yo, call Patty Peck Honda in Jacksonville, MS. Kristi Weaver..... she will hook you up at MSRP all day I bought my PMM fk8 delivered to my front door in Texas. Smooth transaction. California no different
jimmydaves oh darn! That's where I got mine earlier in the year..... I found the dealership at the time using Autotrader.com. Called them up and that was it. Perhaps you can try autotrader and get lucky then! I hope it works out for you because the R puts a smile on face every time I lay eyes on it.
I fell in love with this car from the first moment it was announced, I remember walking in the dealership and seeing a Championship White Type R behind Velvet ropes... at the time it looked like an Exotic car to me and Honda was treating it like one, they would not even let me sit in the car... I would not end up getting one until 2 years after that (2019) but have been loving it so much. So many track days done, so much spirited backroad driving... really no problems. Only issue i had was the getting the fuel pump recall done and a tire blowout which was my fault... other than that the car is SOLID. It likes to get beaten on, it loves to rev... upgraded my brakes, suspension and went with 18 inch wheels with wide tires. Oh and definitely get an Exhaust.... Milltek is the best in my opinion, but go with whatever you Exhaust like best.
$38k "affordable" then you go into the dealer, +markup, +packages, +fixed interest rate, +financing fees = $60k+ total. I know... I just bought one. No regrets. My other friends keep telling me that with that kind of money I could've just gotten myself a Lexus. BUT A LEXUS AINT A TYPE R!!!!!!
Hey Forrest, just wanted to say that your review is what made me finally make the jump and put a deposit on a 2021 Type R in sonic grey pearl! Gonna be my first manual car after practicing with my friend for a few months and i’m so excited! Thanks for your great content ✊🏾👏🏾
I went to buy a 2020 but couldn’t get pass the boy racer looks and the dealership was selling above MSRP. Figured I would need to change the 20” wheels and for close to $40k I need to love it not just appreciate the performance aspects.
I felt the same way about the looks too. There was a spy shot of one in Europe without the big wing and it had a more subdued smaller wing and that’s when I realized it just doesn’t look right without the big wing. The rest of the aero stuff I really like. Obviously it’s just my opinion but for me I didn’t want a performance car that looked just like every other car out there. Besides most of the aero is functional. The looks make it stand out and I have such an easy time finding my car in a parking lot. Also some people don’t want to be seen in this car but come on, that’s a self image thing imo and they want a BMW or Mercedes to make them look good, imo. I got over the boy racer looks and the car is rewarding. I have it for a daily driver and I love it. I have 18” for winter with snow tires (Boston area) and when I swapped the 20” inch rims back on it’s like night and day. I drove my 80 year old mom around and the car was so smooth on the highway she had no ideas at one point we were cruising at 100mph, it’s so comfortable at that speed. Plenty of room and a big hatch area for loading stuff. Don’t know where you are but in Massachusetts when I got mine in Nov. 2019 there was no mark up. Got it at sticker. Some people are getting them below sticker. But yeah, I agree with you. You need to love it all around. Might not be for you.
Thanks for the review again! I'm on the verge of purchasing one and I've been trying to convince myself to find more reasons not to own one that opposed to owning one. So far I've found more positives that negatives. My motivation to get one is so that I can experience the thrill of driving a manual transmission again, and these types of cars are slowly being phased out of the market. Being one of the last to own one of these would be a delight. On a monetary point of view, these cars hold their value and don't depreciate as well, so in a year or two if I find myself in some financial trouble or if that it's not a long term ownership for me, I can always sell or trade it in without having to take that much of a financial hit. That's a positive.
The Type R is actually rather quiet compared to my old STI at least. Even with an exhaust on my car its not bad at all. The sound deadening is very good from the factory. I have a 2019 so no fake sound on my car.
If the US would offer a more subtle rear wing option and 18 inch wheels option, I would be interested in this car. It projects an image that I personally don't want to carry around at my age but I would love driving one all the time.
I would have preferred the ability to purchase the subdued "Sport Line" version of the Type R that is available in Europe, but they all look the same from the driver's seat which is all I care about. It has been 40 years since I bought my first brand new Honda hatchback so I don't quite fit the target demographic for the 2020 Civic Type R. That doesn't bother me as I enjoy this newest purchase. I am about to turn 400 miles on the odometer so the excitement is just beginning!
If I was back in my 20's, I would have bought the Type R in a heart beat! I did settle on buying a 21 Civic Hatchback Sport which I am very impressed with in regards to performance and handling for an everyday driver!
Derek Scheeler when the type r dropped in the US in 2017 I automatically loved it so I decided to switch to manual and leased a Honda Civic, I also had to learn how over a weekend cause I had to drive to work so if I was able to do it so can you brotha.
Sure it is. Wait 5 years to get it at $24k/put $4k down, $400/month for 4 years and have an asset of $18k. I did it with my S2000. Bought it for $18k. Will sell for $15-$16k now or put it towards a Type R... Still deciding
pwally2714 with all due respect my guy your S2K is worth so much because Honda doesn’t make it anymore, and it is becoming extremely collectible now. Honda will always make the Type R in some form or another and they’re not going to retain value in quite the same way as the S2000. If you held onto that car longer eventually you will sell it for more than you bought it for.
@@shenkichin6295 all respect taken, friend. Hope all is well. Agreed, and to piggy back off what you say, yes, the type r will not be made anymore soon and also they are making a limited yellow type r which hints it will be lower production than the s2000
Totally agree 👍 anything over about$25k is more than most people should spend. Cars are way too expensive for the quality and reliability we get for our money. Some people can and will justify hamburgers 🍔 for $6 or more but I can't and it has nothing to do with what I can afford. Just because I can afford something doesn't justify the cost, in my opinion.
T Morris I mean dude you can always by a civic from the 90s for a few grand if that’s what you want to do instead. The brand new type R isn’t really made to be affordable
Nice review. First time on your channel, and I like your more laid-back style and honest real-person approach. The stuff you talk about is more relevant to me than all of the racetrack comparisons. hell, I live on a dirt road in northern New England, so race track performance is sort of irrelevant! I also like that you point out the pros and cons, but in the context of what the car is and how much it costs. You can remedy every one of the deficits you point out...if you buy a car that costs twice as much. No free lunch!
Great review! I totally agree with your assessment about the colors. This "Sonic Gray Pearl" color and the "Boost Blue" probably look the coolest, with the default "Championship White" and that new bright yellow also looking good. I also agree regarding the exterior aesthetics of the back hatch... I know it's functionally aerodynamic, but that's the part that looks like it was designed by Homer Simpson. Looks like a ton of fun to drive and I want to sit in those comfy seats now, lol.
I drive the 2020 Civic hatch EX-L sonic grey pearl that became the basis for this facelifted type r, and man... Strong foundation of this type r is why i wonder why the continued talk with needing to value Tesla model 3 over the civic, when you have much better value (both now and in future) with the civic, especially in the type r version in terms of package, comfort, features, performance, versatility... everything :) Got the Civic EX-L only because I didn’t need the performance factor, but if i favored it and wanted manual transmission, Type R would’ve been the car I’m driving now. Still, even in my Civic EX-L, almost everything good about the type r is in the Civic EX-L as well, even without the 2.0 L VTEC Turbo. There’s no doubt... the best way to describe how good this type r is, is to simply say, this is the integra Type R of today, and it helps that the integra and civic are mechanically related to each other :)
The alcantara wrapped steering wheel is the biggest letdown of the entire Civic Type-R because it's going to get dirty af real quick, and my OCD cannot stand it. If I had a Type-R, that's the first thing I would try to change, swap it out for a new 2019 wheel from the dealership parts counter, or a BuddyClub wheel or something. Otherwise, I love the Type-R and will strongly consider one when I'm ready.
Great review, I'm in the UK and bought a nearly new civic in polished metal metallic, lovely colour. It's not a type r but handling and ride is superb + lane assist us great on motorway
I just put a 1k deposit to make this car mine in the meantime which will then be converted part of my down payment. It will be arriving in September to my Dealer! I CANNOT WAIT!!!
I'm not sure they didn't plan these updates in advance to keep the car fresh and marketable. They probably could have done these updates years ago. I believe this to be true of almost any car.
Type R is probably the best modern car to learn stick on. The clutch is not heavy but gives lots of feedback. The car auto rev matches your downshifts and the shifter is very easy. The car also has an anti stall feature, it is almost impossible to stall the car.
That grey almost looks like destroyer by Dodge and unfortunately discontinued it this year, but really like the replacement for it and is called smokeshow. It has a vey slight blue hue to it, much like the type R and is also gorgeous paint. However, it's lighter than the Mopar color and isn't as dark as ether one of them. That's a sweet looking car and like it a lot. I've thought about wrapping my challenger srt8 in it and would look so synister
The civic type r destroys the competition over the sti, focus rs, golf r, and veloster. It’s the king at the Nurburgring, and it’s my dream car and my favorite car over all the competition over a mustang or camaro, it has everything I need with the best fuel economy in a sport car.
You can literally remove the infotainment yourself a couple clips and screws... but why would you really? That's barely a weight savings. Your better off just removing the back seats.
I really like this car and everything it represents. Unfortunately, I need more of a cruiser and you can a get a stinger GT for the same price as this. Either way, great review man👍🏾
Great review. In Canada they get a blind spot camera in the right hand side mirror. Not a fan of the Alcantara steering wheel, will get matted down and shiny in no time. Hope they bring back a leather option wheel for 2021, and an active exhaust a la the Veloster N.
Really nice indepth review; Hoping to buy one in spring of 2021. Just have to decide if I get the SportLine here in europe. I do like the wing actually, but the sportline does have sound insulation against road noise...
Nice review! I did want to correct your one point with the wheel arch vent. air comes from the hood vent for down force and doesn't serve any heat management purpose.
The Veloster N is a beast and super fun to drive. The biggest difference is comfort and capabilities. The Type R will monster down a curvy road, not beat you up, and maintain a level of composure that will legitimately make you forget its FWD. No understeer, extremely light torque steer, and the ability to lay the power down even mid corner. Drive one and I promise you will be impressed! Not saying you should get one over the other but they each have their pros & cons. Type R is more expensive, refined, extremely rewarding to drive, and dialed in. The Veloster N sounds incredible, is more affordable, still very fun to drive, and a little more funky.
I do wish there were maybe a dual clutch option for those of us with disabilities and unable to drive a manual. I understand that it’s not an option though, it’s just not the vision they have for the car. So wish i could get in one 😕
Whenever I see one of these I gotta slow down a little bit, stare a little bit and nod. Can't wait to get one
I know the feeling bro 💯💪
Same!!
lol same. I've seen a few in the last couple days. I think it's a sign
Did you ever get one?
I used to have a 2017 STI, which was great but it never really felt special. My 2019 Type R just has that special factor.. it feels like you own one of those special jdm cars from the 80s/90s but this is new and this is now! Modern classic!
Idk man had a 2016 STi myself and it was like a badge of honor to possess. I had guys taking pictures of it and were like “You’re so lucky”. Unfortunately it was lemon. Bought it brand new,kept it stock and Couldn’t keep it out the shop. Sold it after year and half.
Honda just delivers on that driver feel even when their cars aren't fast. My 2006 Civic Si is slow as hell but it still has that fun factor.
At 65, I’m seriously thinking of buying it!
I don’t think you’ll regret it, good luck!
I'm 57 and have a downpayment on one. Should see it in April 2021. If you love driving, what are you waiting for? You only live once.
@@mcleodkirk1 We just bought a 2019 sport turbo used guess what it has a muffler delete already 18k with 17k miles half the price of type R and quick now we will put on a cold air intake for 200 bucks and we have a cheap little rice burner.
My elderly neighbor was really excited to see this in the driveway. Everyone loves it!
The majority type r owners are 35 and above. It’s a hot hatch for adults who did have the luxury to get on in their 20s. Not many teens could afford a $40k hot hatch.
Another great review! Spot on! This car is a modern classic. One youtuber said if you don't love your car, you bought the wrong one. I have a 2019 Type R and LOVE it! I applaud Honda for making it the way it looks. Simply put, if someone doesn't like the way it looks, it was not made for them. The insane mark ups show us they are not having any issues moving these cars. Fortunately I was able to get mine a few months ago at sticker. I had to drive an hour away to get it but I was able to get it at sticker. It was a huge BLESSING! I just went to a local Honda dealer to look for some accessories and they had one 2020 Type R left in the showroom and it was already sold! It went for $10,000 over sticker! Someone bought that Type R for $50,000 and they were happy to do it so I don't think Honda is too bothered about some people who say the car is "ugly". Keep up the great work! I truly believe when everything goes electric and the feel of actually driving a car is killed people will be looking back at cars like the Type R and kicking themselves for not getting one when they had a chance.
I got my 2019 Type R for 40k out the door, came with a couple extras too. They drive like a car that is more expensive.. definetely worth the money. FWD car that handles like a Porsche. Pretty fast too from the factory. So far I only change the steering wheel to a Mugen and got a cat back exhaust. The last thing I may do is a short shifter, then thats it... it really shifts great from the factory almost feels like a gated shifter. I just kind of want it to be even shorter.
from my understanding, honda corp doesn't profit from the dealer mark-ups. Only the dealer does, because dealers buy the cars from the OEM at a relatively fixed price. If anything corp suffers, because it's a fact that many choose not to buy these due to the markup. But it's comforting to know they haven't suffered enough for honda corp to call the type R quits
@@gravityhammer25only people saying it handles like a Porsche haven’t driven a Porsche.
Still 7k over MSRP here in third world country Southern California
Yo, call Patty Peck Honda in Jacksonville, MS. Kristi Weaver..... she will hook you up at MSRP all day
I bought my PMM fk8 delivered to my front door in Texas. Smooth transaction.
California no different
Hi Gene thanks.
Go on true car and whatever price they have on there for the car, have the dealership match it. Thats what I did.
@@genetung8590 - Patty Peck Honda doesn't have the Type R in stock.
jimmydaves oh darn! That's where I got mine earlier in the year..... I found the dealership at the time using Autotrader.com. Called them up and that was it. Perhaps you can try autotrader and get lucky then! I hope it works out for you because the R puts a smile on face every time I lay eyes on it.
you can really tell the difference between forrest then, and forrest now in his short videos! by far my favorite car review content creator👍🏽
when ur driving thru curvy roads and the person in front of u likes to have fun it’s the best
I fell in love with this car from the first moment it was announced, I remember walking in the dealership and seeing a Championship White Type R behind Velvet ropes... at the time it looked like an Exotic car to me and Honda was treating it like one, they would not even let me sit in the car... I would not end up getting one until 2 years after that (2019) but have been loving it so much. So many track days done, so much spirited backroad driving... really no problems. Only issue i had was the getting the fuel pump recall done and a tire blowout which was my fault... other than that the car is SOLID. It likes to get beaten on, it loves to rev... upgraded my brakes, suspension and went with 18 inch wheels with wide tires. Oh and definitely get an Exhaust.... Milltek is the best in my opinion, but go with whatever you Exhaust like best.
Looks exotic definitely. So no issues yet?
I'll get type r over any sport car
We have officially entered an era when a $38k Civic is considered "affordable" lol
$38K is definitely not affordable for most but this also not any “civic”
Have fun getting one for 38k lmfao
@@ci6516 Someone should at least be able to buy a Type R for no more than 40k out the door with tax.
You can go pick up a used Focus ST and tune for under $15,000. You’d be getting the same power and same or better practicality
love the car but I'm not down with dealers ripping me off. I'll never buy a hyped up car for more than its msrp! 👋
There are reviews, and there's this. What a excellent work, makes me feel like I'm the car. Just wish the POV cam were lower.
$38k "affordable" then you go into the dealer, +markup, +packages, +fixed interest rate, +financing fees = $60k+ total. I know... I just bought one. No regrets. My other friends keep telling me that with that kind of money I could've just gotten myself a Lexus. BUT A LEXUS AINT A TYPE R!!!!!!
I paid 60k too over here in Puerto Rico, this car is a modern day classic worth having.
A 92-95 hatch is my favorite. They should have made a 2 door Type R. The 4 doors makes it look like a station wagon.
Thanks for those rolling shots really allows you to appreciate how great the aggressive design of this car is.
Been waiting for your review on this! Awesome job as usual! 👏🏽
I'm really not into tuner cars anymore but I really appreciate a well thought out review. Honda has come a long way. Thanks for the thorough review!
Learned a ton about the changes for 2020 from this video, Forrest. Thank you!
The option without the wing looks so wrong... :D
I mean it has a little spoiler, I kinda dig it
Yeah it loses like.. All seriousness to me and just goes down to a sport. That wing is beautiful.
Not sure how if differs from other reviewers or if your camera postioning was different but the POV you did was awesome, well done!
This Honda Civic Type R looks great in Grey 👍 Good everyday livability, practicability, and reliable performance
I think you are one of the few Americans that know how to drive a manual, as for the review you did an amazing job, really loved it, thanks bro !!
I have a 2018 CTR and I have not had a better driving experience ever. The value you get for the price is honestly unbelievable. Excellent review!
Between you and Joe Raiti the two best car reviewers. I like that you speak to the actual day to day use of the car!!!
Hey Forrest, just wanted to say that your review is what made me finally make the jump and put a deposit on a 2021 Type R in sonic grey pearl! Gonna be my first manual car after practicing with my friend for a few months and i’m so excited! Thanks for your great content ✊🏾👏🏾
So overstyled ....and i love it😁👌
That was by far the best car review. Precise, quick, and to the point with preferences.
I guess now we know which car beat Type R's Nurburgring FWD record. It was that elantra.
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣👍
I went to buy a 2020 but couldn’t get pass the boy racer looks and the dealership was selling above MSRP. Figured I would need to change the 20” wheels and for close to $40k I need to love it not just appreciate the performance aspects.
And change the exhaust as well, or a muffler delete 😒
@@jayespi37 This has already been attempted. No exhaust change or muffler delete make it sound significantly better. It's just how the engine is.
@@xFlared check out armytrix, its honestly sick
I felt the same way about the looks too. There was a spy shot of one in Europe without the big wing and it had a more subdued smaller wing and that’s when I realized it just doesn’t look right without the big wing. The rest of the aero stuff I really like. Obviously it’s just my opinion but for me I didn’t want a performance car that looked just like every other car out there. Besides most of the aero is functional. The looks make it stand out and I have such an easy time finding my car in a parking lot. Also some people don’t want to be seen in this car but come on, that’s a self image thing imo and they want a BMW or Mercedes to make them look good, imo.
I got over the boy racer looks and the car is rewarding. I have it for a daily driver and I love it. I have 18” for winter with snow tires (Boston area) and when I swapped the 20” inch rims back on it’s like night and day. I drove my 80 year old mom around and the car was so smooth on the highway she had no ideas at one point we were cruising at 100mph, it’s so comfortable at that speed. Plenty of room and a big hatch area for loading stuff.
Don’t know where you are but in Massachusetts when I got mine in Nov. 2019 there was no mark up. Got it at sticker. Some people are getting them below sticker.
But yeah, I agree with you. You need to love it all around. Might not be for you.
Admiral Ackbar Thermal R&D sounds really good.
Thanks for the review again! I'm on the verge of purchasing one and I've been trying to convince myself to find more reasons not to own one that opposed to owning one. So far I've found more positives that negatives. My motivation to get one is so that I can experience the thrill of driving a manual transmission again, and these types of cars are slowly being phased out of the market. Being one of the last to own one of these would be a delight. On a monetary point of view, these cars hold their value and don't depreciate as well, so in a year or two if I find myself in some financial trouble or if that it's not a long term ownership for me, I can always sell or trade it in without having to take that much of a financial hit. That's a positive.
Damn college's loans vs type R
This was the best Type R review I saw so far (and I saw many) :D Keep it up. Greetings from Austria
Its official: imma start saving up for this car. Excellent review 🙌🏾🙌🏾
3 years ago but did you ever do it ?
Can't wait for Forrest's review of the 2021 TLX SH-AWD. I am sure it's going to be a blast to drive.
I’m pumped to drive it! You know....for you guys! 🙃❤️
@@forrestsautoreviewsofficial Suuuure, you drive the Lamborghini's and McLaren's just for us...uh huh. I'd believe that... :)
Love the color, this car will age well, visually it has so much character!
"affordable"
"civic type R"
choose one.
lol, you read my mind.
You can't expect a Type R to be quiet in the cabin, buddy.
Install some sound dampening panels and your good to go
Yes you can.
Since it needs artificial sound pumped in.
The Type R is actually rather quiet compared to my old STI at least. Even with an exhaust on my car its not bad at all. The sound deadening is very good from the factory. I have a 2019 so no fake sound on my car.
If the US would offer a more subtle rear wing option and 18 inch wheels option, I would be interested in this car. It projects an image that I personally don't want to carry around at my age but I would love driving one all the time.
I would have preferred the ability to purchase the subdued "Sport Line" version of the Type R that is available in Europe, but they all look the same from the driver's seat which is all I care about. It has been 40 years since I bought my first brand new Honda hatchback so I don't quite fit the target demographic for the 2020 Civic Type R. That doesn't bother me as I enjoy this newest purchase. I am about to turn 400 miles on the odometer so the excitement is just beginning!
The best review of this car I’ve seen, thank you for doing such quality content bro!
24:00, dangerous road for any vehicle. 1 misstep and OAK tree 5 ft off road. great vid, i would be a slo driver and just put put if purchased.
If I was back in my 20's, I would have bought the Type R in a heart beat! I did settle on buying a 21 Civic Hatchback Sport which I am very impressed with in regards to performance and handling for an everyday driver!
Never really had a dream car but i think i might just have to put this on my wish list 💯
I'm saving my money for the new revamped look for 2022
same here
Jsut get a infinity q60 black edition
Just added this to my wish list though I don't know how to drive a stick 😂
get yourself an old toyota or honda manual for about 2k and learn on it.
Hahaha same here!! Can’t wait until my current lease is up but I also have to learn how to drive a stick 😂
Derek Scheeler when the type r dropped in the US in 2017 I automatically loved it so I decided to switch to manual and leased a Honda Civic, I also had to learn how over a weekend cause I had to drive to work so if I was able to do it so can you brotha.
Honda reclaimed the record with the 2021 type r limited edition
"affordable"
Cars this price aren't affordable by 90% of the population and are too expensive for like 50% of people
Sure it is. Wait 5 years to get it at $24k/put $4k down, $400/month for 4 years and have an asset of $18k.
I did it with my S2000. Bought it for $18k. Will sell for $15-$16k now or put it towards a Type R... Still deciding
pwally2714 with all due respect my guy your S2K is worth so much because Honda doesn’t make it anymore, and it is becoming extremely collectible now. Honda will always make the Type R in some form or another and they’re not going to retain value in quite the same way as the S2000. If you held onto that car longer eventually you will sell it for more than you bought it for.
@@shenkichin6295 all respect taken, friend. Hope all is well. Agreed, and to piggy back off what you say, yes, the type r will not be made anymore soon and also they are making a limited yellow type r which hints it will be lower production than the s2000
Totally agree 👍 anything over about$25k is more than most people should spend. Cars are way too expensive for the quality and reliability we get for our money. Some people can and will justify hamburgers 🍔 for $6 or more but I can't and it has nothing to do with what I can afford. Just because I can afford something doesn't justify the cost, in my opinion.
T Morris I mean dude you can always by a civic from the 90s for a few grand if that’s what you want to do instead. The brand new type R isn’t really made to be affordable
First thing I would need to do is replace those 20" wheels with 18"s and get a steering wheel cover so I don't destroy that nice wheel.
BEAUTIFUL car, Honda had great cars. I would definitely, get the Type R.
Can’t remember the last time I drove a high-revving peach... I’M SUBBED UNTIL I DO! 👊🏾🧔🏾
Simply the best.
Although I do not like the styling.
Noise and hard plastics.
That colour looks awesome! Good review my man!
If you press the unlock button once then wait a few seconds and hold it the windows will open until you let off the bottom or fully opened
Nice review. First time on your channel, and I like your more laid-back style and honest real-person approach. The stuff you talk about is more relevant to me than all of the racetrack comparisons. hell, I live on a dirt road in northern New England, so race track performance is sort of irrelevant! I also like that you point out the pros and cons, but in the context of what the car is and how much it costs. You can remedy every one of the deficits you point out...if you buy a car that costs twice as much. No free lunch!
Great review! I totally agree with your assessment about the colors. This "Sonic Gray Pearl" color and the "Boost Blue" probably look the coolest, with the default "Championship White" and that new bright yellow also looking good. I also agree regarding the exterior aesthetics of the back hatch... I know it's functionally aerodynamic, but that's the part that looks like it was designed by Homer Simpson. Looks like a ton of fun to drive and I want to sit in those comfy seats now, lol.
I’m jealous of those roads! Looks so fun.
I drive the 2020 Civic hatch EX-L sonic grey pearl that became the basis for this facelifted type r, and man... Strong foundation of this type r is why i wonder why the continued talk with needing to value Tesla model 3 over the civic, when you have much better value (both now and in future) with the civic, especially in the type r version in terms of package, comfort, features, performance, versatility... everything :)
Got the Civic EX-L only because I didn’t need the performance factor, but if i favored it and wanted manual transmission, Type R would’ve been the car I’m driving now. Still, even in my Civic EX-L, almost everything good about the type r is in the Civic EX-L as well, even without the 2.0 L VTEC Turbo.
There’s no doubt... the best way to describe how good this type r is, is to simply say, this is the integra Type R of today, and it helps that the integra and civic are mechanically related to each other :)
The alcantara wrapped steering wheel is the biggest letdown of the entire Civic Type-R because it's going to get dirty af real quick, and my OCD cannot stand it. If I had a Type-R, that's the first thing I would try to change, swap it out for a new 2019 wheel from the dealership parts counter, or a BuddyClub wheel or something.
Otherwise, I love the Type-R and will strongly consider one when I'm ready.
Enjoyed your review. Can't believe they aren't using LED interior bulbs in 2020.
Great review, I'm in the UK and bought a nearly new civic in polished metal metallic, lovely colour. It's not a type r but handling and ride is superb + lane assist us great on motorway
Hopefully you bought the Civic Hatchback Sport Touring that is made in the UK. It looks incredible also.
Thank you for sharing your review with this nice looking beast car! I'll be parking this car in my new garage.
I just put a 1k deposit to make this car mine in the meantime which will then be converted part of my down payment. It will be arriving in September to my Dealer! I CANNOT WAIT!!!
Mtbragley 39k
Great job. Knew I recognized some of those streets
Are you local?
Yeah grew up in the area. How about you?
I'm not sure they didn't plan these updates in advance to keep the car fresh and marketable. They probably could have done these updates years ago. I believe this to be true of almost any car.
I believe that they were under a tight deadline to release the car. Being a Civic they also have a strict budget to maintain the target price.
Can’t wait until my current lease is up, but I also have to learn how to drive a stick😆😅
Type R is probably the best modern car to learn stick on. The clutch is not heavy but gives lots of feedback. The car auto rev matches your downshifts and the shifter is very easy. The car also has an anti stall feature, it is almost impossible to stall the car.
That grey almost looks like destroyer by Dodge and unfortunately discontinued it this year, but really like the replacement for it and is called smokeshow. It has a vey slight blue hue to it, much like the type R and is also gorgeous paint. However, it's lighter than the Mopar color and isn't as dark as ether one of them. That's a sweet looking car and like it a lot. I've thought about wrapping my challenger srt8 in it and would look so synister
The civic type r destroys the competition over the sti, focus rs, golf r, and veloster. It’s the king at the Nurburgring, and it’s my dream car and my favorite car over all the competition over a mustang or camaro, it has everything I need with the best fuel economy in a sport car.
I liked your attention to detail. Nice review
Give us what we want... No screens, no apps, no options like lane assist... Wtf... Give us a $31k Type R!!!
You can literally remove the infotainment yourself a couple clips and screws... but why would you really? That's barely a weight savings. Your better off just removing the back seats.
Championship White is the best colour as it represents the championship in 1965 in F1 racing winning
I really like this car and everything it represents. Unfortunately, I need more of a cruiser and you can a get a stinger GT for the same price as this. Either way, great review man👍🏾
Stock exhaust sounds weak but i may appreciate that for daily driving especially in summertime in az
You could always take it to a mod shop to increase sound by changing exhaust or take out the silencers
The honda thats on the hunt for Jake and his Scoobydo STI
That first intake you mentioned isn’t for cooling it’s where the horn is
Great review.
In Canada they get a blind spot camera in the right hand side mirror.
Not a fan of the Alcantara steering wheel, will get matted down and shiny in no time.
Hope they bring back a leather option wheel for 2021, and an active exhaust a la the Veloster N.
I would consider if they get rid of the front and rear fake vents on future gen. I would also replace the wing with a smaller one.
Verdict? Veloster N or Type R for difference in $? Great review! 👍
A starting price of 44500 euro where I live takes it way past affordable for me... But I love the toned down Sport Line version!
Would you mind sharing your camera and mic setup please? Looks and sounds clear. 🙏👍
I read somewhere about the audio sounding much better when you turn off the auto sound increase/decrease function..
My dad owns one of these and it's his favourite car and he doesn't let anyone drive it😂😂
Really nice indepth review; Hoping to buy one in spring of 2021. Just have to decide if I get the SportLine here in europe. I do like the wing actually, but the sportline does have sound insulation against road noise...
Great review Forrest as usual. Can you try and get your hands on a special edition Lexus GS before production stop next month?
Great review, now I want one in the exact same color !
Nice review!
I did want to correct your one point with the wheel arch vent. air comes from the hood vent for down force and doesn't serve any heat management purpose.
Great review💯
For the people saying it’s just a civic, well the “just a civic” is as quick as an M2c. And the M2c is a 80-90k + car. So uh yea.
Awesome review still waiting for more suv reviews
Just found your channel. Great content and review! New Sub 👍🏼
For the price, I think the volester N iz a better buy! Plus exhaust sound better too
The Veloster N is a beast and super fun to drive. The biggest difference is comfort and capabilities. The Type R will monster down a curvy road, not beat you up, and maintain a level of composure that will legitimately make you forget its FWD. No understeer, extremely light torque steer, and the ability to lay the power down even mid corner. Drive one and I promise you will be impressed! Not saying you should get one over the other but they each have their pros & cons.
Type R is more expensive, refined, extremely rewarding to drive, and dialed in.
The Veloster N sounds incredible, is more affordable, still very fun to drive, and a little more funky.
I really want one of these. Super jealous you got to do this review 😎
Did you mention that they brought the volume knob back for 2020?
1 of my dream car.
I would totally get this type R in a heartbeat. If I knew how to drive Manual😭 AMAZING CAR❤️
You can learn, it’s very easy, believe me. And after you know how to drive a manual, everything without a manual would seem boring lol
You can simply learn it at just about any driving school for under $100
Great review as always! Love the color on this car!
I do wish there were maybe a dual clutch option for those of us with disabilities and unable to drive a manual. I understand that it’s not an option though, it’s just not the vision they have for the car. So wish i could get in one 😕
Just imagine if they had a si hatchback? Too good to be true. Cause everyone would just get the si hatch
I probably would have went that route. In a few year's I'll probably move from the Si sedan to the Type R.
Nice review. Picking up mine, 2017 🇬🇧 model in polished metallic grey. My 40th pressie lol
SNAP!! I bought a Black 17 plate for my 40th. Best present ever! Where abouts in the UK are you? I'm Bath way.
@@edboyle5637 congratulations! Awesome cars. I'm in Berkshire
Your driving video is spectacular! What type of camera and where did you mount it?
yo another cat named Forrest let's goooooo!
it's annoying that a $40,000 car is considered "affordable" but someday man!
Spoon Type R's soo amazing!
@Forest’s Auto Review, I have a question. Would you recommend this car or the Dodge Charger?
It looks like a transformer machine...so many angels and wings
I agree, and I really like the looks. It sort of has a samurai soldier look to it.