UFO hearing: Number of "Unidentified Aerial Phenomenon" sightings on the rise, US says
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- For the first time in more than half a century, the U.S. held a public hearing about UFOs on Tuesday morning. The hearing came almost a year after a report found that U.S. military pilots had encountered over 144 UFOs since 2004.
Since the early 2000s, the U.S. has seen an increase in the number of unauthorized or unidentifiable objects due to an increase in aerospace “clutter” and growing capabilities of sensory technology.
Brad Wenstrup, U.S. representative for Ohio's 2nd congressional district, warned that the sharing of aerospace information and technology between different nations can be a “national security challenge” for the U.S. if improperly used by adversaries.
Throughout the hearing, examples of photo and video footage of UAP were shared to provide context and possible explanations of reported incidents. The hearing was later moved onto a closed session for continued discussion.
In June of 2021, a special report on UAP was delivered to Congress. The unclassified, nine-page report acknowledges 144 encounters with Unidentified Aerial Phenomena since 2004. It only managed to explain one of those sightings as a deflated weather balloon, and it did not provide any new videos or photos of the other mysterious encounters.
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Embarrassing!!! What's the point of talking to these people.
EXACTLY right! It's DUMB and STUPID. That's WHY you should never trust ANYTHING coming from these A*holes!
Everyone in that room knows what these UAP are but they are very careful tip toe around admitting outright that this is most likely off world visitors 🤣 what a joke
@@tyronemayger4090 How do you know that? You just speculate and this is your opinion. Nobody knows for the moment.
I'm sorry, but don't understand your point. Can you, please, elaborate and be more specific?
@@NetTubeUser Just go educate yourself on the subject matter. It's not my job to do it for you
Congrats, in particular, to Rep Mike Gallagher of Wisconsin for some VERY pointed, hot-potato, questions! Kudos to many of these representatives for some very intelligent and reasonable questions, free from the normal stigma attributed to this subject matter.
“Normal stigma” does NOT exist in our Indigenous cultures. It’s connected. These “professionals” are playing the naive card.
I want Gallagher for president and I'm not even american LOL
He did great relative to the other donuts in congress but I can't help but wonder, why did he or anyone else not ask this question:
"Without revealing classified information, so a simple yes or no will suffice, do we have *irrefutable* RADAR data showing these objects are without any shadow of a doubt moving from a standstill to thousands or tens of thousands of kilometers per hour in a few seconds or less?"
A simple "yes" there is almost certainly confirmation that we are not alone.
@@toasternfriends3329 "Do we have"... [what exactly?] Because depending on how you finish that question, it's likely a safe assumption that it would be classified.
@@rocktown5014 It's a simple yes or no question, either the data shows inertia-defying maneuvers or it does not, there is no need to reveal anything classified there.
I suspect it does not.
Just tell us already there is so much proof we aren’t dumb.
Well I think you are if you believe these UAP's are from outside the Earth's atmosphere. Think Military Industrial Complex.
Exactly 💯
You mean "evidence." We do not have proof.
National security is much more important than you think, there's a very good reason things are classified and declassified the way they are, if the government was fully transparent on everything they are doing we'd probably all be dead. The possibility these belong to a foreign state has not been disproven yet which is part of why it's under wraps. We don't want our enemies to know everything that we know. It's frustrating to me too but it's frustrating to other people too who don't have our best interest in mind. Be patient my friend. We have these laws for a reason. If the government was fully transparent about this they would have to abolish the laws that protect all other intelligence from getting in the wrong hands. These people are in charge of our most powerful weapons (that we know about) from nukes to jets. Everything. They have to do things according to law. That's just how it is :/
If humans didn't kill each other every day. We wouldn't need to keep secrets.
They saved all the good stuff for the closed session.
Tell me you are useless with out telling me you are useless
I appreciate that we have started a debate on this subject, the fact it's taken this long is very disappointing and also suspicious. However from first observation it seems that this agency is working in the dark or possibly a front for public theater, I'd like to be wrong. If you where to open this up believably, the first image shouldn't be an obvious camera distortion which most people would right off in 20 seconds as all the stars/pin lights in the sky are also triangular. The second video was shot from a plane at high speed so the object isn't a good example either (I'd say it wasn't enough evidence for possibly being a party/weather balloon). Pilots have reported orbs moving around planes slowly and following at greater speed than the plane since WW2, I'm sure there are images of this out there. My point is if you want the public to take this department seriously, show more believable footage or examples that are more obviously unexplained, like the pentagon footage last year from the Naval training encounter.
That footage was also fake.
Because they were laughing
My first impression is that these guys aren't up front about the whole situation. They seem to be hedging and cherry picking various events that in reality are shaky at best. Over a number of years there's been some very credible and qualified witnesses including police officers, military personnel, air traffic controllers and especially airline pilots. And yet these guys have brushed them off with the feeble excuse they have no information. I feel we're again being sold a bill of goods and coverup seems to be the hidden agenda.
Public theater is my take on the subject.
The nimitz videos were debunked thoroughly by mick west & no aliens were needed
How many are aware this is a cia op.
A fake ufo threat predicted by
Wernher von Braun . this is a ploy to claim there is an emergency threat
So the government can activate COG
And lock down our country much worse than covid did. This is a a statement of
Fact not some conspiracy theory. I suspect they will do this long before Trump ever runs for president and if
The Republicans re-take the senate and
House. Why do think they are claiming
Republicans are terrorists. By the way
Lou is and has been working for the DOD his story is bull. He is a counter
Intelligence operative. He ls lying just
Like Biden and the rest of the liberals.
This was painful to watch live. It’s kinda obvious that they are giving the public bread crumps rather than the important parts of the discussions. It’s not that we are expecting ‘Alien’ confirmation but more on the technology and the phenomenons that have occurred. There area a lot of documented events they could have spoken about and the findings of their research. But w.e
They were definitely holding back information by the way the were acting. I wish they could find a way of telling us without compromising national security.
@@sapien6230 True, im pretty sure they’re not and most things wont come to light, but hopefully some of it does. Do you think Bob Lazar’s story is true?
@@roaringthought I know you didn’t ask
me, but I think it’s likely to be true.
Want to see aliens come to my ho.e city they're everywhere. They better get serious about the southern border or all cities will be the next LA
@@roaringthoughtits 100 percent true. If you haven't seen the documentary I advise watching it. Many of the things he talked about the government later declassified, including saying they have recreated an unstable version of 115 which Bob Lazar himself said he had in his hands YEARS prior.
I can't believe they're still lying to us to this degree after all this time, and with the numerous recent developments. I go into a full rant about it on my channel.
word. Its so laughable. They should invite guys like Jaques Vallee or James Guilliland. Gosh.
@@atonyx4986 Right!? I'd love to see either of those two up there. Or Chris Bledsoe.
I don’t think they are lying. They are just basically going to verify that it’s not alien. Which is good.
@@Drogers8675 No, they didn't say anything like that. There's no denying it's alien at this point. Even they wouldn't be that dense.
@@cosmicroad no offense, but it’s not “aliens”. Let’s get real. I know you want it to be aliens, but more then likely either the it’s adversarial or system glitches
Bob lazar was working on them.
Amazing how nobody is there for the biggest questions of humanity.
Sad
"And I assume we've never discharged any armaments at a UAP, correct?"
"That's correct."
Yeah, it is, because the ones that the USA fired at in Viet Nam were called UFOs at the time.
Holy cow it makes sense
@Johnny Rico *Foo Fighters* : Am I a joke to you? :D
The ones in Vietnam just reflected back at them everything they shot
Wasn’t aware there were ufos during Vietnam. Forgive me for being ootl.
There's a story, hard to verify, that the Red Baron shot at one over Europe, hit it, and it went down. Small sphere type.
I can't believe what I'm watching...it's just sad....
Yes...more blurry photos....
I'm no longer waiting for the stimulus check because I earn $22,000 every 14-16 day's recently
Wow ! Did a Congressman just ask the Pentagon about the 10 Malmstrom Nuclear ICBMs shut down by a UFO in 1967 = Then Oh Lord he asked about the Joint Chief Admiral Tom Wilson Memo where he admits to MJ12 and Roswell recovery Holy Molly 😜 That was worth it right there 😜
Yes, Congressman Gallagher from Wisconsin did ask the Task Force members (not necessarily from the Pentagon) Mr. Bray and Mr. Moultrie about the Mahlstrom AFB shutdown incident and the E. Wilson memo. But, neither of them had "officially" heard about them. Definitely skirting the issue, especially since Moultrie had admitted to enjoying Science and Science Fiction in the complete version of this video from C-Span. He has even attended Science Fiction Conventions, which I assume are similar to that portrayed in the movie "Galaxy Quest". Like him, I grew up in the '60's watching all of the space ventures from NASA, even going to NASA in Houston on school field trips since my town is only 90 miles away. I also watched the original Star Trek series broadcast on TV on NBC. I am no expert on this, but even I have heard about the Mahlstrom. Yet he hasn't, even though he knows of Project Blue Book? Well, "not officially". He may know of it from private life, but in his official capacity, no one in authority has brought this to his attention and been asked to investigate. That's the key word: "officially". So that tells me he does not have the authority or willingness to look at things on his own. It has to be an official request from someone in authority. Thus, the bureaucracy begins here with this new task force and carries over from other task forces. As one Congressman pointed out, this is the 3rd task force of this type. I expect nothing to come of this, and I doubt seriously they will investigate the UFOs that flew over the White House in 1952 with then President Truman standing outside on the Portico and a photographer snapped a picture, which was then printed in newspapers around the country. Yet, no explanation was ever given about this.
Pathetic. I gather no one was under oath.
Bob Lazar should be there
I saw a formation of three bright orange lights over lake Ontario Canada in a stationary altitude at night. They suddenly horizontally departed at a speed following each other that no aircraft could possibly travel ! Another occasion was a brilliant white light which slowly moved away from my vision and then just vanished ! I know what an aircraft approaching as a bright white lights looks like .🇨🇦
Honestly, it's great to see all people of the world working together as people of the world.
Pleeeeeeease someone leak a closed session hearing.
Pathetic! What a waste of time. I've never heard people talk for this long and say absolutely nothing. Oh wait, I have. I've seen Biden's and Harris' press conferences 😅
You must have never heard mormon apologists.
Guess you fell asleep for the entire trump presidency. That fool babbled on for hours using the same ten words and still said less than these liars
you're funny
@@larryjackson5120 if know 😏
@@anthony212459 I have I live in Utah. The Mormon magic didn't work on me.
These guys probably are the aliens 👽.
😂 😂 😂
@MkkaminaLove98🔥 yeah and now they got big ones…..
Sounds like a lot of denial on behalf of our lawmakers and those who have had close contact with these civilizations
We need to start having this God Damn discussion.
What’s crazy is the closed session comment about them being from the ocean
Can you link that for me?
"How do you prevent leaks?"
Step A: crash something in Roswell
Step B: create Project Blue Book
Step C: Cancel Project Blue Book
Step D: wait 30 years
Step E: Rename UFOs UAPs
Step F: Start the UAP task force.
Ancient peoples have paintings of these objects. This phenomenon has been interacting with us since the beginning. Nothing to fear.
The gods of all religions.
I would love to hear what they talked in that "close session"....
I think we all would.
If It was man made on Earth.
This “public hearing” would have never been in the making.
Reverse engineered
@@dt3947 where have they gotten the Material to reverse?
They’ve had to have the Material deposited elsewhere- In order to RE from the start.
Trying to comprehend what they are, where they’re from, and what they’re doing here, is like caterpillars trying to comprehend a Tesla model t. They are orders of magnitude beyond us in every way.
It can be anything....it can be humans. Not from this time....
Don't be so gullible to believe these freaking lies
Gullible? We live in a universe that is incomprehensibly vast and very likely orders of magnitude older than we can calculate. Imagine what’s out there, and it’s probably been here or is here.
@@WhiteOak09 government finally telling the truth and u think their talking cap?!
@@angry-birdo4640 Highly unlikely they are telling the truth.
Americans have developed a art form in conversation, to fill out every statement or question with has many words without saying anything of substance.
Who else thinks Closed Sessions are unacceptable??
"UAP task force doesn't have any wreckage"
That's because it's at Wright-Patterson AFB in Ohio. Different department. Different division. This will remain compartmentalized where the left hand knows something, but it will not tell the right hand what it knows or is doing behind the scenes. "Plausible deniability".
I always thought supposedly smarter people would be able to lie or deny things better 🤣🤣
These are politicians, not smart people.
They not smarter only popular..
They are in the oceans. 80% of the ocean has not been detailed. The technology allows them to live down there.
Reason he said we'll save that for the closed door session.
Yes. Many of them are in and around water/bodies of water. Not just oceans.
@@jane1891 Nova Scotia incident many many years ago, with multi witnesses, disappeared into shallow water....
Richard L - same with a crash on a Canadian lake, in 2015, February 18. Military shut down the whole reserve community, took their devices, to remove any/all pics and even their land lines wouldn’t work, during the military clean up of the crash site. No one allowed in or out. The people living on that reserve were told to keep their mouths shut, by the Canadian military. There was some available info online right after it happened but it’s all gone, now. I only know of it because I live on the lake where it happened. I don’t really want to say where this occurred because our military were apparently quite aggressive about the whole thing.
I don’t believe these men in this video.
Where I live, a *lot* of us have seen a *lot* of these unidentifiable things. We saw a green glowing orb, right by the lake, several years back, and so did a bunch of other guys who were with my partner and I. It just sat there, brightly glowing green. No sound. We were in our super small lakeside town, it was completely unexplainable. We get a *lot* of sightings, around here. Canada is a UFO hotspot. They seem to really love water.
@@jane1891 you are very brave for sharing what you can. Thank you💐🌼
That still doesn't change the fact that there are 49million kangaroos in Australia and 3.5million people in Uruguay which means if the kangaroos were to invade Uruguay each person will have to fight 14 kangaroos
Don't forget the Rabid Drop Bears they are training in secret to drop on any invaders from trees in the Australian outback.
Quite !
Disappointed but expected that.
Me, too.
Me three.
Project blue beam
Yessir
I'm from the UK and i've witnessed a UAP in my own area
Sightings are on the rise as people are no longer afraid to report them!
Uap spotted on movie from 1949" twelve o'clock high" at 1hr 21 min shows object , during B17 landing scene, stationary object actors seem to be distracted by it aswell ?
Do they show up on RADAR etc? Don’t the jets have some sort of systems for detecting other jets in the air?
Yes they show up on radar, They are als seen by night vision and heat vision. With modern day technology even in military all planes give off exhaust plumes but UAP's do not.
Yes, the majority of the incidents being focused on are those that can't be explained, meaning they have multiple independent data sets that demonstrate some sort of physical object was there showing remarkable maneuvers
I'd like to know why lieing adam shifty schiff is on the cover of your video, the truth is what we all suspect is true but in order to controll people as they have for many years, they have to continue the big lie. As I have seen them, because they want me to know that the government is lieing to us, fallow the technology, not the government cover-up, the cover up is money in their pocket not the human races advancement, as is what is natural.
Control control control
We are energy and without energy nothing exist period
Please stop giving us the run around have some faith in your own citizens we can handle the truth and once we have the truth divulged we can finally cope and move on imagine how advanced we can become if we had open contact and coexist and commingle with an advance civilization that willing to share their knowledge with us
This is our biggest chance to move forward as a species
Imagine the power and manoeuvrability of the weapons that would be developed.
@@quatermass8 to kill humans/each other more effectively.
Wow actually picked up an energy field of sorts. Positive or negative like a VAR Aura kind of thing that would indicate not a reflection.
"A closed session for further discussion." - "So how much more can we add to the military budget with this new "threat"? LOL!"
Many of these just have to be experimental objects.
How about providing Pilots with video cameras, or deck out the aircraft with cameras, their mission, to capture UAP.
If UAP are that common, then fly missions exclusively to capture UAP on video.
If the stigma has gone then it shouldn't be a problem justifying the mission.
They do have high definition close up photos that they haven't released to the public yet. They actually have photos of the occupants in the craft as it's flying around. There is 3 TB of data including video Of hours and hours of footage. After the congress meeting they had another one behind to close doors to release more classified information to congress which will be soon released to the public.
@@paullooserphogtv7859 I hope so but won't count on it
Hi frame rate 3d cameras would be good
There are several types of piloted craft. One in particular is the illuminating, glowing spheres in some sightings or videos you see that look like this 🧿. They appear to be individual observation craft. There is an entity inside each one, operating the craft (looks like a Grey 👽) . I know because I took a picture of one that was in a pilot’s video aired on a documentary series entitled “Unidentified”. He was flying his plane at night and saw a glowing, golden/amber like colored object flying alongside in the distance of his plane. I paused the program, took a picture from my phone, zoomed in, took out the glare and dimmed the glow and after some picture exposure adjusting you can clearly see what looks like a little grey entity, sitting inside. It has some type of apparatus on top of its head and you can definitely see the big eyes and what looks to be a black console with its long fingers on it as if it’s controlling it. It’s sitting in some type of a seat and staring at the plane. I was both amazed and stunned at the same time when I seen it after taking out the glow of the object. Im thinking maybe the bright glow is not only for them to see each other but to sorta blind the human eye from seeing them inside. It’s the same craft as seen during the day, but without the glow. Like a silverish white sphere. If you notice in the center of those you can see a head shape within the sphere. But, I dont know if the powers that be in the govt will reveal what these beings and UFOs are. I hope they do, because this is definitely real and I have my own pictures to convince me that these things are absolutely real. Go to my channel and Subscribe so you can see a few of the analyzed UFO pictures in the community tab. Subscribe, then refresh the page to see the Community tab. I posted them in there. 👍🏼
It's wonderful how they're all treating this like one huge circus act and even more so, wasting our tax money on said circus!
Army navy any troops or forces etc same as us public. no one knows what they are.
The persons who know won't say anything.
Acting so cagey you could tell they don't know what they are talking about.
Nervous or what
They can communicate with you telepathically.... we are but ants to them.
What if its humans...from the future
Their acting is so bad... They know exactly what they are they are stuck with telling us something bc it was leaked.
Did I just hear them talk about possibly trying to shut down people who bring up ufos legally!!??
Near miss.
"Wow, look at that collision, they nearly missed each other." George Carlin.
So it's a can't confirm or deny anything at all. So why aren't they still liing about ? For crying out loud, make up your damn minds . Either you do or you don't. Bub
If these are alien drones, what are they researching, and why?
Just like the Hot Air Balloon that was seen near the Arrow Air Disaster. Maybe they’re trying to teach us something about the Arrow Air Disaster?
I wish they would allow the public to sign NDA’s with the punishment of jail time, and allow people to visit military sites like Area 51 and learn parts of the truth, let the religious nuts who can’t handle it stay in their bubble but the rest of us are extremely interested.
Well then you’ve got the whole military secret aspect. They wouldn’t want alien tech getting in the hands of anyone else or knowledge of it.
I’d sign up immediately
I'm pretty sure you're in for a massive surprise (not a good one) when it comes to those you write off as religious nuts.
We are the only God's creation you'll have to be delusional enought to think otherwise!
@@joemariejames4757 that doesn’t even make sense. Look out your window
Is the streaming feed mirror imaged ?
The US flags look like they're facing the wrong way, or is that really the correct orientation for vertically mounting the flag?
I looked @ 19:13. Yes, flag orientation is correct. Whether horizontally or vertically displayed, the blue field with white stars must be in the upper left hand corner.
Union blue is always to be to the top left of the observer whether horizontal or vertical.
Careful responses with specific words and they are off the hook. But again i guess it is in best interest to keep itvsuttle....not really....i forgot my pasifier today
Venus, swamp gas, birds, satellites, the ISS, meteorite, drone, hot-air balloon, balloons, trash bag, tent, a frisbee, a cloud, smoke... 😄
These are Mach 71 Amazon delivery drones! Drone delivery is available for Prime Plus members. Take off the tin foil hats psychos! This is not little green men from mars.
When they enter the classified zone the video buffers 😂
Meanwhile there's an alien somewhere in a basement strapped to electric wires...
I live in N.M an I see alot here , like the other night I counted 33 odd shaped objects going West to East.
33 🙄🙄
R U a 33° Mason? 🤔
Then you should issue a formal report to them to investigate. Oh, wait. Are you officially a person in authority? Deputy Sheriff or Sheriff? Police Detective? Mayor? County Commissioner? Governor? Military Captain or higher rank? If not, forget it. They won't pay attention to you.
Not one Polly asked what brand of polish they use on the crashed roswell craft.
Its all coming out now FINALLY 😮took forever ,I knew it would be in my life time
been an open secret for decades, they dont know anything
Good thing our hard earned taxes help pay for this cover up!!Look at these fools...
Shocking how little informed this task force is.
They're really still using the foreign adversary angle, knowing all the while this is not earthly in origin.
I know too many people who can't handle the thought of aliens being real. This is necessary.
So there might, could, should be an official public reporting section ... that can get vetted and added to your
DATA
Guys we got caught, let's lie politely.
Anyone hear to take a break from the johnny depp case?
35:40 hear how he says that word, he slipped up like heard
Why not just ask them to land and meet up with us.... that was hard.
Cut to the chase and review the former KGB Smersh documents on “ALIENS.”
Dante Santori published The Alien Race Book, of known other beings.
A lot of the ones that he shows in the book are depicted on petroglyphs around the world. Especially in the Southwest United States.
You do realize that Russia has researched many things that were just a huge waste of time and money like “Remote Viewing. The Russians have 0 proof of extraterrestrial life, vehicles etc.
Please use Occam’s Razor!
now your talking crazy 🤪 I'm sorry
@@larryjackson5120 then look up the Ariel encounter
@@larryjackson5120 Educate yourself.
Gallagher brought it task force is a lying joke
The aliens telling us there aren't any aliens lol
I'd fire the guys suppose to be investigating this as they appear to be a couple of numbskulls. This is a public hearing and it is obvious these investigators are holding back what they know and are being careful and selective with their answers.
I wonder how long we need to wait before we're able to snap a real good high res picture with our phones.
Phone cameras are geared towards selfies. They do not and will not possess the ability to take distant high performance photos.
More UFO/UAP news please!!!!!!!!
Pretty alarming to hear that these pilots are seeing these objects on a reg basis
So ...the public records are not worth investigating?!! Shame on them!!!
That's because they do not fall into the proper bureaucratic protocol. Now, if someone in authority, Sheriff, Police Detective, Mayor, Governor, Congress person, or military Captain or higher fills out the proper request form for a specific incident in the public record, then they will investigate it. They have no initiative to look at it on their own. IMO this is just another distraction to say "look, we are doing something" rather than tell us the cold hard fact truth. It makes me wonder if yet something else is going on behind the scenes, or maybe they will suddenly "discover" something and this will be their vehicle to inform the general public that the aliens have landed.
Why are we so arrogant to think that we are the only intelligent life in the entire universe ? Of course there is life out there .
Because the Bible said we were. And a lot of people believe it word for word.
Absolutely there is.
Watermelon head always restores my confidence in the veracity of our federal government, its explanations, and answers to a quandering public.
"Beam me up Scotty" ... All Man made objects 👽 we cannot harness the power of Tesla invention to this day cuz the public is not ready yet. Not ready for flying cars 😁
Who is the guy with the yellow and black tie behind him? Does anyone know? I've been trying to figure out who he is, but it's like he doesn't exist.
I have a engine design that matches the profile of these vehicles it can be made cheaply, run remotely, speed close to light and can travel underwater easily. it does not use a liquid fuel.
Proof
Controlling the narrative. I guess it needs to be a sober exchange hiwever....he said "official" report when referring to other programs. PROJECT SIGN. And he stated nothing "contractual" relating from an engineering perspective. Most of us know better
Is it just me or does everyone scratch their ears when they are trying to tell them to shut up about topics? 😆 🤣 😂
Over 70 years of cover ups which continues… They know a lot more than the crumbs given at this discussion.
Great
Sailboat design and building and regulations are in desperate need of exploitation. Could we expect DOD and Coast Guard cooperate with survival oriented improvement in sailboat design and building and regulations. We thinking seaworthy design in particular..
What is AIMSOG?
Aliens know that Americans are up for no good and are shipping weapons to Russian border. Wouldn't it be something if aliens stoped NATO
In other words, we need more of your money.
Tired of all these supposed exposés that don't expose anything. Going back to Greer and the disclosure project to DeLong and TTSA and now the Congressional hearings that didn't reveal anything. It's always basically "we don't know". At this point, back to us when you do.
It's about that time ❤️
They must have a working hypothesis by now.
They r telling that we r doing this ,we r doing that but when someone asked what knowledge hav you gain or what you know about UAP ,they always say we hve no clue or we r in process.
At Last ! For goodness sake....I have to say, though, that your excessive 'formality' here is something of a barrier to progress and understanding. Why not have an 'open' discussion across all departments ?
Gas is a physical *object*? What kind of food is he eating anyway?
These guys are like static noise on a radio. Chipping pieces off an iceberg while the real stories are in the 5/6th that's unseen.
Liquid surface. Smooth.
professional liars career pathological liars