Pioneer DJ Opus Quad Walk Thru and Review - Love it or Hate it?
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- čas přidán 8. 03. 2023
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Excellent, thought provoking review!! I changed my mind about this after watching and agree with you. Bravo Pioneer!
Thanks for pointing out the booth knob, I was having trouble figuring out where it had moved from the promo photos!
I am the same way. Different is cool. And that system looks fantastic. I can’t wait to hopefully play on it one day
Cleveland and Mojaxx are the best review guys on youtube.
Thnx for the review aved for a standalone first ordered the XDJ but returned and saved some more for the Opus ..
It's a thing of beauty, I'll be picking mine up in 2 weeks & I cannot wait.
How do you like it so far?
Thanks for the review. It’s really professional looking. Those huge square pad buttons on other controllers are ridiculous. Pioneer did a great job on the look.
I've DJed in several high end restaurants throughout Florida and definitely can see these boys being installed in more lounge/formal environments.
Don’t speak for the world. There are plenty of bars and lounges that have in house systems. Not all, but enough.
Nope. Thing can't read Rekordbox databases, so it's not suitable for installation. It's clearly meant for DJs who strictly do high-end events, especially formal ones.
@Terry Jackson It's not a controller, it's an all-in-one. But it is not appropriate as install gear.
@@terryjackson1 weird...here in Melbourne Australia, pretty much every club/Bar have CDJs, SL1200's (minus the needles), DJ mixers (BYO Mic) etc already installed....it must be a U.S thing
@@Reticuli not going to be surprised if pioneer will eventually move towards the new database. Hard to imagine they put in the work into creating a brand new database design just for the opus. Ideally pioneer would add a db copy & conversion function directly to the device (still would be an issue if you don't have enough on-hand storage for that). Figure I'll probably pick one of these up and rock both databases on my drives for all occasions since rekordbox makes that easy to manage.
Very thorough review. Thank you CT
Thank you for watching
The ability to show cover art or import a custom logo that actually spins around like a vinyl label on the jog LCD would be sick
I like it good direction for Pioneer. Well suited for more upscale events.And Fully Equipped I just wish I could afford it. Thanks CT. DJ Kraig Compton CA
I just took possession of an Opus Quad - what an incredible piece of kit! WOW
I did feel the exact same way about the jogwheel when I watched all these reviews. I felt they should’ve allowed an image and I also felt there should’ve been an option to fill the same area with the color of the outer ring so there was a nice big ring of color.
I like the design and leap forward that was taken to stand out from the norm. However, as CT has said many times, it's impossible to have the perfect gear for everyone! My opinion is the MagVel fader should be on this unit at this price point. Also, not being compatible for streaming services at the time of launch is an issue for me. My last concern is about the Serato implementation set for Summer 2023. It doesn't really have a "pad mode" to midi map stems, or does it? Are the Hot Cue tabs multi-functional? Outside of those things, I think this unit is a breath of fresh air and concept! Great review, CT!
that was my first thought.. I would have this as an in house setup so its easy for djs to just come in with a HD, memory stick or laptop, and just plug in and get busy.. but we all can use it, be it from a turntable background or strictly controller background
It a beautiful piece of gear and at first I didn't like the look but yea it s cool and as usual a solid review .
Thanks for your thoughtful consideration.
Having a CDJ 3000 at home, I like the fact that Pioneer implemented the same 8 cues/loops buttons below the screens. I also have a SC6000M and I do like the 8 buttons in a single row, that mix cues and loops, instead of changing the row, like on the Denon (and controllers in general). I use my Rane One for weddings and private events, as well as my S11, turntables and Phase. Let see this summer, when they implement Serato into this Opus Quad…
Is there a huge difference between the sc6000 and cdj3000? Was thinking about buying the 6000’s because they are much cheaper.
So how bad was it?
So....I have been dreaming of this unit since denon prime 4 came out. In fact I almost left pioneer for that unit. However I can't see myself leaving pioneer after now owning several units. My fav now is my 1000 perfect size nice amount of effects and the layout and platters are wonderful. This unit as mesmerizing as it is to me is just so big. I think I will let it marinate for several months. See what improvements they add to it. Plus that price point yikes!
I agree with you Terry about the jogs. They are to plain.... it's a sweet rig but that kinda throws me off. I'm like you a old school DJ and I've spent alot of money thru the years on the best of the best and now I'm about practical use .. and is the tool gonna make me better? I am still using my DDJSZ2 and I can get whatever I want when I upgrade. I wish they would quit teasing us and give us the best of the best which would be this device, with the platters from the Rev7, that I also could plug my Serato into and utilize all of my library I've been building for years and all of the effects that are software based. I was going to order this but I'm holding off to see what else is coming out. Love your reviews bro!
I don't know man I actually like your analogy with the crocs. I'm in Colorado I got that analogy perfectly. It's cool that you're able to give feedback on different DJ gear giving the pros and cons and your personal opinion without swaying the consumer. Good job on this review.
Thank you
Cool, If I Ever Get Booked To Dj On The Starship Enterprise. Im definitely bringing this.😳
Want one bad but can not justify it for anything other than mostly fun at home. It is dope though.
Bought a Rane 4 yesterday once I came back to reality.
I must say, it’s an interesting design, it’s a different, it’s fresh and it has some great features as well. $3200 is a price I kind of estimated on it due to the way it’s built, I did notice notice no stems were talked about, but in due time it’ll work it’s way in when Serato launches in mid summer for it, loved the review. Thanks CT!!!!
It’s 3200!!!! Not in a trillion years
@@doctordark3527 lol yeah quite a bit to fork out.
I need the stemz to drop my gemz over hymns 😅😂😊
Cleveland you are a star 🌟 my man!!
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Awesome review, CT 👏🏿 . The design is beginning to grow on me. I think it looks like it should be placed in someone's high-end home audio system, studio, or upscale venue. I'd be scared I'd scratch it up at an average gig 🤣.
I agree with you Engine os need to make change over to Stanalone to a laptop easy that's why I sold my prime 4 couldn't use it with other DJs
great review. haha - yes, it's like with cars. i'd say it's the tesla of the pioneer equipment (there are lovers and haters of reduced interior design and manual buttons into software features).
I personally love the reduced and clean design (except the beige sides). Also wondering, why the pioneer branding is almost missing, at least not very present?!
Since I am using memory cues a lot - I am curious how jumping around memory cues with the need of holding the "shift" button feels? Do you think, it messes with the muscle memory when switching between standard pioneer club gear and the opus quad?
Great review CT. I’ve seen most of the videos (who hasn’t), but your’s, for me, has been the most real world review. I agree with all what you have said. As a mobile DJ it’s a bit too big (for such an expensive and techy unit), to lug around regularly . Between my XDJ XZ, Prime 4 and mixstream pro (not to mention all the other equipment I have), there is no corner left in my house, much less justification, to get this. However, I found myself looking at the 0% finance option at a local store and thought ‘I could do this (and the missus wouldn’t notice!’😳). Keep up the great work.
Can always trust my boy terry to tell it like it is
Great review however I think you might be mistaken in your comment in the end about Denon's library management. The Prime 4 can take an exported Serato USB easily. Infact you couldve put a recordbox USB (your old USB) and it would've read it (and should have the cue points), unlike the Opus made by Pioneer. (Note the new database might not be supported yet on Denon but the old ones were)
I’m talking about hid computer mode not usb.
Well said!
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I love the design. Its clean and sophisticated
great review...
Great Review CT! What do you think of the removal of the performance pads and placement of the hot cues at the top?
Cdjs in controller form. A lot of people were asking for this
Hi Terry, no slip mode in a 3000 euros gear (Only SLIP REV or SLIP Roll fx, but no slip mode...)
I can't unsee the Atari 2600 every-time I see this.
Damned you.
I get why they have 3 screens.Its to simulate look it's like a cdj but just connected to a mixer.That perception could have been partly why on the design choice.
Being an all in one Is this deck good for scratching? I did see one video where the jog wheel said it takes some getting use too but is still different from vinyl obviously
Good review, to each his/her own.
I’m thinking about making it my first pioneer controller but I’m also asking my self would it be working with serato stems?
is it possible to type for example German letters (like Ö, U, À) or Cyrillic letters (6,r,ф) in the search field? This would be mandatory for international weddings.
Thank you so much.
Will there ever be a four channel motorized platter controller from Pioneer DJ is all I want to know Please
Sorry if I didn't read the comments (way to many as of now)
What happens with your usb stick when you go back to a cdj or xz, rx3 and the like?
Are we being forced to use RB6 (prefer the RB5.8)?
Is it the obligatory future?
It's a research knowledge question....
I use CDJ 3000/A9, XDJ700/Omnitronic (Rotary), and the secret weapon, THE MIGHTY PRIME GO!!!
I love the unit,o haven't replaced my XDJ-XZ I think i wild rather get two extra a CDJs and work my way up to a proper setup. I'm not a fan of the design but it's still great unit.
great vid, but here in Melbourne Australia (Downunder) the asking price for an Opus is over $7,000+ AUD....so its a NO from me.
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This AIO unit is cool but i really hope the lack of tactile buttons doesn’t become a trend any time too soon. Coming from a controllerist background, the way i mix is pretty fast and that is 100% due to the fact that i have a physical and separate control for every single thing i need, nothing layered. This is similar to you, CT when you stated previously how you like to have your serato effects on separate buttons above the jogwheels opposed to Pioneer DJ’s style of beat FX strip, its the ballpark where the less i have to check and prep, the faster and smoother i can be. I love a good touch screen but when you start to sweat and get put in humid and dirty environments, a touch screen can become a hassle compared to just buttons or a knob. Thats how i feel though maybe the game will change and we have to adapt one day idk
I don’t want all software buttons. Tactile is necessary but some things should be software based. I think this is a nice balance.
Luckily I feel like they made the correct buttons software. Most of those were buttons I set once and never really change
Have not seen any reviews on using stems for Rekordbox/Serato on this controller, anything to share? Thank you Mr. Terry!!!
Serato build wasn’t ready.
Want to see a video w turntables hooked upch 3 and 4
17:17 how do I find this now. Seems the preferences has changed since then. I just sold my XZ and ordered the quad and I’ve been told the quad won’t read my files the way the XZ did.
Can i output directly on iphone for live streaming ? thx 🙏🏻
i love the design
Man, I spent half my day yesterday trying to get my thumb drive to work with it! However, my Rekordbox doesn't show the library option for the opus quad like yours does...? What version of Rekordbox are you running? I checked for an update and it says i'm up to date? Do i need to be in export or performance mode or does it matter?
You should be in export mode and yes there was an update.
I'm not a big fan of the design but i think its good because it differentiates it from the XDJ/DDJ/FLEX lines.
Unique design, new rekordbox library format, lack of first party case, lack of Pro Link support, it's clear that Pioneer is testing the waters with this and wants it to be its own thing rather than a successor to any existing products.
Good directives to the review Terry, the pioneer looks elegant, however, why are we paying such high price for these products, also why people never talk about the quality of the EQ components which to me is of great importance for the sound and Mic. keep the good work up, blessings. Daddy Frisky
How do you adjust the beat jump??
will this controller work with Serato DJ Pro
How do you like it? I am mixed between the Opus Quad and the Prime 4 Plus, but I have yet to see anyone use a prime 4+ in the real world
Can you plug in a Rmx 1000 to channel 3 or 4
Well done....
Just bought a soft case for the opus quad. It’s a little bigger than a flx 10, not a big deal for portability.
It’s not the size that’s the issue. Hopefully the straps will hold. 😂
@@ClevelandTerry as a mobile guy, I’ve always shunned the bigger controllers but DJing without the computer is refreshing. And it just looks so sexy!
10 gigs later - this machine is dope!
Is this Stems ready for when the Serato compatibility comes this summer?
You’ll have to ask serato. Pioneer dj doesn’t have anything to do with the port.
What's it made out of? Is it painted or rubberised metal? Rubberised plastiic?
future collectors item
You can record your sets on this still right? I’m thinking about getting one today
Yes
It is a dynamic controller, especially when you can find it at a online store for wholesale price ( way less than $ 3,000.00) ...Actually i got 2 controllers for $600.00
This controller is like fashion it will go out in a year.
Hmmm. Stems integration tools completely absent. It's very awesome especially for mobile djs but the rane 4 looks very smart also
Stop with the Stems.
YOU WILL NOT SEE STEMS ON ANY STAND ALONE UNIT FOR YEARS FROM ANYONE.
Do you need device library plus to use this?
Can you apply FX to channels running Bluetooth? And how fragile is it?
I’ll get back to you in that. I would assume so.
No dedicated stem control for serato.
That is why the Rane Four is what I'll be getting.
You shouldn’t be comparing the opus quad to the rane four. Completely different systems.
@@ClevelandTerry
You are rite to be totally honest I was just so disappointed with this release I was really hoping for an Xdj xz 2. The Rane Four will do more with a laptop. Only real difference between the 2 is the standalone capability of the opus quad.
I get that
No performance pads !
Still with my DDJ-800
Are the jog wheels mechanical?
I love the prime 4, this wouldn't make switch, I need the internal hard drive. Now the REV7 I love it thats the machine for pioneer to build on.
You can get the XDJ XZ over here in Germany for 2500,- Euros. If it's connected to Serato, you do have access to four decks, playing with a laptop connected, you also have access to all your Streaming Services like Tidal or Beetport etc. Is the extra 800,- Euros on top for the Opus Quad really worth that extra investment, I think not (RRP Germany 3299,- Euros).The Opus is even bigger than the XDJ XZ.
I think this is targeting the Pro'sumer' market, and boutique bars etc. Prime 4 is $2000 cheaper in my country (Canada) ($2499 vs $4599) while offering a few things that this thing doesn't do (at least at launch). I mean....I'm sure people will buy it still, just confused as to what they are going for here?
But did you see it goes pink? That’s gotta be worth it ;)
@@d3j4v00 lol well damn. I didn’t know this! 😂
@@JeffScroggin Makes sense for sure. A much cheaper option than a pair of CDJ's and a DJM series mixer. I'm sure you'll enjoy the hell out of it :).
Kool piece of gear if you have the money laying around but I think I’ll stick to my XZ. I bang the hell out of my hot cue pads and that alone is a deal breaker for me. Also my XZ tends to glitch every now and then so imagine this system with all its software, that would be a nightmare at a venue. This is perfect for CZcams djs.
If it brings streaming services I’ll ditch the prime 4. Not until then.
The left-hand side play & cue don't line up to right-hand side play & cue looks off set
Great review... In your opinion would an extremely padded bag be appropriate? I like the design because it's so radically different. I'm old school so the weight is no prob.
Just my unsolicited opinion here, but I would not use a padded bag for a $3000 investment. Since weight isn't an issue, I highly recommend a hard shell case (like a flight case) for this (expensive) controller.
Too heavy for a padded bag imo
@@ClevelandTerry Thank you.. I'm pretty much retired from any serious gigs, but if a family member needs a dj..I would love to show up with this...
I would personally want something more protective than a bag, which will add to the weight. That said, I don't see flight case companies making a case that conform to the shape of this unit. If anything, they will supply foam inserts for it to fit snug. If so, as Mojaxx stated, what would be the point of having the design in a rectangle-shaped case?
The master and booth monitor knobs should be swapped positions.
Agreed
Is the tech in this likely to come to a new version of the DDJ1000? Or is it safe to get the (now quite old) ddj1000.
No performance pads mean this is not for me but makes a lot of sense for up-market bars and events which are either background music or smooth mixing for dancers without EDM /techno clip triggering.
I got the DDJ-1000 a month ago and after seeing this I'm glad I did, for the reason you mentioned. With a dedicated laptop for Rekordbox DJ, the DDJ-1000 does more than any standalone for less and is more compact. Unless you need high quality line input or a standalone the DDJ-1000 is totally solid and I'm not really sure what they'd change on an MK2 except maybe the beat loop knob, but CDJs don't have that either.
@@JeffScroggin That sounds about right. Stems are cool but not that important for me.
Great controller something different always better. Difference is what makes the world go round
Cleveland my frend just brought a master sounds Radius 4 Mixer but wants to use it with Turntables & Serato DJ pro. Would he need one of those out board DVS box's to make that work?
Yes.
@@ClevelandTerry I took alook & it seems non of them work with Serato 3.0 & more updated Mac OS's. Surealy a gap in the market?
They seem mostly discontinued also
You are correct with 3.0. You need legacy. Denon ds1 was the last one that worked with serato
@@ClevelandTerry Thanks man. My dude will have to buy some more records then:)
Does it have stems ?.?.
I think they should have kept the pads and the 2 USBs
Does it come with the record box package for free?Or I need a subscription.
It unlocks the rekordbox performance mode as I know.
Free99
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And what do you love or hate, Opus vs Rane 4?
Completely different products. Not a comparison.
Please let me know how it sounds compare to the xz.
It sounds amazing. Best sound I’ve heard. V10esque
small venue or a bar - perfect - multiple djs either on sticks or laptop can play --- i like it ...
Assuming they like using that hardware. No chance.
Isn’t assuming they won’t like it the same thing? 😂
@@ClevelandTerry even you know…Artist (individuality and cohesiveness with their own set design is gospel and nature ) are VERY particular
I’m not doubting they have specific riders and if they don’t know a product they are less likely to use it but people also like messing with new stuff. We’ll see what happens
@@ClevelandTerry exactly. Hence asking to do a product review in exchange for getting to play around with it for two weeks. Have yet to see Denons in the club too. It’s just the way it is. Don’t give false hope.
Wonders what the coffin case will look like
Probably like 1995
Think that's pioneer's answer to Denon prime 4. And thus Engine's weakness; dead space between switching is exposed..
You dont talk about the most important. Tone. Sound. Quality Sound. Is this a real machine for a great stage? Is this a professional equipament? Or just for small clubs and home user?
There’s an entire other video on it but the simple fact is it is just as good as the original prime 4 which I also reviewed.
I hope Pioneer improved the durability with their powder coating/paint. Would be a shame to see something that is meant to look more elegant end up looking awful around the faders.
I like it. It's the Pioneer Prime Four with a more upscale look. It would be perfect for an upscale wedding or event but not the clubs. If memory serves, I have never seen a standalone or a controller set up at the club/ event (unless the DJ bought it themselves), it's always the cdjs, which I prefer. Two cdj 3k the pioneer v10 and a DJS 1000. Does all I need.
Amazing how much gear is coming out atm, guess the drought is over.
Two cdj 3k the pioneer v10? The price is 9k - if i owned a bar or a small venue i d rather install the opus. for 3k.
I love my ddj 1000 srt
My inner OCD says rectangle. I really can’t do weird shapes
I love the look of this deck. But there are things I hate. They made the screen busier and instead to choose the effects in a usual way just few easy steps I have to focus more on the screen when I need to focus on other things.. And there are two more screens to check.. If I going to buy a new deck it wouldn’t be this one. XDJ XZ possibly
I dig it but the reviews and promo haven't convinced me that it's worth the price they're asking
And that’s ok.
Bro get that rane 4 review out!!
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Just wait to you see the new Denon Prime4M 🤞
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Have you seen it?