Men & Women's Roles in Dating Are Completely Reversed
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00:00 - Intro
01:55 - 18-29 Dating Market
07:01 - The Roles Have Reversed
13:23 - Why Have They Reversed?
16:34 - Marriage = Baptism
19:20 - Men & Women Want Infinite Options
Why do women love movies like Titanic and the Notebook? We can learn a lot about female psychology if we men honestly analyze these female fantasy movies. This could be a great video idea for you Wheat Waffles.
Please share if you have already analysed 🙏
Men don't care to understand us. They just want to understand how they can easily f*ck us in more ways than one.
Because in those movie Chad settles for them
@@TetsuoTakayamaCyberpunk 🎯 💯
50 shades of grey was way more popular than both of those
I met a Moroccan girl recently and she told me, a total stranger, that her favourite hobby is making love. This is a woman I met from a Muslim marriage website.
"No religion or ideology can stop the human urge to seek pleasure"
-Me
f-ism takes precedence, no shame anymore
Brooootalllll, so was she seeking marriage before making love or after??
@@hillsideonly how can making love be a virgin’s favourite hobby?
@@immers2410 I know what you're insinuating, my point is even the ones that love making love put it on the back burner when they're looking for a serious relationship, usually they go back to the "no sex before marriage", rule after they've bring burned enough. So I was asking if she was erecting this boundary or not?
The problem is that it’s almost impossible for a guy to get a woman who is equally on his level, even chads can’t pull their looks match unless the chad also happens to be a millionaire with some internet clout.
Yeah all the chads I know heavily date down cuz all the bad bitches want looks and money
Or moves like Jagger.
At least they are the only ones capable of scoring one night stands with their looks match. The woman ends up fuck zoning them
If the chad was a millionaire with clout, it's still impossible to get and KEEP his looks match. Look at Angelina and Brad Pitt.
The answer always comes back to being the Dad that our mothers' hated. The Dad that got the milk. Play evil games win evil prizes. The biggest black pill is actually befriending Chadlites from country towns who have rooted entire classes/schools of girls. They don't care about anything sacred and sex means nothing to them except pleasure. I recently got in contact with my absent father and he wants me to get out of Australia. He was emotionally abused by my mother and had to leave although my mother will never confess it. My mother is a sickly woman. She needs to be dominant and in control of all of her relationships and my father and my siblings have paid the price emotionally. My little sister doesn't even talk to her anymore and I've come to the conclusion that I don't want to talk to her either. Epitome of an evil groomer she was. I could only see it after leaving home and becoming independent from her. And it was this country that enabled her. I will never forgive her and I will never forgive Australians who enable her and even support her wicked ways by being a part of the problem. Men shouldn't feel like they are at war with the country they were born into but that's exactly how I feel.
I saw this phenomenon when I was younger at the mosque. All the pretty women at 30-35 were divorced from their Chad ex husband and were looking for the "good nice brother" who can marry them and take care of their children.
It was astonishing for me. Even in my teenage years I found that quite amazing how they changed their behavior in 2-5 years in order to find a nice husband.
Do you live in the Middle East or a muslim majority country ?
So even Islam isn't safe from this?
@@gegedu1362 In Switzerland.
@@Admiral_Jezza Women are the Sam's everywhere. You just have to stop their bullshit when you see it. They will use the same technique ( shame tactic, "a real Muslim must marry an old sister", "just be yourself", "take this kind baby moma sister, she need a second chance", etc)
A lot of them only do it for resources and stability. They are never truly interested in the “good nice brother”. As they age the men they like no longer take interest in them and start dating younger women.
There are several reasons for this shift, in my estimation.
- Women are working --> no man needed
- Taking education --> no job/security before 25+
- Prevention is available --> s*x
- Artificial insemination --> no dad needed
- Social media --> expanding the dating market, simping from men, inflation value.
- Porn --> Lack of male motivation to achieve.
- Loss of religion --> Loss of marriage norms
- A gradual shift of societal norms --> Hedonism
- Environmentalists --> Dont want kids.
- Wokenes --> LGBTQQIP2SA+
These factors play a more significant part, in my estimation.
I'm afraid I have to disagree that men allow it, this
reason to simplistic, even if it has some merit to it.
Can you make your videos more appropriate for my female friends? I think most of them would get offended by many of your videoes, unfortunately, :/
No one wants to hear that they have "gone crazy," and what does it really mean? Is everyone with a partner count of 5-30+ not date-worthy? =)
I believe it's based on a statistic that 5+ partners mean pair bonding chance 10% and less and her ideal becomes the amalgamation of best traits of those 5 partners (good luck competing with that image). In other words, loyalty becomes an unrealistic expectation if she is 5+ count.
In my anecdotal experience though, already 1 count can be too much if that partner was Chad, as she'll keep comparing you to him and her tingles call when that person or similar one gives her any attention.
I am Chad
I'm only joking, but i belive important to believe, and to be high quality.
I believe that one needs to evaluate the quality of the lady based of her character as a person, judging her values and actions.
Partner count can contribute negatively, but it really don't have to, in my estimation.
I also believe it's not productive to define a girls quality solely on her partner count.
Stop blaming porn. Men use porn because they can’t access women. We can’t continue this cat and mouse chasing game forever. It’s a waste of time that you can use for other productive things. With porn, you get what you want and fast and can do other things. Yes it affects your female interaction but who cares
@@vebjrnthunes9199 True story. If you were a Chad you wouldn't touch a CZcams comment section with a typical Chad head number two.
One part is desparation from men, the other part is that social promiscuity rules have been broken down. I firmly believe that the gradual cancellation of 'slut-shaming' played a big role in this behavior; older generations (including moms, grandmoms) preached against promiscuity, nowdays it's fine. In the future things will be worse, since you'd have OF moms raising daughters.
the current generation of 304's were raised by mom's who were 304's, slept around, had kids at 16, etc...
@@josealexi5141 Men are giving it up too easily, no self worth. A woman can point at any man she wants and she can get him. Women just want to have fun, before they have (Chads) children, can’t blame them.
LoL
and doing OF with their daughters
Nah bro women back then we’re getting down on the low
Also, an average/beta dude isn't guarteened to even get married to a avg/decent looking woman at 30. The women aren't settling for what they don't want.
Fax
Holyf why are yall so desperate for marriage, jeeez yall are men ? Wtf .
Facts
Correct. Men can only marry the women that they can get. Not the women that they actually want.
Precisely!
Bang on point again Wheat. It's hard to have an organic relationship with this level of awareness. Imagine you meet that perfect girl, she has everything, she's kind, loyal, innocent, and 8/10 looks but she doesn't know it. You immediately decide to fully commit because this is the woman you've been waiting for your whole life, your soulmate. You spend years investing into the relationship, planning out the rest of your life with this woman. Then, at any point, she hooks up with a guy she met on an app at a moment's notice. That whole experience was a lot of wasted time and effort, probably the greatest single waste of time in your entire life. What does society tell you is the solution? Just try again, you're only 32 😂😂😂
Sad but true.
That's why it's primordial to assess the level of lust/polygamy and any sign of dependency on Chad's attention.
But yeah, easily 90% of western women are just plain undatable long term whatever their level of attraction.
@@tarekrahou6529 *90% women.
There's a blatant fault in your plan. No one is innocent.
@@tarekrahou6529 Yes, we do like their lust. We encourage it. Repeat customers.
One thing, that does not get discussed, is the role of medicine in these figures. I'm not talking about egg freezing, IVF, or anything like that. I'm talking about combat medicine and trauma medicine.
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As the face of warfare changes, so too has combat medicine, and trauma medicine. Look at the dates on the second slide. Notice anything? Like WWI, WWII, Vietnam (for the US), GWOT. Look at the dips and plateaus.
We got so good at making war with other countries, and saving the lives of the soldiers, that we no longer have these fantastic losses to males. Wars usually created "male scarcity". This no longer happens on a great scale. The scarcity made women compete for the love and affection of ANY MALE they could find.
Now, combat has become so sterile, and the medicine is so good at saving lives, we have a equalized market. Enough males for female. Now... females are free to compete for the love and affection, not for just ANY MALE, but a specific class/level of male.
Yeah that could be. Wars of the past few hundred years or so have also been unusually bloody, and surviving one as a man has become somewhat more random and less dependent upon individual physical prowess or cunning, so the wars have also become more dysgenic. Artillery shells, bombs and stray bullets kill Chad just as easily as Melvin, after all.
He left out the most important reason this is happening and why there’s no way it will change anytime soon-
before these roles got reversed, the leverage w0men had to push the guy reluctantly into marriage was her WITHHOLDING 5ex.
Obviously a man is not going to withhold the 5ex that HE primarily wants.
What the man would have to withhold to get marriage from her is the finances and stability that SHE WANTS. And now, thanks to all the artificial financial stability that the state has TAKEN FROM HIM THROUGH TAXES and HANDED TO HER, the man doesn’t have any of the leverage that the w0man used to have over him when she withheld 5ex.
edit: I forgot to add that this lack of leverage he has, due to his value being FORCIBLY EXTRACTED AND GIVEN TO HER FOR FREE, is compounded by the fact that this THEFT is the entire reason she feels so comfortable in waiting until she’s old and selling him an INFERIOR PRODUCT IN THE FIRST PLACE.
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Well said, only a collapse could correct this. This is unsustainable in the long run.
Excellent!
100%. I think maybe only men should be alllwed to work, it is part of our reproductive right to find a mate.
You're half correct about where the state is getting the money from for all this. Direct taxes cover a portion of it, but the issuance of government debt (treasuries) is where they're getting the rest of it. There aren't enough people buying treasuries to cover a sufficient amount of the yearly deficit though, so usually the central bank or other foreign governments purchase this government debt to offset the rest of the deficit. This proliferation of government debt is the silent tax that the commoners pay through inflation (the debasing of the money).
Right now normies (in the western world) still have some chances in the dating market, provided that they looksmax, nichemax or betabuxmax. However dark times are coming. It will be truly over for normies when polygamy (chad-sharing) will become socially acceptable and sanctioned by law.
lol, that will never happen
Normies are then likely to go after chads for stealing their wife. If the chad doesn't defend himself with a gang, consisting of loyal men, he will die. A dead chad cannot satisfy a woman anymore.
Is this my idea? No just a prediction. War and economic collapse will hasten this process.
That will never happen, why do you think polygamy and pimping are illegal in the first place.
The current Western dating scene has been a curse even for normies since those last 10 years..
@@LeveritableSelecto 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
Honestly I'm just so checked out of the idea of dating. With the rise of hoeflation its pretty clear that its actually just easier and more satisfying to pour time into other goals and hobbies that dont involve women.
This content is really interesting though.
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Same for me as a girl with a Rating 3/10 or maybe 2.5. guys have higher Beauty standards. And are habitual of dating multiple woman and beauty is rampant in my country plus available call girls. I'm also not getting any chance. From the other side of the world Pakistan.
@@mishafarooq7175wow
@@mishafarooq7175 lol what a troll
Facts
I have a vivid memory of Easter 2013. I went to church with a friend of mine at work (I'm not religious at all but agreed as his friend to go with him). There was just this parade of women in their late 20s that all wanted to be baptized and all had the exact same story to the tune of "I lost my touch with our lord and let my lust take over through college and my young adult years. Please cleanse me of my sins." What's crazy was how everyone just bought it up and seemed to think it was perfectly acceptable since they baptized it away.
To be clear, it's fine if women choose to party and sleep around; it's their life. It's the idea that they can dunk themselves in a pool of water at church and expect to be looked at as pure and relieved of their past that really irks me.
No it is not fine. Bad for society and its future.
i doubt most people care about being pure
Baptism is meaningless unless they truly believe in Jesus Christ, and are repentant. It's not a slate clean, its a change in direction in your life. So if they did it for superficial reasons (to be looked at as pure), they may as well have not been baptized, because they were not ready to follow the lord. God forgives all your sins anyways.
"Pick and Mix" Christians as they call themselves.
There's no such thing as "purity" that's just an ethereal concept!
Yeah so when I was 23 i was simpimg for a 5/10, 21yo blonde who literally thought she would be employed as a model. She went with various chads. 15 years later ... Tries to reconnect as if she is still 21. Lol no thanks.
Hilarious😂
Damn, she's down bad
Princesses don't age.
@@AndreyGreenYtube get up youre so down bad
She gotta have balls to try this ..incredible.
Sometimes a woman only does the hookup thing because she hopes to get a top guy’s commitment.
But most of the time he won’t give his commitment because he already gets everything handed to him on a silver platter anyway and/or the woman isn’t on his level.
One thing your poll didn’t account for is whether we’d place said women into the short term dating box, or the long term one. I think there’d be an overwhelming result of short term.
Oh boy, Waffles came back with a Blackpill Vengeance today.
That was BROOOOOOOOOOOTAL! It never began
I thought the single summing-up sentence was going to be: "Men allowed it -- Civilization" -- It's like men have made themselves obsolete -- protection comes from the state, provision comes from the state -- men are basically concubines now -- It's a luxury to be so advanced that women can do this -- ironically it's what countless men have bled for -- to give women the best lives they're able -- the dream came true
This is a drawback of the wellfare state that most ppl probably don't think about. All working men are providers for women and children by paying tax, whether these men are in a relationship or not or have their own children or not. Single moms get the benefits of a provider without needing to provide anything back to the men who are paying them.
We have to go back now or it be too late
@@rudhra5957 Seems like all the stats point to things getting worse AND getting worse faster...bittersweet as at least we'll bottom out wayvsooner than later (i think it will be catastrophicbirth rate decline that turns the tide)...best thing is to just focus on looks (in regards to this dimension of life) ...I guess...that's it
@@Ausgrave yup all we can do is self improvement and prepare for the worst. My prediction is this: In my country india and middle east population boom isn't stopping which will cause more and more Migration to the developed west which will in turn make them angry cause : no jobs, no money, virgin young male doing nothing it's all recipe for disaster. Famines and land disputes. If my prediction is correct god forbid then it's going to be an all out Anarchy. Governments will collapse People will become more desperate.
@@avve9001 Exactly -- I actually think the welfare state is the SINGLE largest tumor in civilization -- it incentivizes all the wrong behaviors -- not only morally, but it ironically spells death for the very civilization it's implemented in by creating a 'dependent class'. God, it's hard to believe we have a welfare state AND no-fault divorce AND easy access to abortions -- it'd be hilarious if it weren't so horrific.
Keep up the good work. You cover nice topics.
Sadly even if all men agree to penalise women for doing mistakes and going wild by not marrying them
Women can still hide their past impurities and play the innocent angel
Based waffles coming in hot with the bangers
Wait a sec I thought you were redpilled
@@rudhra5957 I am but wheat is slowly becoming redpill so I like to encourage him
Truuuu
Not only do most women want this to continue, the top 10% of men want that as well. Wheat is 100% right; the reason for all this is that the bottom 90% of men are mostly playing along. The only segment that isn't is represented by a yellow circle in one of Wheat's previous videos.
If more men would stop catching women as Father Time tosses them off the carousel, things might change.
this video is made up of imaginary scenarios though
Facts!!!
Lol, men will f*** literally anything. They have zero self worth.
Facts brother. If guys would all get on self improvement, and try to understand these concepts here, I would stronly suggest that the dating market would change for the better. They wouldn't give women any more free attention on social media for example.
@@Simon83738 Dating market would also improve if women started looking after themselves and not becoming fat whales. Decently attractive women's value has been massively inflated thanks to this.
Given the current low marriage rates (likely the lowest they’ve ever been) are the betas really marrying these women who had them in their back pocket? I’d think that the stats would reflect that. If anything I’d argue that the betas of the world are waking up and having the realization that they do have value and thus being the clean up man isn’t good enough for them anymore. Is the dating market lopsided? For sure. But it most definitely isn’t because of “male desperation”.
For starters, these are men that women don’t even want so how can they hold any power over how the market moves on the front end? THE WOMEN ARE THE CHOOSERS! The back end I can understand for the simps who are willing to be the clean up man as that gives women little incentive to get their act together, but on the front end? No. Which again is a dwindling population. No matter what tho women are going to do what and who they want regardless. Have been for generations. Even more so after they became their own providers.
If there’s anything to blame for the state of the dating market it’s feminism for making women more masculine, women becoming their own providers and social media. The middle one in particular because now men’s utility has been made to be perceived as obsolete. Which is why every time anyone hears a woman talking about being “strong and independent”, 100% out the time she’s talking about being independent of A MAN. So now women believe that they don’t need a man, but WANT a man. It’s that shift from “need” to “want” that is a big part of why the dating market is the way that it is. Wheat’s admission is proof of this “women set the terms”. With that established it’s easy to see why women treat dating the way that they do. Women want men in the same way they want a channel bag or any other material good.
the dating market isnt like "THIS" he just made up stuff this video, women are getting with top 10 percenters over and over before settling??? where he pulled this from???
@@jmghfnrtckljhyijnm no. Women now generally see average men as beneath them and are TRYING to get with the top 10-20% of men and are failing. They’re getting stuck in a perpetual hoe phase trying to lock these men down in the dumbest way possible. By using the only thing that they want from them. Sex. The stats don’t lie.
The part where your wrong is saying that betas have value.valie isn't decided from within
@@sim6818 Yes it is. Specifically personal value is decided from within. Just to be clear, I’m not conflating personal value with dating market value, which I suspect is what you thought I was saying in my previous comment.
I guess a better choice of words would have been that these men having woken up to the game plan that women had for them, are now gaining a sense of self respect and choosing not to go for it anymore.
apparently marriage related firms are already feeling the struggle (don't know if you follow BetterBachelor).
Your channel is so buffed great clarity...definitely a talented producer
Religion solved this problem
Their brains are small and they believe in morals if they are taught since young age
The shift in religious beliefs that the UK has undergone over the past few centuries has been wild
Conservative morality based on scripture! News flash. God was right!
Apparently in almost all animals (that are sexually reproducing) polygamy is the norm. Which is difficult for most males and easy for most females. Even birds.
Some individual couples are monogamous. But it seems like reproductive success is mostly determined by gender. Interesting world.
humans are mostly monogamous compared with other mammals
@@jmghfnrtckljhyijnm Not true.
Humans are differently monogamous meaning they stay monogamous for a short period and then switch unlike all at once.
@@sushilsharma4202 yeah i agree
Chads do have a monopoly, if you’ve never been a close friend of one you probably have no idea.
Chads are somewhat rare, as if you're average to below average, even chads don't want you around them. But yeah from what i've observed tall good looking guys get all the attention from the punani. It wasn't charisma, it wasn't game, it was just natural.
It does not make sens. I mean, these so called top 10% of guys also have to go to work, to spend time with their friends and families... they can't just be dating and dating again and monopolise all the women of the city.
Maybe to 30%, okey.
But top 10%... no way
wheet waffles is glowing up for sure
Yes
Glowie glow in the dark 😂😂😂
The honesty is great thank you
It's all very easy to understand. We all want the best we can possibly get. That's all.
Women only acknowlede the existence of the top 20% of guys and they want the top 10% of them. In reality the ratio is not 20/80 or 10/90, more like 2/98 or 1/99.
Nah, even chicks aren't that deluded 🤷🏻♂️
2/98 and 1/99 is true on dating apps but not in real life
My only advice is to maximize your looks, and when you think your finished, you maximize it even more, never stop. Always take 20 min every morning to groom, really brush your teeth, face wash, moisturise, and you cant stop just becuase you found a women, she will always test you. Also, have a "fuck everything" lifestyle, meaning stop being afraid of interacting with people, taking space, socializing, getting rejected and get outside your home, run the number game in apps, travel and be more egoistic, you cant help everyone.
The Dating Market has changed a great deal since I left it. But one thing stays the same.
Every time you see a hot woman, understand that there is a dude out there that is tired of sleeping with her.
What kind of cope is that? Most relationships are ended by the girl. It’s not the boys who are tired of sleeping with Stacy.
Lmfaooo that's a lie that you guys tell yourselves to make you feel better for not getting with her AND it's an effort to make the attractive woman seem less valuable. You incels are a beacon of hope for what humor is supposed to be.
@@beautyisontheinside let him tell it, guys get tired of wet vagina 😂
@@beautyisontheinside Men don't want to be horny anymore, we just want to be happy. I guarantee someone is tired of her shit.
@@beautyisontheinside lol based
Another consideration is that women were much more likely to be religious and chaste until they were married. Social norms and judgment on promiscuous behaviour was quite influential in that regard.
So young men and women got married and committed to each other in pretty much every sense. There simply is no sexual motivation for commitment as it's not a consideration.
Also society has eased up all the judgement and shame, so therefore women can do whatever they want without being looked down now today.
@@TheHarwoodButcher. feminism 101. Thanks Jews.
@@Michael_the_Drunkardexactly
@@Michael_the_Drunkard What's that got to do with Jews ?
@@Michael_the_Drunkard Not feminism, folks like y'all get boner when talked against feminism.
It's more individualism. In earlier times communes would help keep the morals tight in the society, but as industrial revolution came the need for commune became less.
Like in earlier times if you did something against your parents you were fcuked and won't be able to function regularly for the rest of your life, now it doesn't happen.
Its that you are so selfesteem that you can show yourself uncut Talking AND looking in the Camera, i like your personal improvement
I find it funny how you called out other channels for daily uploads and now you’re doing the same thing. Anyways I like this videos so I’m glad you changed your mind
He said he has the main channel for more informative videos, and this channel for other stuff.
we need God
That's what I keep thinking...
@@Aikunle78 then God bless you, his will is the only path
I read this on the Rational male and it's correct!
In an open market no one can allow or un allow anything. Things just happen in their natiral course. Nothing can an individual man can do that can stop this. Its about how the society is organized. The law, media, etc matter more than individual.
A few thoughts:
- The literal pill was part of what made this possible. But we cant make that invention go away.
- Used to be: man had the job, woman had reproduction, they joined up and had a family. Women entering the workforce, is a bit like if men had romance-robots. It makes the other gender a bit obsolete.
- Unfortunately, when men go along with a bad deal and has kids with a women who has had fun for years, they produce more kids who are more likely to go along with the same. Because the kids have their fathers defeatist genetics. The dating-market works as evolutionary pressure and breeds a certain type of men. While guys who don't accept scraps, will produce far less kids. And their genetics will be marginalized from the human-gene-pool over time. So its a bit of a bad cycle.
- In my scandinavian country maybe 50% of women still just go for long term relationships. Several of my female friends from High-school are still with the guy from when they were 17. So over here at least, its not as bad as it sounds on youtube. But there is a rise in sluts here as well, no doubt.
- To me it seems like many average women also end up alone from the current system, so I think there will probably be some counter-movement where it becomes in style to settle down early again to avoid ending up alone (For women).
Cool comment brother. I am from switzerland, which is similar to scandinavian countries in terms of income and quality of life, and here it's pretty much the same thing; You see a lot of looksmatched couples who want kids eventually, but also a lot of looksmatched couples that don't want kids. But switzerland is kinda on the same trend as american with dating. I don't ever want kids, and would not have kids even if the dating market was better. I imagine myself living a happy single life, with maybe a Long term relationship in the future.
as a 29 year old its really crazy seeing all the girls i was friends with in college who were sleeping around with 8-9s settling with legit 4's
You know it’s over when Junior Canelo is making black pill content.. keep it up ! Guys don’t be a free agent in life, let the black pill guide you 😂
He's Canelo if he never boxed. He'd be making blackpill videos
Well there is a 400lb youtuber in Japan who brags about getting hundreds of ONS in East Asia. Of course he is white.
It's all about having or not; girls in exchange for their physical features want your offer to exceed theirs.
Right? But so do you. You want the girls offer to exceed yours. Everyone does. This is a meaningless comment.
@@nlsdrf1290 Not really. Men's attraction to women is much wider than vice versa
@@sushilsharma4202 you want your girlfriend to be good looking (better looking than you). That is a fact and your response doesnt even make sense
@@nlsdrf1290 That's not even remotely true. A weird generalisation.
You know right guys are into BBWs and other aspects?
@@sushilsharma4202 it is true obviously. Humans want the best looking partner possible
Nice and informative
In the dating market woman act after the move from a man;
So they are always in advantage
Believe me gents, it’s just as savage in your late 30’s. The dating market is flooded with 38+ year old party girls using snap and filters. Remember they are the same girl inside, you can’t change it. She will still want to do all the destructive stuff regardless. It doesn’t die. You need a girl who’s not got this in her nature full stop, trust me.
hard part is being in that middle 80 percent looksmaxxed gym all that just to be constantly working hard to be slightly above sub 5 you would absolutely have to hobby max or find away to attain status paired with exposure not just plain exposure
I like that you do put in original thoughts.
Here's a couple others, from yours truly, to tickle your brain:
- One aspect of morality to lead a good life is to develop one's power, yet to restrain the use of it, so that we may benefit from the virtues we've developed, without abusing it. And that's why society has been regulating men's behavior (physical violence) forever, as well as women's behavior (promiscuity). But modern society has lifted all restraint on women. It even encourages women to use, and therefore abuse, their specific kind of power to the fullest extent. Though it is difficult to compare equivalent consequences in asymetrical relations, the toll inflicted on men by the current situation could be compared to what women would suffer in a world where men were encouraged to use and abuse their physical dominance to satisfy their every wants.
- Morality maps very well to being considerate of the opportunity cost inflicted to others (cf. Stephane Debove, a French researcher of evopsych). The immorality of grape inflicted onto women is linked to the opportunity cost of not being abe to select the father. But then, the lack of relationship inflicted to some men, is an equivalent moral evil to grape, because men get deprived of the opportunity to mate. Thus the prolonged celibacy for men is a psychological suffering equivalent to that of a female grape victim.
- Last for today, though it's actually not fully in-topic: I'd argue that the introverts, more so the introverted men than women, are the most overlooked minority in society. And this should include several kinds of introversion: social awkwardness, social anxiety, autism... because by definition, this group of people are little able to open their mouth to defend their interests. They have less social support networks, therefore more social isolation, less opportunities to network to either advance their career or get the small help in daily life that extraverts get from friends and relatives. The extrovert majority may even wrongfully perceive the lack of communication from introverts as a formy of haughtyness.
Anyways, cheers and thanks for your content.
I don't think not having sex with someone is an equivalent moral evil to grape. The phycological effects of lifelong unintentional celibacy may very well be on an equal level or even worse then grape but no immoral act is being committed by it.
Like don't get me wrong I agree with most of what you said but not having sex with someone is an amoral action not immoral, whilst grape is actively immoral. You are not entitled to sex whilst you are entitled to not being graped so these are not two morally equivalent actions and i think the implication that they are is way off.
@@piggysew797 I never said the very thing that you are criticizing. What I meant is a society-level responsibility to address a widespread moral evil.
Since you seem to agree that a prolonged undesired celibacy can be as devastating as grape, here's the issues to think about:
- how many more men suffer from this than women suffer from that? In 2018, it was 28% of men. It's probably gone up since. Grape, for women? Probably around 5%.
- what has society done to address the issues? Blamed men, decided to indoctrinate male children ("teach your sons" bs within feminist communities), threatened men, put more responsibilities on the shoulders of men, and helped women. And insulted and humiliated men more and more. And supported the social media and dating apps that enforce algorithms making the imbalance ever worse.
Yes, that's it. Marriage for women is baptism. You just nailed it
He's a virgin who doesnt know anything about women 🙄 women now are divorcing after the age of 40 and are either happily single, gettint FWBs or becoming lesbians because their husbands sucked.
We as men need to come together and unanimously say no to being some woman last chance at 30, they chose to ride that ship they should sink with it.
No body counts above 0 simple as
King 🤝
Simply not feasible. Some men want kids and if a 30+ year old woman has decent genetics then those men can still get 2 good kids out of her. Better than dieing alone and childless
Ahaha, women older than 30 are divorcing their husbands because they are not satisfied with the marriage, sex, companionship and are either single, getting a FWB or becoming lesbians. If you want a woman, be a good partner!
A simple solution: don't just step away from desperation and marriage so women can face the consequences, do what a real man does and conquer life and the world !
"I dont know why they're doing it" (dating model looking guys)😂😃😂
That's because in the 50s & early 60s women didn't have as much of a voice + there weren't nearly as shallow back then & way way more modest but they were way to modest & very easy to approach back then even if they were very attractive
In the 50s and 60s women were still only attracted to looks bear in mind. They just werent exposed to beautiful men nearly as much which is why their standards were lower
9:45 This is somewhat true. I think hypergamy TO AN EXTENT has always existed (its in the nature of women)...BUT dating apps, social media, the sexual revolution, and feminism have exacerbated hypergamy. Back in the day women were more humble and they were focused on the top 50-30% of men (still hypergamous, but reasonable) and not the top 10%. Hypergamy has gotten out of control due to modern technology, entitlement, and the sexual revolution (little to no consequences on women for promiscuity). Birth control and baby sacrificing (you know what I'm talking about) allows women and chads to sleep around in a way that no one was ever supposed to. Let me ask...When did birth control come out? 1960s! look at the graph at 10:13 it is in the 1960s that age started to go up. This is the start to the mess we have today which got even worse with social media and dating apps. Today's modern culture has brought out the worst in society.
When you said Jessica I heard the chad's name in my mind.
adonissss
Wheat, great video, but I have some important disagreements. Would you consider doing another live stream Q/A? I'd be happy to drop some cash in your super chat account as well.
Am I one of those rare few guys who actually don't give a fuck about women, dating or sex. I could go my whole life like this and not give a flying fuck. I guess I'm just built different and feel more satisfied with levelling myself up as a human being for my own personal gratification, rather than settling and having kids or just hookups.
I feel a bit disgusted by the idea of sex anyway so I guess that's another reason why i like being a virgin.
You said all this to convince yourself not anyone reading it,if you really didn’t care you wouldn’t have made the comment
You want real romance it's good
Perhaps you have low testosterone poor health and thus you're libido is low
Low t
You can't change society but you can change yourself. Improve yourself, gain confidence and stop simping for women. Some blackpillers call this "cope" but what else should you do? Whine in your moms basement about how unfortunate your life and dating is?
Self improvement and pure faith on nature and god.
"You can't change society" is a nihilist, stoicist cope. Listen up, both nietzsche and aurelius were KUKS and we WILL organize and legalize Sharia Law - the only hope for Europe's rejuvenation!
These guys dont realize that:
1 - coping mechanism is natural. Everybody copes to deal with the sufferings of life.
2- a lot of times theses “theories” are coping strategies. Intelectualization or rationalization is a form of cope. You create a great “truth” with a lot of reasoning to justify your misery and stay where you are because you’re anxious to change.
Its like you said: lets say the black pill is the truth, what you are going to do? Spent your life crying in misery? You HAVE to change your life for better someway…
@@tiagoandraderp I've been saying this forever. These people are themselves miserable, they just wanna pull you down to their level.
Just go mgtow and you'll be fine
Where are these “hot girl summer vacations” and why haven’t I been on one yet? 😮
Iadyboys don't count
Are you hot lmao?
Go to Florida or Mexico during Spring time.
your poll is off. 'accept and date' should say 'marry'. How much would that change men's answers?
I really don't understand why you as a non-chad should care about women who are having fun with chads. As a non-chad it would never cross my mind.
The main reason that roles have changed now is that women have become independent of men. They can work now, have good education and just don't need a men that works for them anymore. And that's very understanding to be honest cause who wants to stay at home all day, doing all the housework while the men is outside and is working? After centuries of patriarchy and male dominance we as men experience disadvantages for the first time in centuries. And don't get me wrong, I am not saying that's a good thing, its really not, it's fucked up and it really shouldn't be cause no one, neither men or women should live at a disadvantage. I hope it will get better someday but I think it will take a lot of time until there will be some changes.
Well put - in fact, it is men young men who need assistance such as specific research and intervention now in schools, in jobs and in social integration.
@@woodliceworm4565 Exactly, that change in roles not only happens in dating. I am pretty sure thats also a reason why many Influencers such as Andrew Tate are blowing up right now
@@Flying_Niklas "muh housewife role is oppressive". Ok, prepare for mass depopulation by low birthrates, then.
Bruahhh!!!
Yeah but it wasn't a patriarchy, it was fairly even. The main difference was that women's starting point was neutral in the sense that technically they didn't have to accomplish or do much of anything. Due to their biology they had a default advantage. Men on the other hand had to work and put in effort simply to rise up to the same default, the difference is that men had the ability to continue increasing their value whereas women were eternally stuck. Therefor the top men who achieved most of the power were able to control and dominate everyone, even most of the men.
This is not a patriarchy, a patriarchy means that men are inherently advantaged (which should include all men), this is and was simply false. If a man and a woman chooses to do nothing then the woman has the privilege.
Nothing but facts
I don't think people really care about body count, less would be ideal, but if you're more, it doesn't really affect that much at least for me. I have like 25-30 body count, lost virginity in 2020, so was alright but very few girls want to keep doing it, most of the time you bang one time and that's it. If it was my choice, I would probably just continue with most of the girls, but only now i got a girl that we bang often. Also for some reason most of the girls seem like they don't know what they are doing in sex or don't do anything at all, completely passive.
Chad doesn't care about body count, what a shocker😱
Bro they’re just trying to be guys that’s why they don’t come back 💀
how do you explain the decline of mariage age between 1890 and 1955?
It is not just female preference. There is also financial reality. Not a lot of sub-30yr old men are financially ready for marriage. Wages are stagnant and housing is nuts.
Wealthy men have options and are so inundated with women that they do not need a woman to commit. Lots of rich men have 10+ kids spread among multiple women.
I think finances are pushing up the marriage age more than women having a ho3 phase.
Do a video explaining why Oofy doofy law is the truth.
Beta males/simps are responsible for a lot of the issues in the dating market right now.
Don't forget feminism
most of these issues arent real they are just in your head
10:08 Several reasons for this graph include longer life spans, a worse economy when compared to 60 years ago, pressure to "learn hard, work hard, play hard" and the forced division manufactured by corpos thanks to hyper specialization on social platforms and more easily available college loans that are also running people's financial future into the ground. How can anyone afford a future like in the 1950s if greed runs amock like this because people suddenly have the idea that "humans naturally greedy and not so helpful. Every person for themselves"?
Maybe they're not willing to put their own children through this kind of anguish from the last 40 years that doesn't have a sign of getting better any time soon. FWIW I hope those corpos get what that deserve for leaving soyciety in ruins.
Your right - they (the ultra greed and fruit cake religious nutters) won't get justice and never have never will - however climatic events will sort all this out quite soon, unfortunately, its queen takes queen. As for the female dating thing this is also true however only 30% of people use online dating what happens elsewhere is little researched.
you are absolutely right.
it is engineered via abuse of behavioral sciences.
the internet was a tool, before they weaponized it with smartphones and dating apps
how responsible am I for my age old biological reaction called 'dopamine rush'
today, the qualitiy of your life depends on your ability to put time+energy aside for honing your willpower
to withstand all the bs the blast us with 24/7.
but yeah, 'men' are to blame, right?
This absolutely true. Pure gold.
Jessica would have to be a single mum if Oliver ever had a chance with her.
What about older woman to older men. Like 50 + age men dating 40 to 50+ age women. Do 50+ women who are single go for the top 10% only also?
a man create his value
a women keeps it
If this is true pls explain why Millie Bobby Brown is getting engaged for a man who is 1 year older than her, it's her age match, thus disproving Rollo Tomassi theory of older man getting better womyn.
Older men get better woman? This Rollo tomassi guy is such a coper
Millie Bobby Brown is an average becky at best. No theory was disproven.
@@nlsdrf1290 older men=/=old men
@@Michael_the_Drunkard JFL at you saying Millie Brown is BECKY, SHE'S HIGHLY VALUABLE RIGHT NOW, she's top 1% in the USA, she can't be a becky bro..
@@Michael_the_Drunkard Roolo Tomassi is seething right now.
Isn't marriages going down in numbers though 🤔
Winner takes all.
The best thing I can think off is sharia and I mean afghan style not the Dubai kind
You mean bacha bazi? Chai boys?
The reason is because they can financially afford to be Chad's side-chic and prefer it. If they bagged a monogamous Chad while young they'd hold onto him -- but most women are frequently dumped. Once they age and their shine wears off their chance of bagging any man (Chad or otherwise) is dramatically reduced. Therefore, at around 30, they get desperate, knowing their beauty is expiring and also knowing that their reproductive years are expiring fast.
The problem I see is that women have an income. Their needs are satisfied and don't need men. They have the attitude of "not being in a hurry" to hitch up and have the luxury to compete against each other for the top 40%. They spend their idle time pandering men. Further more, it's the full age spectrum and not just younger.
So you think we should stop Women from working ?
dont think its exclusive to only women
This is the dumbest shit. You want to tank the economy just so men can betabux unemployed women? This would not solve incel crisis. It would just mean women look for a betabux earlier because they need to.
@@okinussecadrom6721 Have any better ideas?
top 40%?More like top 10%
Thats just not true. Most woman want a monogamous relationship, most woman don't enjoy having casual sex. Most woman don't pick men based on their looks alone
You're right, but unfortunately those pure women are very rare to find in this generation. And sadly the pure women are already married, and we guys are now left with the leftover women.
@@TheHarwoodButcher. no, I am talking about data, not an ideal, a majority of woman.
Have a look at Waffles vs NotSoErudite debate
1:45 I think it has to do with the popularization of pornography (which is imo one of if not the main factor that creates simps) firstly in the late 60s with the magazines like playboy and then even more in the 80s thanks to VHS and the 90s when the internet further exarcebated its popularity. The graph on 10:08 also correlates with this. Would be interesting to see your video on this topic.
lol dvds where inventend in the early 2000"s i was well alive there and saw how everyone was getting their first dvd player :D but with vhs ur right that was the 90"s
@@user-jk6kw9ww2s Yes i meant VHS. Thanks for correction
I would disagree. I believe that porn is the effect, not the cause. Since average guys have less options than average girls, pornography is a coping mechanism.
@@jasonmartinez7667 This is it. Pornography is simply the product of a society where men can't get laid. I stopped watching porn a long time ago and it is crazy how I always come back to self-improvement, even after a big failure.
I'm not sure I agree with this, as a guy I've said for years that I've wanted to stay single until I'm 30 and have fun (I.e. sleep around) in the interim, it works both ways...
Must be Chad then.
bro, these memes in your vids are funny😂, but definitely speaking facts
Wheat course is coming soon.
alex from pwf says that only 10% of girls go to clubs xDDDDDDDDDDD
Your face is well intense bruh
I am pretty bp and generally agree with most of your content. However you are totally wrong in this video. Most girls don't go and have fun in the 20s until they reach 30s and then settle. This is the simplistic view and not accurate at all. In my experience, most girls prefer long relationships, or at least meaningful relationships. The difference with past decades is that now their standard are so high that they prefer to hold for months or even years until they find a giga Chad with the rest of the checkboxes they want.
Most women before 35 will have about 6 relationships of 18 months to 2 years each with some additional fun times in between relationships from the women i know.
Ahahahah
Step away from the desperation of getting a gf and marriage guys, focus on conquering life and the world, be a better example of what a man can achieve out of life instead of focusing on useless, invaluable things like dating. Embrace true masculinity and smash through life at all the other angles !
I disagree with the turning point theory. When biology fails, psychology is king. You won't pursue weaker choices, because of ego. Since they had their fun in their teens, 20s, they have no reason to settle later on. Habits do not die easily. Don't get your hopes up, if you couldn't manage girls in their 20s, those in their 30s with even higher standards will only spit in your way, screaming "Ew" . There is NO turning point. Unless, you change your whole life around, of course.
yeah its crazy, since i was 6 i always wanted to be a family man, marry one women and stay with her for life. but guys like me get laughed at by today's thots... does not help i live in the most degenerate feminist city (toronto) I JUST WANT TO ESCAPE AND FIND FELLOW WOMEN WHO BELIEVE IN LOVE. going overseas is the only way
You won't find such women anywhere today except in extremely traditional, religiously or tribally centered societies, but societies like that are not inclined to give their daughters and sisters to strangers/foreigners, to put it very mildly. So going overseas isn't really a solution either, sorry bro.
@@iancavon7125 why do you guys say this are you feds? girls overseas is better than american women anyday. i still get treated nicely. keeping men on the plantation wont work anymore
@@Gothicc_senpai Lol, I'm no fed, and not from your country either, I just tell it like it is. Well, if you know better and your mind is already set, then go and see for yourself. Good luck.
@@iancavon7125 so what is your plan? do you already have a women or just content with a regular girl who will cheat on you?
I think the major explanation for women putting off marriage is not wanting to "Party Time" it up. It is more their desire to be able to support themselves. To develop a career. To be free. There is a wonderful country song "A poor girl wants to marry, a rich girl wants to flirt". Why is that? You seem awfully upset that a woman gets to experience sexual freedom- do you hold men to the same standards? Do you condemn a man with a high body count as well? The only way to restore the old pattern is to reduce the options for economic freedom that modern women enjoy. Before she was under the care of her father, then her husband. I think promiscuity is unbecoming for both genders. Maybe the Middle East is more your style? All those women, out running around, got to get them married up at 22 again, Lord knows maybe Chastity Belts should become in vogue again?
Woman Cope
@@sushilsharma4202😂thats all u can say
Dosent matter if shes a 4??? So even a sub5 lady can be with a 9 man? Maybe Im misinterpreting but that sounds like everyones waiting on chad!
Not true 💀
You can't imagine how many whales I've met that think they deserve Chad and only Chad.
No she can't , even with makeup she can't lmao not even for sex
That’s why a lot of guys now are just having there fun with these girls in the west and when they want to settle down they go look outside of the west and geomax. Which I personally think is the way to go.
I'm British and my gf is from Assam in India and trust me it is way easier to find a traditional, non-promiscuous girl outside the west. Although with globalisation every place is starting to be more influenced by Western culture, so in the future there likely won't even be much difference
But you should not race mix and erase thousands of years of selection and refinement. Also white women are the most attractive by far.
@@Thomas-mx1fh Whoever is most attractive is just down to preference, personally I tend to be more attracted to Asian women but as I said to each their own
@@KILAJINO
Studies have shown that men of all races prefer white women next to their own race.
@@Thomas-mx1fh “Refinement.” Lol. I think you meant to say, “Thousands of years of getting no sunlight in the caves of Northern Europe.”
Only white men are concerned with race mixing because you’re genetically recessive and weak af (biologically speaking).
That shouldn’t matter though. You should spreading your seed as far and wide as possible.
I gotta thank the slave masters for messing around with their slaves because I wouldn’t be here otherwise.
So even though you believe in genetic purity, there’s still many white men who will choose otherwise. Your recessive genes will become obsolete in the future.
White society created 40 million African-Americans. Who on average have 20-30% European blood.
Wheat rated me a 7/10 and I still can't get no girl, maybe cause I'm brown and stand 5'5 🤷🏾♂️🤷🏾♂️
you need to work on game and since your 5,5 you need to nichemaxx to girls shoter than you and dont care about your lack of height, keep looksmaxxing as much as possible if you're a 7/10 your looks can carry you very far
maybe try to leave the house
At 5‘5 you will be rejected by 90% of girls only because of your height. The remaining 10% still have access to guys with 7+ faces since it’s not that uncommon.
Your only option is to play numbers game and get used to being rejected. Good luck
SEAmaxxing requierd.
Geomaxxing
That just applies to more westernised countries, still it's not that bad in the big portion of the Europe, still many guys can find their looks match even if they aren't that tall.
Do they though in Northern Europe (Germanic and Nordic countries)?
@@Locke350, yes I'm North European actually. Well for Germany I don't know it could be like with UK or France, but I've meet couple of German girls who were 18-20 and they were in committed relationships with kinda average looking guys, one of them was quite chubby so to say. Still here there is quite many young coupes who end up living together after school, has children, although it's quite common that they don't get married, for example Estonians are proclaiming that they have most not married couples in the Europe. Also don't forget Easter Europe. Also it depends from the city, places... If you are going to the club's to meet women, of course it will be worse. Also still masculinity is important, many prefers guys with beards.
@@Kunigunda897 From what I’ve seen for Germany’s birth rates is that it’s at 1.58 compared to the UK’s 1.75. Also the average height for German men is 1.80cm (5’11)
Cope
Yeah, I am swiss and went to the Europa-Park recently, which is in germany. A lot of couples go there together, and I saw a lot of looksmatched couples. Germany is definetly better than places like Miami but still very competitive.
It's the chads
Two loving hearts get married. Her heart belongs to her husband. But her body belongs to other men`s.
Well, guys this is what we have caused. If men stepped up and ended women`s rights, then all of this could end. Unfortunately, a class of chads has formed which would oppose any change, since they are the ones benefitting from this system.
Why do you think that Women rights should be ended ?
lol
Wow. Reporting you!!!
Really??!! End women's rights?!...You should have no human rights...to get laid you want to reduce half the population rights??
@@coldblooded568 Why?
You're talking about desperate men begging for a date. Do you really think these men get rejected because of chads in the dating market?
Don't you think they get rejected because they don't understand what women want. Women want adults and the men you talk about act like children.
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I've also seen women make a pat or have an Orbiter male betta type male while they ride the carousel for maybe eight years then the woman is getting towards 30 then she'll get with the Orbiter and marry him still divorce is likely in the future for that man
They'll have an affair after a few years with Chad from the gym
Divorce is not "likely", it's part of the plan. When the woman has to settle for a backup plan and not get the ring from whom she really wants, it's a huge blow to her ego. So she'll find some well-off beta and suck it up for a few years to achieve her own life goals (wedding, kids). But eventually, all of the past trauma and poor choices will come home to roost. Between the bruised ego of her having to settle, her damaged pair-bonding from her "304 Phase" and her nagging need for sexual novelty from the same phase, she will eventually reach a breaking point and one of 3 things will happen:
1) Divorce (and the husband's subsequent loss of assets/family/kids)
2) Infidelity on her part since lack of pair-bonding, need for sexual novelty and endless options/opportunities will make it difficult or impossible for her not to stray (plus she feels no loyalty toward someone she settled for)
3) She will push for an open marriage so she can openly cheat and enjoy the security of a well-off beta plus new zexual partners.
This is why men must not gamble on "reformed" 304s since all of her past behaviors/damage will make her a poor choice for any long-term relationship. Men must understand that not all women are marriage material, especially those who don't respect themselves enough limit their zexual exposure early on. Women who allow themselves to be used by endless Chads in their 20s will in the future become users (of betas) themselves when they reach their 30s for their own selfish goals/desires to be met. She'll never truly love you - you will only ever be a means to an end.
Don't be that man/beta.