Knocked myself out, lost my memory and did the Chewbacca...
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- čas přidán 14. 10. 2020
- Had a nasty crash after a case on a jump. Hooked the back wheel. Went over hard and knocked myself out and lost memory for the rest of the day. At the time I was wearing the Specialized Ambush MIPS helmet, but since that was now useless, I purchased the Fox Dropframe.
Thanks to THE BIKE PILOT for looking after me!
I since purchased 2 Fox Dropframe PRO helmets (these Fox Dropframe helmets have MIPS rotational protection).
Link to Virginia Tech helmet ratings: www.helmet.beam.vt.edu
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Head injuries SUCK! Anyone else had something like this?
Sorry to see that happen Rob. The wreck itself looked innocent enough but side impacts on the head is bad. I lost memory immediately before the crash. I remember hitting the face of the jump but nothing after until I woke up in pain. To lose memory for the rest of the day, that is scary. Glad you are back at it.
when i was 9.... no helmet....
@@phx4669 I thought I might be able to save it but couldnt unclip in time, momentum then did its part combined with gravity and slam dunked my head into the dirt 😴
Oooh, that was nasty! Hope it was a minor injury after all and that you are ok. The dangers with being clipped in I guess, otherwise you could have gotten away from the bike?
I learned from my younger days of motorcross, not only is your protective gear key to surviving a crash, but actually practicing "how to fall" can save your ass(or head in this case). I do not use clip in pedals for this reason. Excellent video! Glad you are doing better and most importantly back to riding! 👍
Great story telling Rob, really enjoyed you playing it back - obviously glad you’re ok too! The best bit is you’ve given me the best excuse so far for the mrs on buying a new helmet 😀 one more fox on order 😀👍🏻
Your videos get better and better, mate. Footage, editing and content. Keep up the good work !!
great production for this episode, very slick, nice to see you have dusted yourself off and getting back on the saddle :)
It’s tough being tough Rob! Lol! I’m glad your ok. It’s easy to forget how fragile we are until we are suddenly reminded. And I mean suddenly!
Glad your OK. Production was amazing on this video 📹
I hope you are good mate.
rest up, come back stronger.
thinking of buying my first e-bike and your channel has been great
Why no full face helmets in the test results???
Glad your ok buddy! be safe out there!
Thanks for the video, glad you're OK 👍
Glad you’re ok. Make sure you take it easy for a bit though
Now THAT was a different EMTB vlog ! Superbly produced again, a serious subject and very common in bike riding , loved the humour aspect too. Time for a new half face helmet then !
Hi Rob, Chris in Lake Tahoe here. Enjoy your videos and have learned a lot from you. I too am recovering from a nasty crash similar to yours on September 6. Small lip, short gap, OTB for me. Fractured ribs, big contusions to side and elbow. No loss of consciousness from the head impact but a hard hit to the helmet. I retired that helmet and haven’t been able to get back on the bike quite yet, so was shopping for a new helmet online this week and hadn’t decided what to buy. Thanks for the tip about Virginia Tech’s ratings. I may also buy the Dropframe. Stay safe, keep ip the great work and #nomorecrashies!
Wow man ....hope you get well soon💪
Eesh! This was hard to watch. Glad you're okay dude! The Dropframe looks like a great middle ground between the not-so-protective traditional bike helmets and the full face helmets. Will definitely take a look!
A superbly produced personal safety vid. There's nothing like actual experience to focus what's left of your battered brain on using good kit.....Btw Rob, You do realise that you're gonna have to nail that jump successfully to conquer any hidden demons don't you..? 😊.... And be sure to record the experience for us all to share.
It looks sketchy as hell and probably built by well meaning kids which is why you always need to ride a jump with someone that's been over it before..!
The editing on this was awesome!
Remember the Bell slogan back in the 80's "Got a $10 head, buy a $10 helmet!"
That's a very smart and misleading marketing slogan.
If you would have checked the full list you would have seen that there is close to none correlation between price and safety rating (3rd place 50$, towards the end of the list 180$, 18$ helmet better than 10 times more expensive).
Like the helmet glasses combo - looks good
That's actually very scary. Had a similar experience while biking at night out in the Nevada desert. Was with my son and, on a slightly smaller jump, went face forward and hit the floor face first. Lost conscious for a good 30+ seconds. Half helm did provide some protection, but I will NEVER ride terrain with jumps/downhill without a full face helm. I still go out in the desert at night, but mostly simple fire trails. I considered the Fox Speedframe Pro but I prefer something with a bit more side/back protection, similar to this model.
Glad you're ok...memory loss is not good. I nearly ran into a tree two days ago as my rear end slid out at some speed...a reminder of what makes MTB exciting but a warning, especially as I'm in my sixties. Stay safe takes a different meaning for us MTBers!
Over took someone at bpw and hit a rut, did a flip over the handle bars and smashed my shoulder, then head in to the ground.... Big Bang, lights out... then came to with a massive ringing in my ears and no idea what was going on... so glad I had my bell mips helmet on ✅
Riding back from my sisters one evening up and over Ditchling beacon about 12 miles I was taken out by a badger 200 metres from my home,it run through me like I wasn't there. It hit me from the left running in to the front wheel or bottom bracket,a milli second of scuttling paws warning in the dark,twisting me and Levo as if in slow motion through the air with the badger lite up by my lights,no doubt a badger and landing shoulder then helmet impact . I will get a new one but really not impressed with what is out there,got to push for change. Thank god for motor bike gloves! Great work
I did the same on a dirt jump about 5 yrs ago. Woke up in a ambulance get yourself checked out always I say 👍 stay safe people
Glad your ok bud!👍 Not sure if you remember but just before accident you promised to send me the Focus Sam2 to use for the rest of the year!🤔😉
Glad your ok Rob! I really like the dropframe helmets but they just don’t fit me properly! 😢
Glad you are doing ok
Hey Rob, Sorry off topic what are all the lenses you use for your 100% S3's seen a couple of different ones in your vids great vids btw! your advice has sold me on a few things i.e this vid, thanks. :)
@Rob Rides EMTB - ugh. If anyone has been riding / jumping for any length of time, these things can / will happen. Much more so if you are intentionally riding parks or jumps. Glad to see you are back with us. Full face doesn't solve these problems, but it sure does protect your face. The only "feedback" I have for stuff like this is to eject early, but once you case... it is balling up and rolling with it.
Thank you for sharing and I hope you are doing well. CTEs are no joke. :(
What a great video Rob and a hugely important thing to talk about. Having returned to MTB'ing after 10 years off, I basically bought a load of cheap kit to get started again - helmet included. But obviously it's one item you shouldn't scrimp on, so I've taken the plunge and used my Wiggle Platinum discount to buy myself a Fox Dropframe Pro MIPS for £158. Bargain.
If you weren't a Fox ambassador before, you damn well should be now 😂
Very informative video. Also what is that cool Fox jersey you are wearing. I can't find that on their website.
I agree, every time you hit your head with any helmet no matter the sport. Change them!!! Yes it's expensive but it's your head! Do now buy used helmets for sure! Thanks Rob, we don't really hear see that much about why is so important to replace the helmet after we hit it!!!
I've seen some people and even pros dropping them or throwing them on the floor.....
Been there, done that over a double table top up local trails I've done 100 times before...it's weird cause you don't feel the impact. I also knackered my shoulder and had lots of other cuts and bruises. Didn't have a clue how long I'd been out for before I was found as I was riding by myself. Glad your ok Rob.
I came off my bike on Sunday, had a battery in my backpack,. I hit my head really hard, wasn’t knocked out, I knew it had been a big hit my neck muscles have whiplash my tinnitus has been turned up to 10 and I have been feeling bad all week. I told myself when I got home that I had to look for a better helmet. This video appeared just at the correct time for me, thanks.
5 months ago I had the worst crash ever in my 35 years of mountain biking. Multiple broken bones and got knocked out for the first time ever. I wasn’t out for very long and was lucid after coming to. I was too hurt to continue riding down the hill so I started walking. After about 10 minutes I realized I couldn’t remember which trail I was on. 2 guys who saw the crash asked if I needed help to which I replied yes. The broken bones were no fun to deal with, but scariest part of the whole thing was the head injury. For the next 4 months I had headaches, brain fog, compromised balance, vertigo and ringing ears. Thankfully, most of these symptoms have subsided but I was terrified that I’d scrambled my brains forever. I was finally able to get back on the bike 3 weeks ago and I’m doing well. At the time of the accident I was wearing a Troy Lee Designs A2 helmet. It got flattened on one side from the impact but undoubtedly saved my life. After careful consideration I finally decided on a new helmet to replace the ruined one. Like you, I chose the Fox Dropframe. Hope you have recovered well.
Yes back in May this year I came off mine and did exactly the same my brother was with me I kept repeating myself so he knew I wasn't right I was wearing a specialized ambush and it was also trashed but saved my Life. I now wear a poc tectal and giro with mips! I did break ribs and was bruised and very lucky good helmets are a must!!! Great video as always very glad your OK stay safe ❤️❤️
Glad you’re OK! I also had the Ambush which was great
Hi Rob I had a Met Parachute came off a jump at Bikepark Wales and knocked myself out last year, I’ve still got no memory of what happened but I believe hole heartedly that helmet saved my life so I know exactly what you mean by drop a helmet replace it. Hope you are still well and keep up the great videos 👍
Hi @RobRidesEMTB ! Where it happen? So beautiful lake. Is it Berkshire?
This happened to me last year. I was alone and crashed hard. I remember being in a lot of pain and thinking I should sit for a while. I then blacked out. I felt like I was asleep and dreaming and forgot what I had been doing. When I came to, I was surprised I wasn’t in my bed. I was actually walking my bike down the trail and had taken off my removable chin bar. And, another rider was walking his bike with me, as he came upon me and knew something was wrong. It took me several minutes to remember where I was and what was going on. I told the other rider he didn’t need to keep walking with me, as I felt bad for ruining his ride. After he left, I wasn’t sure if he was real or if I had imagined him. It was definitely a scary event.
Best video title in a long time.
Ouch. That one hurt. Sorry about that.
Interesting. The look of those is kind of growing on me now too. I was waiting for the cut on that drop frame to see the damage
Hope you are feeling better. I came off and broke my collarbone at the weekend do you know of any equivalent tests like this for the rest of the protection kit that can be purchased ... trouble is I don't even know what to search for in order to get good protection without wandering around the woods like an extra from Mad Max.
Anyway the helmet is on order even though I didn't really hit my head. I have just got to wait a few more weeks before I can get back on the bike (or even move faster than a slow shamble :-) )
Glad you're OK. A few weeks ago I had a similar crash, my face on the ground, the day I decided to leave the chin bar at home 😡
No lost of consciousness but I was close to. Always full helmet is the best advice 😉
I wear a Bell Super 3R all year round and for commuting to work. Might still have got knocked out in that crash, but in general use provides good protection for the face, teeth and jaw.
Not in emtb so far luckily but in motor racing after a high speed crash, post concussion lasted a while, proper nasty.
Great video, thanks
I've been lucky not to experience any bad crashes (yet), but I've got that same fox helmet and it definitely makes me feel safer and more confident!
Its pretty good, loads of folks dont like the look, i personally think it looks good and decent level of protection...
Brilliant 😂 glad you’re ok and can laugh about it now
For sure! Gotta laugh about these things, learn and get better
Nice lake, where is that? Hope ur recovered, ive bounced on my head loads! Few concussions, modern helmets are great
I am glad that you are back Mate! .. and fully recovered. Your aftermath is spot on a no you send very very important message. Thank you!
IMHO It would be worth to check exactly what went wrong. Again with all the respect you did not that bad.. the jump is not the monster though the case is huge and serious consequences. I am by no means expert.. my couple of cents: unclip.. never never try your skills or stretch your abilities clipped,.. flats would let you take the gear out and maybe bailout? Flats would help you learn to save yourself? On landing you were extended and you squeezed nicely.. so vertical speed and g where not the problem though I am not sure about suspension.. but what through you off was horizontal speed reduction and inertia took you front and right.. bike went with you because you are clipped in.. but no rolling and there was zero reaction.. on take off you had enough of speed IMHO the jump squeeze and extension where to early.. like you would like to jump over the the lip and not from the lip.. take a safer jump and try later extensions to see the better results.. my first small jumps went from 1,t meter to 2,5m distance just working on this part with the same speed (on small small lip). again.. I don’t want to make you feel bad about all that.. this is IMHO excellent lesson we all can take. There are not enough movies talking about those kind of things.. I hope you get my point..
Glad you're ok. Might be a good idea to take a cycling break for the next few days and get someone to keep an eye on your behaviour, just in case what you think you're doing and what you're actually doing are different. Give your brain a chance to recover fully. A good mate of mine knocked himself out for several hours in a forest trail... he woke up thinking he was lying down in his living room with pine trees coming out of the carpet and touching the ceiling. He too lost memory of what happened... although from where his bike was he pieced together that he hit a tree at full speed. Riding alone has its risks.
Hi Rob, Loving your videos, got my first emtb about 5 weeks ago (A trek Tail 7) and have clocked up 800km already. As i am going further away and usually riding on my own i am extremely aware of if i have a stack in the middle of no where. I am looking at Phone apps and GPS or maybe even a personal EPIRB would love to hear your thoughts or reviews on the best options for saftey devices when riding alone. Cheers Brett
Ouch, nasty fall. I went OTB last week at Long Mynd. All captured on the GoPro 😀
I just had a similar impact to the floor - Fox speed frame - similar to that helmets without the cheek pads.
I pounded the ground with my knuckles sprained the left hand and broke the index finger just behind the knuckle. once that was sorted ( taped to immobilized for two weeks) I checked out my Helmet and discovered the MIPS system was twisted 20 degrees. Closer inspection revealed the yellow plastic anchor popped and one other stretched. I am totally sold on this system and on the enduro Foxhead helmets for the side-impact coverage, and for me the fit and airflow. Initially tried the POC but they do not fit my square head.
I hit the top of the helmet at 11 o'clock with the chin tucked - impact to head, left triceps/ shoulder, and hands-on the grips punching the ground, with a torque moment of the bars accelerating my right hand counter-clockwise punching into the hardpan dirt.
New helmet ordered.
Pleased your okay mate 👍
No good! This is the only video I have seen of Rob’s that I don’t really like. I love the message, I just do not like seeing people I like getting knocked out or injured. Helmets are the bee’s knee’s. I ride motorcycles and refuse to ride without the best helmet money can buy. I’ve rode my whole life and enjoy it like nothing else. The only way to live long while enjoying it, is to wear a quality helmet that fits well. I have the same POV when it comes to riding bicycles. I really like the looks of that Fox helmet Rob is wearing while showing us wear he got Ko’d.
Rob that squeak noise when cutting like nails on a blackboard lol. you only get one head look after it
Yup, Virginia testing data is how I narrowed down what helmet to wear.
I hit a dry stone wall at high speed. Impact to the head split my GIRO but it saved my life.
I was out for 3 minutes! Fortunately Fox Proframe saved my life!
I've had one of those, jump over a farm bridge over a canal, decent lip but my back wheel landed in a big pot hole with a sharp edge, with similar results to yours. Funny thing for me was when I got up all the green colours bled into everything else and the world turned fluorescent green 😂
I fractured my skull, broke my c7 and t12 vertebrae, collarbone, 6 ribs and punctured my lung.
OTB and landed on my head.
Was out and did perform the wookie.
I still remember the big blue flash.
To me the most interesting was that there is close to none correlation between safety rating and price (3rd place 50$, towards the end of the list 180$, 18$ helmet better than 10 times more expensive).
Yip
Snapped my forks early afternoon
Woke up and it was just on dark can't remember walk back to car
Then off to hospital for a checkup.
No long term damage.
Thanks Bell for saving my noggen.
Very surreal experience
Hope you're all good mate
I wear bell full faces only when riding, you never know when you’re going to have a huge unexpected crash.
If you really black out or can't see/speak right or have memory loss after head trauma: call ems or go to the hospital and have yourself checked immediately. Glad you're ok.
I have one of those fox helmets , that makes me feel happy that I chose well
Misjudged one half that height, went OTB into a rock garden. Knocked out, three stitches in top lip and a torn wrist tendon. A few milliseconds of misjudgement....
EDIT:Forgot to mention that no more silly hats for me, it just pushed to one side. A Giro helmet is the go for me now.
Rob I’ve been looking at these my head is 58cm so not sure if I’ll need L or XL. What size head and helmet is yours?
I’m 58cm and tried a large on yesterday. 👌🏼
I pretty much did the same thing 1 month ago. Endo’d over the bars and face planted. Helmet did me absolutely no good, multiple lacerations and abrasions to face and forehead with multiple dermabond repairs, I’ve only been on the bike one since, but I bought a full face BELL. Those stupid skull caps do nothing for your face and jaw. I’ll gladly be hot, to protect my face
Silly boy, glad you are ok..my ex Director died this week after hitting a pothole so take care everyone.
Shiiiiiit...on an MTB?
@@TheBikePilot yep
I had a dilemma, back in the summer, when looking for a new helmet for my 10 year old daughter. She is very much into XCO as well as trail riding. Her cross country races are technical to a degree but from next year the technical challenges will increase quite a lot as has been the trend in the UCI XCO races. Most of the kids of her age group and older tend to wear roadie style helmets but I feel that they don't offer enough protection for the type of riding she is doing. Eventually I bought a POC Tectal Race Spin helmet in white/black XS. It is a bit of a standout helmet but it's comfortable, safe and provides me with a high level of assurance (and her) should she ever come off her bike, and my daughter loves it. A lot of money but money well spent.
It actually looked quite an innocuous crash, but could have been really serious. Think I need to upgrade my helmet.
Put ice on affected areas as soon as you can. Ice can even minimize stroke damage.
I am Chewbacca, and I approve this episode
I had a high speed off and knocked myself out also came to on a trail i knew really well and didn’t know where I was or what I was doing there. This was after riding all my life like yourself and having many offs. I then did it again almost 12 months later not quite as bad but bad enough so I took 6 months off cycling. I’ve had some random long term stuff like anxiety and stuff but generally good. Still cycling strong today.
Experienced stuff like this cause it happened to my dad when we were biking in the remote area in the Croatian mountains, on the descent for unknown reason he missed the bend and just continued straight out of the road and went over the bar, hit the ground with his head and he didn't have the helmet. Luckily he hit the grass, not the rocks. But impact was really hard, he was bloody and face completely swollen and blue, like Mike Tyson knocked him out. He had no recollection what happened, he didn't remember where were we, how did we got there, why we were there, where he lives and so on, he kept repeating the same questions all the time, couldn't remember anything I kept repeating and explaining. I couldn't know if he had internal head bleeding so I called the ambulance but it took them almost an hour to find us, they called me 5 times at least cause they were getting lost trying to find us. That was the longest hour of my life because if he had internal bleeding it could have been the end. I was so worried cause his memory was not coming back, even after an hour he still had no clue like just after the crash. He only came to senses in the hospital some 3 hours after the crash but luckily he had no internal bleeding. Unfortunately he damaged his shoulder ligaments and had to have surgery. But memory of the fall never came back.
I had a crash years ago when basically the back of my helmet broke off.
I'm sure it was a met helmet.
If you sent them the helmet with a description of what happened they would use that info for research and you got a new helmet with a percentage off.
One bump or drop of a helmet get a new one.
I've been called worse than chewee
i did something similar recently but even worse and a brutal OTB. note to self and everyone willing to read this: if you're going to jump, man you need to commit and make sure you're carrying speed. too slow is common and brutal unless you're on a proper dirt jump. trail jumps require aggressive commitment.
never nice crashing, what bike were you on?
Mondraker Crafty Carbon RR
I split a Burn hat into on a OneWheel I am not over it yet!
After TBI you need AT LEAST 2 weeks total break. Otherwise you risk Lou Gehrig's disease.
Ive heard this before. Ive not researched to find out how likely this is but it makes sense....
That is not true. Source: pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/31116639/
But yes, TBI is serious and you should avoid further trauma to the head for two weeks.
@@regeb000 Uh. Better do a good research before you say something is not true. There are multiple studies. Some of them (mostly old with outdated methodology) show no correlation. But some like this one definitely show them. From this very study: "In this case-control study, head injury was associated with an elevated risk of ALS, particularly for recent repeated head injuries. Based on small numbers, the odd of having ALS was 11 times higher for individuals with more than one head injury in the 10 years prior to diagnosis. "
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2239342/
And this is just top of an iceberg. There are other amazing things you will get from consecutive TBIs. Depression is one of them.
@@sztigirigi Well, it looks like you didn't do your research, and you didn't read the study you cited in full. Your statement is still not true. Nowhere in the study is any reference to a time period of two weeks or a "total break". The study you mentioned is interesting but not convincing. It shows a statistical correlation in small numbers, that doesn't mean causation. 11 times higher may sound much, but if you understand the underlying statistics of small numbers it isn't. Quotes from the study: The major limitation of this study is that cases and controls were interviewed by different methods and therefore potential bias from this source is of concern. As with many of the previouThere s studies, the statistical analyses were limited by small sample sizes. Therefore, the authors can not exclude chance as a potential explanation for the findings.
@@sztigirigi no doubt TBI is very harmful and can cause severe conditions. For example cronic traumatic encephalopathy. But the correlation with ALS is still only a statistical hint.
Hi Rob,
Can i ask a question please mate
I have just been for my first ride with my new fox dropframe helmet and what i found was that it pushes my current glasses down on my nose.
Could you please advise what you find to be the best fit glasses for this helmet. Cheers mate in advance.
Hi - I had similar but with goggles. I spared the helmet pad / foam piece out by the neck to the smallest one and this helped a bit! Give that a go 👍
Troy Lee stage is awesome chin guard is not noticeable very awesome helmet
Get a MIPs equipped helmet. I smack my head hard on concrete and I did not even get a headache. I was going 45kph at the time as well.
Funnily enough one of those helmets arrived in the post today! £180 wasted....unless I crash, then its a complete bargain!!!
Yeah more people need to know a about virgina tech, I donated them money after seeing my specilized echelon helmet as the worst rated and I'd been using it in Swinley Forest!
You and Virginia tech costs me 159.00 euros,love the drop frame and my head too🤜
Great helmet, shame about the fixed peak and non adjustable retention cradle, but only one of 37 given a 5 star rating.
What about the sizes? Is it small or more large?
I took 2 good wrecks this year on levo shit happens u be good ready to rip😁😁👍👍
You’d think you’d wear a full face after talkin Chewbacca...
Chewbacca recommends mtb helmets with MIPS design and force absorption capabilities
10 days in a hospital near Geneva after stacking it at Les Gets... no fun..
This was some advice I read somewhere. Buy the best helmet within a budget you are still willing to throw away. Because a new helmet is probably better than a helmet that you've had an impact with, so you shouldn't stick with that one.
Great advice
Maybe this will knock some sense into you .. specialized brought to market too soon( everytime) Shimano new motor heaven ( recall within days/shimano hell ) Bosch motor shoot out winner ... Time to wake up and realise that EVERYBODY has it wrong for EMTB except Rocky Mountain. That aside I Hope you recover quickly and are out on the trails again soon !
Which modell are your 100%?
Thought I'd clicked on a Casey video... 👍
lol was going to type the same. Good video :)
Where can I get them cool shades 😎