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  • čas přidán 17. 01. 2024
  • In this video I share my experience owning a Grand Seiko Spring Drive SBGA373 for 5 years. Some incredible highs and some gut wrenching lows. Is it worth it?
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Komentáře • 257

  • @mikes.4136
    @mikes.4136 Před 7 měsíci +35

    I can relate to that sinking feeling of not wanting to wear a damaged watch. I’m glad you got it serviced and repaired. The Grand Seiko is so elegant and, in my opinion, there is no movement comparable to Spring Drive. It’s a beautiful piece. Thank you for your review.

    • @matyasd007
      @matyasd007 Před 6 měsíci +1

      A scratch on a watch is not "damage".

    • @turboZ3
      @turboZ3 Před 6 měsíci +1

      @@matyasd007 yes it's called cosmetic damage.. sighh went thru that when i smashed my $3,000 TAG against a concrete step trying to tie my shoes.

  • @bensieber6960
    @bensieber6960 Před 7 měsíci +29

    I bought my SBGV 221 and 243 used (I'm not wealthy) so both came to me with less than perfect finishing. I only own watches that I wear without concern, and I think used GS may be the way to go in this regard. Their cases are still really lovely and special regardless of imperfections. Both watches are 9F quartz, which is what I wanted, and they have out performed advertised specs even after years of use. The SBGV221 has a champagne dial, and I was not prepared for just how incredibly beautiful it is. Every time I look at that watch I pause and have an, "oh my" moment. It really is by far the most beautiful watch I've ever seen. Neither watch is on a GS bracelet; the 243 came without one, and I don't wear the one that came with the 221 for the same headaches you mentioned. Interestingly, I have a pair of Citizen Chronomasters that both have bracelets without micro adjustments, but I was able to get those to fit quite comfortably. Perhaps because they are titanium and lighter? I would say that the Citizen bracelets are superior to the GS as well, in feel and finish.
    Great video. I love my GS watches and wear them quite often, to work and play etc. For me buying used allowed me to treat them as special, but not so special that I can't wear them without worry. Works for me.

    • @zogzog1063
      @zogzog1063 Před 6 měsíci +1

      This is pretty much my experience. Another benefit I discovered of the 9F is that when the battery started running down it ticks every two seconds - this attention to detail is appreciated. The main benefits to me are the fine finishing and the accuracy. How comforting it is to know the TIME of day at a glance.

  • @arisaga822
    @arisaga822 Před 6 měsíci +8

    I’ve had an Omega de ville, and an Aqua Terra (both quartz) for 17 years. In that time I have…changed the batteries now and then. 😂

  • @ChiTownTx
    @ChiTownTx Před 2 měsíci +1

    The best thing I ever overcame as a watch collector was no longer worrying about the scratches. No matter where life takes you, scratches are unavoidable. Since I overcame the whole "scratch worry" I have been able to enjoy my watches more than ever before. For years I have worn Rolex, Omega, Jaeger LeCoultre and the list goes on doing things with them on that would give others a heart attack when it comes to risk of being scratched.
    Scratches can be polished out from time to time if it's that big of a deal to you. However going through life with a watch you enjoy but are to afraid to wear cannot be undone. Time is a limited resource, and I prefer to freely enjoy the pieces I have collected over the years while I still have time left.

  • @Peskarik
    @Peskarik Před 6 měsíci +1

    colleague of mine had 3 rolex watches sent to service in switzerland, one came back, movement was not satisfactorily serviced, sent it back, two came back with deep scratches, one on the back cover, one with a dent in the bezel, both went back. 700 for full service, refurbishing (by hand) and sending back and forth to Japan is "decent", as any other luxury manufacturer would charge the same or more. I had no problem with the tiny screws, but need magnifying glasses and bright light to put them back in without scratching the links. 44GS case is a beauty, but requires attention otherwise those flat mirror surfaces get scratched quickly.

  • @seanpham67
    @seanpham67 Před 6 měsíci +4

    I can feel you about the first scratches and dings on the watch. I bought my Omega Aqua Terra and BlackBay54 last year in May and July and they both acquired some scratches and dings since then. The pain you feel when you notice the first dings and scratches is unimaginable, but I don’t care anymore. You can’t avoid it. They meant to be worn and I want enjoy them without any remorse otherwise I would loose the enjoyment of the hobby. Now every piece is telling their own story. My Omega Aqua Terra comes also without any microadjustment, but I found a good fit even when my wrist is swollen. It took a while to get to that point but it is possible.

  • @gordtulk
    @gordtulk Před 7 měsíci +8

    Have had a snowflake for 18 months now.
    Great watch. Scratches don’t bother me and they seem much less visible than steel watches get.
    Bracelet was a bit fiddly for the first month or so until I settled on a length that worked best. (Pin and collar - not screws - on the snowflake which is less trouble IMO).
    Runs about 2 seconds fast - per month.
    I wear it five days a week and the 72 hour reserve is perfect - haven’t hand wound it for probably a year.
    Extremely comfortable to wear to BTW - the lightness makes it ‘disappear’.
    No regrets.

  • @jamescgarrett6356
    @jamescgarrett6356 Před 6 měsíci +6

    “You don’t wear a Grand Seiko to get noticed…”. Too true! I have three at the moment (probably selling one soon though) and love the fact that they duck under the radar. It always tickles me to think about what I’m wearing and how no one else knows or understands it.
    However, I am actually almost looking forward to my latest acquisition getting marked up. It is an SBGN027 with a fully polished case, and each mark it gets in this case, as it goes through its everyday life of course, fills me with joy. I bought this as a “recovery” watch - I got knocked off my bicycle and run over a few months back, suffering dislocations, broken bones and a minor amputation in the process. My final surgery was just before Christmas and I ordered the watch to be delivered and waiting for me once I was discharged from hospital. I now wear the watch every day. Not all day, sometimes I swap it for another in the evenings, but it gets worn every day. My thinking is that as my body continues to heal and recover, the watch will pick up marks and scuffs to compensate. It’s condition will reverse-mirror my own condition.
    Just my thoughts (and the bracelet fits me just fine, thankfully!)
    Keep up the good work and keep well :-)

  • @Peter-2704
    @Peter-2704 Před 7 měsíci +8

    I remember the video after the 'pub' incident. Heartbreaking 💔

  • @michaelkaliski7651
    @michaelkaliski7651 Před 7 měsíci +12

    You buy a watch and either stick it in a display case or wear it and appreciate how it takes all the knocks of everyday life and carries on working flawlessly. Every dent and scratch forms part of the history of the watch and while it may reduce the cash value, most of the time it doesn’t affect how the watch works. Like a brand new car, once you have got over that first inevitable scratch you can get on with enjoying your purchase and using it for what it was intended.

    • @jamied931
      @jamied931 Před 7 měsíci +3

      Or you can wear it carefully and occasionally and once in a while get it polished. Not everyone wants a banged up watch. Obsessing over every hairline is a bit pointless but theres a reason beaters exist.

  • @SunRise-ul7ko
    @SunRise-ul7ko Před 7 měsíci +3

    I have a collection of seiko Watches. However, there is one Seiko watch that I own & it is basically been working for the last 39 years. It's a 1985 digital sports 100, I've had from new. It has no moving parts, so there is nothing to wear out. The battery is a common 3 V battery you can buy in a supermarket & the battery lasts 12 years, so long as you don't use the screen light. So it's only ever had 3 battery replacements in its life & and a waterproof ring seal in the screw down case back. I use it swimming, no problems.

  • @DevAdminEer
    @DevAdminEer Před 6 měsíci +1

    Love the video! Also, if you didn’t know, 2 half-links equal a full-link and a quarter. I struggled with my SBGA011’s fitment and found this “tip” on YT. Now it fits perfect!

    • @ilikewatches
      @ilikewatches  Před 6 měsíci

      Hi, yes, I posted a dedicated video on exactly this..maybe it was my video you watched?

  • @eurovnik
    @eurovnik Před 6 měsíci +1

    Oh Gary, I love how trusting you are of humanity letting anyone else near your watch, let alone a Grand Seiko in a pub!
    Agreed that lighting in jeweler's stores is completely different from daylight or domestic homes.
    One of the reasons I buy everything online - 14 days returns by law in the UK, can check it out at my leisure at home with no sales person BS and pressure.

  • @jay_watch
    @jay_watch Před 7 měsíci +8

    I absolutely can relate to that pain of getting it damaged again and again...the worst one happened to me when one of those little bracelet screws on my SBGJ203 came somehow loose without me noticing off course. Next moment it fell from my wrist from about 1,20m on the concrete floor 💔...one link had come off due to the screw getting loose😢 now I always check and tighten the screws before putting it on 😬

    • @wayneholmes637
      @wayneholmes637 Před 6 měsíci

      You could just put some of the find thread loctite on them.

  • @adk7962
    @adk7962 Před 7 měsíci +3

    Phenomenal watch, check
    Average bracelet, check
    Safe to wear in public, check
    Not safe to wear to British pub, check.
    Ha! Thanks for the great update!

  • @TheGrandSeikopath
    @TheGrandSeikopath Před 7 měsíci +4

    I wonder why they simply didn't replace the bezel for a new one. Watch was already in the factory and it would make much more sense instead of fixing it.

  • @Spectrecontrol
    @Spectrecontrol Před 7 měsíci +13

    If you lose a small screw like that a magnet (i have a rare earth magnet) really speeds up the retrieval process. I also started working with a large lipped tray so that small things tend to get trapped without making it to floor level.

  • @kobusvanrensburg4092
    @kobusvanrensburg4092 Před 7 měsíci +24

    They are achingly beautiful, but I've tried to avoid anything that requires "being sent away". If it's not SW200/2824/9000/NH powered I just avoid it completely - small minded perhaps, but this has worked for me without fail. The only concession to this are two Omega's (a 50's vintage Seamaster and a 90's Speedy) passed on to me after my dad and grandpa died, but these can at least be serviced locally.

    • @shanephillips8735
      @shanephillips8735 Před 7 měsíci +2

      I'm they same, if I have to spend a big chunk of money on a watch, and then have to keep spending big chunks of money afterwards I'm not interested, and it's not like I can't afford it, I'm just a bit too tight! Would rather have NH, miyota, eta or sellita powering a really well made watch that can be serviced (swapped) easily if ever need be, and I don't get too hung up on whether something is in house.

    • @kresimirpleic
      @kresimirpleic Před 7 měsíci +2

      I absolutely agree. That's also the reason why I don't really want to buy watches with modified movements such as the Powermatic 80 or L888 that is made for Longines. I want good old tried and tested 4R/NH, Miyota 8 and 9 series, ETA 2824 and 2892, and of course SW200 and 300 series movements. That way I know, every watchmaker that I go to will not only know how to service and regulate them, but they will also have available parts in case something needs to be swapped out. If I drop my watch off to a watchmaker for a service, I expect to be able to pick it up in a week or two, instead of waiting for months and paying for shipping, tracking and insurance.

    • @ProjectFleek
      @ProjectFleek Před 6 měsíci +3

      Same. The movement snobs always have horror stories. Having to send something worth a Mercedes through post, and pray not only nothing happens during transit, but also in the hands of the manufacture. I'm perfectly happy with my ETAs and basic Rolex Date.

    • @Murph_82
      @Murph_82 Před 6 měsíci

      Every luxury watch needs servicing!.. what you goin on about?

    • @kobusvanrensburg4092
      @kobusvanrensburg4092 Před 6 měsíci

      @@Murph_82 there is a difference in having it serviced at a local jeweller vs having it sent away to some other place for servicing. Simple.

  • @nintendokings
    @nintendokings Před 7 měsíci +5

    Wish you had video of the guy smacking them together 😅

    • @ilikewatches
      @ilikewatches  Před 7 měsíci +4

      His smug face is engrained in my mind!!!

    • @Unlucky1776
      @Unlucky1776 Před 7 měsíci +1

      ​@@ilikewatchesI probably would've will Smith slapped him

    • @nintendokings
      @nintendokings Před 6 měsíci +2

      @@ilikewatches therapy Gary 🤣

  • @potgieterl
    @potgieterl Před 7 měsíci +3

    It is exactly the same when buying a new car, every ding will keep you up at night. Gary, that is a dress watch treat is as one, funerals, weddings, graduation ceremonies, pictures with your grandchildren, going to see the bank manager to get a second mortgage on the house, interviewing to join a country club. You get it?

    • @ilikewatches
      @ilikewatches  Před 7 měsíci

      I never leave this recording room…does that count

  • @pittss2c601
    @pittss2c601 Před 7 měsíci +1

    Install a band on it. Wear the watch daily with a band made from textile, leather, silicon, rubber, etc. That's what I do with my SBGN019 and love it. I only wear the bracelet on special occasions such as a wedding. I can beat on the band daily.

  • @watchalot919
    @watchalot919 Před 7 měsíci +5

    I own a Tudor and a Rolex, and to be honest the finishing on some of my inexpensive watches is just as good.

  • @normanswift5048
    @normanswift5048 Před 7 měsíci +2

    Spot on review. I had pretty much the same experience with my SBGA373 (except the pub bit!) where the scratches and marks on the case from normal wear literally took the shine off my love for the look of the dial. I look after my watches but scratches would seem to appear out of nowhere on that mirror polishing. I wore mine on a GS alligator strap which solved the bracelet issues but ended up selling it before I needed to send it to Japan for service/refurb. I've now got a non-spring drive SBGM221 which doen't seem to be as injury prone because of the case shape but I do miss that ultra-smooth Spring Drive second hand sweep!

  • @darcy_fm
    @darcy_fm Před 7 měsíci +5

    I have a White Birch and love it, but the lack of micro adjust is frustrating. I saw a company called steel reef market a replacement link that has micro adjust built in which looks promising in solving that issue.

  • @wowlsj
    @wowlsj Před 7 měsíci +1

    Wow, I had almost the same experience in my purchasing decision. I became interested in GS after reading and seeing some reviews (like yours), found a local AD jeweler, and drove over to look at the Cherry Blossom. Among the GS models they had, the 373 grabbed my eye, too, especially because of the intricacies of the GS44 case design. Of all if them the 373 stood head and shoulders, and I found a pristine and under warranty pre-owned. I JUST STARE AT IT, I GAZE AT IT, IT IS THE MOST GORGEOUS WATCH IN MY COLLECTION! I love it more than the "established" brands, that are all great watches, but this one is special. I agree that the bracelet holds it back, so I put it on a dark croc strap, and OMG, it's even better. It almost comes off as a gold watch on the strap. Best watch desugn and decision, ever.

  • @michaelmaguire9330
    @michaelmaguire9330 Před 7 měsíci +2

    It’s an exception watch and simply oozes quality and heritage. The sweep hand is superb. I must admit it would not be my daily watch because I would be concerned about bumps and scratches. Great video Gary.

  • @actnaturally388
    @actnaturally388 Před 7 měsíci +1

    I have two Grand Seiko, one titanium one steel, honestly since I have GS I don’t really wear the Rolex and Omega anymore

  • @dunderhay9169
    @dunderhay9169 Před 7 měsíci +4

    It is still a beautiful watch, and I'm glad you invested the £700 to get it right. I think it would look even better on a nice brown leather strap, and hopefully more comfortable too 👍

  • @dmks2146
    @dmks2146 Před 7 měsíci +5

    It's a stunner of a watch. It's either scratches or sitting in a box and since japanese things have souls I'm sure it appreciates getting used.

    • @dimasakbar7668
      @dimasakbar7668 Před 7 měsíci +1

      now that you mention it, they really need to come up with watch equivalent of kintsugi

  • @rev.waynet.oleary7387
    @rev.waynet.oleary7387 Před 4 měsíci

    At this stage, it's more than a watch. It's a piece of art. It's beautiful. I have a Tudor. And similar issues. My every day all the time watch is actually a cestrian! The Tudor comes out on special occasions, but even then most people have no idea I am wearing a Tudor or a cestrian, because it might be a Casio or a timex to them...

  • @dinospGR
    @dinospGR Před 7 měsíci +2

    Why not changing the bracelet for a leather strap? It would negate most negatives.

  • @bikeman123
    @bikeman123 Před 7 měsíci +4

    How do you insure a watch in the post? Royal Mails special delivery insurance is limited to £2500 and requres an original sales receipt. Completely inadequate for a vintage watch or one youve owned for sometime.

    • @ilikewatches
      @ilikewatches  Před 7 měsíci +3

      Seiko head office is in my town so I drove it there….

  • @ace73pq
    @ace73pq Před 7 měsíci +1

    When I buy a watch I buy it for me, not to impress others... I just bought myself an Oris Aquis Small Second Date, and I'm sure that even next summer when I wear a shirt with short sleeves, no one will notice that I have a $3000 USD watch on my wrist... But me, I will know! Great watch BTW!

  • @Azav312
    @Azav312 Před 6 měsíci +1

    My dentist got his rolex from his dad on graduation day from dental school. It has over 35 years of dings & history. I love looking at it when i get my check-up.

  • @TheGrandSeikopath
    @TheGrandSeikopath Před 7 měsíci +2

    Let's address elephant in the room. Grand Seiko very rarely actually listens to what people want. Let's take that power reserve indicator for instance. It took them an eternity to release a spring drive model without it. When they finally introduced 9R31 caliber where the power reserve indicator is incorporated in the back of the movement, they charged double the price of a regular spring drive. My advise for all the people who want to own a Grand Seiko but don't want to spend big bucks on it, just focus on pre 2017 rebranding watches with double logo (Seiko x Grand Seiko). They are way more affordable (still not cheap) and the dial is better balanced in comparison to single logo Grand Seiko's.

    • @bikeman123
      @bikeman123 Před 7 měsíci +1

      The power reserve indicator is the best part of a GS.

    • @Unlucky1776
      @Unlucky1776 Před 7 měsíci

      I personally like the power Indicator but if you don't like it well...good luck lol

    • @TheGrandSeikopath
      @TheGrandSeikopath Před 7 měsíci

      ​@@Unlucky1776I don't mind it but I know a lot of people who just can't stomach it and it's the only thing stopping them from buying a spring drive.

    • @TheGrandSeikopath
      @TheGrandSeikopath Před 7 měsíci

      ​@@bikeman123it's rather a detail that can make or brake a watch. Depends on the person.

  • @Richie_P
    @Richie_P Před 7 měsíci +1

    That's why the best Grand Seikos are the models with the least zuratzu finishing. Specifically, the ones with the three link bracelet and none of those shiny links. As an added bonus, they're the most affordable.

  • @increiblepelotudo
    @increiblepelotudo Před 6 měsíci

    I got me a very lightly used early 2000s quartz - Grand Seiko SBGF021 with the 8J56. What a gorgeous little thing. Keeps time better than anything I’ve ever owned. And for shits and giggles, Seiko made this basically a diving watch, with 200 meters water resistance. Loved it so much, I got an even better one and gifted it to my younger brother. He said to his wife, “… my brother just got me probably the best watch I’ll ever own…”. Thanks for the video

  • @PabloTBrave
    @PabloTBrave Před 6 měsíci

    I had my first luxury eatch 8 years ago, i got my second last year. I went to one meeting where everyone in the room wore seamasters , speedys and rolex and the like, the speaker said the most impressive watch ive seem today was mine and i bet no on else in the room knows what is it. That made me smile , and annoyed the others lol. It sums me up, i dont buy watches for the attention which many do , i buy them because i like them . i do get people commenting but usually ethusiacs and people that say they like the look but not in the gold digger , mugging, jealousy , negative way .

  • @stevemoreno6241
    @stevemoreno6241 Před 6 měsíci +1

    I wear my GS a little loose, so if my wrist swells a bit throughout the day, it's got the few millimeters to work with. No micro adjustments doesn't bother me at all.

    • @tpersson11
      @tpersson11 Před 6 měsíci

      I does the same with my GS. Works fine and never missed micro adjustment.

  • @HughSheehy
    @HughSheehy Před 7 měsíci +2

    I've had a Longines oposition (quartz) for over 20 years. Trouble free. Massively stylish. Tough as old boots. No-one likes them. Hey ho.

  • @ajcallaway123
    @ajcallaway123 Před 7 měsíci +2

    It's weird isn't it, scratches tell a story, but those aren't the stories you want to remember. I do like my traska for that, the hardness coating helps, downside is I don't get the good scratches for the memories.

  • @shaunmclaughlin5167
    @shaunmclaughlin5167 Před 7 měsíci +1

    The first cut is the deepest for sure :)
    Once my SBGP005 got is first scratched I relaxed. It’s now the only watch I don’t mind scratches on.
    Must admit, that factory fresh finish was rather special while it lasted :)

  • @jeejkee6471
    @jeejkee6471 Před 7 měsíci +2

    I can relate. I like my Tudor but no one notices the watch. I like stealth wearing a nice watch.

  • @spyrit35
    @spyrit35 Před 7 měsíci +3

    I LOVE this story! Lol. Here's the thing... I dont like expensive watches for this very reason (rather, I like, but don't buy them), I'm also not a fan of Rolex, but after hearing this story, I can help applauding Rolex for their very unique marketing decades ago, they sold watches to people so rich that they didn't baby their watches in the slightest. As a result, many 80 year Olds ended up with a watch that had an absolutely unique menagerie of wear, scuffs abd dings... a diary of a life well spent, kids inherited these banged up beauties and remembered their parents (fathers really) for how vibrant they were in life (based on the heavy wear). Kids remember that gouge from a piece of coral while diving in the Bahamas. I think we're missing this when we baby our watches... the way our children connect with it after we're gone and wear it with pride (or successive owners ftm). As opposed to the watch that Daddy petted more than me... I dunno, I think we're missing the point of man-watch bonding and imprinting if we pet it too much and allow it to give us trepidation instead of supporting us on our adventures... just my opinion anyway.

    • @gilbertoflores7397
      @gilbertoflores7397 Před 7 měsíci +3

      Well rolex watches were tool watches, they weren't actually luxury, just incredibly built watches to endure its intended purpose, Gary bought a dressy/sports watch. Something that you wouldn't take out for a dive or doing heavy duty task. So its not a marketing thing, nowadays people do baby rolexes. Probably because they're more concerned about being able to resell it.

    • @threethrushes
      @threethrushes Před 6 měsíci

      I was into watches in the 1990s and Rolex was not a luxury brand. Breguet was the King.
      Any brand which advertises is, de facto, not luxury. It is for hoi polloi.

  • @Matthew-wn8oq
    @Matthew-wn8oq Před 7 měsíci +1

    How.much would a new bezel have cost?

  • @howardtyree4297
    @howardtyree4297 Před 7 měsíci +2

    I have several expensive watches and live in an area where no one cares what’s on your wrist. But I love my time pieces and like you, like to look at “ my lovelies” .’
    I enjoy your videos and taken your recommendations on many occasions.
    Let me go on record to say that I own Tudors , Rolexes, Omegas (got a Speedmaster on its way to me) Orises and others, I love the Pagani PD 1701 and most of their 0mega homages.
    It makes you wonder where the value is in these high end watches.
    Is the movements, the cases, design or marketing?
    I hope someone does a true, courageous and daring discussion of this topic. I’ve seen timid discussions of this question.
    Yup, I’m still a sucker for the high end and enjoy fooling around with the homages.
    Cheers and stay safe.
    In The Mountains of WEst Virginia, USA

  • @Keith-ej1sx
    @Keith-ej1sx Před 6 měsíci

    I had the same experience when I went to the AD, went in to look at snowflake (and the cookie), but decided on the SBGA375, GS44 midnight blue so yummy.

  • @Valvey789
    @Valvey789 Před 7 měsíci +1

    Jewelers often have tiny lights in their ceiling in addition to their main lighting that produce specular highlights, i.e. actual mirror-like reflections of the lights themselves that make the metal surfaces sparkle. I would think watch CZcamsrs might want to exploit this trick to show off the watches they're reviewing.

  • @severnsea
    @severnsea Před 7 měsíci +1

    You've reminded me why I will not spend a small fortune on a watch. I've always stuck to a budget of £500 or so and even then I find it really annoying when I get a bad scratch on a watch. You just can't unsee it. I'm not a collector, but it's THE main reason I will never buy a watch with a polished ring around the glass (bezel?). I'd rather go for one with brushed steel or one with numbers on it (sorry, I've no idea what they're called.
    I have to say though, given your experience with watches I'm quite surprised that you seem to have issues that are easy to fix. Even professional restoration won't entirely get rid of a bad scratch, but as for some of the other issues:
    - A small magnet solves the finding the screw dropped on the carpet problem.
    - I recently bought a little 4-sided polishing stick, basically just a piece of plastic with sanding pads stuck to the side of it and I'm amazed just how good a job it does of getting rid of fine scratches, especially on brushed steel but the finer edge works well on polished steel too. Cost around £3.
    - Various little gadgets are available to help with screws on straps; something to hold the watch in place and a small magnifying glass wouldn't go amiss. You can buy a cheap toolkit for under a tenner, and a roll of protective film which is ideal for covering the watch to avoid scratches if you're removing links or changing straps - also good for storing bracelets and extra links.
    I can't suggest much to get around the problem of the prat in the pub, but I wouldn't make a point of showing mine to anybody, it's just not my thing and nobody cares what watch you're wearing anyway. As you said, nobody would notice what you're wearing anyway and most people wouldn't know one brand from another.

    • @Unlucky1776
      @Unlucky1776 Před 7 měsíci +1

      Watches are supposed to be worn lol

  • @violinmke
    @violinmke Před 6 měsíci +1

    The best Grand Seikos are made by Escapement Time. Less grief with those.

  • @JulioRad954
    @JulioRad954 Před 6 měsíci

    This is why i have a collection of 20 watches, all well below $500 with 2 exceptions. Not afraid to wear any of them and wear them all !

  • @bozartg
    @bozartg Před 7 měsíci +4

    I've had several GS'. They are extremely nice but the non-adjustment of the bracelet is unacceptable. I have a 9S and wear it on a strap. This' shouldn't be something that one has to do to make it comfortable. I find that owning the HAQ models make sense as one doesn't have to service for the life of the watch and anyone can change the battery. I do dislike how they lose value so, if you're going to buy one, I'd suggest used and make sure it has all the papers and boxes unless you know you're going to keep it forever.

    • @pittss2c601
      @pittss2c601 Před 7 měsíci

      I have no problem with the bracelet without micro-adjust on my SBGN019. Not an issue. Or install a band on it. HAQ all day long.

  • @kalashnikov98
    @kalashnikov98 Před 7 měsíci +1

    had to skip the bar story this time, i knew what was coming and i couldnt handle it! hahahah

  • @benchapman6769
    @benchapman6769 Před 7 měsíci

    Yup, mine a 373 too. Made friends with Cape Cod quite quickly. And only wear it when a shirt sleeve or jumper is worn. And put it on a brown leather strap to save the bracelet. And what a watch, fantastic 😊

  • @thomasflynn5366
    @thomasflynn5366 Před 7 měsíci +2

    But was the Guanquin safe? That's the important question here😂😂😂. Seriously though you hit the reasons I won't buy a luxury watch. I'm afraid to wear it.

  • @apparaoapparao
    @apparaoapparao Před 7 měsíci +1

    This video is the best advertisement for Escapement Time I’ve seen.

  • @simonpritchard5705
    @simonpritchard5705 Před 7 měsíci +1

    If micro brands can do quick adjust glide clasps for £200 it's a bit poor the more expensive watches don't have them

  • @AlexanderB.
    @AlexanderB. Před 7 měsíci +2

    Tragically, the bezel of the Guanqin is made of Tungsten carbide, a very strong and basically indestructible material. But mate, I'm still salivating when I remember seeing the GS in real life and having a fiddle with it! 🤤

    • @ilikewatches
      @ilikewatches  Před 7 měsíci +1

      lol…yeah it is fantastic no doubt!

  • @ccooper8785
    @ccooper8785 Před 6 měsíci +1

    Am I the only one who would love to have that movement fitted in a standard Seiko case ? There is something about the angular case that really puts me off and I am not remotely interested in the special polishing.

  • @stealer59
    @stealer59 Před 7 měsíci +1

    A ‘couple of months’ for a service is good in my opinion my Omega AT service took six months.

  • @michaelphillips5263
    @michaelphillips5263 Před 6 měsíci

    Knowledgeable watch enthusiasts all say that you buy a Rolex to impress others, you buy a Grand Seiko to impress yourself. So true. Big GS Fanboy. Just picked up a SLGA023 -- Evo9 blue titanium spring drive diver, 5 days power reserve. Rolex (or anyone else) can't touch it at any price! 🙌

  • @MrLeandroRJ
    @MrLeandroRJ Před 7 měsíci +1

    Where have you tried it?When I was in London last year I tried this one and the snowflake.

  • @vktravellog1242
    @vktravellog1242 Před 7 měsíci +1

    Thats one of the down side with the zaratsu polish is that its a scratch magnet.

  • @staydilatedTV
    @staydilatedTV Před 6 měsíci +1

    i have the seiko baby snowflake - it was such a bitch to size the bracelet, i think i saw two different jewelers multiple times, easily over 5 times - but when i finally got it right, it was the best feeling ever, it's my most cherished watch

  • @cj.6988
    @cj.6988 Před 7 měsíci +1

    I would just get the quartz version of this watch, and avoid anything you have to send away. That said , the 44gs case is all the quartz seems to come in and it's just too dressy for my liking. I prefer the 62gs case, so that stops me buying it. As for the scratches - roll with the punches , wear is going to happen, that's character every scratch tells a story..

  • @konww002
    @konww002 Před 6 měsíci +1

    Your GS is beautiful. Wear it in good health.

  • @kiljaeden7663
    @kiljaeden7663 Před 6 měsíci +1

    Bought myself a SBGA413 Shunbun while in Japan last year - I had originally really wanted the winter but the cherry blossom just looked so damn special.
    Specifically wanted the titanium case for the better scratch resistance. And you can't scratch a bezel if there is no bezel 😄

  • @vipinsuriya007
    @vipinsuriya007 Před 6 měsíci

    Anyone who doesn’t know about the clock on the wall do notice the second hand when it reaches at 12 and then the minute hand moves. It’s a mondaine clock. It has a unique mechanism.

  • @apparaoapparao
    @apparaoapparao Před 7 měsíci +1

    Any watch nice enough that I don’t want scratched stays in the bank (three of these).
    All the rest are worn with carefree joy to work then the gym every day-one of many reasons I prefer affordables.

  • @sobewisdom
    @sobewisdom Před 7 měsíci +2

    Sounds more like a museum piece to be looked at, but not actually used and worn. LOL

  • @Conundrum191
    @Conundrum191 Před 7 měsíci +1

    Not a GS, but aside from the sticker shock the one other thing holding me back from my grail (Speedmaster Pro 3861) is the fact I feel I'll probably almost never wear it vs my affordables given risk of damaging it somehow, or theft.

  • @davidcoronado5512
    @davidcoronado5512 Před 6 měsíci

    If you ever feel like it. You should send your damaged grand seiko to lapinist. His restorations often come out better than the original(much sharper). Note though: his calendar is BOOKED a year ahead!

  • @silentnature977
    @silentnature977 Před 6 měsíci

    If the bracelet does not fit to your wrist, you should order an additional half link from a grand seiko/seiko boutique and you will get the right fit. My gs was better to me after removing a full link and adding one half. So I currently having 3 half links and it fits well. That's all you need.

  • @keving4408
    @keving4408 Před 6 měsíci +2

    Let me get this straight. You handed your GRAND SEIKO to some random drunken idiot in a bar who proceeded to smash it against another watch?! I have no words...

    • @ilikewatches
      @ilikewatches  Před 6 měsíci +1

      Yes I know and don’t worry, I’ve learnt my lesson

  • @RasenRambo23
    @RasenRambo23 Před 6 měsíci +3

    The story overall is that owning a luxury watch just isn't all that.

  • @philspencelayh5464
    @philspencelayh5464 Před 7 měsíci +1

    The second hand is the standout feature for me. If it was mine the thought of selling wouldn't even cross my mind. Service costs could be a lot worse and in my experience manufacturers service intervals are very pessimistic. My dads old Rotary from the 70s has never had a service and still works fine, keeps time a lot better than an nh35 I bought new not so long ago.

  • @jeffreyschreiber8679
    @jeffreyschreiber8679 Před 7 měsíci +1

    Why not just put that beautiful watch on a beautiful, high quality leather strap that is worthy of it? There are amazing people doing incredible custom straps online for really not a lot of money so you could even go custom if you want. Personally, I think that watch would look better on a strap anyway. GS bracelets are always the weakest parts of the watch, as you note. And that way you can wear it whenever your want without worrying about tiny screws and lack of micro adjustment.

  • @twitchyjambo
    @twitchyjambo Před 7 měsíci +2

    Great video Gary 🫣

  • @DennisFutball2396
    @DennisFutball2396 Před 6 měsíci +2

    Zaratsu polishing is the same as any other polishing. That’s why sub $200 watches are always polished. Requires less skill and less experience to polish

    • @ilikewatches
      @ilikewatches  Před 6 měsíci

      Zaratsu polishing is the name given to polishing done with lapping machines and tin plates so it’s very different to the basic polishing techniques used by many watch makers….

  • @Matthew-wn8oq
    @Matthew-wn8oq Před 7 měsíci +1

    Wise has incredible finishing for the money.

  • @ChitownRon
    @ChitownRon Před 7 měsíci +1

    It’s a beautiful watch
    I look at it this way you buy the watch because it makes you feel good and you like the way it looks you don’t buy the watch to make me feel good

  • @greenerick
    @greenerick Před 6 měsíci

    Seiko LX and Grand seiko a quite safe to go in the roughest neighbourhoods about nobody's gonna stab you for it. Great video. Great video

  • @cedarcanoe
    @cedarcanoe Před 7 měsíci +1

    The 41GS case shape is very rewarding. Grammar of design, as it is called

  • @raphymartinez
    @raphymartinez Před 6 měsíci

    That Mondaine clock movement always cracks me up. So cool

  • @rem9011
    @rem9011 Před 6 měsíci +4

    No one cares what watch you wear regardless of it being GS or not... I bought a Rolex OP 41 blue and no one even realised it for months after. Nothing to do with GS tbh.

    • @ilikewatches
      @ilikewatches  Před 6 měsíci +1

      I sat in meetings with someone who wore a GMT master II and he got endless comments….i got none…..😂

    • @rem9011
      @rem9011 Před 6 měsíci +1

      @@ilikewatches Well its not realistic to compare GMT M2 vs a GS ha, totally different class of watches with fundamentally different desirability equation. Also the colours of GMTs make them much more noticeable.
      One is like a grey Lexus sedan and the other is a bright coloured Porsche. The latter will naturally get more looks if you pull up in the parking lot.

  • @java2233
    @java2233 Před 6 měsíci

    This is one of the reasons (scratching the polishing) that has put me off a Grand Seiko, I’ve tried on a few,
    Also the overall thickness of the case on such a refined case,hands and dial is also a negative.
    I tried on the SBGA461 spring drive dive watch recently as it was on a discount, not impressed at all , then they showed me the Evolution SLGA023, blue wave dial and blue bezel. That was stunning but £10,500 and 44mm.

  • @howardmckenna
    @howardmckenna Před 7 měsíci +1

    Scratching your new watch gives the same gut wrenching feeling as the first time you drop your new (latest) motorbike. But it's inevitable so you have to just deal with it
    As for the adjustment *problem* , I always wear watches on a bracelet, and I've never had to readjust as I always wear them a little loose anyway.
    It would appear to me that all your gripes with your GS are "you problems", not necessarily actually faults with the watch itself.

    • @cecaju9516
      @cecaju9516 Před 6 měsíci

      They’re valid gripes. GS should do better on their bracelets and if nobody complains, they will never be motivated to improve them.

  • @gregsmith7821
    @gregsmith7821 Před měsícem

    Stuck an Omega smp in for service last year. £1200 and 5 months later. Wearing a casio today. 😂

  • @paulhenry7
    @paulhenry7 Před 6 měsíci +2

    Why on earth would you give two valuable watches to a drunk in a pub to get their opinion? It makes no sense.

  • @TomasWatchReviews
    @TomasWatchReviews Před 7 měsíci +3

    It would look great on a dark brown leather strap.

  • @YouTube_is_full_of_trolls
    @YouTube_is_full_of_trolls Před 6 měsíci

    Omg I'd absolutely cry for a week with the pub thing 😅

  • @drebarthelotte5712
    @drebarthelotte5712 Před 7 měsíci +2

    Magnetize your screwdrivers.

    • @stevemoon2136
      @stevemoon2136 Před 7 měsíci +1

      I would recommend that for watch making tools, given the potential damage magmatism can cause a movement.

    • @bikeman123
      @bikeman123 Před 7 měsíci +1

      A magnetised screwdriver has very little or no effect on a watches mainspring. Besides it's easy to demagnetize a watch.

    • @drebarthelotte5712
      @drebarthelotte5712 Před 6 měsíci

      @@bikeman123 I got one. Once it happens for the 15 bucks is simple.

  • @shaojie12
    @shaojie12 Před 7 měsíci +4

    I can feel your pain, I had my GS crystal knock straight up against a closing glass door too

  • @rajmehta6210
    @rajmehta6210 Před 6 měsíci

    dropped my grand seiko sgb231 face down onto a wood floor - not a mark on the box crystal!

  • @Andromahlius
    @Andromahlius Před 7 měsíci

    I wear an SBGA025 as a daily watch and I'd buy it again, if only because those are the most comfortable bracelets in the business.

  • @mrkitewine7700
    @mrkitewine7700 Před 7 měsíci +1

    An absolutely beautiful watch, but knowing me, I’d feel more relaxed wearing a tegimented Sinn (a completely different style I admit). I’ve tried on several GSs and I just felt on edge whilst wearing them. I suppose it is something you have to get used to.

  • @user-km1cf1gs8x
    @user-km1cf1gs8x Před 6 měsíci

    Hands down !
    The most beautiful , timeless GS Dial .
    … Till Death do us part 😘

  • @ianforber
    @ianforber Před 6 měsíci +2

    Just remember, it’s not damage it’s patina 😂

  • @phantomphotography7392
    @phantomphotography7392 Před 7 měsíci +1

    I don't understand why Grand Seiko doesn't use Seiko's Diashield hard coating on their watches. The Grand Seiko watches are scratch monsters.

  • @Unlucky1776
    @Unlucky1776 Před 7 měsíci +1

    Thankfully Grand Seiko is fixing their bracelets now 🙏