The Worst Crash That Never Happened
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This documentary provides an in-depth look at close-calls at US airports, where a collision was only narrowly avoided.
Written by Leon Herres and Norbert Vorstädt
Images via Getty, AP Newsroom
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Air traffic controller
*almost watches 4 planes get utterly annihilated*
Also air traffic controller: “yeah I saw that”
I can't even imagine... one guy with FOUR more planes on the runway and how many incoming still? Now he has a shaken up pilot having to go around and still make it to the ground.
@@playgroundchooser and worse, you have to one controller thinking about that accident whilst controlling other traffic. The concentration is lost and it can only get worse
All involved stayed extremely calm. Thank goodness people like that are running the important stuff and not emotional wrecks.
Not much he could really add by that point, better to save a further conversation and comments for when everyone was safely on the ground.
@@Fr33zeBurn yea I keep expecting raised voices, but they are very professional which I love
As a pilot, I can tell you that while this confusion may seem unbelievable, I can guarantee that brains are really, really weird. I once mistook for the runway a field that was _90_ degrees away from it. A runway I landed over _hundreds_ of times, and the reason is that it was just as green as the other runway, and I was looking frantically at the airspeed indicator due to wind. Fortunately I realised immediately and I felt as if one part of the brain slapped the other in its damn brainface and shook it out of it, then proceeded to align with the correct runway. That event still resonates to this day. Flying is hard, and brains are easily tricked, and you will feel like an idiot afterwards.
Confirmation bias is a scary thing in aviation. Happens to even the most experienced pilots.
I admire in this industry that admitting mistakes and own limitations is one of the most important qualities to become an excellent pilot.
Hits you right in the brainface
As a layperson, this makes me feel like a lot of procedures would be developed with logical and clear-headed people in mind, while a human being very often is much less logical or clear-headed than one would assume of themselves. And that this would be the reason for a lot of hazardous situations - procedures assuming that pilots always behave logically and won't do stupid mistakes, procedures whose safety can easily be accidentally broken by someone doing something very stupid as all of us mere mortals sometimes do.
I'm regarded as a very smart and reasonable person myself, and yet there have been so many times that I've narrowly missed dying because of my own mistake that in retrospect seems idiotic. If you know about electricity and your friend shows you his spark machine that has 20 kilovolts at the end of a tree branch, it should be crystal clear that you will not bow close to the branch to extinguish it if it catches fire from the arc. Had I went just a little closer, I would've died right there. Design operational protocols with morons in mind, lives cannot depend on assumptions that people behave and decide like reasonable adults and have good situational awareness everywhere, everytime.
@@MrOspi My favorite "old saying" is..."There are old pilots and there are bold pilots, but there are no old bold pilots." I'm proud to say I'm an old pilot.
The way the controllers voice shakes when he apologizes and thanks the fedex pilot for their professionalism has me in tears
Not exactly professionalism if you consider that he shouldn't have ordered the other to abort, but they did good not dying for sure.
@@likeablekiwi6265 I think professional in the sense that they acted in the way they thought necessary while staying calm and focused without panicking or blaming someone etc., not in the sense of following the rules and official procedures
He acted in a precise and calm manner in a very stressful close call. That’s professionalism at its peak.
Omg me too, that was a surprisingly wholesome exchange lol.
What astonishes me everytime I hear the radio exchanges for incidents like this is how calm everybody always is.
Most of pilots are well trained men… screaming doesn’t keep you alive
The worst thing you can do in an already bad situation is panic
@@wakkhc6301 approx 3.4% in the US are well trained women - the issues with discrimination regarding gender in that particular industry are well documented
@@nukaghoula Oh ffs he said most, MOST!
@@nukaghoulaOfc a women commented this 💀
I bet ur the kinda person who says men have more rights than women 😂😂
"Where's this guy going? He's on the taxiway!" could easily be something said in Flight Sim multiplayer. It's crazy how these two small sentences saved so many people's lives and probably avoided a second Tenerife disaster.
This would've been so much worse than Tenerife. A landing aircraft plowing through four others on the ground... chilling to think about.
@@Sirithil 1000+ deaths , survivors would be few and far in-between.
@@Sirithil Looks like it would have only taken out one or two
it looked like it would have been worse than Tenerife.
@@Sirithil dont forget the fact the sfo airport is surrounded by water and these planes were probably the closest you can be there, extra scary
It's wild how the one pilot's decision to say "Where's this guy going? He's on the taxiway" made the difference. That one dude (and ATC) speaking up or not speaking up seemed to make all the difference.
I mean, there will be generations of people to come that won't even know that the only reason they're here is because that pilot noticed something was wrong and spoke up.
@@jigbizzer bros like: get a load of this guy, flying over the taxi lane like a nerd
@@jigbizzer damn what a noob, doesnt even realize hes in the wrong lane. get good you casual
Humans are fallible and fatigue and complacency will always result in mistakes. I don’t blame the Air Canada pilot at all…..poor soul likely felt very ill for days after. There should’ve been 2 controllers on duty and there should never be visuals at night into such a large airport, even if it’s not massively busy. Think about when you’ve skidded on black ice and nearly crashed your car into oncoming traffic - the adrenaline punch after that. The poor AC pilot must’ve been in a Hell of a state after. Accidents will always happen where humans are involved. At least this mishap did not result in any deaths and protocols were changed at SFO. Flying is still safe but airlines need to make sure their crews are given adequate rest periods - I used to be a nurse and doing mixed nigh/day shifts really messes with your circadian rhythm. That and the adrenaline that’s built up after flying a tin can full of living souls for days at a time must be a nightmare to wind down from…..airlines cut costs though and don’t allow enough rest periods for pilots and as a result, fatigue and stress is going to have an effect.
@MJ true this situation was just a series of unfortunate events, but gladly it didn't result in any bodily harm. Hopefully it will serve as lesson to all.
bros backseating
As a pilot I can tell you, confirmation bias is almost impossible to escape. Mind plays more tricks than you think.
im flying next month and now im scared
@@bubblesqueak835statistically speaking, the most dangerous part of your day will be the drive to the airport; there are many, many more fatal car accidents everyday than there are aviation accidents (especially ones that result in fatalities). notice how there's thousands of flights and planes departing and landing every single day and yet accidents happen so rarely? try to relax and enjoy your flight! 🫶🏻
@@bubblesqueak835Plane crashs seem popular but are actually very very rare, your more likely to get in a car crash, do not be worried
@@bubblesqueak835don’t be, airline flights are ridiculously safe. statistically the most dangerous part of your day flying will be spent driving to/from the airport.
Considering that there are something like 45,000 flights PER DAY in the US, its honestly insane that there are so few incidents. The odds of a passenger plane crash today are 1 in 11,000,000. You're probably safer on a jet than in your bed.
you're thousands of times more likely to die while driving to the airport compared to being on the plane
Yes but the odds of surviving a plane crash is also 1 in 11000000, basically it is death.
Arent jet crashes wayy more common than commercial flight crashes
@@amw_catsWell commercial aircraft are usually jet aircraft .
@@amw_cats Most commerical flights are flown by jetliners though?
Its insane how well trained these pilots and air traffic control are to avoid some of these. all of them seemed inevitable that a crash would happen
As someone in a flight school I can say that there's a ton of training but there are still lots of tasks to juggle and plenty of possibilities of mistakes. That being said there are tons of rules and procedures (most written in blood) that create what we call the "swiss cheese model". The first accident discussed could've been prevented by mandatory rest, taxiway lights are a different color than runway lights (pilots should've noticed), taxi, beacon, and landing lights were on (on the aircraft holding short), an ILS approach should've been programmed, there was a NOTAM for a closed runway(notams suck though, even the FAA president said nobody reads them, there are far too many),etc etc. Luckily the united pilot saw how far off centerline the pilot was and radioed ATC.
It's experience, training and knowledge of their planes. The FedEx was likely sure he'd be able to pull up in time, and was aware of him not moving for a while, so likely had pre-planned an emergency go around. Their actions and skill is amazing, but generally planes follow very straight lines which takes away a lot of guesswork then you'd have say swerving out the way of multiple cars, where they are likely to panic and change direction without warning. Not to say it's not impressive in the slightest, but that knowledge definitely helps them avoid potential issues.
@@largosgaming since you have knowledge on this, can you explain to me why tf at 15:49 FedEx, upon aborting the landing and seeing the Southwest at V1 speed didn’t just take a sharp turn to get tf away from the Southwest? Was the irl situation too fast to react that quickly, do planes take too long in changing their directions so they rather focused on outclimbing.. what’s the reason? Also I‘m curious about the first almost-accident he portrayed, would the aircraft crashing into the first plane likely have affected the other planes lined up behind?
@@Ingenius_ Not an piolit haha but I can gaurantee in the first instance if the plane would have landed on the first plane every plane would have gotten fucked. Passenger airlines land at 130-160mph and that is a massive piece of metal.
@@Ingenius_ FedEx had no way of knowing Southwest was already taking off, plus there is the issue of other planes in the general airspace.
Imagine having this happen to you during takeoff and never knowing it happened. What goes on behind the scenes of flights is truly mind boggling.
You'd probably hear the plane from above
Suree
i'd like to see their reaction when they heard about it in the news later
@@technomanuel if i was at an airport and i heard a plane above me, i would think that was normal
@@adog3129 You would not know how loud it is
As a pilot in training, a southwest pilot being told that a 767 is on a 3 mile final and then just sitting there taking their sweet time is ridiculous, they must have had some kind of technical problems because usually they don’t even stop moving when taxiing out onto the runway to takeoff
Which means that the rules allowing another plane to use the same lane before it’s in the air is super stupid.
@@kantai3309 No they aren’t, they do it all the time with no problem
@@aristarchinski272 because there’s a 100% guarantee that a plane takes off with no problems, right?
Normally the second plane is informed to go around way earlier. Like way earlier if something is wrong. But yes, I also don't like these procedures. They should not be allowed to clear for landing while another one is cleared for takeoff.
That’s what I’m saying! The video made it seem like having the SW plane go first while warning that there’s another plane coming is fairly routine. that warning should imply to SW, to hurry up!! It literally takes 15s to be in the air, and they stayed there for minutes! It was totally SW’s fault for stalling in that scenario. Also the one at JFK NYC, the pilot didn’t follow directions!! You have to identify the correct issue to identify the correct solution. Sure there are extraneous circumstances, but these pilots need to be well rested. They need to make those radios more clear, speak slower idk. I’m not a pilot but I can see myself missing words cuz they talk so quiet, fast, and the sound isn’t clear. There needs to be better coordination and organization within these control towers. This plus the Boeing incidents lately.. are scary for a layperson like me who happens to travel for work. Also, wild but unsurprising fact, Boeing just murdered the whistleblower who uncovered how terrible the quality control really is at Boeing. He was shot in the head with a note, but he told his family friend not to believe any claims of suicide. He was scared for his life and companies can just murder people these days without getting in trouble so yeah… Boeing isn’t improving anytime soon.
well... something similair just happened today on january 2. 2024, a Japanese Airlines plane with over 300 passangers collided with a Japanese Coast Guard plane, all the passangers and crew made it out, but the Coast Guard pilots weren't so lucky, may they rest in Peace 🕊❤
Greeting the new year in a traditional Japanese way
Yeahhh……
😢😢😢
It was only a matter of time before someone died in such an accident.
Was it BOEING??
There’s roughly 1,000 ppl who were in SFO and don’t realize their lives were seconds away from being very different. I hope that pilot got some type of recognition for speaking up.
not just different, completely over. That's what makes it even crazier.
More like very shorter.
He was doing his job and trying to not die. Those are not heroic things. They do not need exceptional recognition. Everyone who works in the airline industry, from the flight and cabin crews to the ATC and airport maintenance do the same thing every single day.
It's worth a pat on the back though@@darkprose
well there was a time when Cockpit relationships were different. SOme cultures had more of an issue with this. So basically the Pilot is the SENIOR officer and everyone else typically "obey's their orders. They have seniority and "experience' and so younger/less experienced pilots may not speak up, BELIEVING that the senior officer KNOWS what they are doing. Yet sometimes they are like WHAT ARE THEY DOING? but don't speak up. This has caused accidents. Some cultures this is more ingrained and that caused an accident. Cause no one spoke up. So because of that issue all training across the world is supposed to train that out of them. Cockpit communication is a serious issue and if something is amiss. folks should be able to speak up and question it @@darkprose
Thanks to this video I have now gone from zero stress while on the tarmac to feeling more safe in the air 😂
LOL, my take away as well! the mind is weird because the video also shows how it's getting safer and safer.
90% of all aviation accidents happen while taking off or landing.
@@robmausser I feel way safer now taking off!
That's because that's a fact. Vast majority of accidents and incidents happen during take off or landings. It's very rare for something to happen during cruising.
It's not the 'tarmac,' it's the taxiway, but yeah.
20:33 A somewhat personal connect I have to the MH17 flight disaster is that I was actually almost on that flight myself. It was connecting flight from Amsterdam to Kuala Lumpur my father and I were taking on our way home to Australia. My dad had originally planned for us to take that flight on the Thursday but we decided to stay longer with family until the Friday. The flight we took was the exact same save for the day - same route, same airport, same time, same everything. My ticket even said MH17.
Funnily enough though, due to my already existing flight anxiety as a kid, my dad had frantically blocked me from seeing any news coverage of it not only for the next few days until our other flight from Kuala Lumpur home but at all... Which means I found out when I went to school the next week and one of my friends rushed up to me and told me "OH MY GOD I THOUGHT YOU WERE DEAD". Bit of a dark way to find out I was very very lucky.
5:40 that clip is so scary. The airplanes in their entirety, look so much smaller from a distance, but if you actually pay attention, you might be filled with a sudden feeling of dread and fear, and anticipation of the lives of thousands who could have died from such a small mistake.
Wow 😮 insane
I was actually on Air Canada 759, Seat 22A which was a window seat. I remember at the time wanting to get home badly since before then I was in China on vacation and I hated it, and I hated the fact we had to transfer through Toronto to get back to San Francisco. The whole flight from Toronto to San Francisco wasn't terrible, but I scared a little after flying over a thunderstorm over Minnesota or Wisconsin (I don't remember which one it was). The moment before the near collision I was just waiting for the force of the landing gear tread along the pavement just to remind me that we were actually gonna make it home, but when the plane dove upwards, me and my mom next to me were completely shocked and were all sorts of confused why we didn't just land. The plane still landed with no accidents (thankfully) and I got off the plane wondering what happened. To my surprise, I saw the incident made it onto my local news one morning and I've never really forgot the incident ever since, especially since I was 13 at the time and I never had such a close encounter to death ever. To this day I still have my yellowing and decaying, but still legible Air Canada Flight 759 ticket hanging in a picture frame on my wall, a pretty morbid trophy compared to the other ridiculous things hanging on my wall.
I'm glad you made it out alive.
No idea what it must be like imagining what so easily could have happened to you.
i had absolute chills reading this comment, thank god that the accident didn’t happen and that you and all the other souls are unhurt.
@@ironfistgaming8945 7/7/2017 was nearly 6 years ago
I think most of us have narrowly avoided death by the time we’re forty, if not at an airport.
The quality of these videos is so high; it's honestly incredible. It's also incredible how quickly the tower and the planes can communicate to prevent incidents from happening. That said, they should never have had a chance of happening, ever.
Right? I loved the previous one too
Can't forget a 74gear episode, controller becomes unconscious (I don't remember what it was, a stroke, something medical). She's alone in the tower. The pilots realize there's no controller and talk to each other, cooperating. They try calling tower, no answer. Call the airport, no response. Finally 2 pilots call their companies and ask them to call the airport.
After that, someone runs to the tower, finds the controller out, calls for an ambulance, gets another controller and landings start.
The controller had a medical problem which was successfully treated, but said she was "too ashamed" to return to work. She felt the responsibility, and thought nothing should have stopped her.
Not a very good report on the airport, no one answering calls! But the pilots were on it.
Neo is such a good storyteller and the 3d modelling is great coupled with the real traffic control comms he dug out for this it was truly a masterpiece
Everyone always acts like these and other videos are "incredible" but yet tv and movies have been doing equal quality stuff for decades. It's great that he can do it, but it's not rocket science. Edit well and create good 3d models using existing software. Could most of us do it? no. but could most of us make any tv show? of course not. yet we don't sit back in awe at those like some people do for good CZcams videos. I think it's because people don't EXPECT the high production value from a YT video, but it's shockingly common these days and dare I say it's expected with content like this. If you didn't provide that level of quality, nobody would watch the videos. So great quality, but not "honestly incredible", unless you are selling the YT community short by expecting low production values.
@@Mr1121628the difference is that this is free and tv is like $100 a month
Thank god that other pilot spoke up quickly, and he was taken seriously. You know it's serious when a callsign isn't even said.
Also, with the second near miss I can't imagine being the controller telling to cancel takeoff clearance, hoping the plane is going slow enough to stop.
True
But that pilot used non-standard phraseology. Big luck that tower did understand it right and commanded "go around" right away.
Also one of planes did turn on his headlights.
In similar case, pilot on the ground directly commanded to incoming pilot "traffic or runway, go around, , go around". Which was more reliable, but here, they could be on ground frequency.
Imagine beeing a passenger in one of those planes, and after the flight they tell you, that you nearly died. This has to be horrifying.
If they don't have to tell you then they probably never would, as I can only imagine the lawsuits or refunds that would be demanded
As a cabin crew, I really appreciate how you illustrate each scenarios. Hopefully passengers will understand that there's really called "air traffic" in able for us to land safely.
How do you guy keep so cool and calm in such situations? I understand it's part of training but then am human. Am gonna be terrify 😂
@@kentharbert7191They mostly don’t, there are tens of passengers and they cannot keep all of them calm, but they can keep a few people calm during the flight with small sentences.
@@MATTH3W_ They mean the staff.
Planes are jam packed with multiple safety features and protocols. Most accidents like losing an engines are minor. Hell, even losing 2 engines and some commercial planes still decide to continue the flight.@@kentharbert7191
@@kentharbert7191Because if we don’t keep it calm, the people that is already screaming and getting anxious will get worse, some people may even suffer a heart attack, and in moments of emergencies we can’t allow other people to feel ill, hurt themselves or standing up just bcs we made them more nervous. It takes being cold bloded but you learn it throughout your training. Screaming and getting anxious wont solve anything. If we get like that too, we forget our emergency procedures, and so we may mess up alot of things u should never mess up when ur in a emergency, since it can put you and others in danger. 😊
19:46 That shot of the two 747s, facing each other in a slowed down time, in a moment that was too late for anything other than a disaster to happen, with nothing but a grey empty background and the grim lighting... that literally sent chills and froze my blood. Despite all the close calls recently, I'm glad we haven't had another Tenerife, and I hope it won't ever happen again.
After seeing this comment I was waiting for this moment and when it got to it I also got chills
Hope is the one thing you should never hope for.😊
I live in the island and I never knew about this
@@iamliber8583 I don't know if its the same for Spanish youtube but for my youtube, the first thing that comes up when you search "Tenerife" is airport disaster
@@NessTheDork I wanted to write the same! Just chills and realisation of this moment...
When passengers are told that they can't standup/walk/use the bathroom during taxiing, this is why. Although a situation like this is rare, I've been on a plane where the pilots needed to slam on their breaks to avoid near collision with another plane. I was in the aisle & lost all balance and footing.
This video is the first thing that came to mind after Hanieda Collision. You weren't wrong.
When I saw the wreckage the next day on the news, I thought how lucky that the plane waiting on the runway wasn’t a wide body full of passengers.
True, was about to say
Yeah you're right
Would be nice if he did a vid about it
yeah the air canada near miss
Pilot here. For once, this video was done so well and all the information is incredibly accurate with terminology and everything. Great job!
One thing that stuck me as possibly off in terminology was the reference to "general aviation" at 5:03. When I was in the aviation business (admittedly 30+ years ago) "general aviation" referred to small aircraft carrying small numbers of passengers. Many of these aircraft were privately owned single or twin piston engine. "Commercial aviation" referred to large aircraft, usually turbine powered, operated by airlines with large fleets of aircraft operating a scheduled service for paying passengers. All of the aircraft involved in the SFO incident I would have classed as "commercial aviation" aircraft. Has the meaning of these words changed in the last 30 years?
@@Vincent_Sullivan Ngas.
@@Vincent_Sullivan Pretty sure he meant to say "aviation in general", tried to shorten it and was unaware that "general aviation" has a different, specific meaning
@@lyaneris I'm unfamiliar with aviation terminology and I'm pretty sure this was what happened, as that's how I understood it. Not too sure but pretty sure
*Mentour Pilot* did a much better, more detailed video on this incident, even included a link to the NTSB report.
My dad is a pilot. He said when he heard this story, he was completely in awe of the absolute act of god that had to have happened to keep this disaster as just a story and not reality
This wasn't god these were humans that avoided catastrophe
@@milimuller3348 clearly you don't understand metaphors, kid😂
It would have blown Tenerife out of the water in its devastation.
@@kellylingro3288 holy shit, yea
Almost 600 lost souls...damn
Cmon man thank the piolets too
Coming back to this after the collision in Japan this week.
I was on a flight in '17 or '18 coming from HTX to SFO where we pulled up suddenly while just above the runway. Looked down and saw a plane and turned to my dad and said "Did we almost just crash" - he said "No, no. Very unlikely. Probably just didn't have a great angle and wanted to be safe."
To this day I still don't know if that was a near call accident or if he was right but when I saw this video in my feed I was like "Holy shit! Was that my flight!?"
99% of the time, a go around is thanks to a “bad angle.” I understand your fear from seeing the other plane, though! Most likely, if you saw it during the go-around, it was not on the same runway you were about to land on. I don’t have any context for your flight though, so I can’t say for sure.
Probably just a go around for an unrelated reason. The plane you saw was most likely on a taxiway waiting to use that runway.
Most airports have adjacent taxiways to the runway. If you look out the window and looked down it was probably an aircraft on the taxiway because it is hard to look straight down from a plane
It must have been terrifying to be in one of the waiting planes and hear a plane flying close over you
They probably never knew what was happening.
The pilots in the third plane in that line would have had quite a terrifying view out the front window...
@@ojjoooooo the pilot in the first one asking “where is this guy going” and he still sounded so calm tho
That's exactly what's probably burned into Robert Bragg's head the moment he the Captain and the Flight Engineer of their Pan AM saw the KLM plane coming straight at them resulting to the infamous Tenerife crash in 1977.
@@ojjoooooo ???? what lmao?? A plane flying 5 feet overhead will wake you up from a coma.
Props to the pilots who saved lives with their quick thinking. Ultimately, they are the ones who decide whether these incidents are close calls or deadly catastrophes.
I'm a planespotter at Austin and I noticed how unusually foggy it was the morning that FedEx heavy was coming in. Since cargo is on the west side, FedEx virtually always takes 18L/36R. Found out about the near miss within minutes thanks to FlightRadar24 and the spotting community sharing on social media. Yikes.
It was the control tower's fault for wanting to make a flight take off while the FedEx was going to land with such a short distance and being so cloudy!!!
This is so pleasent to watch. The voiceover, music and editing are absolutely top notch.
Thanks for this!
It's not often a CZcams video really freaks me out, but the inclusion of not only the real radio transmissions, but also the real footage, no matter how grainy or poor resolution, really showed just how insanely close they came to disaster. What an amazingly put together video. Thank you.
9:37 I havent experienced chills like this from a video in so long. the desperation in the voices knowing that at that one very moment their own words and speed will determine the fate of hundreds of lives as the barrel towards eachother is so raw, there is no thought behind those words, it's panic.
when I say chills I mean full body chills, body physically shakes whilst you're close to crying chills.
I agree these certainly are quite unnerving scenarios, although I would describe the responses as 'startled/urgent' more than 'panicked'.
While there is an emotional modulation added to the urgency of some messages, they remained clear, succinct and appropriate.
Typically a panicked response, even if only momentarily, is initially disordered and animated, a consequence of elevated emotional hijack that overwhelms the individual.
The result is an excitable unclear and disordered response that may be interpreted as garbled or gibberish until they are able collect themselves and regain control to deliver a reordered reprioritised message.
The tone and dialogue from all crew and ATC in the three incidents featured were succinct, clear and urgent when appropriate - as would be expected in aviation.
A focus of our training (crew) is to eliminate any tendency towards panic or appearing as such, it is 'trained out' of us through repeated exposure to high threat typical and atypical emergencies (non-normal scenarios), usually at the most inopportune times, to the degree such events almost become routine.
I suspect the same would be true for ATC training given their typically masterful and measured reactions/instructions.
Consequently the response is always maintaining a clear focus and control in the most threatening of scenarios by calling upon and executing ‘memory items' when only seconds exist to assess and make the best decision with the limited options available, if and when more time is available the next response is referral to the appropriate QRH (Quick Ref) checklist.
Everything is standardised and prioritised with Aviate, Navigate, Communicate.
ATC is more Identify, Advise, Expedite.
Occasionally a degree of stress may be heard in an individual’s voice, typically from being startled by the occurrence of a severe threat or to urge an immediate action, and sadly when when time and altitude have been exhausted in an unrecovered/unresolved event.
That’s my 5 cents worth ;)
Please note I am not in any way criticising or challenging your worthy opinion nor being pedantic about semantics. It is purely how I perceived and interpreted the featured incidents and responses/actions executed in the time they had available.
Cheers.
i completely disagree that there is no thought behind those words- there are thousands of hours of thought behind those words. between the training of each individual at the scene, to the development of airline safety procedures down to the exact words used to communicate to each other, the reason disaster was avoided because thought was put into it. panic would have been just saying "stop!" or something like that, which people used to do before structured flight control communications and sterile cockpits
@@amelade yeah but that training results in less word to word thinking and more instinctive reaction.
yeah that audio got me shaking some
19:49 now that is a scene you’ll definitely find in an aviation horror.
7:57 history almost repeating💀
Watching the condensation from the downwash of the air Canada flight off the tails of the waiting aircraft is chilling. That was such a close call. I am so grateful that those United pilots said something. All of the passengers on those flights had no idea how close they were to being a number in an NTSB report.
A record number, at that.
The scariest part to think about is that had the pilot spoken up a few seconds later, this video would be replacing the Tenerife Disaster.
Since this accident (if i remember correctly) does have a NTSB report, that already happened. Now, if you mean the number of fatalities, then....😢
They had to hear and feel it wouldn't they?
You spit these out so quickly lol! Plus these are some of your best vids. Thai cave rescue and now this, you spoil us :)
Thanks a lot! Really encouraging to read comments like that.
fr!!
Wait, it's just one guy doing these videos?
@@AveCruxSpesUnica yes, Neo writes, edits, narrates and everything else.
Well said sir
Well, it's happened. JAL A350 hit a coastguard Dash 8 on takeoff at Haneda. 5 dead, both planes destroyed.
ButJALA350allpeople gotoff
@@wingwoonyu9183 All people on the JAL plane survived, but 5 of the 6 people on the Dash 8 died.
Beautifully put together video! It is mind-boggling how much effort goes into aviation that lie unnoticed to the average person. The animatuons have helped in understanding what actually goes on. Definitely a video worth watchin..
I'm a pilot - this is very well done in simple language and the sim graphics are detailed enough but simple enough to illustrate the storytelling. Great 21st Century TV.
:-*
i really amazed on how calm their voices are "go around", like if I were the pilot or the air traffic control I would freak out to know that I choose the wrong way and (almost) make a big crash
Rite u go left first and with around u land lefti left....
Landing ever need dry surface......
no you wouldn’t. Both Pilots and ATC are highly trained individuals that do not deal with danger in that manner. The risk is accepted and the positives outweigh the negatives, similar to the attitude of astronauts. If you were in the same position you would have had it handled or you wouldn’t have had the certs at all
Dude the production quality on your videos is absolutely insane. Great work. Awesome video as usual.
16:31 Fredex 1432 was very smart because they did go-around and they are very wise of southwest
Aviation history fascinates me so much. I have a lot of respect for pilots and air traffic control considering the amount of sheer complexity goes into keeping everyone safe. The fact that not just disasters but near-disasters are all reported on and new rules are implemented due to them makes me respect aviation even more.
Sounds like you don't really understand how much of the work gets handled by technology and near automated procedures.
@@dijoxx ....How does what you said have anything to do with what I said? Disasters or near-disasters happen and they implement new rules, new training, and new technologies.
It's crazy how these accidents were narrowly avoided. The pilots and air traffic control are so well trained.
and have a very quick reaction time
I always hear non pilots say "training". Wtf do you people mean when you say "training" For pilots? How do you think people become pilots for airlines? And what do you mean by training? Training for what? What should pilots be TRAINED to do? It's something passengers use yet have no true comprehension of what they mean or are referring to.. But I'll tell you what. These pilots weren't stupid. Either they were fatigued.. You know what, it's most likely both were fatigued. If just one of them wasn't, one would catch the other. Both were fatigued and just wanted to fkn land. As a pilot it's astonishing they realized last minute. The thing is the runway they were cleared on was to the right of another similar runway starting from the same line the runway they were landing on. So when they were to the right of the actual runway they thought it was the left and just confirmation biased themselves, because it's easier to do that than to realize you made a massive fuk up and now have to go around and stay in the air longer
@@davidt8087 is this just a one time thing or do you always respond like a smart ass
@@davidt8087 training for your mom
@@ihaveacutecat makes sense
I watched the follow-up video about Tenerife, and unlike this video where you know everyone avoided tragedy, the Tenerife tragedy, you can hope and hope and hope that nothing goes wrong, but you know it's coming and it's devastating.
Thank you for creating meticulous animated videos with wonderful storytelling! Keep it up!
wow you can hear the emotions in his voice at 17:27. Idk why but that small snippet just hit me straight to my heart. Brilliant video
He's probably aware he nearly caused a fatal accident and that his career is in very real jeopardy, no great surprise he's shaken
@@mattd6085 The controller caused nothing. He followed procedure that was already known to be effective, most of the blame should be put on the Southwest 737 taking too long to initiate their takeoff
@@mattd6085 The investigation is ongoing but I would be surprised if they take disciplinary action against the tower. Both ATC and Southwest bear some responsibility but giving a takeoff clearance when another plane is on a 3mi final is not unusual, even in low visibility, and it is the pilot's job to comply with ATC instructions on takeoff (if he was unable to perform an expedited takeoff as requested, he could have just said "unable" and the controller would understand and resequence him behind the FedEx)
he barely had any emotions at all in his voice lol. I think you're hearing what you want to hear. there was hardly any emotion between any of the parties involved, as it should be.
@@vitormaroso4064 Just a note, NTSB investigations not really investigate to find blame like road traffic accident investigations, instead they find out the mechanisms that allowed this to happen in the first place. Find fault in the system not the people. Quite an admirable thing tbh and certainly should be the case when although it has come very close, no harm was done and no monetary compensation has to be dealt out. My guess as to the recommendations that will be dealt out as a result of that incident is probably either a recommendation to cease takeoff clearances when a approaching aircraft is less than x miles away and/or setting a time limit for expedited takeoffs like those that are performed when another aircraft is on approach. Maybe something related to low visibility approaches too.
Anyway, this is the best kind of incident to have. One where no lives are lost but you learn just as much about the system as if lives were lost.
9:52 most genuine "SHIT!" I've ever heard
The graphics in this video are absolutely incredible for a CZcams channel. Your content is like cable tv / Netflix documentary level. I subbed today.
Thank you for the video! This is so scary how these crash could have happened!
Pilot here. Your videos are absolutely masterful, dude. Always stop what I'm doing and tune in every time you put something out. Keep it up!
Bruh don’t tell me you work for southwest
@@surelynottrue nope lol
Don’t stop flying the plane tho
I know based on the title that they weren't going to crash, but the second one still made me feel so tense watching them speed down the runway as the other was crossing.
The way you recreate these moments truly help get a sense of what was going on and how scary it must have been. Amazing visuals as always, thank you for the consistent quality videos!
This is probably my favourite video from you so far. I love aviation disaster documentaries, and the real footage of the first incident gave me chills. Bravo, neo.
Great video and visuals. Earned my sub. And it's amazing these things don't happen more often
wow, im LOVING these near miss stories. Huge kudos to the Fedex pilot, it must be very terrifying, but comforting, to hear an air controller apologize and thank you for your professionalism. (I feel like Fedex pilots are the most badass, take Fedex 705)
It took me a few times to understand the exhange between Fedex, Control, and Southwest. The captions were extremely helpful but I'd love to see a corresponding marker on the plane. Even if just a the colors of the company logo as a stripe on the ... dorsal tail fin?
That Fedex one could have easily been avoided by not permitting the Southwest plane on the runway when there was a plane with landing clearance, or by giving the Fedex plane an expectation of late clearance.
There were two planes cleared to use the runway at the same time, which should never happen.
@@alexanderpas The narrator explained that with the distance they had, Southwest should've been able to do a speedy take-off and avoid Fedex. Considering there wasn't any traffic, doing such a slip is unnecessary since SW could've just waited 2 mins for Fedex to land, but it was certainly not against the rules.
I'm not a pilot, merely a former flight attendant. Having sat on the flight deck for landings at night, a runway is very distinctive from a taxiway due to the lights. The first incident is very puzzling, at an international airport a runway looks nothing like a taxiway. Thankfully disaster was avoided.
As I understand it from another video (perhaps Mentour Pilot's?) most likely the lights of the planes lined up together in a straight line looked like they were runway lights. Apparently the pilots of the Air Canada flight didn't know there had been planes there even after they had gone around.
One factor is that the Air Canada pilots were up for 19 hours without rest. The fatigue contributed to them mixing up the runway and the taxiway
SFO is a famously difficult airport to land at thanks to the fact that it’s surrounded by mountains and water, because you need to land on a pier that juts out into the bay, and because the two main runways are closer together than most other American airports allow. It also tends to get rather windy. It was a pretty basic mistake to make, but SFO is a pretty unique case as well.
@@dk39ab I think it was his video as well. He mentioned (I think) confirmation bias. I.e., even though things might have looked off, they might have seen something that made it look like the taxiway was the runway and decided that it was the runway even if all evidence and logic said that they'd made a mistake.
One example (hoping I'm getting it right) might be taking a wrong turn and thinking you're on road A going direction B but you aren't. Even if things look off or completely wrong and a part of you is saying something's not right, you might (for example) see a sign that road A has and think that maybe you're just remembering that road wrong or something like that. I.e., use all sorts of explanations to fit within the narrative that you are where you think you are or at are least headed in the right direction. Once you realize that you aren't and figure out where you really are, you probably will feel better knowing you're not crazy and things will start making a lot more sense.
Pilot Here, not all runways have a full lighting system. For example 2 weeks ago I flew to Toulouse and there they have 2 paralel runways. we were cleared for 32R which only had edge lights, whereas 32L has your more typical light arrangement with centerline lights as well. Seeing as taxiways can also have only edge lights with no centerline it kinda looked like we were landing on a taxiway next to the runway, even thought it was the runway 32R. I guess fatigue + their expectation of 2 runways + as another commenter stated the planes lined up could look like touchdown zone lights + different runway light configurations existing all contributed to the incident (plus loads of other factors listed in the video and more)
I keep coming back to this from time to time. What a magnificent animation!
So well-explained, animated, and executed. Well done!
These grafics are unheard of in CZcams let alone television. 😊
The world seems to think that Canada is typically ahead of the curve when it comes to worker safety regulations, but its ridiculous how far behind they are in terms of hours of work and rest in the transportation industry. I'm not familiar with the rail or air industry, but I work in the marine industry. It is still legal to have seafarers work for 6 hours on, 6 hours off, constantly for weeks or months at a time. Not only does it result in fatigue leading to eventual accidents, but the mental health effect is also debilitating to many. Particularly when paired with the isolation and time away from friends and family.
Canadas pilots also get payed a lot less than pilots in America
They also don't have to pay any overtime even if you work a 16-hour shift due to an averaging rule. Also, you don't always get stat pay for working stat. On top of that, ramp workers in Canada makes about half as much as our American counterpart.
after canada was threating to go after their own citizen, i am no longer suprised about anything canada does
A lady got sick in Canada and the hospital recommended assisted suicide
@@therealoldnosey8689 that's too few details to make any sort of coherent argument. I mean, if she was sick enough that she was going to die anyway and it would otherwise just be a hellish last time, the hospital should indeed present the option of assisted suicide - _that's what it's there for._ So what? It's not like she's forced to take the option, you fool.
great video! very informative and well produced
Amazing illustrations and incredible voiceover! Keep up!!
I have known about nebula for quite some time now, and have considered subscribing.
However your storytelling and level of detail finally convinced me. You do not rush while speaking, keeping everything clear, yet concise. Your style is in many ways the same as Lemmino, another creator I enjoy. Comparing the two of you is intended as a compliment and I hope you see it as one. This style keeps the viewer interested in the story you are exploring and conveying, and I hope you continue creating great content like this. Just make sure to take breaks to not get burned out.
Given the level of detail, I doubt you are a individual and have a team of researchers and animators working along side you, and I want them to know their work is also highly appreciated. If you are a individual, my hat is off.
Hi Charlie, thanks for all that praise. I don‘t want to sound repetitive, but it truly is super encouraging to read comments like that.
I will make sure to pass your comment on to Norbert, who helped me write this script.
Enjoy Nebula, besides my Original series you might also enjoy „The World‘s Most Useful Airport“ by Wendover Productions - it‘s really good!
@@neoexplains Nice to see you recommending other creators
Omg I also watch lemmino.
Nebula is seriously worth it, if you have cash for it.
@@genericscottishchannel1603 but neo doesn't make garbage, paid or free
Nebula is absolutely fantastic! I use it to watch Neo, Mustard, Wendover (and his totally not the same guy other channels), and Real Engineering!
Probs to the pilots, that must have been one of the most intense moments in their life
Probs for what? Being so incredibly stupid to put themselves in this situation in the first place?
@@dijoxx why so rude
@@dijoxx please go ahead and fly an entire plane with no sleep
@@aasrithkammula5004 that wasnt his point
@@dijoxx are you being dumb on purpose
Great video this channel deserves more recognition in the “educational content” scene you know or just real life explaining content
Great video with great visuals.
Wow. This is better than the documentaries released by major TV networks. Incredible channel that keeps getting better. Proud to say I've been subbed since 50K. Now 1.2M. Soon, 10M.
Since 50k, wow. Thanks for sticking around! I think back then the channel might still have been called „society of geeks“
Not exactly a high bar
I mean it's really well done, but it's certainly not as high quality as the documentary about the Tenerife disaster which I believe was on National Geographic.
UAL1's pilot was a real hero.
How? He didn't do anything heroic at all. He just called up what he saw. People really overuse the term hero. He didn't purposely put himself in danger to save someone he was just sitting there thinking "Better make sure this guy doesn't plow into us"
@@thecommunistdoggo1008 Look at this guys name, south asians will hail the most menial of things as heroic.
@@thecommunistdoggo1008 Given your name, it's not surprising you come across as a bitter pedant.
The visuals on these videos are so well done and easy to understand.
Such a well-made and deeply informative video! Good and clear animations too!
A check examiner at my flight school told me to always brief runway closures during the descent briefing and here’s a great example on why it’s important
Can you imagine being the pilots the ground and seeing the landing lights of a plane getting closer and closer? The thought of being that close is frightening...
Amazing video and great visuals thank you!
Wow, this deep dive is so in detail and interesting, I'm subscribing immediately.
What surprises me is that the ATC wouldn't just mention to the Captain "hey just so you know 28L has no lights on it, the only runway visible is 28R." It's a very short and quick notice that could be given, and may have kept that near-miss from occurring entirely.
With how dense the traffic was, they'd have to say that to literally everyone incoming
Don't forget that we enjoy hindsight now. The controller at the time had no reason to think that the pilots would confuse the runways
10:09 I havent felt those types of chills in a while. I just watched a scary moment of two planes nearly colliding together, then felt the most amount of pain and nostalgia from the music they chose. If you know, you know.
Memento mori
which music do you mean?
@@finn7393 You had to be there
@@finn7393 to translate the last response: He has a massive superiority complex for gatekeeping a shared experience that others are curious about.
He is now hoping that you or others will ask him again what he means, as to further feed his massive ego.
@@GolinthLmfao, so snarky but accurate
This was the first video I thought of after the Japan Airlines runway crash.
Same..
Man, your videos are just so great-made, really just do it more ❤
4:53 this scene took my soul. as an aviation enthusiast an airplane crashing and causing a domino effect killing all of those 1000 passengers combined would cause fights and war for everybody around aviation
Yeah
Babe wake up neo just posted another high quality mini documentary
Thank you for this informative vid!
this was amazing, thank you so much!!!
9:40 - a masterpiece of a sequence! One could feel the tension, well done
Incredible video, especially when considering that this is not an aviation channel! I'm especially impressed with the attention to detail: Real ATC recordings, correct airport layouts and and correct 3D models for the respective aircraft. Keep up the great work!
somehow I feel that those things you mentioned are the bare minimum for a video on the subject to be considered factually accurate. Like compared to other similar channels, they all do that already. its the level of animation and the level of detail that separate them, not whether or not they have ATC recordings, correct airport layouts, or 3d plane models.
What a video! Must’ve taken a while to make. Much respect ❤
This video genuinely served as the best advertisement of Nebula I have ever seen, I've never been more temped to subscribe to it before now
20:53 "videos that are not made for YT algorithm"
These days even normal videos get punished for most random reasons, appreciate the quality
Everywhere I go I see his face
@@garakthetailor spider man reference
The level of quality of this video is just insane. Even better than big production companies imo. Please keep it up!
Such a well-made video, wow. Great job!
This is so informative. Thanks
I had family on that Philippine Airlines flight and it's harrowing to think a plane full of people who are either going to reunite with family back home or are about to leave their loved ones behind could just all suddenly disappear. I also can't image a near miss and then enduring a 14 hour flight across the pacific!
As a pilot, this information is correct and well presented. Amazing job. I appreciate the use of the real charts and correct aircraft model and instruments. Very nice.
Fantastic video, thank you so much.
thank you for your work
The pilots and tower workers sound so professional, calm, cool, and collected even in extreme distress!
this video has made me a lot more grateful for delays for technical issues, weather, waiting in line to depart on the runway. it's easy for me to get impatient, but this video gives new meaning to the saying 'all safety protocols are written in blood'
your content is amazing men, congrats!!!
neo and Mustard has always been making great content. Bravo to both of them!