How To Figure Out If An Exercise Trains A Muscle Adequately with Bret Contreras

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    0:00 Intro
    1:02 Bret explains how biomechanics is being mis-used on social media
    3:30 What tools can we use to figure out if an exercise trains a muscle adequately?
    8:50 “Common sense” clues of a good exercise
    17:44 “Numerical” clues of a good exercise
    32:59 “Longitudinal” clues of a good exercise
    42:38 How do we best assess different exercises?
    48:49 The fallacy of trying to explain complex phenomena using a single cause/variable
    51:26 Closing thoughts
    55:47 Outro
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  • @DrJacobGoodin
    @DrJacobGoodin Před 2 lety +240

    Commonsense clues: generate hypotheses
    1. 08:52 - Feel of the exercise in the target muscle
    2. 10:59 - The burn in the target muscle
    3. 11:10 - The pump (at higher rep ranges)
    4. 12:10 - DOMS in proceeding 72 hrs
    5. 12:30 - Tension (visual and palpation)
    6. 13:23 - Fiber orientation & joint actions (muscle line of pull)
    7. 15:50 - Physiques of lifters who prioritize that lift (WLers quads & 🍑)
    Numerical clues: measure outcomes
    0. 17:17 - Mike's stimulator
    1. 17:40 - Wire and surface EMG
    2. 22:26 - TMG, MMG, and SMG
    3. 22:39 - Functional MRI (measures fluid shift post training)
    4. 23:20 - Ultrasound (longitudinal or immediate post training)
    5. 23:41 - Muscle biopsy (sarcomere disruption)
    6. 23:52 - Metabolites & glycogen depletion (lactate, creatine kinase levels)
    7. 26:04 - Hormonal factors (Test, free test, IGF-1, cortisol, HGH, etc)
    8. 27:06 - ROM and strain
    9. 27:15 - Moment arms and pennation angle (SOHCAHTOA)
    10. 27:40 - Force plate research (peak force, RFD, better for sport perf than hypertrophy)
    11. 28:57 - muscle force angle curves (passive + active force)
    12. 30:14 - musculoskeletal modeling
    13. 31:09 - Acute protein synthesis
    14. 31:14 - Intracellular signalling (MTOR vs AMPK)
    15. 32:03 - PAPE (formerly PAP, mostly for sport perf)
    40:50 Longitudinal Clues: test hypotheses (hypertrophy)
    1. Girth (not that kind)
    2. ultrasound
    3. DEXA
    4. BIA
    5. Bodpod
    6. Underwater weighting
    7. Skinfolds
    8. Combination modalities (CT scans + MRIs, etc)
    40:41 Longitudinal Clues: test hypotheses (strength)
    1. isometric, concentric, eccentric strength
    2. dynamometer (single joint strength)
    3. force plate (multiple joint strength
    4. 1RM or RM prediction equation
    42:04 Longitudinal Clues: test hypotheses (performance)
    1. ADLs (elderly or rehab, e.g. sit-to-stand)
    2. acceleration
    3. Max velocity
    4. Jumping performance & characteristics
    5. Agility & change-of-direction tests
    TL:DR Consider multiple pieces of the puzzle before bashing an exercise. No dogma. Thanks RP and Dr. Contreras

  • @Madchris8828
    @Madchris8828 Před 2 lety +428

    I love how Dr. Mike in the middle in a smaller chair. The chair height size difference reminds me of a certain meme 😂. I don't know if it was intentional, but it is funny

    • @LeoVillarroelCossio
      @LeoVillarroelCossio Před 2 lety +46

      I fkn love how Dr. Mike makes random comments every 2 and half minutes

    • @clarkkant5322
      @clarkkant5322 Před 2 lety +48

      I like how they decided it was a good idea to seat the tall people on tall chairs and the short person on a short chair. "Each to their kind" the chair fascists proclaimed.

    • @sherryemiller
      @sherryemiller Před 2 lety +31

      I’m assuming it was 100% intentional 🤣

    • @gaminikokawalage7124
      @gaminikokawalage7124 Před 2 lety +3

      @@clarkkant5322 lmaoo

    • @jaytherestless2117
      @jaytherestless2117 Před 2 lety +2

      prob was, its a smart way to highlight urself in the oposite way to what people expect 😂

  • @pancakerizer
    @pancakerizer Před 2 lety +105

    Damn, Dr Mike, PhD really tries his best to derail the conversation but Bret was relentless

  • @King_Konglish
    @King_Konglish Před 2 lety +177

    I remember thinking the Smith machine was a waste of time for YEARS because of free weight purists online.
    After watching RP I realized I was being an idiot. I’ll continue to be an idiot, but less of one thanks to you all!

    • @i-4271
      @i-4271 Před 2 lety +1

      How has the smith machine help you?

    • @janscholochua9800
      @janscholochua9800 Před 2 lety +4

      Smith machine is obviously useful. You just need to use some cells I figured that out when I was about 17 y/o.

    • @Madchris8828
      @Madchris8828 Před 2 lety +4

      If Chris Bumstead looks the way he does and sometimes does Smith machines I think most of the population can do fine on them🤣

    • @Tomy-im8zl
      @Tomy-im8zl Před 2 lety +2

      @@i-4271 I guess it's because it's easier to isolate the quads, more stability for motor unit recrutment, you can go deeper to stretch your quads even more

    • @King_Konglish
      @King_Konglish Před 2 lety +2

      @@i-4271 watch them do squats on the smith machine and you will understand haha
      Personally I like it for finishing off a muscle group like shoulder press, rows etc

  • @The3Lego3Freak
    @The3Lego3Freak Před 2 lety +66

    Brain hypertrophy for 1 hour on my rest day

    • @caseychambers5079
      @caseychambers5079 Před 2 lety +2

      whats the sfr on this video I dont want it to impact my recovery

    • @The3Lego3Freak
      @The3Lego3Freak Před 2 lety +4

      @@caseychambers5079 very good stimulus to fatigue ratio, just make sure to have an intra workout snack

    • @EliasMichalczuk
      @EliasMichalczuk Před 2 lety

      ​@@caseychambers5079 the sfr in this is literally incalculable

  • @gaminikokawalage7124
    @gaminikokawalage7124 Před 2 lety +24

    Dr. Mike in the short chair asserting his short king dominance

  • @reieli87
    @reieli87 Před 2 lety +46

    3:46 "I'm not a bro, I'm a scientist" Mike 🤣 That's gold, great information as always and good fun

  • @izzatramzi4334
    @izzatramzi4334 Před 2 lety +44

    I love how dr mike spit some jokes in between every point bret talks about😂

  • @mikemeskel
    @mikemeskel Před 2 lety +23

    57 minutes of listening to Jared clear his throat.

    • @JAREDFEATHERRP
      @JAREDFEATHERRP Před 2 lety +11

      Dude. I know. I told our video guy to mute my mic when I'm not talking. I didn't wanna film. I had laryngitis. Blame Mike for that

    • @mikemeskel
      @mikemeskel Před 2 lety +1

      @@JAREDFEATHERRP Yeah, it sounded like you were still in the process of getting over a nasty cold. If it were me editing the video, I would have muted the channel your mic was on except for when you were speaking. Mike’s mic might have picked up a little of it, but it wouldn’t be that bad.
      There was some good info though. And I enjoyed the seating configuration that made Mike look like a hobbit.

    • @zeuglcockatrice4633
      @zeuglcockatrice4633 Před 2 lety +2

      thx, now I can't unhear it

  • @sergiogaggioni2429
    @sergiogaggioni2429 Před 2 lety +12

    Out field needed someone like Dr Mike always keeping it light and fun. For so many years our field was just people who took themselves too seriously and made everything hella boring.

    • @bigbobut0
      @bigbobut0 Před 2 lety +3

      I'm impressed how informative Bret could make this podcast with 2 nine year old boys. Keep up the good work

  • @Yupppi
    @Yupppi Před 2 lety +6

    The setup is pretty epic. Put the biggest guys on an elevated platform around the smallest guy in the middle, and set them slightly closer to the camera. This is some game of thrones tier storyline.

  • @richardschatz9992
    @richardschatz9992 Před 2 lety +15

    This is awesome. I've been a Bret Contreras fan for years. Great to see him in an rp video.

    • @XatariTheGreat
      @XatariTheGreat Před 2 lety

      Too bad he likes to assault and pepper spray homeless people 🥶🥶

  • @Odegeras
    @Odegeras Před 2 lety +2

    Frick i never thought these were so damn funny, ill need to watch all of them, also love the energy and the hilarious setup, you are the best :D

  • @MrLamborghini1994
    @MrLamborghini1994 Před 2 lety +7

    Holy shit guys that was some proper nerd stuf, love it! I always found it kinda weird how dismissive some people got with exercises that others have done with great succes for years, this was really educational!

  • @WtbgoldBlogspot
    @WtbgoldBlogspot Před 2 lety +11

    There's a summary download link in the description.
    I've been looking for a lat isolation exercise recently, and tried lat prayers since Dr Mike recommended them in a vid. The cable machine in my apt gym snapped a while back and they just jerry-rigged it back together; the cable is shorter now than it's supposed to be. Fine for pulldowns, but I can't do the full-ROM on lat prayers. Also, I'm still pretty new to working out, so my lats aren't there/filled-out yet. So, for me I couldn't really feel the exercise in the lats, didn't get a pump, wasn't sore the next day, and wasn't even really sure I was doing them right. Point is, I have a video coming out soon on why the lat prayer is one of the top 3 worst exercises of all time and Dr. Mike is evil for recommending them. :P

    • @iancavender2034
      @iancavender2034 Před 2 lety

      🤣

    • @rockyevans1584
      @rockyevans1584 Před 2 lety

      And that video will be totally relevant to the current science and application recommendations. Feel like you can find some attachments to allow full rom on your prayers tbh

  • @ivancolandrea9583
    @ivancolandrea9583 Před 2 lety

    Awesome video. Love this style of video. Keep it up

  • @NAB5803
    @NAB5803 Před 2 lety +1

    Great discussion! Very critical too. Exercise selection is an ordinary thing, bu with a Lot of complexities. Good to see the balance between acadêmic and pratical knowledge.

  • @prateekpmewada
    @prateekpmewada Před 2 lety +2

    Dr. Mike steals the show every single time!

  • @willgriff.mp4
    @willgriff.mp4 Před 2 lety +1

    more of this!! love the nerdy techy talks

  • @manletsoup
    @manletsoup Před 2 lety

    Excellent topic. Thank you guys

  • @savchik1580
    @savchik1580 Před 2 lety +2

    Mike ripping ass at 18:36 killed me lmaoo, excellent discussion!

  • @bzeezus
    @bzeezus Před 2 lety +1

    Super informative and hilarious at the same time. Love Dr. Mike's commentary. Ha!

  • @markathey1510
    @markathey1510 Před 2 lety +2

    Dr. Mike is so relatable to me. Absolutely cannot pass up the opportunity to make a not so obvious joke, but the joke is always funny despite it being a little off beat. What a cool guy and clever guy. I would totally be your Freind Dr. Mike. Then you and I would no longer be Freind-less.

  • @stophi2581
    @stophi2581 Před 2 lety +1

    Mike put in on point: some people just love the easy answer. First they don´t need to take responsibility, for themselves - because if it doesn´t work it´s not their fault, it´s the fault of the person who told them and second: they don´t need to think by themselves. the problem is that there is no perfect exercise for any muscle for everyone. only for you - and you need to figure out what works best for you. and even then you can´t stop - because bodys change, you get older, bigger, smaller, etc - so you always need to listen to your body and figure out over and over again ...

  • @lexsmith7091
    @lexsmith7091 Před 2 lety +2

    Do you have a podcast? I could listen to you guys speak all day long.

  • @jamesk5369
    @jamesk5369 Před 2 lety

    Great discussion!

  • @cryptoallmight
    @cryptoallmight Před 2 lety +3

    Oh thanks so much for talking openly about it. You basically addressed everything I find wrong with these self-proclaimed experts. It's the basis of conspiracy theories. Sounds plausible and most people lack the ability and understanding to disprove it or counter their arguments.

  • @lucabalestra1638
    @lucabalestra1638 Před 2 lety +3

    Awesome to see Bret on here!

  • @juansamudio1171
    @juansamudio1171 Před 2 lety +24

    The collab that wasn’t expected but needed

  • @dondeezy
    @dondeezy Před 2 lety +3

    “You’re smart. Jared and I, we’re people… barely” 😂😂

  • @Strongirlmar
    @Strongirlmar Před 2 lety

    Ive been waiting for this

  • @mf_hume
    @mf_hume Před rokem

    Having this in depth content for free? What a time to be alive

  • @BatEatsMoth
    @BatEatsMoth Před 2 lety

    Wow, Machine, you and your slasher sidekicks really slayed this topic. I can't wait to see the new Dino Velvet original.

  • @barsenovic
    @barsenovic Před 2 lety

    This was AWESOME!

  • @O0o__.
    @O0o__. Před rokem

    thx very insightful. For Contreras this was like a group therapy :)

  • @Fohrenbach
    @Fohrenbach Před 2 lety

    Excellent video

  • @cianwalsh409
    @cianwalsh409 Před 2 lety +3

    Hey someone asked for this on dr mikes' tiktok and now they've got an hour long video, a little ironic since few who watch all the tiktoks(the one-third video is about) are going to watch this whole video.

  • @souldoula7436
    @souldoula7436 Před rokem

    This talk was amazing and we need more!! Jared clearing his throat constantly was a little bit distracting 😬 cough syrup or cough drop next time. Or music overlaid maybe. Thanks for all you brilliant guys do!! Much love ❤️

  • @anastasiaboulais4349
    @anastasiaboulais4349 Před 2 lety +27

    Great discussion, team, and very timely. I enjoyed hearing Bret present the framework and discuss its complexities. The contribution of this guy to general knowledge in the fitness industry is immense. I'd say Bret almost single-handedly brought strength (and of course, glute training) into the mainstream consciousness for women. But internet is a funny place and people would rather comment on his clothing choice, way of talking, seating arrangements, Jared having a sniffle, etc. etc. Carry on, gentlemen. Wish my professors in med school were as informative, humble and entertaining.

    • @RenaissancePeriodization
      @RenaissancePeriodization  Před 2 lety +11

      Thank you so much. Bret really is one of the OGs of evidence-based fitness. - Dr. Mike

    • @XatariTheGreat
      @XatariTheGreat Před 2 lety +3

      The internet is funny isn’t it, to bad people been commenting on the way he treats women and homeless people not his clothing choices

    • @wildthang9355
      @wildthang9355 Před 3 měsíci

      @@XatariTheGreatI know right, sooo funny?!

    • @Arturo_Fonseca
      @Arturo_Fonseca Před 23 dny

      @@RenaissancePeriodization at 12 : 30 of the Bret Contreras video "The Great Functional Training Debate" and I quote "don't get me wrong, I do a lot of the traditional stuff myself!”
      The Great Functional Training Debate | With Naudi Aguilar and Bret Contreras
      czcams.com/users/liveR7Dts-ttfUo?si=10rUvGOLjJxJSWuD&t=750
      "don't get me wrong, I do a lot of the traditional stuff myself!"

  • @WtbgoldBlogspot
    @WtbgoldBlogspot Před 2 lety +5

    Hey, pedantic question for Dr. Mike. You've talked about not working out with overlapping soreness. For me it's a gradient, where there's full 100% sore "Can't-walk-or-wash-my-face-Did-way-too-much DOMS" down to the 5% sore "when I flex my arm or pick up something heavy I can tell that I worked out in the past couple days but it doesn't hurt." Decent DOMS, say 50% on this soreness gradient, fades after a day, but it can take two weeks for a muscle to get down to 0%. For the overlapping soreness cue, are you mainly just saying that 20% soreness is fine, but we shouldn't work out with DOMS, or are you taking a hardline that we should be at 0%?

    • @cheddarpuff
      @cheddarpuff Před 2 lety

      Great question! I wanna know, too.

    • @nickliftstutorials6408
      @nickliftstutorials6408 Před 2 lety +3

      You’re probably doing too much volume for your body if it takes more than 3 days for doms to subside. If you wanna workout that hard save it for the week before a deload or an overuse injury is surely in your future; learned the hard way with high volume/frequency squatting.

    • @matthewclomo5265
      @matthewclomo5265 Před 2 lety +2

      I’d say you wanna feel fresh before each workout but that doesn’t mean 0% soreness. Your fatigue builds up until you deload. I tolerating about 20% soreness every now and than. It’s about making changes on the fly. If I’m still sore for the next workout I don’t increase anything and Keep it the same. If I’m really feeling sore, I will lower the volume by either weight or reps. If it’s taking you too weeks to heal, you are really overshooting volume potentially. You could also not be following a proper resting protocol. Look at your sleep, diet and other physical exercises and see if something needs adjustment there. It really sounds like you need to work out your MRV and if you don’t know what that is, Dr Mike had a lecture on it in his advance hypotrophy series.

    • @jishman101
      @jishman101 Před 2 lety +3

      It's only a problem if the soreness impedes your ability to perform the exercise.

    • @WtbgoldBlogspot
      @WtbgoldBlogspot Před 2 lety

      @@bjornprinz3900 For sure, but if you do 3 good myo/dropsets of curls, you can still feel it a little in your biceps 5 days later. The doms is gone, but there's a little smidgen or soreness that hangs around for a week or so.

  • @AlwayzPr0
    @AlwayzPr0 Před 2 lety +3

    Dr mike is just there to make off handed comments like a 5th grader, i love it

  • @sn0lder
    @sn0lder Před 2 lety +2

    loved this vid, never thought i would see bret on here!

  • @tanros266
    @tanros266 Před rokem +1

    Of course Dr. Bret is the authority, and having 2 doctors is always gonna be kinda dry but this is pure gold

  • @softacroaaron
    @softacroaaron Před 2 lety +1

    Fuck yes.
    I may have some actual to say after I‘ve listened. For now I’m just pumped about the video title.

  • @ralphanastasio9670
    @ralphanastasio9670 Před 2 lety +9

    It’s about time u got Brett on ur show. Great job! ur guys make a perfect team.

  • @nicholasingratta423
    @nicholasingratta423 Před 2 lety

    This is. Very advanced information

  • @joebob9725
    @joebob9725 Před 2 lety

    good content, excellent comment relief Dr M as always lol

  • @jwgosla08
    @jwgosla08 Před 2 lety

    This is the best placement of people in a video 🤣☠️👏🏻

  • @nickdutton6218
    @nickdutton6218 Před 2 lety +2

    This is literally my issue with my back and lats recently. I can't feel my lats! I went to the gym and tried every back exercise I could find. Still no indicators. Do I have even have a spine?

  • @tabbyteacup9847
    @tabbyteacup9847 Před 2 lety

    Education with a side of Dr Mike being a perv. Loved it

  • @Jaycolley8
    @Jaycolley8 Před 2 lety

    just in time for my session

  • @Ihavegivenup825
    @Ihavegivenup825 Před 2 lety +6

    first for manlet supremacy

  • @GokuPlaysUK
    @GokuPlaysUK Před 2 lety

    when i train sometimes ill throw flies in or a chest press machine im not sure if its cause its a new stimulus but compare to my main lifts dips bench etc i feel every contraction and super sore the next day compare to the compound lifts

  • @justintaylor4076
    @justintaylor4076 Před 2 lety

    I try and identify the difference between the con and eccentric part of the movement so I can tell witch way the muscle fibers run to contract harder to get out more reps.You can tell witch way the muscle fibers run by looking at the anatomy of the muscles however I've noticed people talk about natural pathways.In all honesty I try a combination of the previous tactic along with visualization on what I indeed to do alongside Premeditation and practice of remember and imaging with a honest do so and to do well as well as respect for what I'm doing in combination with strick form to help build a great mind Muscle connection.Meanwhile currently try to associate pain kill endorphins to enhance my results.I also associated more primal ideologies with the movements and ive been open to accepting ideas that mite help me understand that the actions I partake in are now justified to a be more current day form of hunting and adrdilin and or fatigue even for the life of me type of event.

  • @scotadam
    @scotadam Před 2 lety +6

    Poor Brett. He is there trying to have an informal lecture and then there are the other two who remind me of my sixth grade class.
    JK. Love the conversation. Thanks for the information.

  • @ghfjfghjasdfasdf
    @ghfjfghjasdfasdf Před 2 lety +3

    “I’m not a bro, I’m a scientist.”
    Dr. Mike 2022

  • @takek7739
    @takek7739 Před 2 lety

    Dr Mike can you talk about German volume trainnig and German volume training body recompe ( Charles poliquin)

  • @healwithsteel
    @healwithsteel Před 2 lety +15

    Dr. Jorts himself! Excellent discussion men. Love to talk about the biomechanics of the vertical leg press some day

  • @ReversingTheSpell
    @ReversingTheSpell Před 2 lety +7

    Kassem, Carter and Brignole should do a roundtable response to this, that'd be the funniest shit ever lmao!

    • @blaizenflame
      @blaizenflame Před 2 lety +2

      Two of those are too incoherent to make that possible lol

    • @ReversingTheSpell
      @ReversingTheSpell Před 2 lety +1

      @@blaizenflame Brignole is a total potato, the other two are on point though!

    • @Dtaysh
      @Dtaysh Před 2 lety +3

      @@ReversingTheSpell carter’s a potato, too. Lives by anatomy studies and metadata but when it comes to epidemiology and virology data it’s nOt ScIeNcE. He preaches having dropped out of high school yet knows more than these PhD’s?! Meh. Not feeling it.

    • @ReversingTheSpell
      @ReversingTheSpell Před 2 lety

      @@Dtaysh What the fuck does virology have to do with biomechanics?

    • @kimjongun2536
      @kimjongun2536 Před 2 lety

      Kassems a nice guy who loves to argue ,but doesn't understand biomechanics .Paul is just a narcistic dickhead who cant take criticism. Both dont understand research and think their 'in house anatomical studies' prove their claims .

  • @chad_slatch
    @chad_slatch Před 2 lety +9

    Hey Dr. Mike, I was thinking of this exact topic today before this video was posted. It would be cool to have a video that outlines the most hypertrophic exercise per muscle group. But, after watching this, if the data just isn't out there, it would still be interesting to hear a list of you, Charly, and Jared's favorite exercises per muscle group.

    • @rockyevans1584
      @rockyevans1584 Před 2 lety +3

      That just seems to fly in the face of the individualistic and ever changing optimal exercise selection/ rep range/ volume per person and their given situation. Best exercises don't exist as far as broad recommendations, don't you want to know the best combination of exercises at the right dose for you currently?

    • @Jorge.A.12
      @Jorge.A.12 Před 2 lety +2

      Simple, theres no secret to it, no need to overcomplicate things. Any isolation exercise works the target muscle 100% while compound exercise spread the work around, to what percentage depends on the exercise and even then it might not be posible to calculate since its highly variable depending on stuff like individual anatomy. There are pros and cons of isolation and compounds, if you try to isolate every single muscle you are gonna spend half of your day in the gym and it might not be necessary for optimal gains, might even be too much stress for your joints.
      IMO Just do whats safer, no exercise is necessary.
      Best is combination of both. Take for example back squat as your compound exercise and isolate the muscles that dont get much of the % of the load during the squat like the hamstrings.
      Dont like squats? Just do leg presses or other squat movement machines.
      Haven't watched the video but thats probably their conclusion.

    • @RenaissancePeriodization
      @RenaissancePeriodization  Před 2 lety +3

      Check this out!!! rpstrength.com/hypertrophy-training-guide-central-hub/ - Dr. Mike

  • @davereid-daly2205
    @davereid-daly2205 Před 2 lety +1

    So am I correct in suggesting that a human performance facility needs to be created that tests biomechanical theory as a fulltime pursuit rather than using the university PhD model?

  • @SomeWhiteGuy_
    @SomeWhiteGuy_ Před 2 lety

    We are all friends in the journey to self mastery!!!!

  • @cheddarurchin3844
    @cheddarurchin3844 Před 2 lety +1

    I love a short king 👑 especially for cuddles 🥰

  • @fdddff47
    @fdddff47 Před 2 lety +4

    I would love to see a more scientific debunking style of video about Doug brignole etc. A lot of what he is saying makes sense to me and I tried it with good results (12 years of training experience). Greetings

    • @RenaissancePeriodization
      @RenaissancePeriodization  Před 2 lety +1

      He has a lot of great stuff to say, but maybe some stuff that's not super obvious. Sorry if you've already seen this vid but here is another take: czcams.com/video/cBGTHmHQtxk/video.html - Dr. Mike

  • @bp56789
    @bp56789 Před 2 lety +1

    My eyes went unfocused for a second, and it looked like Mike was standing up and being the widest dwarf I’ve ever seen.

  • @Whoareyou127
    @Whoareyou127 Před 2 lety

    You guys are awesome! Have you guys considered doing this on a sofa? That's my only negative take on this as you guys look somewhat uncomfortable sitting there for almost an hour.

  • @craigslistreply6544
    @craigslistreply6544 Před 2 lety +5

    that's actually dr mike's actual size

  • @Sk0lzky
    @Sk0lzky Před 2 lety +1

    My right flexor digitorum longus often cramps af when I do hollow body pull ups, time to measure the activation lmao

  • @fadsfit2799
    @fadsfit2799 Před 2 lety

    pleas talk about special sports supps when u go to london ♥

  • @liamcarter6928
    @liamcarter6928 Před 2 lety +3

    Petitioning to funnel 50% of DoD budget to form the gains industrial complex

  • @davidwear9981
    @davidwear9981 Před 2 lety +1

    Its like Lord of the Rings with the perspective making Mike look like a hobbit; hilarious!

  • @Dad_K
    @Dad_K Před 2 lety

    When are we getting the ol Bilbo Swaggins aka Johnny Haack aka Captain America juice?! You're such a tease, Mike.

  • @Cronus111
    @Cronus111 Před 2 lety

    RP video team pulling some Peter Jackson trickery.

  • @NormanKonstantin
    @NormanKonstantin Před 2 lety +15

    This is the era where "fitness professional" only focusing on muscle anatomy and function preacher everything else mean nothing. That will pass eventually too. There is definitely more to the full hypertrophy picture than that one thing. Great discussion!

    • @Juneth-ou7re
      @Juneth-ou7re Před 2 lety +1

      This is pretty short sighted. Using anatomy and physics as information to give us a better idea on exercise selection to achieve a specific goal with a particular ROI shouldn’t be a “phase”. Should we go back to just using feel for everything and waiting on poorly designed studies to give us the go ahead to do things? Studies where participants apparently do 30 sets to failure and use EMG as a main metric? No that’s ridiculous. The studies have value but it would be ridiculous to rely on them, just like it would be ridiculous to rely solely on feel (bros), and JUST like it would be ridiculous to focus just on anatomy (Doug brignole lol) It’s not one or the other. It’s EXTREMELY useful knowledge to have and use so we aren’t just throwing darts at the dartboard of exercise selection. Anatomy, physiology, and biomechanics give us better mechanistic explanations to explore THROUGH research and anecdote.

    • @NormanKonstantin
      @NormanKonstantin Před 2 lety

      @@Juneth-ou7re feel free to reread my comment and interpret it...

    • @Juneth-ou7re
      @Juneth-ou7re Před 2 lety

      @@NormanKonstantin lol fair

  • @nottheone582
    @nottheone582 Před 2 lety

    lol the quips are the best part of this - dr bret's trying to be serious... does he know which yt channel he's on?

  • @Gym-Girls
    @Gym-Girls Před 2 lety +4

    Lol this reminds me of the forced perspective in lotr

  • @leinekenugelvondoofenfocke1002

    Also, replication studies often don't get published. Thus they don't get done in the first place. The scientific method demands replication, but the journal that should publish it demands new shit instead.

  • @qllonskomplow
    @qllonskomplow Před 2 lety +2

    I'm not even 6minutes into this and I'm cracking guys... x'D
    video idea: Bro gym expresions made intellectual (like the "extreme cell swelling" you said XD)
    btw, GAINZ economy its fundamental 🤣
    Even before seeing the video, thanks for the free and humorously wisdom you share 🙌

  • @ryandalessandro4139
    @ryandalessandro4139 Před 2 lety +2

    Interesting seeing Bret after our leader bashed EMG… Great video

    • @cdrtej
      @cdrtej Před 2 lety +1

      Bret humble now about limits of emg

  • @ridhwankazi9503
    @ridhwankazi9503 Před 2 lety +2

    on of the best things was comparing old school body builders to the kinda weird era right after were body builders had a giant gut and didn't really look that great lmao

    • @culdeus9559
      @culdeus9559 Před 2 lety

      That was before they figured out how to get the tren cycle right.

  • @Joe_Pittard
    @Joe_Pittard Před 2 lety +5

    Smol mike

  • @FrankCPS
    @FrankCPS Před 2 lety +1

    Do more concentration curls, got it 💪🏻

    • @karl5563
      @karl5563 Před 3 měsíci

      That's what I heard too

  • @lucasjay1000
    @lucasjay1000 Před 2 lety +1

    Kassem and Paul Carter are blowing up Instagram fitness lol, as an advanced lifter I do really like some of their recommendations on exercise selection

    • @douglasschrift4453
      @douglasschrift4453 Před 2 lety +9

      Yep. That’s becoming the ‘in’ thing lately it seems. And you’re right, as an advanced lifter, SOME of what they say as far as exercise selection can be beneficial. No doubt
      But I find those guys often miss the Forrest for the trees. They get soooo caught up in the nuance of things that it seems they forget to talk about what makes the bulk of all our progress. Not saying they don’t have good info and that they aren’t correct with a lot of things. But it just seems like there’s a trend lately to reinvent the wheel and modify every lift to make it the most perfect quad, lat, etc exercise

    • @lucasjay1000
      @lucasjay1000 Před 2 lety

      @@douglasschrift4453 for sure, I’ve seen so many Instagram fitness pages copy and pasting whatever Kassem says lately. I will say like 75% of what he says makes sense.

    • @kimjongun2536
      @kimjongun2536 Před 2 lety

      to be fair Paul and Kassem hates these wannabe biomechanics experts on social media who regurgitate their content with poor understanding and zero nuanece

    • @lucasjay1000
      @lucasjay1000 Před 2 lety

      @@kimjongun2536 I definitely understand why. People are legit just copying everything they say because they have no content of their own

  • @mocotonio
    @mocotonio Před 2 lety

    somebody get me the link for the hamstring injury prevention article that he mentions at 48 minutes.

  • @KasumovMedia
    @KasumovMedia Před 3 měsíci

    The perspective on this is hliarious😂

  • @88BigPhill88
    @88BigPhill88 Před 2 lety +2

    I don't know why, but the chair setup reminds me of the Piper Perri meme

  • @minge9
    @minge9 Před 2 lety +5

    50:32 Jared is right. When I was first diagnosed with a partial torn acl, first thing they said was I have weak glutes like lol bro, I can probably hip thrusts 3 times your bodyweight

  • @OG_VeniVidiVici
    @OG_VeniVidiVici Před 2 lety

    I almost didn't watch this because Dr. Mike made this very clear to me already, if you feel it in the muscle that is supposed to be targeted, it's probably hitting the muscle. lol

  • @buhazeem.alsuwaidi
    @buhazeem.alsuwaidi Před rokem

    When I first opened the video I seriously thought Dr. mike was sitting far back in the room.

  • @roger012194
    @roger012194 Před 2 lety +1

    Damn I was just watching a video about your argument with Paul carter about lats. Tread lightly mike he might find this video 🤣

  • @RapidBlindfolds
    @RapidBlindfolds Před rokem

    bret is like the teacher and mike and jared are like the disobedient runts 😂

  • @meditation4632
    @meditation4632 Před 2 lety +1

    Jared Feather’s calves need a time stamp all their own!!!!!

  • @LTPottenger
    @LTPottenger Před 2 lety +2

    It takes a big man to let two big guys perspective mog him like that during an interview.

  • @O0o__.
    @O0o__. Před rokem

    since I'm here, what is the latest research in calisthenics?

  • @brguide
    @brguide Před 2 lety +2

    Jarod what is up with your clearing of throat? My mom does this a lot and she has an issue that was a small tumor. I assume you have had this looked at by a dr,

    • @Renejime9288
      @Renejime9288 Před 2 lety +1

      I’ve noticed as of late Jared sounds like shit, I hope he’s doing alright

    • @StarCrusher.
      @StarCrusher. Před 2 lety

      Last video with him he did it too. Might be chronic.

    • @robertauclair2278
      @robertauclair2278 Před 2 lety +1

      He said in the video at the end that he's sick and lost his voice.

  • @henriquenunes3255
    @henriquenunes3255 Před 2 lety +4

    I feel like an overlooked aspect is intention while lifting.
    Both your gym bro pump guy and your typical I combine "strength and hypertrophy" youtuber get this concept mixed up. The pump is indeed important, but the way the term is widely used mixes it up with cardiovascular, high and half rep pump. What I mean is a intentional pump meaning, always bracing /contracting the target muscle before getting into the concentric, focusing on using only the target muscle while exerting force and also trying to resist mainly with the target muscle during the eccentric (example: letting your hands and arms relaxed during a lat pulldown and start by contracting your lats to pull against resistance at the top of the eccentric, and then slowly bringing your arms down while feeling the lats flexing as the arms come down but only using your hands and arms as hooks that are relaxed).
    This can also be applied to compounds not only to isolation exercises, but you will probably need to decrease the weight, but if your goal is size it will definitely help . In some exercises it is also wise to leave out the bottom and top part of the ROM to keep TUT higher (no half reps though!!), but sometimes it feels more natural to get in to the stretch so it is always important to brace before the concentric.
    On the other side you have the "I combine strength and size youtuber" that claims that if you are natty, you must train like a powerlifter and not a bodybuilder but this is not true. Sure strength will give you better chances of progressively overload, but why not trying to increase strength while perserving technique and intention standards instead of moving the weight from point A to B and blindly trust that biomeachanics will somehow handle bracing and muscular engagement? If you use a certain tempo and explosiveness to move a higher weight , you simply are compensating and using more muscles, making them "parasites" to the growth of the muscle you want to target. Plus, a higher tempo also kinda implies stretch reflex and momentum and those are also tension killers.
    You can compensate by maybe reaching a weight where you cant do anything but engage all your muscles maximally, but the risk to award and stimulus to fatigue ratio are shitty AF.
    That is why a lot of these youtubers "come back to bodybuilding" to fix "weaknesses".
    Often in strength training, you only amp up what is already strong, because the body tends to bias what is most capable so it performs better.
    Bodybuilding is a more "subtle, isolated interaction with your muscles as units so they perform better as a whole". I hear a lot of people tossing out lateral raises because their traps get too involved. How about reducing the weight and bracing your delts before bringing them up (using the hands and rest of the arms as hooks that are relaxed)?

    • @rockyevans1584
      @rockyevans1584 Před 2 lety

      I feel like you've binged a few vids on yt and are now offering unsolicited advice that wasn't asked for. Take an English class at least, then the weakly related topics you group together here will be given in a more coherent manner. Anyone who watches this channel is probably more familiar than you with the concepts you mention

    • @matthewclomo5265
      @matthewclomo5265 Před 2 lety +3

      @@rockyevans1584 it’s decent enough English and he is just offering advice by posting it in the comments. Might help someone.

    • @rockyevans1584
      @rockyevans1584 Před 2 lety

      @@matthewclomo5265 it's not decent and is so far from concise that it will help* no one. Clarity is a key part of communication, I understand everything he was shooting for but this is a horrible way to try to spread the message. Won't help anyone imo

    • @henriquenunes3255
      @henriquenunes3255 Před 2 lety

      @@rockyevans1584 i am not a native but I would say that it is concise enough. It is just a longer comment and I freestyled a bit, but I would say that it is not as bad as you describe it.
      I am talking about something that I consider to be overlooked by my own experience, so the attempt to describe it will of course be a bit meh.
      Is there comment advice that is asked for?? As far as I know people only ask for videos .
      I didnt get my information from binging videos, but through my own training experience (15 years). I just had thought about this topic and RP just posted this video so I thought I could share my "unsolicited" thoughts. Plus if you get the gist, it probably was concise ;).

    • @henriquenunes3255
      @henriquenunes3255 Před 2 lety

      @@matthewclomo5265 thanks man appreciated!!

  • @wildthang9355
    @wildthang9355 Před 3 měsíci

    This is an interesting find. Especially considering what we now know about Bret. Also, the many shady thumbnails cancelling Hip Thrusts since this video…

  • @roninkoans6065
    @roninkoans6065 Před 10 měsíci

    lol every time dr mike would make a joke the big dude was just like "yeah thats cute, im doing a science here."

  • @Pajitsu3
    @Pajitsu3 Před 2 lety

    I believe the term they were looking for at minute 37:45 was when researchers “Fudge Results”

  • @Fuckingboredrn
    @Fuckingboredrn Před 2 lety +1

    MORE SHIT LIKE THIS!!!!