I know this is just a silly gag in the show, but if you actually take it seriously, here's what it implies: Flanders took a mere 5 seconds to completely verify a whole page of the supposed mathematical proof. Not only that, but he only had a mere 3 second hesitation before completely accepting the conclusion despite his YEARS of Christian fidelity, implying he fully understood and logically accepted the proof in front of him. This can only mean that Flanders is some kind of super-genius, far superior to Homer here in intelligence, with the only reason he didn't come to this conclusion sooner on his own being that he was blinded by religion.
Homer cheerfully whistling "mine eyes have seen the glory of the coming of the Lord" while spreading the proof is a testament to his newly found sense of wit and sarcasm...
The best part of this joke is the subtext that it was easier for Homer to come up with mathematical proof that god doesn't exist then to figure out a flat tax that works lol.
I love this joke because of how many layers to it. Not just the joke of Homer disproving the existence of God, but the joke that apparently it was easier for him to disprove God than it was for him to come up with a flat tax proposal that would work.
There's also the jokes that Flanders could understand and double check the whole thing in 5 seconds, everyone else would also get it when they see the pamphlets, Homer whistling the Battle Hymn of the Republic, God literally existing in the show
What's hilarious is that everyone knows mathematics has been joked around and has even been taken very seriously by the greatest philosophers and mathematicians to be PROOF of God's existence. The joke is clearly an inside one, because Homer is actually a dumbass haha.
@@theluckybomb4166 say, have you found undeniable proof that god exists, cause I'm certian that a lot of things in the bible did happen but I'm waiting on the big man to show himself before I start singing choir songs and devote myself to god. Also I only beleive that some stories in the bible did happen but they may have been overselling the whole god's role in it.
I’m honestly kind of impressed. Homer mathematically disproved Flanders’ entire worldview, and instead of respond with denial, Ned simply accepted his life’s a lie and began the process of purging the evidence.
Either Flanders is a genius himself to make sense of that mathematical proof or Homer is that high a genius to simplify the proof so that the common man understands
Or Homer is such a genius that he was able to "simplify" the truth enough that even a Creationist can understand it. ... And Flanders is a genius, too, yes.
Everyone is talking about how it’s funny that proving god was easier than a flat tax plan, but I find it particularly funny that Homer did this by accident, implying that his tax plan somehow diverged into a religious study while trying to make a good plan.
What's hilarious is that everyone knows mathematics has been joked around and has even been taken very seriously by the greatest philosophers and mathematicians to be PROOF of God's existence. The joke is clearly an inside one, because Homer is actually a dumbass haha.
Classic Simpsons had such good multi-level jokes packed into just a few seconds. Just scrolling thru the comments you can see the various jokes that're in this scene. Absolute brilliance.
Don’t forget that this is Season 12, and don’t let anyone tell you that the show “died” at a certain point. There’s great episodes well into the early 2000s
What's hilarious is that everyone knows mathematics has been joked around and has even been taken very seriously by the greatest philosophers and mathematicians to be PROOF of God's existence. The joke is clearly an inside one, because Homer is actually a dumbass haha.
@@LambGoatSoup I love how you’re constantly reposting this with no evidence what so ever. Just saying “math prove there is god” with no further word. You’re not convincing anyone…
The IQ tests have been really outdated for sometime, they aren't even a 100% guarantee that one IQ test is better than one another, some you get a high score, while others are low scored. the average is around 85, depending on the test you take. In layman's terns, there is no accurate way to rate "intelligence".
The proof is so genius that even it’s complexity is made comprehensible and compelling enough to convince the common Christian man. (Slight physics involved)
Subtle joke there, at the end the tune Homer is whistling is the Battle Hymn of the Republic, which literally starts with "Mine eyes have seen the glory of the coming of the lord." So Homer is further trolling Flanders here.
One thing! Just one thing! Please tell IT to me: WHY tf do I have so many fans even though no CZcamsr is unprettier than I am? WORLDWIDE!!!! WHY??? Tell me, dear mark
czcams.com/video/7MNS2dPfm0g/video.html As evidence by this, he smokes a pipe, typically you hold the pipe in the dominant hand, and light with the non dominant. It allows you to tilt the pipe towards the flame easier and for a more comfortable grip and maneuverability of the pipe in general.
I love that it's an example of a joke that only "clever" people would really get, but which is actually the dumbest possible joke. And he laughs at it in just the way you would laugh when you want to show that you have understood the "clever" joke.
"Flanders to God. Flanders to God. Get off your cloud and save my Todd!" God then proceeds to save Todd, and reply with "oakely doakely" after Ned thanks him. Ned has actually talked directly to God
Ned has a properly basic belief. No amount of evidence can convince him otherwise. For instance, you have a properly basic belief about where you were last night. Suppose that you stayed home and watched TV. If the police arrested you and accused you of robbing a bank last night, despite the most damming evidence, you would still believe your innocence. They could show you a video of you robbing the bank, complete with time stamps and self-identification and you wouldn’t change your belief. Similarly, because of Ned’s first person experiential knowledge of God, he cannot be convinced that God does not exist, no matter how convincing the evidence. Furthermore, he knows how convincing the mathematical proof would be to others, and how dangerous it would be to them, so he does the most loving thing he can do: destroy the proof.
I mean... also greek and hindu deities got an appearence in the show, since the simpsons don't really try to say "there is X god or gods and there is Z afterlife", but rather say " W, X,Y and Z all live togheter as they are human views of life".
This is a problem with all fictional atheists. I was reading a fantasy novel where a character was supposed to be having a breakthrough, “there is no God”, “nothing is happening for a reason”, “there is no greater plan guiding events”. The problem is that in fiction there is always a reason, events follow a plan, and the author is basically god.
@@thrawncaedusl717 You are mixing up the book's world with our world. The two aren't interchangeable. In the universe the book inhabits there exists nothing outside of the book and thus references to anything outside of the book are meaningless when describing events inside it. Is it true that the author has created the book? Yes. This is a fact in our world. Is it also true that inside the universe that the character inhabits there might be no god, nothing happens for a reason, and there is no greater plan guiding events? Also yes. This is a fact in the world that the book contains. The conceit that any work of fiction relies upon is that the work does not exist in our universe and our continuity. That is literally a truism - i.e it is required by the definition of the word 'fiction'.
I know Rubix Cubes are commonly used to make people look smart but the ones that Homer has must be rigged as hell to be solved in three turns. What were the manufacturers thinking?
What's hilarious is that everyone knows mathematics has been joked around and has even been taken very seriously by the greatest philosophers and mathematicians to be PROOF of God's existence. The joke is clearly an inside one, because Homer is actually a dumbass haha.
Considering Homer's past pranks on Flanders. I like to think that he didn't actually write something that disproves God, (God is a recurring character on the show), but he just wrote something convincing enough to destroy Flander's worldview and make him spend the rest of his life convincing himself he is living a lie.
All christians are either evil or ignorant. They know it's fake and live it anyway because they like to sin and be forgiven. OR they are too stupid to see that a jealous god that drowns babies, demands a blood sacrifice, is racist and supports slavery can't be "all good".
I mean, you can’t really blame him. If you’ve spent your whole life believing in something that’s been your main sense of moral and a coping mechanism, you’d probably want to deny something against it too. And I’m saying this as a Christian
@@Ascended23 Well, you got 1 part of it wrong. That you´d have to do more tests than just one other person + yourself. By your logic, you are 50% smart and 50% dumb because you got one thing right and one thing wrong lmao
Simpsons jokes were funny on so many levels: 1. Homer proving there's no God with a math formula. 2. Ned immediately understanding the formula. 3. Ned still choosing to destroy the evidence even though it has proved to him there is no purpose to continue believing in God. 4. The whole nonchalance of both characters at a discovery that changes the meaning of mankind.
Considering God doesnt exist, nothing would fundamentally change. In spite of overwhelming evidence that every god was, up until a few thousand years ago, was simply a foundation of localized belief, and that virtually everything revealed by these gods was psuedoscience pioneered by people who didnt know any better, its pretty clear god doesn't exist.
@@AtreVire that doesn't say anything about the existence of A god, it just says that religious ideas of gods are flawed. It does not positively or negatively affect the question of whether a god exists, it merely says many specific conceptions of a god are false.
@@guyno_one293 it may not mean that there isnt "a" god out there somewhere, but what it does mean is that the ones that every sucker on Earth is praying to is wrong. They were made up in an era that predated logic and reason in order to bind together larger groups of people than family ties alone could.
There was logic back then, if you read the bible as a history book as well as a religious book, you will see lots of logic. Dumb people and know it alls atheists get caught up in the language and not understanding the meanings because of the language. Btw..technology now allows people to live against nature, whereas back then it was not possible without it. Ethics was also a way of survival. For people who pioneered astronomy without telescopes, saying they had no logic is a stupid assertion. There is also lots of evidence that people who believed in religion who lived even 250 years ago were smarter than us now. How many times did you use spellcheck? Can you draft a set of laws better than the people who wrote the constitutuon that wouldn't collapse society. Ill bet 50 years from now those people would look upon us and say things like..genes don't change because of surgery, how could those dummies not LOGICALLY see someone taught in school that being gay is the way for 8 hours for 160 days for 12 years WOULDNT affect children's psyches and screw their heads up where they didn't know their sex or pronouns by adulthood.
@@thiagodeandrade7081 The problem is the "good for the economy" part. Flat Tax disproportionately harms the middle and lower classes. The group that determines the stability of an economy and are the ones that stimulate it the most. On top of that to reach similar levels of funding for programs that help societies and the economy you need a much higher flat tax on everyone than you would need to have targeted incrimental taxes on select groups/industries. We get like $4 back for every $1 we put into WIC and similar services. Education and healthcare spending are the foundations of s productive work force. Public transportation and regulations that make it easier for the population to find/travel to work and have disposable income for products. Funding for international aid to assist in the stability of trade partners and creating more specialized economies to work with. You need funding to do all of these and a Flat Tax rate is not good at funding these unless you are willing to cripple the income of those who actually stimulate the economy. And all of this is just through a fiscal lense, not even humanitarian.
@@haruhirogrimgar6047 I guess it is true. Anyway, exactly because the muddle class would be particularly affected, I think it is a political no go in the USA anyway.
@@thiagodeandrade7081 flat taxes only benefits one particular group which are those who propose and lobby for said plan *cough* the 1% *cough*. If it is set to low, then the government couldn't afford any kind of social service / programa that benefits those who need them the most (like public schools and shit). If set to high the the middle and lower class get fucked real good. Or everyone just default to tax evasion (which the rich already do) but you can only get away with that evasion if you are wealthy l, and even then you have to be really careful, otherwise you know the taxman will come for your ass...
What's hilarious is that everyone knows mathematics has been joked around and has even been taken very seriously by the greatest philosophers and mathematicians to be PROOF of God's existence. The joke is clearly an inside one, because Homer is actually a dumbass haha. Edit: Baked Onion
@@naverilllang if the Christian God did exist and was the right one then fuck him, he made me suffer for most of my life because I’ve had many open heart surgery’s including lung disease
@@Samstar369 No we don't all get nerfed. Some people have the most horrible lifes imaginable and for others it's smooth sailing. Don't try to legitimize that.
@@Samstar369 There is no proof whatsoever for Karma actually existing. If there were a god (I don't see why that should be the case), that god is a giant asshole, to put it in human terms.
Ned’s reaction is also interesting. You’d think he’d go into a mental breakdown but he’s actually not very bothered and burns it to prevent other people finding out 🧐
What amazes me is that in any cartoon show whenever an extremely dumb character becomes extremely smart, he also immediately becomes an arrogant snob. I wonder how it would be in real life.
"I refuse to prove that I exist,'" says God, "for proof denies faith, and without faith I am nothing." "But," says Man, "The Babel fish is a dead giveaway, isn't it? It could not have evolved by chance. It proves you exist, and so therefore, by your own arguments, you don't. QED." "Oh dear," says God, "I hadn't thought of that," and promptly vanishes in a puff of logic. "Oh, that was easy," says Man, and for an encore goes on to prove that black is white and gets himself killed on the next zebra crossing. - Douglas Adams
It depends on which implies which. If a flat tax implies God, then no God implies no flat tax. But if God implies a flat tax, then no God could still imply a flat tax
Everyone here's arguing over God existing in our reality and yet I'm here remembering that God does exist in the Simpsons' universe. Homer's met him a few times IIRC. Like the Mr. Plow episode when Homer and Barney put aside their differences to work together, God suddenly turns the weather to spring, then there was that episode where God saved the Flanders' boy going down the river. And the one where Homer took over the Church and it took Reverend Lovejoy to pray and stop the flood. So yeah, Homer in this episode is wrong. God exists, in the Simpsons universe anyway.
@@XX-yl3wc It doesn't need to have sense, but it would be better if it had. in Shows with consistent settings and characters, inconsistent story telling is always a disadvantage, no matter if it's a cartoon or a lesser type of story telling.
@@benyseus6325 That depends on the type of cartoon. With the Simpsons is a bit hard to tell since it's neither a realistic cartoon nor a completely random one like the loony tunes, so the expectations of people my differ.
It's interesting to see Ned move on from the undoubtable proof so quickly. The rest of the episode counters this, but this clip in isolation shows that his religious identity could be more Heideggerian (believing man must hold something as sacred to push past the "existential angst") in nature than an epistemically-fueled principle
@@bluemew22 Consciousness exists. Consciousness is additive (one conscious being might alter the consciousness of another). God is the sum of all consciousness. lol.
i actually talked with an atheist last night and he did what isaiah prophesied in isaiah 6, i gave him like 4 reasons why God exists but he ignored all of the reasons and changed the topic completely every time.
@@amos5557 While it isn't healthy to just ignore other sides of an argument, it's not hard to understand that some people don't want to spend their time discussing religion
See for me I don't understand mathematics, during homeschooling my mother was too stingy about buying useful schooling books instead rebuying the same books over and over again so I'm exceptionally ignorant as duck.
I like to think Flanders is canonically as smart as Homer and could have figured this out, but he enjoys his life with his faith and refuses to even approach the question of gods existence in fear that he does in fact find an answer and it's not the one he wants.
you know what? I think it might be fun to watch this episode again. I don't seem to remember this scene from it for some reason but I remember watching this episode back when it was new. quite an interesting take to see Homer Simpson smart for an episode.
The best part about this is that Ned Flanders was not only smart enough to comprehend that there was no God in seconds, but that he destroyed it and carried on as normal suggesting that he had already once proved it to himself
Lots of people live in conscious denial of many things. Like people that get the mRNA vaccine for example denying to themselves the evidence that it’s dangerous.
Ned is a man of culture. He knows a civilization is composed of race, religion and culture. He is willing to sacrifice his beliefs for the good of civilization. People need organized religion to find a sense of belonging and community. Religions also provide a social safety net for it's members. Most charities and the largest ones aren't composed or created by atheists or none relgious people, they're actually religious charities. The largest global net of charities is the Catholic Church, yes that church is guilty of many evils but it has done more good than harm. There's evil people and good people everywhere.
He hasn't met God. He has met the show's fictional depiction of God. Homer clearly recognized the nature of his fictional existence, extrapolated the nature of his non-fictional existence (a character in a cartoon, created by writers), and then proved the un-nature of *our* god. That's what he handed to Flanders.
It's weird how Rubik's cubes are universally recognised as a symbol of intelligence even though most people who know how to solve one just memorised a bunch of algorithms
I know somebody who can solve one invariably in two minutes. Believes the universe is roughly six thousand years old, doubts dinosaurs ever existed and claims he would not use appropriate violence even to protect his own children. They are a daft toy.
Not only did homer accidentally do it, and made it fit into 1 side of paper, and have it be understandable in such a short and easy read, but he didnt spread it as the revalation it was or the story of a lifetime. Its just like giving your neighbour the extra bread yiu had before they go to the shops
@@yourmum69_420 Tbf, proving there is no god is the closest thing to impossible. However, proving that there's no good reason to believe in one is easy.
@@Capybarrrraaaa depends on the particular god. It's pretty easy to disprove an omnigod as it's paradoxical. Hence the paradox "if God is all-powerful can he create a rock so heavy even he can't lift it" However a wishy-washy deistic personification natural forces is harder to debunk as those claims are intentionally unfalsifiable
I would certainly believe someone composed a mathematical proof that God doesn’t exist well before I believed that someone authored a tax plan that works and pleases everyone.
@@Wylie288 I'm not even gonna debate you rn but did you not just say "we could find a tax plan that pleases everyone if the people who aren't pleased would shut up"
@@guilhermeshiba3135 Yes. Education would fix the progressives problem with the current taxes. They have never made an argument against the current taxes that was based in any kind of reality.
When you think about it, everyone is an atheist, some just pretend that there is a God that they believe in. If there was a god there would be evidence and part of that evidence would that there were no atheists. Can not have atheists if there are gods.
Let's all appreciate the fact that Flanders scanned, understood, peer reviewed, and double checked this entire problem in one second.
Sounds like the media in response to
Lol give me a week and I still wouldn't know wtf I'm looking at
It was actually a bit long for a peer review.
I know this is just a silly gag in the show, but if you actually take it seriously, here's what it implies:
Flanders took a mere 5 seconds to completely verify a whole page of the supposed mathematical proof. Not only that, but he only had a mere 3 second hesitation before completely accepting the conclusion despite his YEARS of Christian fidelity, implying he fully understood and logically accepted the proof in front of him. This can only mean that Flanders is some kind of super-genius, far superior to Homer here in intelligence, with the only reason he didn't come to this conclusion sooner on his own being that he was blinded by religion.
yea because i'm definitely peer reviewing some world changing research so i can have it stolen
lmao ned takes only seconds to understand a mathematical proof that there's no god, im pretty sure ned is a genius too
Yes but even when he realized that Christianity is total bullshit and a waste of time he's still willing to let it go on lol
pretty sure he just pretended like he understood lol
He takes even less time to burn it to preserve his preferred belief.
To be fair he is devil as his side job
@Jayce Matteobegone, bot
Took flanders exactly 1.88 seconds to confirm that mathematical equation was real. The man is smart.
Since he could understand the proof so fast, doesn't that make him as smart or smarter than Homer?
@@benwagner5089 Stellan Skarsgård's character immediately understood Will Hunting's proof, but he wasn't smart enough to come up with it.
That guy who does the power levels of the king of the hill characters should totally do Ned Flanders.
@@davidjorgensen877 using a movie to prove something in a cartoon
thats why hes not single lol
Homer cheerfully whistling "mine eyes have seen the glory of the coming of the Lord" while spreading the proof is a testament to his newly found sense of wit and sarcasm...
Battle Hymm of the Republic; one of the best Union Army songs from the Civil War
Blood on the risers
@@icicle_ai i know it as solidarity forever but it's also john brown's body lmfao!! oldddddddd tune
John Brown's body lies a moldering in the grave.
We’re taking down the zog machine Jew by Jew by Jew. The white man marches on
The best part of this joke is the subtext that it was easier for Homer to come up with mathematical proof that god doesn't exist then to figure out a flat tax that works lol.
LMFAOOOOO
You mean than, surely? Unless you mean it was easier for him to come up with the proof and THEN figure out a flat tax?
@@BenjaminGoose he mispelled "than"
@@BenjaminGoose You’re acting pathetic.
@@Ludovicus1769 wow, way to insult the grammar Nazis out there. We need more people like Mr. Goose out there; people’s grammar online is atrocious.
Can we talk about the fact that ned understands the formula immediately
Flanders is a Vatican sleeper agent. HE KNOWS!
He burned it because he doesn't want anyone to know that he is actually the devil
No, we can’t.
And it has a satan sign in the bottom right
That’s the joke
I love this joke because of how many layers to it.
Not just the joke of Homer disproving the existence of God, but the joke that apparently it was easier for him to disprove God than it was for him to come up with a flat tax proposal that would work.
I never thought of that in so many years 😱
There's also the jokes that Flanders could understand and double check the whole thing in 5 seconds, everyone else would also get it when they see the pamphlets, Homer whistling the Battle Hymn of the Republic, God literally existing in the show
To be fair it is a lot easier to at least mostly prove God doesn't exist than to make a system of governance that works.
Anytime I want to prove God doesn’t exist I just point to the fact that Steven Segal had an acting career… what kind and just God would allow that?
@@CollinMcLeanHey, some of his movies were good!
I love how smart Homer is able to solve a Rubik's cube in only two moves.
And without looking
@@PatoNani18 Are we surposed to believe that this is some kind of magic Rubix Cube?
I solved one in 27 seconds
I can solve them in 25 seconds
Nobody cares
It’s even funnier when you remember God is an actual reoccurring character in-universe that Homer has met before. XD
A bit like Brian in Family Guy being an atheist despite literally meeting Jesus.
@@axldave9940 “Jesus lived with us for like a week. What more do you need?” Stewie to Brian
Technically Homer has only ever met God in his dreams.
What's hilarious is that everyone knows mathematics has been joked around and has even been taken very seriously by the greatest philosophers and mathematicians to be PROOF of God's existence.
The joke is clearly an inside one, because Homer is actually a dumbass haha.
@@theluckybomb4166 say, have you found undeniable proof that god exists, cause I'm certian that a lot of things in the bible did happen but I'm waiting on the big man to show himself before I start singing choir songs and devote myself to god. Also I only beleive that some stories in the bible did happen but they may have been overselling the whole god's role in it.
I’m honestly kind of impressed. Homer mathematically disproved Flanders’ entire worldview, and instead of respond with denial, Ned simply accepted his life’s a lie and began the process of purging the evidence.
What exactly was that evidence?
@@MamaNewGuinea ........the piece of paper?
@@MamaNewGuinea exactly... *sweeps away the ashes*
@@audson317 what was written on it?
@@MamaNewGuinea You do realise this is a comedy show
The best part of this joke is that Flanders accepts that the paper is true but destroys it anyway. There are many possible reasons he would do that.
The classic religious move. Your evidence is powerless against me if I just refuse to think about it.
@@epsteindidntkillhimself69 Yep, right up there with the infamous Book Burning Mobile.
Standard religion move.
It’s a two-way street for the faithless.
@@maximilianoferrer6841 Not really. Faith is belief without evidence.
Either Flanders is a genius himself to make sense of that mathematical proof or Homer is that high a genius to simplify the proof so that the common man understands
Flanders was a pharmaceutical chemist, he has to know advanced mathematics, or in what part of the brain are the ethics or beliefs.
Or Homer is such a genius that he was able to "simplify" the truth enough that even a Creationist can understand it.
...
And Flanders is a genius, too, yes.
Despite his religious zealotry and bigotry, Flanders is a low-key badass.
Everyone is talking about how it’s funny that proving god was easier than a flat tax plan, but I find it particularly funny that Homer did this by accident, implying that his tax plan somehow diverged into a religious study while trying to make a good plan.
At some point, if you keep on trying to have something work it ends up as a form of belief not far off from that of religion so it makes sense to me
I’ve come up with multiple things accidentally. Not sure if I’ve ever really tried to come up with anything because everything just comes to me.
Ok
What's hilarious is that everyone knows mathematics has been joked around and has even been taken very seriously by the greatest philosophers and mathematicians to be PROOF of God's existence.
The joke is clearly an inside one, because Homer is actually a dumbass haha.
@@LambGoatSoup and you go through the world thinking God exists calling fictional characters dumbasses... You must enjoy your simple life.
I love that Homers hate for Ned isn't tied to his stupidity, he just out right hates the guy
To be fair, Ned is annoying as fuck. It's only natural.
@@Hero_of_Legend Hi-diddily-ho neighborino
@@wilymuppet8941 so annoying
Nobody likes an apple polisher
Homer was explicitly trying to help him save some time. How nice is that!?
Idk what's cooler: Homer accidentally disproving God, or Ned understanding the math.
Classic Simpsons had such good multi-level jokes packed into just a few seconds. Just scrolling thru the comments you can see the various jokes that're in this scene. Absolute brilliance.
Don’t forget that this is Season 12, and don’t let anyone tell you that the show “died” at a certain point. There’s great episodes well into the early 2000s
@@jackzimmy8461 It did start to decline after season 8 though. Until it became utterly unwatchable because of how lazy and unfunny it became.
This is categorically NOT a "classic" Simpsons episode.
@@AarenJable That's up for debate. This episode is over 22 years old.
@@AarenJablewhere do you even draw the line then, there exists young adults now who weren't born when this episode aired
Ned understands the proof because it was based on a flat tax formula. Ned does his taxes on his own by hand on Jan 1st.
What's hilarious is that everyone knows mathematics has been joked around and has even been taken very seriously by the greatest philosophers and mathematicians to be PROOF of God's existence.
The joke is clearly an inside one, because Homer is actually a dumbass haha.
@@LambGoatSoup
Nice repost.
@@LambGoatSoup I love how you’re constantly reposting this with no evidence what so ever. Just saying “math prove there is god” with no further word. You’re not convincing anyone…
I bet it was his left hand.
@@LambGoatSoup lol, how would you even define "the greatest philosophers" and how many philosophers have even close to a proof for their claims
The funny thing is Homer's IQ without the crayon is 105. Which is completely average.
It's slightly above average
Or at least in some systems
in this day and age "average" is down a few points.
Average IQ is always 100
@@markcoleman7246 no its not. thats not how iq works.
The IQ tests have been really outdated for sometime, they aren't even a 100% guarantee that one IQ test is better than one another, some you get a high score, while others are low scored. the average is around 85, depending on the test you take. In layman's terns, there is no accurate way to rate "intelligence".
Can we just talk about how Flanders is smart enough to know, understand and check the math to see if Homer made a mistake.
The proof is so genius that even it’s complexity is made comprehensible and compelling enough to convince the common Christian man. (Slight physics involved)
Homers laugh to that "Good as Gould" joke on the radio 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Subtle joke there, at the end the tune Homer is whistling is the Battle Hymn of the Republic, which literally starts with "Mine eyes have seen the glory of the coming of the lord." So Homer is further trolling Flanders here.
One thing! Just one thing! Please tell IT to me: WHY tf do I have so many fans even though no CZcamsr is unprettier than I am? WORLDWIDE!!!! WHY??? Tell me, dear mark
@@AxxLAfriku How in the hell have you managed to do this garbage for years on end???
It also is the hymn of "John Brown's Body" and "Solidarity forever". Further mocking Neds ultraconservative views.
@@JacktheRah Indeed. I'm not sure Ned is an ultraconservative as much as he's just kind of a Jesus-freak, but you're right to notice that.
@@AxxLAfriku The more and more I see you talking mad shits everywhere, the more I find it hilarious. So do keep it up, I guess. :)
This is made all the funnier when he's passing out the flyers while whistling "Battle hymn of the Republic"
Yep lol, "...the truth keeps marching on..." XD
Maybe he was humming "solidarity forever"
Yes
I'm assuming that's a religious song. They kind you would hear in church
@@maxbateman3115 right that makes sense...
Does this mean it’s canon that Flanders is a mathematical genius since he looked at that for like ten seconds and immediately understood it perfectly?
Yeah it is canon indirectly because Ned has been shown many times to be superior in pretty much every way. Ned is the omni-Chad.
I love Homer walking off whistling the battle hymn of the republic
I know that this is just a one-off side joke but we can’t forget when Homer literally met God in a couple of episodes
Because Homer NEVER hallucinates right?
Clowns are funny...
Wasn't the same Simpson's Universe.
@@WASTEOFTIMESTUDIOS it usually has an external component. I.e insanity peppers.
Different writers. Back then writers beleived in God. In the newer episodes the writers were atheists.
The real question here is why is Ned Flanders carrying a lighter in his pocket? And he uses his right hand when we all know he’s a lefty.
He'll use fire to destroy anything thats against god. Like when he burned that Harry Potter book he read to his kids.
@@thelordofsalem3044 and he'll do it with his non dominant hand?
He used his right hand because it was in his right pocket, I guess
because you hold the ciggy in your dominant hand
czcams.com/video/7MNS2dPfm0g/video.html As evidence by this, he smokes a pipe, typically you hold the pipe in the dominant hand, and light with the non dominant. It allows you to tilt the pipe towards the flame easier and for a more comfortable grip and maneuverability of the pipe in general.
As a pianist I love that "good as Gould" line. 😆
Same. I like that they made that joke knowing that probably not even 1% of the audience would get it lol
I love that it's an example of a joke that only "clever" people would really get, but which is actually the dumbest possible joke. And he laughs at it in just the way you would laugh when you want to show that you have understood the "clever" joke.
@@artmarkham3205 Like when Homer puts on the toilet glasses and quotes the Scarecrow misstating the Pythagorean Theorem. 😆
@@TheAluvisifyUmm is it really that complicated? Sounds like it's just a pun on Gould/Gold. Or is it more nuanced than that?
@@darksideofevil13 Not everyone knows who Glenn Gould is. I never said that it was complicated. It's just that most wouldn't catch the reference.
"Flanders to God. Flanders to God. Get off your cloud and save my Todd!" God then proceeds to save Todd, and reply with "oakely doakely" after Ned thanks him. Ned has actually talked directly to God
Ned has a properly basic belief. No amount of evidence can convince him otherwise. For instance, you have a properly basic belief about where you were last night. Suppose that you stayed home and watched TV. If the police arrested you and accused you of robbing a bank last night, despite the most damming evidence, you would still believe your innocence. They could show you a video of you robbing the bank, complete with time stamps and self-identification and you wouldn’t change your belief.
Similarly, because of Ned’s first person experiential knowledge of God, he cannot be convinced that God does not exist, no matter how convincing the evidence. Furthermore, he knows how convincing the mathematical proof would be to others, and how dangerous it would be to them, so he does the most loving thing he can do: destroy the proof.
"You know for a fact that there's a God. You've been in his presence. He's spoken to you personally."
Maybe the only way God exists in the simpsons is when that proof doesn't exist
@@YoghurtOrYogurt
That explains why Flanders burned it.
I mean... also greek and hindu deities got an appearence in the show, since the simpsons don't really try to say "there is X god or gods and there is Z afterlife", but rather say " W, X,Y and Z all live togheter as they are human views of life".
Ned Flanders is aware that he is a character in a tv show.
He knows the writers can kill off his family for no reason at all.
His God is real.
Nice take.
Uuu, clever
Well... Maude can confirm this.
This is a problem with all fictional atheists. I was reading a fantasy novel where a character was supposed to be having a breakthrough, “there is no God”, “nothing is happening for a reason”, “there is no greater plan guiding events”. The problem is that in fiction there is always a reason, events follow a plan, and the author is basically god.
@@thrawncaedusl717 You are mixing up the book's world with our world. The two aren't interchangeable. In the universe the book inhabits there exists nothing outside of the book and thus references to anything outside of the book are meaningless when describing events inside it. Is it true that the author has created the book? Yes. This is a fact in our world. Is it also true that inside the universe that the character inhabits there might be no god, nothing happens for a reason, and there is no greater plan guiding events? Also yes. This is a fact in the world that the book contains.
The conceit that any work of fiction relies upon is that the work does not exist in our universe and our continuity. That is literally a truism - i.e it is required by the definition of the word 'fiction'.
I know Rubix Cubes are commonly used to make people look smart but the ones that Homer has must be rigged as hell to be solved in three turns. What were the manufacturers thinking?
any Rubik's Cube can be solved in 16
I mean just go frame by frame, you see that the colors on the cubes must be off and he is only solving visible sides from the angle we see lol
What is the artwork called for your profile picture? Do you know who the artist is?
boy i really hope somebody got fired for that blunder!
What's hilarious is that everyone knows mathematics has been joked around and has even been taken very seriously by the greatest philosophers and mathematicians to be PROOF of God's existence.
The joke is clearly an inside one, because Homer is actually a dumbass haha.
Considering Homer's past pranks on Flanders. I like to think that he didn't actually write something that disproves God, (God is a recurring character on the show), but he just wrote something convincing enough to destroy Flander's worldview and make him spend the rest of his life convincing himself he is living a lie.
Let’s all appreciate Ned’s subtle evil in attempting to suppress this discovery
Lies again? Forged In Fire
Classical church move
All christians are either evil or ignorant. They know it's fake and live it anyway because they like to sin and be forgiven. OR they are too stupid to see that a jealous god that drowns babies, demands a blood sacrifice, is racist and supports slavery can't be "all good".
When you say "subtle evil" you mean 'religion.'
I mean, you can’t really blame him. If you’ve spent your whole life believing in something that’s been your main sense of moral and a coping mechanism, you’d probably want to deny something against it too. And I’m saying this as a Christian
I love that A. Even when he’s smart, homers still a dick to Flanders and B. He was smart enough to make copies.
@Jack Song LMFAO try to use something other than the Bible for evidence next time
@Jack Song Preach somewhere else please.
He knew flanders would burn it, its undeniable evidence, if no copies it must be burn
@Jack Song Hail Satan, Hail Thyself
Another commenter pointed out that C) its easier to prove God doesn’t exist (an unfalsifiable claim) than to create a working flat tax proposal
I love the fact that homer was giving out the equation as if he thinks that Springfield would be smart enough to understand it
Well, 100% of the people he's shown it to so far understood it very clearly, so sounds reasonable to me!
@@Ascended23 Well, you got 1 part of it wrong. That you´d have to do more tests than just one other person + yourself.
By your logic, you are 50% smart and 50% dumb because you got one thing right and one thing wrong lmao
@@kingkaizoku85 thast the joke....
@@Vit-Pokorny Yeah I get it and I elaborated on it. I took the 100% joke and turned it into the 50% one. Not that hard to understand
@@kingkaizoku85 🤓🤓🤓
It also displays that Flanders is willing to keep the entire world in ignorance rather than knowing the truth.
Average theist
Doesn't really work when God literally does exist in Simpsons
@@justusP9101"Woah dude my favorite goy propoganda shows theists as evil that means it must be true🤓🤓🤓"
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@@justusP9101Read Carl Gustav Jung. You are the one who decides for himself to live in ignorance and denies the truth.
Oops Simpsons, your Masonry is showing!
Simpsons jokes were funny on so many levels:
1. Homer proving there's no God with a math formula.
2. Ned immediately understanding the formula.
3. Ned still choosing to destroy the evidence even though it has proved to him there is no purpose to continue believing in God.
4. The whole nonchalance of both characters at a discovery that changes the meaning of mankind.
Considering God doesnt exist, nothing would fundamentally change. In spite of overwhelming evidence that every god was, up until a few thousand years ago, was simply a foundation of localized belief, and that virtually everything revealed by these gods was psuedoscience pioneered by people who didnt know any better, its pretty clear god doesn't exist.
@@AtreVire that doesn't say anything about the existence of A god, it just says that religious ideas of gods are flawed. It does not positively or negatively affect the question of whether a god exists, it merely says many specific conceptions of a god are false.
@@AtreVire crimge.
@@guyno_one293 it may not mean that there isnt "a" god out there somewhere, but what it does mean is that the ones that every sucker on Earth is praying to is wrong. They were made up in an era that predated logic and reason in order to bind together larger groups of people than family ties alone could.
There was logic back then, if you read the bible as a history book as well as a religious book, you will see lots of logic. Dumb people and know it alls atheists get caught up in the language and not understanding the meanings because of the language. Btw..technology now allows people to live against nature, whereas back then it was not possible without it. Ethics was also a way of survival.
For people who pioneered astronomy without telescopes, saying they had no logic is a stupid assertion. There is also lots of evidence that people who believed in religion who lived even 250 years ago were smarter than us now. How many times did you use spellcheck? Can you draft a set of laws better than the people who wrote the constitutuon that wouldn't collapse society.
Ill bet 50 years from now those people would look upon us and say things like..genes don't change because of surgery, how could those dummies not LOGICALLY see someone taught in school that being gay is the way for 8 hours for 160 days for 12 years WOULDNT affect children's psyches and screw their heads up where they didn't know their sex or pronouns by adulthood.
Now I'm wondering about what that math equation is
i looked at it a bit. it's mostly nonsense.
6/7(268÷2=16)=0
@@NotLegato like religion
@@NotLegato how did you mange to look at it. its really hard to make out what he wrote.
The Anit Life Equation
What's impressive is that it is presumably written in symbolic logic, and that Flanders can not only read it, but understand it as well.
Wait so Flanders knows that God doesn't exist, and he still burnt the paper so other people wouldnt find out? Damn.
I like how it was easier for homer to disprove god than it was for him to make a new flat tax proposal that works
It probably would have to work (good for the economy, no big displacements) and be politically viable, which, I think, is a no go.
@@thiagodeandrade7081 The problem is the "good for the economy" part. Flat Tax disproportionately harms the middle and lower classes. The group that determines the stability of an economy and are the ones that stimulate it the most.
On top of that to reach similar levels of funding for programs that help societies and the economy you need a much higher flat tax on everyone than you would need to have targeted incrimental taxes on select groups/industries. We get like $4 back for every $1 we put into WIC and similar services. Education and healthcare spending are the foundations of s productive work force. Public transportation and regulations that make it easier for the population to find/travel to work and have disposable income for products. Funding for international aid to assist in the stability of trade partners and creating more specialized economies to work with. You need funding to do all of these and a Flat Tax rate is not good at funding these unless you are willing to cripple the income of those who actually stimulate the economy. And all of this is just through a fiscal lense, not even humanitarian.
@@haruhirogrimgar6047 I guess it is true. Anyway, exactly because the muddle class would be particularly affected, I think it is a political no go in the USA anyway.
but it really is a lot easier. Anyone with half a brain can see theres no god
@@thiagodeandrade7081 flat taxes only benefits one particular group which are those who propose and lobby for said plan *cough* the 1% *cough*.
If it is set to low, then the government couldn't afford any kind of social service / programa that benefits those who need them the most (like public schools and shit). If set to high the the middle and lower class get fucked real good. Or everyone just default to tax evasion (which the rich already do) but you can only get away with that evasion if you are wealthy l, and even then you have to be really careful, otherwise you know the taxman will come for your ass...
I really miss this depth of humor. So many layers. Like an onion.
What's hilarious is that everyone knows mathematics has been joked around and has even been taken very seriously by the greatest philosophers and mathematicians to be PROOF of God's existence.
The joke is clearly an inside one, because Homer is actually a dumbass haha.
Edit: Baked Onion
like our lord shrek
Thanks for your opinion Garen fan.
Appreciate you
@@LambGoatSoup
Nice repost.
@@scarletbard6511 why thank you
I'm a theist, and this was funny as hell.
I'm an anti-theist and on that you are correct.
I am God, and I wrote this scene.
@@spinoz2319unfunny
@@spinoz2319 shut up spinoza nobody agrees with you.
Go take your pantheism back to Italy.
I am the Devil and I animated this scene
Why is Ned so shocked and worried, he literally has a direct line to God, he's probably the only person ever to know for a fact God exists
That's called a delusion.
Looks like a physics proof, with spherical coordinates
I've always assumed the Christain god was spherical
@@naverilllang if the Christian God did exist and was the right one then fuck him, he made me suffer for most of my life because I’ve had many open heart surgery’s including lung disease
@@nathanpack6142 yeah but.... is he spherical?
@@Samstar369 No we don't all get nerfed. Some people have the most horrible lifes imaginable and for others it's smooth sailing. Don't try to legitimize that.
@@Samstar369 There is no proof whatsoever for Karma actually existing.
If there were a god (I don't see why that should be the case), that god is a giant asshole, to put it in human terms.
"Nope, its airtight" ahahahaha
I love that he becomes "super smart" and still hates Ned 🤣
"Here's a proof God doesn't exist" says the fictional character in a fictional world entirely created and controlled by higher powers.
This just in, Springfield's most devout Christian was arrested for arson, details at 6.
Ned’s reaction is also interesting. You’d think he’d go into a mental breakdown but he’s actually not very bothered and burns it to prevent other people finding out 🧐
It's sad how accurate this is.
Sounds very catholic to me lol
@@JLKDOOM Aren't most americans, fictional Flanders included, Protestant?
@@letsplayFan666 I didn't think so. Could be wrong. I thought non-denominational.
Church have been burning books since books existed.
love how they show how smart he is by having him solve a basket full of rubiks cubes instead of rescrambling one of them.
Watched this clip so many times and only just noticed the guy in the background reading the formula just as it finishes
“It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends on his not understanding it.”
-- Upton Sinclair
is this from the jungle?
.i.e. why so many of us can't be open about our fondness for Breadtube
the self assured, easy way that Homer laughs at the Gould joke is so spot on
What amazes me is that in any cartoon show whenever an extremely dumb character becomes extremely smart, he also immediately becomes an arrogant snob. I wonder how it would be in real life.
i mean... was he? helping others save time is pretty much the opposite of arrogance and snobbery.
"I refuse to prove that I exist,'" says God, "for proof denies faith, and without faith I am nothing."
"But," says Man, "The Babel fish is a dead giveaway, isn't it? It could not have evolved by chance. It proves you exist, and so therefore, by your own arguments, you don't. QED."
"Oh dear," says God, "I hadn't thought of that," and promptly vanishes in a puff of logic.
"Oh, that was easy," says Man, and for an encore goes on to prove that black is white and gets himself killed on the next zebra crossing.
- Douglas Adams
You gave me something I didn’t know I was waiting for lol thanks
Lets be honest: for there to be a flat tax rate, there has to be a god. No rate, no god.
It depends on which implies which. If a flat tax implies God, then no God implies no flat tax. But if God implies a flat tax, then no God could still imply a flat tax
@@alexandermcmiller6175 Maybe God and a flax tax rate are the same thing
You mean rich people who know they will actually pay more on taxes with a flat tax is god?
Yes. I agree.
@@stensoft Maybe the real God is the flat tax rates we made along the way. 🤷♂️
Clearly Ned's identity matters more to him than his actual beliefs.
The same is true for most people.
Must be an evangelical conservative lmao
Pretty much sums up the state of American politics.
Most of people are like that , religion or not.
That’s religion for you 😃
Homer: "God doesn't exist."
Also Homer: *whistles Glory Glory Hallelujah unironically*
Everyone here's arguing over God existing in our reality and yet I'm here remembering that God does exist in the Simpsons' universe. Homer's met him a few times IIRC.
Like the Mr. Plow episode when Homer and Barney put aside their differences to work together, God suddenly turns the weather to spring, then there was that episode where God saved the Flanders' boy going down the river. And the one where Homer took over the Church and it took Reverend Lovejoy to pray and stop the flood.
So yeah, Homer in this episode is wrong. God exists, in the Simpsons universe anyway.
Dude it's a cartoon
It doesn't need to have sense
@@XX-yl3wc It doesn't need to have sense, but it would be better if it had. in Shows with consistent settings and characters, inconsistent story telling is always a disadvantage, no matter if it's a cartoon or a lesser type of story telling.
Kaefer1973 not when it’s a cartoon. Suspend your disbelief.
@@benyseus6325 That depends on the type of cartoon. With the Simpsons is a bit hard to tell since it's neither a realistic cartoon nor a completely random one like the loony tunes, so the expectations of people my differ.
god only ever appeared in treehouse of horror, treehouse of horror is another branch of the simpsons, not connecting to the main simpsons.
i love the irony of the tune homer is whistling
if this were a futurama bit the writers would have made an actual mathematic proof showing there is no god
I love you can see Ned's face get shewdly dishevelled. He's calm but his whole way of life got atom bombed.
God this show was so good back in the day
@Edmund Blackadder god is real
@Edmund Blackadder its true
@Edmund Blackadder what
This is from Season 15
It's interesting to see Ned move on from the undoubtable proof so quickly. The rest of the episode counters this, but this clip in isolation shows that his religious identity could be more Heideggerian (believing man must hold something as sacred to push past the "existential angst") in nature than an epistemically-fueled principle
This man defined his terms for those that have never heard them before.
UPVOTE HIS COMMENT DAMMIT
@@bluemew22 Consciousness exists. Consciousness is additive (one conscious being might alter the consciousness of another). God is the sum of all consciousness. lol.
i actually talked with an atheist last night and he did what isaiah prophesied in isaiah 6, i gave him like 4 reasons why God exists but he ignored all of the reasons and changed the topic completely every time.
@@amos5557 While it isn't healthy to just ignore other sides of an argument, it's not hard to understand that some people don't want to spend their time discussing religion
@@johnhansen4794 Nonsense. Any proof for the existence of your imaginary god?
i'm more impressed that flanders did understand the mathematical proof of that
Bonus points to the person that thought to add Homer's whistling of "Mine Eyes Have Seen The Coming Of The Glory Of The Lord" while leafleting 😆
Everyone in here so proud of themselves for catching THE point of the scene.
Entertainment
"everyone is talking about 'b', but 'a'" "everyone is talking about 'a', but 'b'"
We are all just glad that so many others enjoy the same shows.
It gives us a feeling of unity.
Thank you for saving me the time to write the same thing.
See for me I don't understand mathematics, during homeschooling my mother was too stingy about buying useful schooling books instead rebuying the same books over and over again so I'm exceptionally ignorant as duck.
I love how defeated Flanders looks the more he looks at it
I like to think Flanders is canonically as smart as Homer and could have figured this out, but he enjoys his life with his faith and refuses to even approach the question of gods existence in fear that he does in fact find an answer and it's not the one he wants.
you know what? I think it might be fun to watch this episode again. I don't seem to remember this scene from it for some reason but I remember watching this episode back when it was new. quite an interesting take to see Homer Simpson smart for an episode.
Imagine calling the proof against God himself a "little doozy"
The best part about this is that Ned Flanders was not only smart enough to comprehend that there was no God in seconds, but that he destroyed it and carried on as normal suggesting that he had already once proved it to himself
The suggestion isn't that he once proved it himself
It's showing that he's remaining ignorant despite seeing proof against his belief
It suggests nothing of the sort.
Lots of people live in conscious denial of many things. Like people that get the mRNA vaccine for example denying to themselves the evidence that it’s dangerous.
@@nuclearcatbaby1131 Do you know how an mRNA vaccine works? If you did, or at least understood what mRNA was, you'd know its not dangerous.
Ned is a man of culture. He knows a civilization is composed of race, religion and culture. He is willing to sacrifice his beliefs for the good of civilization.
People need organized religion to find a sense of belonging and community. Religions also provide a social safety net for it's members.
Most charities and the largest ones aren't composed or created by atheists or none relgious people, they're actually religious charities. The largest global net of charities is the Catholic Church, yes that church is guilty of many evils but it has done more good than harm. There's evil people and good people everywhere.
This entire comment thread is the single most clever thing I've stumble upon in the entire platform.
I love the fact that Ned is smart enough to understand complex higher level math with ease and follow it quickly
Imagine making something like this after you've Literally met God.
Just because you met someone, doesn't mean you have to kiss his ** every sunday.
I mean you can if you _want_ but it isn't mandatory.
I mean did he tho? It was all shown thru Homer's perspective...
@@JoshSweetvale If I met good I would indeed kiss his a** every Sunday, and probably also every friday.
He hasn't met God.
He has met the show's fictional depiction of God.
Homer clearly recognized the nature of his fictional existence, extrapolated the nature of his non-fictional existence (a character in a cartoon, created by writers), and then proved the un-nature of *our* god.
That's what he handed to Flanders.
@Videoms Yeah, and when the seven lean years hit, you'll be a blackshirt and I'll be a partisan.
Sic semper tyrannis.
It's weird how Rubik's cubes are universally recognised as a symbol of intelligence even though most people who know how to solve one just memorised a bunch of algorithms
I know somebody who can solve one invariably in two minutes. Believes the universe is roughly six thousand years old, doubts dinosaurs ever existed and claims he would not use appropriate violence even to protect his own children.
They are a daft toy.
I mean the actual mathematical proof is just there being no proof of it's existence 🤷♂️
The funny thing was that Homer's IQ only went up to 105 after having the crayon removed. That's just above average, but he was portrayed as a genius.
Not only did homer accidentally do it, and made it fit into 1 side of paper, and have it be understandable in such a short and easy read, but he didnt spread it as the revalation it was or the story of a lifetime. Its just like giving your neighbour the extra bread yiu had before they go to the shops
well it's already obvious there is no god, but religious ppl don't care and they're all in denial
@@yourmum69_420 Tbf, proving there is no god is the closest thing to impossible. However, proving that there's no good reason to believe in one is easy.
@@Capybarrrraaaa indeed
This is a fair criticism. You should see the length of the mathematical proof for the equation 1+1=2
@@Capybarrrraaaa depends on the particular god. It's pretty easy to disprove an omnigod as it's paradoxical. Hence the paradox "if God is all-powerful can he create a rock so heavy even he can't lift it"
However a wishy-washy deistic personification natural forces is harder to debunk as those claims are intentionally unfalsifiable
“Good as Gould” makes me chuckle every time
There's a bunch of hidden meanings in this scene alone. Testament to how good simpsons used to be
I like how Family Guy and The Simpsons constantly see and meet God but then still deny his existence. 🤣
They gotta appease the christians and athiests somehow
wow everyone is getting into an argument because of a cartoon come on people find something better to do
GD Ozrix That was a little argumentative....
Thats why its more funnier
ikr. I'm sure the last thing the writers wanted was to spark some sort of intelligent debate.
@@TheNightmareFish this is probably what they wanted lmao
well liberal Satanic Atheist's be like this
I would certainly believe someone composed a mathematical proof that God doesn’t exist well before I believed that someone authored a tax plan that works and pleases everyone.
We could find a tax plan that pleases everyone if the progressives were't so fucking batshit they want to tax people on money they don't even have.
Georgian tax philosophy. Base taxes.....well it works, people will always I guess cry about something.
Proving god isn't real with math is infinitely easier than trying to please everyone on ANYTHING.
@@Wylie288 I'm not even gonna debate you rn but did you not just say "we could find a tax plan that pleases everyone if the people who aren't pleased would shut up"
@@guilhermeshiba3135 Yes. Education would fix the progressives problem with the current taxes. They have never made an argument against the current taxes that was based in any kind of reality.
I can’t believe Homer was one step ahead with the copies.
I just realized Homer is still inconveniencing Ned Flanders but just in a more civil, intelligent way.
This means that Flanders is now canonically an atheist and just pretends God isn't real for the remainder of the show.
Canon Simpsons ended in s9. this is all just fan-fic by wannabee writers.
@@apple54345 you people sound like snowflakes with statements like that
@@apple54345 the simpsons ended and Simpsons series #2 began with the episode with all the raccoons. All episodes before and after are different.
Since when has being shown proof of something stopped people from believing.
When you think about it, everyone is an atheist, some just pretend that there is a God that they believe in. If there was a god there would be evidence and part of that evidence would that there were no atheists. Can not have atheists if there are gods.
Simpsons predict that God doesn't exist
No, it's that Simpsons knew all along
he got plenty of copies flanders lol
How to someone discover that there's no god doing a "Flat tax proposal"?
I remember being a kid and thinking that this meant it was actually mathematically possible to disprove the existence of god(s).
Everything is possible, is just not mathematical proved yet
I like how Rod and Todd say _nothing._
Homer literally whistled “Glory Glory Tottenham Hotspur”.
I'm pretty sure that's an old civil war song
Why does Flanders have a lighter
I hope the proof was "as good as Gould".
Same thing happened to me while trying to figure out who Negan killed.
Homer solving cubes in 4 moves😂
The gould joke and Homer's subtle laugh was the best part
0:17 “better, I was working on a flat text proposal and I accidentally proved there’s no god.”
Flat tax
That encapsulates our tax code perfectly!
Shit. Typo.