The famous Hanafi scholar Imam Sarkhasi (died 483 A.H.) quotes the narration from Abu Dawud (2333, 2334) that; The Muslims did not begin fasting since they did not see the moon. Then a man, from out of Madinah, came and told the Prophet [s] that he had seen it (the moon). The Prophet [s] asked him if he was a Muslim to which the man answered ‘yes’. The Prophet [s] then said: "Allahu-Akbar! one is enough for all Muslims" The Prophet [s] fasted and asked the people to stop eating and start fasting. [Al-Mabsout 3-52]
Yes true.. but on those days people travel by camel or donkey or horse. In a single day he cant pass a long distance... He was sighting inside saudi arabia or parallel time zone country..
@@mohamedraaif1696yeah exactly well said this is common sense! How silly of the original comment did he not think that long distance travel back in those days used to take many days?
Thank you Dr. Zakir Naik. You have explained it well. We should follow the moon sight of our locality. Just like the way no one argue why time if swala(namaz) differ from one place to another, the same way the time if Saum and day to start can't be same.
JazakAllah for the most important issue in the Muslim world finally has been solved thru Islam and Science and in fact this is the very thing i had been waiting for to know since 2001 maybe....! Thank you Dr. Zakir Naik....May Allah bless you always...🌿🌿🌿
You may think so. We may wish so. Now read the comments. Nothing solved The disagreement continues. I am not a student of Dr Naik but in this discussion he makes a very articulate and convincing case for local moonsighting. I happen to find the local moonsighting argument the more convincing one but both points of view raise questions. One factor that affects the discussion is that we have worldwide communication but that in itself is not the deciding factor. It is logical to consider that if we are to follow time zones from far distance then logically, as Doctor Naik explains, that applies to sun times ie the basis of the 24 hour day and in that case we should all commence fasting at the same time. Furthermore the 24 hour day itself is an arbitrary numerical system and for example prayer times are according to natural phenomena which don't depend on clock times. We use those times as aids of convenience. No doubt there are those who disagree and they have brought their fatwas in many comments already posted so need to repeat, I am not here for argumentation. Just one slightly provocative question - in the event that the technology of long distance communication ever failed what would you do? The motions of the universe are governed by Allah. We immediately confound our intellectual capacity when we consider time in relation to motion. Again as Dr Naik alludes to - is it Layla-t-ul Qadr in Malaysia and USA at the "same time" ? Subhana Rabbika Rabbil Izzati amma yasifuun.Allahu Akbar. And Allah know best what we don't know.
SubhanAllah it should be according to local sightings...but its sad in local one country too half follow moonsighting..n half global sighting...this is creating differences between each other n being muslims we r not united. Only Allah swt can guide all n opens everyone's heart. Jazak Allah khair for such clear explanation.🤲🤲🤲💐
Local sighting by definition causes more division because inevitably some areas will see the moon and other areas will not. Then they may argue over who truly saw it or not. Global sighting is by definition united on one day. No debates.
Here’s what some scholars said about every Muslim fasting Ibn Taymiyyah: “…a person who learns about the sighting of the moon in good time to be able to utilise it for fasting, for end-ing his fast, or for sacrifice, he must definitely do so. The texts [of Islam] and the reports about the Salaf point to this. To limit this to a certain distance or coun-try would contradict both the reason and the Islamic law.” [Al-Fatawa, volume 5, page 111]
Yes but would you not apply a bit more logic to this, and say this Hadith is regarding people who are in their locality. E.g. if people in the south of the Uk saw the moon, and then later in the day others in the Uk heard about this, then they should act accordingly and break the fast or do the sacrifice. I really don’t see any logic of this working for someone seeing the moon in California , and then straight away people in Japan need to act upon . I think a bit of logic need to be applied.
@@fulaan1 well obviously that could be easily decided. It would be regions where time zone is similar (where the sun rise and set is similar). Come on man use some common sense. Are you telling me we can apply the same prayer times in California and China?
@@Ameer-is3dh yeah but this has nothing to do with when to start or end Ramadan. Even if the whole world was under Khalifa, some regions would see moon earlier than others.
@@ayeshatjieabrahams4108 seriously? islam is full of logic. it is not illogical. Logic is definitely and important theme in Quran: Aql is translated to “reason”. ... Anyway, majority of Islamic scholars believe logic to be crucial in Islam. Some schools of thought, like Hanafi Suni Islam and Shia Islam believe logic to be the root of all Islamic revelations
@@umarras5520 “If the religion were based on opinion, it would be more important to wipe [make masah on] the under part of the leather sock rather than the upper, however, I have seen Rasulullah (sallallahu ‘alayhi wa sallam) wipe the upper part.” (sahih) (Sunan Abi Dawud, Hadith: 163, At Talkhisul Habir, Hadith: 717)
Your argument is very convincing, my question is, when should we observe and fast on the day of Arafaat? 9th of Dhul Hijjah in Makkah on 9th according to local moon sighting?
Sister, is it important to know when is shaytan coming and when is it locked up? Just follow the commandments to fast and celebrate on the new moon sightings...shaytan comes or not, as long as you fast on the prescibed time, then you will be rewarded... even when the whole world is in middle of Ramadhan, and a muslim doesnt fast, he has sinned with or even without shaytan's pesterings.... My advice is that we just leave the matters of the unseen to Allah and do what Allah commands....InShaAllah I hope that answers your question...
@@PrynzHamydz Saheeh hadith: Abu ‘Umayr ibn Anas reported from his paternal uncles among the Ansaar who said: “It was cloudy and we could not see the new moon of Shawwaal, so we started the day fasting, then a caravan came at the end of the day and told the Messenger of Allah ﷺ that they had seen the new moon of Shawwaal the day before, so he told the people to stop fasting, and they went out to pray the Eid prayer the next day.” [Abu Dawud 1153] The Prophet ﷺ didn't ask where they saw the moon, rather he confirmed whether they are believers or not. You are of the opinion that Muslims should rely on local sightings, I'd like to know who decides where local limits start or end? We all are well aware that fasting on Eid day is haraam.
May Allah bless u n family into the highest Jennah. Ameen. The moon was not sighted in my country according to the hilal committee although it's been sighted in Saudi Arabia. Thank you for clarifying what should be done.
I'm very surprised that the comments section is filled with people who don't think, it is only since communication devices have come in to existence that we have followed sightings of other countries, what happened we wrote letters which were delivered by ship,
If July 31 is a Friday in Saudi Arabia, then July 31 in the United States will be Friday, although there is a time difference; Similarly, If the date of Dhū al-Ḥijjah 10 is 'Yawm al-Jumu‘ah' in Saudi Arabia, then Dhū al-Ḥijjah 10 will be Yawm al-Jumu‘ah in the United States, despite the time difference. This means that even though Americans fall asleep during Friday prayers in Saudi Arabia, they still pray Friday prayers on the same day. Only one day can be marked against a date in the calendar, and it would be unreasonable and impractical to use a calendar that shows one day in the US and another day in Saudi Arabia towards a date. The question that many ask is, whether to fast on the day of Arafat or on the 9th day of Dhū al-Ḥijjah. The question itself is unfounded because the day of Dhū al-Ḥijjah 9 in US should not be different from the day of Dhū al-Ḥijjah 9 in Saudi Arabia.
As u have said , we will fast when we see the moon in the country or locality, so listen 26 people seee the moon in Kerala and karnataka , are they apart from india???
Zul-Hejja ه ١٣٩٩ (Sheikh Abdul Aziz Bin Baaz) The grand scholar Mufti of Saudi Arabia (Al Bathul Islami p 63) After doing extensive research on this issue, he concludes with this statement. ‘As for those who say that it is necessary to follow the sighting of Makkah then let it be known that there is no proof or basis for this in the Holy Qur’an and Sunnah’.
Salafi Albanism The scholars view that a new moon sighting (by 2 witnesses) in any one part of the world makes it compulsory for all Muslims of the world to start fasting and similarly a single new moon sighting in any part of the world makes it necessary for all Muslims of the world to end fasting. Interpretation of the Hadith:-(When you sight the moon, you start fast……) This is a general order for the whole Muslim Ummah. Interpreted as general statement for the world, when moon is seen any place over the world
Fazlur Rahman why are you confusing? The hadith clearly mentions "when you see the moon you start fast". The prophet (Pbuh) doesn't says, "when anyone sees the moon you fast"- which you interpreted is wrong brother. Now if you can go on scholars opinion, maximum scholars opinion is try to see the moon yourself it's sunnah. Zajak ALLAH khairun.
Ashikul Hasan Hlo dear aap batayie ki jb prophet Muhammad (s/w) the ya fir jb Khilafah thi to whole world mai ek hi baar start fasting aur end fasting hota hai kya aap bataege ki us waqt sb log ek hi din moon dekh lete the .... Aur jahan tk rhi hadith ke meanig ka aap bataea ki ek baar agr aisa ho ki india mai moon sighting aur aap jis shahar ya jis mohhale mai reh rhe hai wahan bhi moon dhikh jae But aap moon nhi dekh pae to aap batege ki start fasting or end fasting krenge ???
Only Allah can open their hearts and minds..... 1 Saudi announces to its nation, not world. 2 Saudi always seem to announce first. 3 The sighting seems to be exclusive to Saudi. 4 No country before or after seems to have sighted when Saudi have claimed sighting. 5 No evidence from the Quran and Sunnah to follow Saudi. 6 Morocco has the best moonsighting establishment in the world. 272 points in their kingdom, every month with the naked eye. 7 By following Saudi, one has made redundant the verses and passages stated in the Quran and Sunnah.
Why is it that people are rejecting the clear evidence and instead following that which is not prescribed by the Qur'an and Sunnah? What will it take for people to understand not to follow that which is doubtful, unreliable and unverified? Only Allah can open their hearts and minds.....
Bareylvi Opinion The founder of the Barylevi movement, Maulana Ahmad Raza Khan, said: "In the correct and authentic mazhab of our Imams, with regard to the sighting of moon for Ramdhan and Eid, distance of the place of sighting is of no consideration. The sighting of the east is binding upon west and vice versa i.e. the sighting of west is similarly binding on east." [Fatawa Rizwi; Vol 4 page 568, Urdu edition]
It is stating the obvious that there is a time difference.. The issue is that sometimes we are fasting more than 24 hours apart because we don't see the moon with the naked eye despite the astronomical calculation and telescopic sighting. The issue is why we miss Ramadaan when we don't see the moon with the naked eye despite the moon being born and visible with an optical aid?
WHAT IF THE NEWS REACHES US TOO LATE TO FAST ON THE SAME MORNING? This has also been answered in the ahadith. It is also reported in an authentic hadith: Abu ‘Umayr ibn Anas reported from his paternal uncles among the Ansaar who said: "It was cloudy and we could not see the new moon of Shawwaal, so we started the day fasting, then a caravan came at the end of the day and told the Mes-senger [s] that they had seen the new moon of Shaw-waal the day before, so he told the people to stop fast-ing, and they went out to pray the Eid prayer the next day."
Ok if that’s the case and people have to look for their own lunar dates with respect to their specific region then what would be the exact time for LailatulQadar? Every Muslim will experience this night on different day and time but doesn’t that night have specific timings? Angels comes on earth on this blessed night would they be coming for two probably three nights since people have difference in lunar dates? Similarly Hajj is performed on 10th of Zilhajj but if we follow our own lunar dates then hajj is next to the day of actual hajj that doesn’t make sense, hajj is performed once on specific time and date everyone follows, and what about the day of Ashoorawhat would be the exact day to fast would this day again be different for everyone? i am confused if any one can help answer my question
It's only 24 hours difference or less than 24 hours difference between continents... Like 6 to 8 hours difference between some Asian or Australian countries or regions with Mecca and both Asian countries like China and Filipins and Australia are all a head of Macca. While Mecca is ahead of time like 6hours difference with some areas of America and Holulus in America is almost a day difference with Mecca.
Assalam alaikum. So, any of the people in the comments section tell me how do they define the boundaries in moon sightings? If you cannot bring a single daleel on this, then accept that you are wrong. What you blindly follow is sectarianism because of which there are 2, 3 Eid celebrations in some places. It's ridiculous that in my place people doesn't accept the moon sightings news from Srilanka which is 150KMs away but they accept it when it comes from Chennai or Delhi which are 500KM and 2600KM away respectively.
That is all good and everything but why does Pakistan always fast one day after Makkah? According to the logic Dr Zakir said they should rather fast one day early (in fact few hours) because they are located towards east.
What about the day lailath al qadur and the worship and the benefits of that day. The benefits of that day can measure in different two days at the same time???
in birmingham UK there are 2 or three 3 eid every years, can you please tell me if i cant see the moon myself how would the ruling work? should i follow Macca
Dr. Zakir if we agree by u than according to ur explaination there occurs 'layl atul qadr'. More than one time .... approx on 2-3 consecutive nights instead. Can this happen,??? Please explain.
Yes, what do you think.happened before communication devices came in to existence, only in last 50 years countries have followed the sightings of other countries, what happened hundred years ago or before then, when letters about 30 to 40 years ago would take a week or two to reach another country, all you have to do is think.alittle bit then you will understand better.
Today I have to disagree with Dr Saab about expressing some experts opinion that sighting may differ for 4 days also. The rotation of Moon around the Earth is very perfect so if at one longitude when the sunlit area of the Moon after no Moon night (amawas in India) begins, new moon may not be visible but at later longitudes ie in some other country, after few hours it becomes visible & definitely it will be visible on the next evening at the first longitude we started. The Moon"s speed around the Earth does not vary at all. The differences in moon sighting observations is only dependent on the scattered lighting in the sky near the ground or clouding. Thus maximum difference scientifically cannot be more than one day due to the position of no moon night & another day because of the starting point of new Moon.
Only Allah can open their hearts and minds..... 1 Saudi announces to its nation, not world. 2 Saudi always seem to announce first. 3 The sighting seems to be exclusive to Saudi. 4 No country before or after seems to have sighted when Saudi have claimed sighting. 5 No evidence from the Quran and Sunnah to follow Saudi. 6 Morocco has the best moonsighting establishment in the world. 272 points in their kingdom, every month with the naked eye. 7 By following Saudi, one has made redundant the verses and passages stated in the Quran and Sunnah.
Why is it that people are rejecting the clear evidence and instead following that which is not prescribed by the Qur'an and Sunnah? What will it take for people to understand not to follow that which is doubtful, unreliable and unverified? Only Allah can open their hearts and minds.....
Moon can become visible throughout various countries at different times. Meaning, sometimes it can be visible in India first and sometimes it can become visible in south America.
@@adampaula1863 If Saudi sights the moon, then other countries too should sight the moon. Why Saudi sights first and foremost is something to think about.
@@adampaula1863 Problem is that there is a Muslim country that claims to sight the moon and that is Saudi. The problem with them is that they claim to see new moon first and they do announcement two or three months of the year. Beginning of Ramadan, Eid and Haj dates. The rest of the year they use astronomical data and no moon sighting is reported. To sight the moon is the whole ummahs responsibility and to follow just one country would mean the death of the tradition of moon sighting everywhere else. One thing for sure, to follow Saudi is doubtful and unverified. One country does moon sighting like no one else, that is Morocco. Every month they are have a system of sighting the moon with the naked eye from 278 different points throughout it's kingdom.
Who is responsible to declare the sight of moon? I mean is there any responsibility to obey my mosque or nation or declaration of the world? Even if I see it then shall I follow it even the Imam is following some other days?
You should be well aware that Allah says in the Quran I made 12 months and each month cinsisting either 29 or 30 days only. So, if eid is on 1st for example and previous month is of 31st then the day of 31st DOES NOT EXIST IN ISLAMIC MONTH.. RIGHT THEN WHY DO WE FAST ADDING ANOTHER DAY TO THE MONTH?? Its simply because we say we follow lunar but actually follow the wrong solar calender. Thats why..
This video was 3yrs ago! But i have a question seriously, it’s ramadan 2020 and all other countries are still fasting, but 2ppl declared that they saw the moon and our country is celebrating eid today “Saturday/may 23” but we all have khilaf on that and in few masjids they said that it’s not eid but most of ppl in our country broke fast today, so what to do?? I’m confused! i didn’t break my fast yet, so pls help😶
I think it should be based on when you you or the area of people see the moon . Moon is like the mother to planet. Also the fasting should be at the day time .
I sent a question to a speaker to answer. You may also see it for your comments. سوال-فرض کیا آپکی شادی 25 شوال کو پاکستان میں ھوئی تھی دوسال بعد آپ سعودی عرب آگۓآپنے شوال کا چانددیکھ لیا لیکن آپکی زوجہ محترمہ کو نظرنہ آیا چونکہ پاکستان میں تھیں 25شوال کوآپ نےفوراً مبارکباد دےدی لیکن محترمہ کا جواب آیا 25شوال توکل ھے آپکی شادی کا 25 شوال کون سا ھےایک دن پہلے یاایک دن بعد والا-یعنی زوجہ والا-
Tell me one thing "see moon and keep fasting by it" either the ayat is indicating for all ummah in world or to particularly indian, pakistanian, saudian individually????????? Another question is When it’s Friday in saudia what is the day in india?? Then tell me if all that logic goes to muslim ummah why you are separtaing logic to individual, solar time has difference but moon reflection start once in every month just people see it different corner at different time, here news is fact so as the ayat indicating whole muslim ummah so why one moon sighting and it's news is not enough??? Longitude and latitude is different things it's for solar salat timing but moon started it reflection so as per logic why you are not clarifying this????. And why still no argument and logic about one moon sighting????
He spoke about this already in the video, the moon can't be seen the same time in every single country, so you'd fast according to your own country's moon.
I can understand people from world cannot have Ramadan and Eid on same day but can some one answer this please. I'm from UK and in UK people are having Eid and Ramadan on two different day's. How is it possible in the same country and divided people. Whom.do.we blame.
I am watching this a year late! I am also in the UK. The reason is because some Mosques follow Saudi mosques so when Saudi says they've sighted the moon, Ramadan is announced. If you are here in 2024, you will see that Saudi have seen the moon so will start fasting tomorrow (as will those mosques that follow them). We haven't seen the moon in the UK yet so it looks like we'll start fasting on Tuesday 12th March.
Salaam.w...Dr naik alhamdulilah for all ur work you have great talent mashallah and done and still do great things in our deen but in this case of the sightings of the 🌙 I do not except and this it is not the way of the prophet Muhammad ...the muslim ummah is one should all fast or make eid together. And as for scientists they are not the ones who brought the quraan and sunnah down ...this is all the politics of the west if u do not except its up to u but we will stand introit of Allah and we will ask him ... and i am not asking for any body's comments not in a rude way but i do not except this salaam.w.
2023: the moon has not been sighted in the UK and yet there are muslims who are doing Eid because it was sighted in Saudi Arabia and some doing Eid a day after as the the moon was not sighted. Who is correct? Listening to Zakir, it seems like the second group is correct because they are searching for the regional moon and Zakir gave mamy evidence including quran and hadith according to this method whereas he mentioned one PERSONAL opinion of a scholar who thought the whole of the muslim ummah should follow saudi What do you think, reader?
If one legitimate person sighted the moon and.makes aware of sighting.. then scholars should consider that sighting and accept the man's sighting... but the different schools of thought are with pride and stupidity that they wanna sight regionally.... there's one moon I'f it's sighted after maghrib then the other countries maghrib the next day then it's the only start of their calendar
Dr Zakir Naik says local sighting, you guys say global sighting, but Allah says that He has made the moon a sign for the months for us, so I think it is very incorrect to ignore the moon in your country and just go with the moon in another country. Very illogical right...
Your quotations ok, but you are adding territory on your own wish. All of the math habs excluding shafi, they say global sighting is enough for start Ramadan...
*Is one sighting of the new crescent sufficient for the whole Muslim Ummah, or should each region depend on their own sighting?* Most Muslim jurists have adopted the opinion that any sighting of the new crescent, anywhere in the world, is considered valid and acceptable for determining the beginning and end of the month of Ramadaan. These jurists include: Imaam Abu Haneefah, Imaam Maalik and Imaam Ahmad Ibn Hanbal. In other words, if the new crescent is seen anywhere in the world, it becomes obligatory for all Muslims to begin fasting, as the Prophet ﷺ said, "Fast after you have seen it [the new crescent] and end the fast [at the end of the month] when you see it." This hadîth is a general address directed to the whole Muslim Ummah. That is, if anyone sees the new crescent in any place, then this will be a valid sighting for all Muslims. The sayings of the Muslim jurists regarding this matter: (From the book Al-Fiqh-u-lislaamy-wa'delatah By Dr. Whbah Az-Zuhayli vol.2, p. 606) The Hanaafi Scholars said 1 : "The difference of the moon sighting localities, and sighting the moon during the daytime whether before midday or after it are not considered in terms of determining the beginning or the end of the month. This is in accordance with the preponderant opinion in the Hanaafi School. It is also the opinion viewed by most of the Hanaafi scholars, and it is also the opinion followed in giving fatwas. Therefore, the people of the east are duty bound to follow the new moon sighting of the people of the west if it is proved that they have sighted the moon in a sound and binding way, such as when two men bear witness that they have sighted the new moon, or if they testify to the judgment of the Judge, or if the news of the sighting of the moon becomes well-known to everyone. This does not apply to the case when one reports that the people of such and such city have sighted the new moon, for this is considered a reported speech. The Maaliki scholars said 2 : "If the crescent is sighted somewhere, people should fast everywhere, whether they live close or far away. People are not to consider in this regard the distance required for shortening the prayer nor the unity in sighting localities or its non-existence. Hence, fasting is obligatory for everyone who is informed about the sighting of the crescent if this sighting is reported by two reliable witnesses or a big group of people. The Hanbali scholars said 3 : "If the crescent has been sighted in a certain locality, be it near or far, all the people are obligated to fast. The ruling of the one who has not sighted the crescent is the same as that of the one who has sighted it. Is one sighting of the new crescent sufficient for the whole Muslim Ummah, or should each region depend on their own sighting? Most Muslim jurists have adopted the opinion that any sighting of the crescent moon, anywhere in the world, is considered valid and acceptable for determining the beginning and end of the month of Ramadaan. These jurists include: the Hanafis, Maalikis, and Hanbalis. In other words, if the crescent moon is seen anywhere in the world, it becomes obligatory for all Muslims to begin fasting, as the Prophet ﷺ said, "Fast after you have seen it [the crescent moon] and end the fast [at the end of the month] when you see it." This hadîth is a general address directed to the whole Muslim Ummah. That is, if anyone sees the new crescent in any place, then this will be a valid sighting for all Muslims. However Imaam Shaafi'i said that each locality should have their own sighting, and they are not obligated to adopt the sighting of another location. He used the following as evidence: Once one of the companions, Kuraib narrated that Um Ul-Fadl has sent him to visit Muaa'wia in As-Shaam (Syria). He said: 'I went to As-Shaam and accomplished the purpose of my visit, and while I was there, Ramadaan started; I had seen the crescent moon on Thursday night, and then went back to Madinah at the end of the month. Ibn Abbaas mentioned the crescent moon asking, 'When did you see the crescent moon?' I replied: 'We saw it on Thursday night.' Ibn Abbaas then asked: 'Kuraib, did you see it?' I answered: 'Yes! And the people had seen it, and they fasted, and so did Muaa'wia.' So Ibn Abbaas said: 'But we had seen it Friday night, so we will fast until we complete thirty days or until we see the crescent moon. I then asked: 'Aren't you satisfied with Muaa'wia's sighting and his fasting?' Ibn Abbaas answered: 'No, this is what the Messenger of Allaah had ordered us to do. [Recorded by Imaam Muslim, and others] Notice from this previous hadeeth , that Kuraib arrived to Madinah at the very end of the month of Ramadaan. This is important because Ibn Abbass and the Muslims in Madinah didn't have the knowledge of Mu'awia's sighting, and therefore, they had no choice but to continue their fast based on their own sightings. However, in today's society, communication is highly advanced and fast. News of sightings in any place in the world can reach us before fajr time, right before we begin our fast. Nobody can claim today that had Ibn Abbass been informed of a sighting before fajr that he would not have followed it and fasted along with the people of As-Shaam. With that said, this previous hadeeth is not applicable to today's society, because rapid communication did not exist at that time as it does today. The followers of Imaam Shaafi'I further specified the exact distance between locations saying: If the crescent is seen in a certain place, then the areas within this region are obliged to accept this sighting, however, the places outside of this region are not obliged. Anyone who lives within an area spanning 133.056 km from the original sighting location is obliged to follow that area's sighting. This distance was calculated by multiplying twenty-four units of distance by 5544 meters, which is the equivalent of 133.056 km. In other words, all those who live within this 133 km span, are required to follow the sighting. After hearing this information about determining the beginning and ending of Ramadaan, we ask Allaah ﷻ to give us the health, strength, and Imaan to take advantage of the opportunities to worship during the month of Ramadaan and that He accept all of our righteous deeds. Ameen . I ask Allaah ﷻ to protect us against the misdoings and bestow unto us sincerity in speech and action. Aameen
No dr. Naik, if that was only case then how would people fast in norway when the sun doesnt rise for 06 minths? That means if you say they should follow their neighbouring country then the same applies for day of arafat too that we follow the only day of arafat for siyam.. following neighbouring country and that following its another neighbouring country..
The scholars view that a new moon sighting (by 2 witnesses) in any one part of the world makes it compulsory for all Muslims of the world to start fasting and similarly a single new moon sighting in any part of the world makes it necessary for all Muslims of the world to end fasting. Interpretation of the Hadith:-(When you sight the moon, you start fast……) This is a general order for the whole Muslim Ummah. Interpreted as general statement for the world, when moon is seen any place over the world
If you follow one sighting which is always announced by Saudi first, that means you would kill the Sunnah of moon sighting throughout the rest of the world. And don't forget, Saudi seems to sight moon in impossible conditions. When you pray in your country, you follow the times accordingly to your locality, so no reason to follow some who can testify from a different part.
@@adampaula1863 Dont compare solar system with lunar system, In islam when Magharib inter day change but in solar system there special date line which followed by World.
These discussions are so tedious. "Which of the favours of your lord will you deny?" There is no doubt that one of the greatest gifts to mankind is our ability to "reason", which resulted in Islam's push for improving ourselves through education and scholarly works. This led to some of the greatest discoveries for mankind...again All favours of Allah... yet we deny. Use his favours, His gifts and we WILL have unity, well at least with the moon sightings... this would do away with the local vs Makkah argument and weather or not we see the moon. It astounds me that our educated scholars continue to debate something as trivial as this. Picking and choosing the Sunnah... Prophet used camels to travel around, Prophet carried a long staff, the prophet did many things due to the time and conditions... Do you really believe that the Prophet would not have used Allah's gifts to help unite his ummah. Through Islam and its contributions to the sciences we know the exact position, exact time,, exact phase of the moon for the next millennia and yet we squabble ... Sad times indeed.
That difference in moons appearance don’t have a difference more than 24 hours so technically all muslims should fast on same day It’s just a matter of few hour difference with a maximum of 24 hours
Stupidity at its extremity. If July 31 is a Friday in Saudi Arabia, then July 31 in the United States will also be a Friday, despite the time difference between the two countries. Similarly, If the 10th of Dhū al-Ḥijjah is Yawm al-Jumu'ah in Saudi Arabia, then the 10th of Dhū al-Ḥijjah will be Yawm al-Jumu'ah in the United States as well, regardless of the time difference. This means that even though Americans may be asleep during Friday prayers in Saudi Arabia, they still observe Friday prayers on the same Islamic day. It would be unreasonable and impractical to use a calendar that displays one day in the US and another day in Saudi Arabia for the same date. The purpose of observing the hilal (crescent moon) is to determine the beginning of a lunar month, NOT to establish the starting point of a solar day. If the hilal is visible in the United States, the new lunar month should commence for all, including Mecca. If the Hijri date represents a lunar day, then only we need to bother about visibility lines and worry about how Far East/west/north/south we can expand etc. No need to complicate the calendar by limiting the Hijri date to political borders. If you understand that a date is a figure to denote a day, then you need to find whether it is a solar day or a lunar day. Islamic dates are solar days, fasting starts at dawn(Fair), fasting ends at sunset(Magrib), and prayer times are arranged based on the sun's position. The role of the crescent is to find the solar day. Nobody is demanding to unite Eid prayer time but demanding to unite Eid day. Time is based on the sun’s position. Eid prayer time will be different from location to location. The Hilal may not be visible all over a state or all over a county. Only reports of the Hilal are enough to start the month. Sometimes, we cannot see the Hilal all over the country, earlier each city had separate dates due to a lack of communication and travel facilities, now we expanded from city to state, state to country, and country to continent
This is the only Q/A by Dr Zakir which I found that he is not correct in his explanations according to astronomy. How come we can see moon in Srilanka and perform Eid/ Fast but we dont see moon in india and we dont fast/ celebrate Eid? These countries are in same longitude. There are many examples like Malysia, China, Phillipines, Bangladesh they differ though they are to the east of Makkah and should see the moon. Disappointed!!
Global moon sightings k maamle m zakir nayak galat bole quran o sunnat ki roshni m firr se soncho saari dunya m ej hi din chand nazar aata hy apne aone time zone m
He is confusing people with time and day. The Muslims pray Jumua prayers at different times but all pray Jumua prayers on the same day.(yawm al Jumua). Jumua is the weekly Eid of Muslims, if weakly Eid is over on the earth in 24 hours why does the annual Eid end up in multiple days(24 to 72 hours?
@@nishameera3351 weekdays are solar days not lunar days. There is no importance for a lunar day in Islam. Prayer times are based on solar. Fasting is based on solar day(dawn to dusk)
we already sent a letter to zakir naik to debate challenge. but he still didn't respond to us. according to quran and sunnah zakir naik is not a muslim. he is misguiding ummath. prophet said "my ummath will be become 73 sects. 72 sects will go to hell and only one jamath will go to heaven" all 73 sects are ummath of prophet but not muslims they are mushrik (read quran 30:31,32). muslims are the one jamath which only go to heaven. prophet said to "join with jamaathul muslimeen and there imaam" (buhari,muslim)
Ashfaaq Reshard please keep ur personal opinions to your self. You are not a scholar, and only Allah knows who is a true Muslim. So ur statement itself shows that u deeply lack knowledge and wisdom and u r not in any position to say who is Muslim and who is not. Further more, Zakir Naik always says he is just Muslim and does not label himself as part of any sect.
The famous Hanafi scholar Imam Sarkhasi (died 483 A.H.) quotes the narration from Abu Dawud (2333, 2334) that; The Muslims did not begin fasting since they did not see the moon. Then a man, from out of Madinah, came and told the Prophet [s] that he had seen it (the moon). The Prophet [s] asked him if he was a Muslim to which the man answered ‘yes’. The Prophet [s] then said: "Allahu-Akbar! one is enough for all Muslims" The Prophet [s] fasted and asked the people to stop eating and start fasting. [Al-Mabsout 3-52]
Yes true.. but on those days people travel by camel or donkey or horse.
In a single day he cant pass a long distance... He was sighting inside saudi arabia or parallel time zone country..
@mohamed raaif
Are you following time zone region or politically divided country
@@safatha17 Not the politically divided border of a country. Rather, you follow the majority of an area according the hadith mentioned at 2:50
How to define majority area?
@@mohamedraaif1696yeah exactly well said this is common sense! How silly of the original comment did he not think that long distance travel back in those days used to take many days?
Thank you Dr. Zakir Naik. You have explained it well. We should follow the moon sight of our locality. Just like the way no one argue why time if swala(namaz) differ from one place to another, the same way the time if Saum and day to start can't be same.
May Allah bless Doctor Zakir Naik
What a beautiful answer
I really respect Dr Zakir.
He opens great number of people's mind.
JazakAllahu khairan
JazakAllahu Khairan.
Jazakumullahu Khaira
Jazak Allaahu Khayran
Absolute hiqma, MashaAllah, most simplify explanation ever on dis topic. May Allah reward and preserve you. Amin Ya Allah
JazakAllah for the most important issue in the Muslim world finally has been solved thru Islam and Science and in fact this is the very thing i had been waiting for to know since 2001 maybe....! Thank you Dr. Zakir Naik....May Allah bless you always...🌿🌿🌿
There are far more important issues than this facing the ummah!
You may think so. We may wish so. Now read the comments. Nothing solved The disagreement continues. I am not a student of Dr Naik but in this discussion he makes a very articulate and convincing case for local moonsighting. I happen to find the local moonsighting argument the more convincing one but both points of view raise questions. One factor that affects the discussion is that we have worldwide communication but that in itself is not the deciding factor. It is logical to consider that if we are to follow time zones from far distance then logically, as Doctor Naik explains, that applies to sun times ie the basis of the 24 hour day and in that case we should all commence fasting at the same time. Furthermore the 24 hour day itself is an arbitrary numerical system and for example prayer times are according to natural phenomena which don't depend on clock times. We use those times as aids of convenience.
No doubt there are those who disagree and they have brought their fatwas in many comments already posted so need to repeat, I am not here for argumentation. Just one slightly provocative question - in the event that the technology of long distance communication ever failed what would you do?
The motions of the universe are governed by Allah. We immediately confound our intellectual capacity when we consider time in relation to motion. Again as Dr Naik alludes to - is it Layla-t-ul Qadr in Malaysia and USA at the "same time" ? Subhana Rabbika Rabbil Izzati amma yasifuun.Allahu Akbar.
And Allah know best what we don't know.
JazakAllah
SubhanAllah it should be according to local sightings...but its sad in local one country too half follow moonsighting..n half global sighting...this is creating differences between each other n being muslims we r not united. Only Allah swt can guide all n opens everyone's heart. Jazak Allah khair for such clear explanation.🤲🤲🤲💐
Local sighting by definition causes more division because inevitably some areas will see the moon and other areas will not. Then they may argue over who truly saw it or not.
Global sighting is by definition united on one day. No debates.
Here’s what some scholars said about every Muslim fasting Ibn Taymiyyah: “…a person who learns about the sighting of the moon in good time to be able to utilise it for fasting, for end-ing his fast, or for sacrifice, he must definitely do so. The texts [of Islam] and the reports about the Salaf point to this. To limit this to a certain distance or coun-try would contradict both the reason and the Islamic law.” [Al-Fatawa, volume 5, page 111]
Yes but would you not apply a bit more logic to this, and say this Hadith is regarding people who are in their locality. E.g. if people in the south of the Uk saw the moon, and then later in the day others in the Uk heard about this, then they should act accordingly and break the fast or do the sacrifice. I really don’t see any logic of this working for someone seeing the moon in California , and then straight away people in Japan need to act upon . I think a bit of logic need to be applied.
@@siriussaracen8371I understand you point but then we get into the question of what is considered a “locality”?
@@siriussaracen8371becoz only gov muslims should be establish is Khilafah. since islam doesn't allow muslims divided into national countries anyway.😊
@@fulaan1 well obviously that could be easily decided. It would be regions where time zone is similar (where the sun rise and set is similar). Come on man use some common sense. Are you telling me we can apply the same prayer times in California and China?
@@Ameer-is3dh yeah but this has nothing to do with when to start or end Ramadan. Even if the whole world was under Khalifa, some regions would see moon earlier than others.
Mashaallah shaykh
May Allah bless you so much and Increase you in beneficial knowledge
MashAllah very good brother with ref from Quran & Hadiths
Shaykh al Islam Ibn Taymiyyah and Shaykh Ibn uthaymeen are of the view that it should be according to your country. This is logical and makes sense
@@ayeshatjieabrahams4108 seriously? islam is full of logic. it is not illogical. Logic is definitely and important theme in Quran: Aql is translated to “reason”. ... Anyway, majority of Islamic scholars believe logic to be crucial in Islam. Some schools of thought, like Hanafi Suni Islam and Shia Islam believe logic to be the root of all Islamic revelations
@@umarras5520 “If the religion were based on opinion, it would be more important to wipe [make masah on] the under part of the leather sock rather than the upper, however, I have seen Rasulullah (sallallahu ‘alayhi wa sallam) wipe the upper part.” (sahih)
(Sunan Abi Dawud, Hadith: 163, At Talkhisul Habir, Hadith: 717)
Ayeshatjie Abrahams yes the religion is not based of opinion rather it is based on logic and authentic proofs.
Your argument is very convincing, my question is, when should we observe and fast on the day of Arafaat? 9th of Dhul Hijjah in Makkah on 9th according to local moon sighting?
Tomorrow
Sister, is it important to know when is shaytan coming and when is it locked up? Just follow the commandments to fast and celebrate on the new moon sightings...shaytan comes or not, as long as you fast on the prescibed time, then you will be rewarded... even when the whole world is in middle of Ramadhan, and a muslim doesnt fast, he has sinned with or even without shaytan's pesterings.... My advice is that we just leave the matters of the unseen to Allah and do what Allah commands....InShaAllah I hope that answers your question...
Ha ha
@@PrynzHamydz
Saheeh hadith: Abu ‘Umayr ibn Anas reported from his paternal uncles among the Ansaar who said: “It was cloudy and we could not see the new moon of Shawwaal, so we started the day fasting, then a caravan came at the end of the day and told the Messenger of Allah ﷺ that they had seen the new moon of Shawwaal the day before, so he told the people to stop fasting, and they went out to pray the Eid prayer the next day.” [Abu Dawud 1153]
The Prophet ﷺ didn't ask where they saw the moon, rather he confirmed whether they are believers or not.
You are of the opinion that Muslims should rely on local sightings, I'd like to know who decides where local limits start or end?
We all are well aware that fasting on Eid day is haraam.
Nice
Maa shaa Allah. May Allah swt bless you Dr Zakir
May Allah bless u n family into the highest Jennah. Ameen. The moon was not sighted in my country according to the hilal committee although it's been sighted in Saudi Arabia. Thank you for clarifying what should be done.
Just making a case for what you want Dr.
I'm very surprised that the comments section is filled with people who don't think, it is only since communication devices have come in to existence that we have followed sightings of other countries, what happened we wrote letters which were delivered by ship,
Jazak Allahukhairan, you have nicely captured all key points. May Allah guidance to our GoogleDeenImams to follow the true sunnah, aameen!
What if your locality also divides amongst themselves?? Who should u follow😅
Just use your eyes that Allah had blessed you with. If you see the new moon then fast
Thats what i used to say to my fellow citizens in Bangladesh.
Last year bd te saudir dui din pore eid hoite gesilo mone ase? 😂 Pore chaad na dekhei eid er ghoshona dise 😂
Problem is Muslim Authorities do not understand ASTRONOMY OF THE MOON, EARTH and SUN !! This is the main problem
SubhanAllah! Think that most of senegalese people should see that video.
Definitely Allah knows better.
If July 31 is a Friday in Saudi Arabia, then July 31 in the United States will be Friday, although there is a time difference;
Similarly,
If the date of Dhū al-Ḥijjah 10 is 'Yawm al-Jumu‘ah' in Saudi Arabia, then Dhū al-Ḥijjah 10 will be Yawm al-Jumu‘ah in the United States, despite the time difference. This means that even though Americans fall asleep during Friday prayers in Saudi Arabia, they still pray Friday prayers on the same day.
Only one day can be marked against a date in the calendar, and it would be unreasonable and impractical to use a calendar that shows one day in the US and another day in Saudi Arabia towards a date.
The question that many ask is, whether to fast on the day of Arafat or on the 9th day of Dhū al-Ḥijjah. The question itself is unfounded because the day of Dhū al-Ḥijjah 9 in US should not be different from the day of Dhū al-Ḥijjah 9 in Saudi Arabia.
Yes I get your point you are very
Then even the days if Fridays also has to be different
So how many hours difference exist between continents in terms of time differences since there is just one crescent for earth?
As u have said , we will fast when we see the moon in the country or locality, so listen 26 people seee the moon in Kerala and karnataka , are they apart from india???
actually we dont have this issue our issue is we are locally divide same country celebrate different days.I got a good answer Dr tahir ul qadri/
Imam Muslim on the authority of Abu Hurayrah: that "The Messenger of Allah [s] forbade fasting on two days, the day of al-Adha and the day of al-Fitr"
Zul-Hejja ه ١٣٩٩ (Sheikh Abdul Aziz Bin Baaz) The grand scholar Mufti of Saudi Arabia (Al Bathul Islami p 63) After doing extensive research on this issue, he concludes with this statement. ‘As for those who say that it is necessary to follow the sighting of Makkah then let it be known that there is no proof or basis for this in the Holy Qur’an and Sunnah’.
Salafi Albanism The scholars view that a new moon sighting (by 2 witnesses) in any one part of the world makes it compulsory for all Muslims of the world to start fasting and similarly a single new moon sighting in any part of the world makes it necessary for all Muslims of the world to end fasting.
Interpretation of the Hadith:-(When you sight the moon, you start fast……)
This is a general order for the whole Muslim Ummah. Interpreted as general statement for the world, when moon is seen any place over the world
Fazlur Rahman why are you confusing? The hadith clearly mentions "when you see the moon you start fast". The prophet (Pbuh) doesn't says, "when anyone sees the moon you fast"- which you interpreted is wrong brother. Now if you can go on scholars opinion, maximum scholars opinion is try to see the moon yourself it's sunnah.
Zajak ALLAH khairun.
Ashikul Hasan
Hlo dear aap batayie ki jb prophet Muhammad (s/w) the ya fir jb Khilafah thi to whole world mai ek hi baar start fasting aur end fasting hota hai kya aap bataege ki us waqt sb log ek hi din moon dekh lete the ....
Aur jahan tk rhi hadith ke meanig ka aap bataea ki ek baar agr aisa ho ki india mai moon sighting aur aap jis shahar ya jis mohhale mai reh rhe hai wahan bhi moon dhikh jae But aap moon nhi dekh pae to aap batege ki start fasting or end fasting krenge ???
@@fazlurrahman5171 or ashikul Hasan kurayb wale hadith par lo... Muslim share me
Only Allah can open their hearts and minds.....
1 Saudi announces to its nation, not world.
2 Saudi always seem to announce first.
3 The sighting seems to be exclusive to Saudi.
4 No country before or after seems to have sighted when Saudi have claimed sighting.
5 No evidence from the Quran and Sunnah to follow Saudi.
6 Morocco has the best moonsighting establishment in the world. 272 points in their kingdom, every month with the naked eye. 7 By following Saudi, one has made redundant the verses and passages stated in the Quran and Sunnah.
Why is it that people are rejecting the clear evidence and instead following that which is not prescribed by the Qur'an and Sunnah?
What will it take for people to understand not to follow that which is doubtful, unreliable and unverified?
Only Allah can open their hearts and minds.....
Very good anwer
Bareylvi Opinion
The founder of the Barylevi movement, Maulana Ahmad Raza Khan, said: "In the correct and authentic mazhab of our Imams, with regard to the sighting of moon for Ramdhan and Eid, distance of the place of sighting is of no consideration. The sighting of the east is binding upon west and vice versa i.e. the sighting of west is similarly binding on east." [Fatawa Rizwi; Vol 4 page 568, Urdu edition]
Keep living ignorant life with illogical and irrational reasoning on moon sighting
It is stating the obvious that there is a time difference.. The issue is that sometimes we are fasting more than 24 hours apart because we don't see the moon with the naked eye despite the astronomical calculation and telescopic sighting. The issue is why we miss Ramadaan when we don't see the moon with the naked eye despite the moon being born and visible with an optical aid?
WHAT IF THE NEWS REACHES US TOO LATE TO FAST ON THE SAME MORNING? This has also been answered in the ahadith. It is also reported in an authentic hadith: Abu ‘Umayr ibn Anas reported from his paternal uncles among the Ansaar who said: "It was cloudy and we could not see the new moon of Shawwaal, so we started the day fasting, then a caravan came at the end of the day and told the Mes-senger [s] that they had seen the new moon of Shaw-waal the day before, so he told the people to stop fast-ing, and they went out to pray the Eid prayer the next day."
Reference of this Hadith please?
Salaam Dr zaakir what about we that stay on South Africa Cape town if they keep eidul adgha they only 1hour before us
The best answer.. SubhanAllah 👍
Ok if that’s the case and people have to look for their own lunar dates with respect to their specific region then what would be the exact time for LailatulQadar? Every Muslim will experience this night on different day and time but doesn’t that night have specific timings? Angels comes on earth on this blessed night would they be coming for two probably three nights since people have difference in lunar dates? Similarly Hajj is performed on 10th of Zilhajj but if we follow our own lunar dates then hajj is next to the day of actual hajj that doesn’t make sense, hajj is performed once on specific time and date everyone follows, and what about the day of Ashoorawhat would be the exact day to fast would this day again be different for everyone? i am confused if any one can help answer my question
i have the same question
I didn't saw anyone answering this question
It's only 24 hours difference or less than 24 hours difference between continents... Like 6 to 8 hours difference between some Asian or Australian countries or regions with Mecca and both Asian countries like China and Filipins and Australia are all a head of Macca. While Mecca is ahead of time like 6hours difference with some areas of America and Holulus in America is almost a day difference with Mecca.
Lol , its not about a day difference . Its about moon rotation . Moon and sun rotation are completely different .
Assalam alaikum. So, any of the people in the comments section tell me how do they define the boundaries in moon sightings? If you cannot bring a single daleel on this, then accept that you are wrong. What you blindly follow is sectarianism because of which there are 2, 3 Eid celebrations in some places. It's ridiculous that in my place people doesn't accept the moon sightings news from Srilanka which is 150KMs away but they accept it when it comes from Chennai or Delhi which are 500KM and 2600KM away respectively.
That is all good and everything but why does Pakistan always fast one day after Makkah? According to the logic Dr Zakir said they should rather fast one day early (in fact few hours) because they are located towards east.
this year we celebrated the eid on the same day as Makkah
No logic can argue with facts. Dr Zakir talks abt facts your logic in Islam is the last resort
What about the day lailath al qadur and the worship and the benefits of that day. The benefits of that day can measure in different two days at the same time???
Masha'Allah good questions it needs an answer
in birmingham UK there are 2 or three 3 eid every years, can you please tell me if i cant see the moon myself how would the ruling work? should i follow Macca
follow macca
If you see the moon do your EID.
Yusupha Chelsea no. Spotting 1 day old moon is not a simple task for the layman.
***** but he ask if he see it, so when he it what should he wait for?
You do it when Macca does it. If you're an expert in astronomy and know what you're looking for then feel free to do your own observations
First time i disagree zakir naik's statement, yet as he is a human , he can do mistakes some times
Dr. Zakir if we agree by u than according to ur explaination there occurs 'layl atul qadr'. More than one time .... approx on 2-3 consecutive nights instead. Can this happen,??? Please explain.
Same question bro
And what about eid ul azha when It's said that the next day of arafah is eid ul azha. Why we make eid in different days all over the world.
Yes same q .
Yes, what do you think.happened before communication devices came in to existence, only in last 50 years countries have followed the sightings of other countries, what happened hundred years ago or before then, when letters about 30 to 40 years ago would take a week or two to reach another country, all you have to do is think.alittle bit then you will understand better.
@@RobinHood-fy7lv so you are saying there are multiple laylatul qadr nights????
Where r U
This yr all the parts of yhe World is celebrating eid on 10th april Wednesday except the two countries india and Bangladesh only .. ..
Today I have to disagree with Dr Saab about expressing some experts opinion that sighting may differ for 4 days also. The rotation of Moon around the Earth is very perfect so if at one longitude when the sunlit area of the Moon after no Moon night (amawas in India) begins, new moon may not be visible but at later longitudes ie in some other country, after few hours it becomes visible & definitely it will be visible on the next evening at the first longitude we started. The Moon"s speed around the Earth does not vary at all. The differences in moon sighting observations is only dependent on the scattered lighting in the sky near the ground or clouding. Thus maximum difference scientifically cannot be more than one day due to the position of no moon night & another day because of the starting point of new Moon.
Only Allah can open their hearts and minds.....
1 Saudi announces to its nation, not world.
2 Saudi always seem to announce first.
3 The sighting seems to be exclusive to Saudi.
4 No country before or after seems to have sighted when Saudi have claimed sighting.
5 No evidence from the Quran and Sunnah to follow Saudi.
6 Morocco has the best moonsighting establishment in the world. 272 points in their kingdom, every month with the naked eye.
7 By following Saudi, one has made redundant the verses and passages stated in the Quran and Sunnah.
Why is it that people are rejecting the clear evidence and instead following that which is not prescribed by the Qur'an and Sunnah?
What will it take for people to understand not to follow that which is doubtful, unreliable and unverified?
Only Allah can open their hearts and minds.....
okay now tell me. why india celebrates one day later as according to the timezone the moon should be sighted first in India then saudi.
Moon can become visible throughout various countries at different times.
Meaning, sometimes it can be visible in India first and sometimes it can become visible in south America.
@@exsalafi393 yeah then we should have fast early but in real time we fast 1 to 2 day later
@@adampaula1863
If Saudi sights the moon, then other countries too should sight the moon.
Why Saudi sights first and foremost is something to think about.
@@exsalafi393 i mean any mulem country see it first everyone should follow
@@adampaula1863
Problem is that there is a Muslim country that claims to sight the moon and that is Saudi.
The problem with them is that they claim to see new moon first and they do announcement two or three months of the year. Beginning of Ramadan, Eid and Haj dates.
The rest of the year they use astronomical data and no moon sighting is reported.
To sight the moon is the whole ummahs responsibility and to follow just one country would mean the death of the tradition of moon sighting everywhere else.
One thing for sure, to follow Saudi is doubtful and unverified.
One country does moon sighting like no one else, that is Morocco.
Every month they are have a system of sighting the moon with the naked eye from 278 different points throughout it's kingdom.
Nothing mentioned regarding sighting the moon in 2/185
Who is responsible to declare the sight of moon? I mean is there any responsibility to obey my mosque or nation or declaration of the world? Even if I see it then shall I follow it even the Imam is following some other days?
You should be well aware that Allah says in the Quran I made 12 months and each month cinsisting either 29 or 30 days only. So, if eid is on 1st for example and previous month is of 31st then the day of 31st DOES NOT EXIST IN ISLAMIC MONTH.. RIGHT THEN WHY DO WE FAST ADDING ANOTHER DAY TO THE MONTH?? Its simply because we say we follow lunar but actually follow the wrong solar calender. Thats why..
One by Alo
Why your comment is on top after two years
This video was 3yrs ago! But i have a question seriously, it’s ramadan 2020 and all other countries are still fasting, but 2ppl declared that they saw the moon and our country is celebrating eid today “Saturday/may 23” but we all have khilaf on that and in few masjids they said that it’s not eid but most of ppl in our country broke fast today, so what to do?? I’m confused! i didn’t break my fast yet, so pls help😶
Sister which country you belong to
I think it should be based on when you you or the area of people see the moon . Moon is like the mother to planet. Also the fasting should be at the day time .
But for Allah the whole world is one country.And why we should fast on same day for Arafat troughout the world? It is also based on moon sighting
I sent a question to a speaker to answer. You may also see it for your comments.
سوال-فرض کیا آپکی شادی 25 شوال کو پاکستان میں ھوئی تھی دوسال بعد آپ سعودی عرب آگۓآپنے شوال کا چانددیکھ لیا لیکن آپکی زوجہ محترمہ کو نظرنہ آیا چونکہ پاکستان میں تھیں 25شوال کوآپ نےفوراً مبارکباد دےدی لیکن محترمہ کا جواب آیا 25شوال توکل ھے آپکی شادی کا 25 شوال کون سا ھےایک دن پہلے یاایک دن بعد والا-یعنی زوجہ والا-
Tell me one thing "see moon and keep fasting by it" either the ayat is indicating for all ummah in world or to particularly indian, pakistanian, saudian individually?????????
Another question is
When it’s Friday in saudia what is the day in india??
Then tell me if all that logic goes to muslim ummah why you are separtaing logic to individual, solar time has difference but moon reflection start once in every month just people see it different corner at different time, here news is fact so as the ayat indicating whole muslim ummah so why one moon sighting and it's news is not enough??? Longitude and latitude is different things it's for solar salat timing but moon started it reflection so as per logic why you are not clarifying this????. And why still no argument and logic about one moon sighting????
He spoke about this already in the video, the moon can't be seen the same time in every single country, so you'd fast according to your own country's moon.
Agreed...
@@RhydianMerlin Agreed
I can understand people from world cannot have Ramadan and Eid on same day but can some one answer this please. I'm from UK and in UK people are having Eid and Ramadan on two different day's. How is it possible in the same country and divided people. Whom.do.we blame.
I am watching this a year late! I am also in the UK. The reason is because some Mosques follow Saudi mosques so when Saudi says they've sighted the moon, Ramadan is announced. If you are here in 2024, you will see that Saudi have seen the moon so will start fasting tomorrow (as will those mosques that follow them). We haven't seen the moon in the UK yet so it looks like we'll start fasting on Tuesday 12th March.
Come on Dr Zakir nike
Talk about India and Meka which is 2:30 India is ahead but never fast before SAUDI I mean DELHI
Salaam.w...Dr naik alhamdulilah for all ur work you have great talent mashallah and done and still do great things in our deen but in this case of the sightings of the 🌙 I do not except and this it is not the way of the prophet Muhammad ...the muslim ummah is one should all fast or make eid together. And as for scientists they are not the ones who brought the quraan and sunnah down ...this is all the politics of the west if u do not except its up to u but we will stand introit of Allah and we will ask him ... and i am not asking for any body's comments not in a rude way but i do not except this salaam.w.
Dr zakir naik , can the moon be reachable by man and physically walk on the moon ?
No. Moon landing was a hoax.
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2023: the moon has not been sighted in the UK and yet there are muslims who are doing Eid because it was sighted in Saudi Arabia and some doing Eid a day after as the the moon was not sighted.
Who is correct? Listening to Zakir, it seems like the second group is correct because they are searching for the regional moon and Zakir gave mamy evidence including quran and hadith according to this method whereas he mentioned one PERSONAL opinion of a scholar who thought the whole of the muslim ummah should follow saudi
What do you think, reader?
If one legitimate person sighted the moon and.makes aware of sighting.. then scholars should consider that sighting and accept the man's sighting... but the different schools of thought are with pride and stupidity that they wanna sight regionally.... there's one moon I'f it's sighted after maghrib then the other countries maghrib the next day then it's the only start of their calendar
Dr Zakir Naik says local sighting, you guys say global sighting, but Allah says that He has made the moon a sign for the months for us, so I think it is very incorrect to ignore the moon in your country and just go with the moon in another country. Very illogical right...
Your quotations ok, but you are adding territory on your own wish. All of the math habs excluding shafi, they say global sighting is enough for start Ramadan...
Only started happening in the last 50 years and with technology to be able to communicate, what did the people do before then?
*Is one sighting of the new crescent sufficient for the whole Muslim Ummah, or should each region depend on their own sighting?*
Most Muslim jurists have adopted the opinion that any sighting of the new crescent, anywhere in the world, is considered valid and acceptable for determining the beginning and end of the month of Ramadaan. These jurists include: Imaam Abu Haneefah, Imaam Maalik and Imaam Ahmad Ibn Hanbal. In other words, if the new crescent is seen anywhere in the world, it becomes obligatory for all Muslims to begin fasting, as the Prophet ﷺ said, "Fast after you have seen it [the new crescent] and end the fast [at the end of the month] when you see it." This hadîth is a general address directed to the whole Muslim Ummah. That is, if anyone sees the new crescent in any place, then this will be a valid sighting for all Muslims.
The sayings of the Muslim jurists regarding this matter:
(From the book Al-Fiqh-u-lislaamy-wa'delatah By Dr. Whbah Az-Zuhayli vol.2, p. 606)
The Hanaafi Scholars said 1 : "The difference of the moon sighting localities, and sighting the moon during the daytime whether before midday or after it are not considered in terms of determining the beginning or the end of the month. This is in accordance with the preponderant opinion in the Hanaafi School. It is also the opinion viewed by most of the Hanaafi scholars, and it is also the opinion followed in giving fatwas. Therefore, the people of the east are duty bound to follow the new moon sighting of the people of the west if it is proved that they have sighted the moon in a sound and binding way, such as when two men bear witness that they have sighted the new moon, or if they testify to the judgment of the Judge, or if the news of the sighting of the moon becomes well-known to everyone. This does not apply to the case when one reports that the people of such and such city have sighted the new moon, for this is considered a reported speech.
The Maaliki scholars said 2 : "If the crescent is sighted somewhere, people should fast everywhere, whether they live close or far away. People are not to consider in this regard the distance required for shortening the prayer nor the unity in sighting localities or its non-existence. Hence, fasting is obligatory for everyone who is informed about the sighting of the crescent if this sighting is reported by two reliable witnesses or a big group of people.
The Hanbali scholars said 3 : "If the crescent has been sighted in a certain locality, be it near or far, all the people are obligated to fast. The ruling of the one who has not sighted the crescent is the same as that of the one who has sighted it.
Is one sighting of the new crescent sufficient for the whole Muslim Ummah, or should each region depend on their own sighting?
Most Muslim jurists have adopted the opinion that any sighting of the crescent moon, anywhere in the world, is considered valid and acceptable for determining the beginning and end of the month of Ramadaan. These jurists include: the Hanafis, Maalikis, and Hanbalis. In other words, if the crescent moon is seen anywhere in the world, it becomes obligatory for all Muslims to begin fasting, as the Prophet ﷺ said, "Fast after you have seen it [the crescent moon] and end the fast [at the end of the month] when you see it." This hadîth is a general address directed to the whole Muslim Ummah. That is, if anyone sees the new crescent in any place, then this will be a valid sighting for all Muslims.
However Imaam Shaafi'i said that each locality should have their own sighting, and they are not obligated to adopt the sighting of another location. He used the following as evidence: Once one of the companions, Kuraib narrated that Um Ul-Fadl has sent him to visit Muaa'wia in As-Shaam (Syria). He said: 'I went to As-Shaam and accomplished the purpose of my visit, and while I was there, Ramadaan started; I had seen the crescent moon on Thursday night, and then went back to Madinah at the end of the month. Ibn Abbaas mentioned the crescent moon asking, 'When did you see the crescent moon?' I replied: 'We saw it on Thursday night.' Ibn Abbaas then asked: 'Kuraib, did you see it?' I answered: 'Yes! And the people had seen it, and they fasted, and so did Muaa'wia.' So Ibn Abbaas said: 'But we had seen it Friday night, so we will fast until we complete thirty days or until we see the crescent moon. I then asked: 'Aren't you satisfied with Muaa'wia's sighting and his fasting?' Ibn Abbaas answered: 'No, this is what the Messenger of Allaah had ordered us to do. [Recorded by Imaam Muslim, and others]
Notice from this previous hadeeth , that Kuraib arrived to Madinah at the very end of the month of Ramadaan. This is important because Ibn Abbass and the Muslims in Madinah didn't have the knowledge of Mu'awia's sighting, and therefore, they had no choice but to continue their fast based on their own sightings. However, in today's society, communication is highly advanced and fast. News of sightings in any place in the world can reach us before fajr time, right before we begin our fast. Nobody can claim today that had Ibn Abbass been informed of a sighting before fajr that he would not have followed it and fasted along with the people of As-Shaam. With that said, this previous hadeeth is not applicable to today's society, because rapid communication did not exist at that time as it does today.
The followers of Imaam Shaafi'I further specified the exact distance between locations saying: If the crescent is seen in a certain place, then the areas within this region are obliged to accept this sighting, however, the places outside of this region are not obliged. Anyone who lives within an area spanning 133.056 km from the original sighting location is obliged to follow that area's sighting. This distance was calculated by multiplying twenty-four units of distance by 5544 meters, which is the equivalent of 133.056 km. In other words, all those who live within this 133 km span, are required to follow the sighting.
After hearing this information about determining the beginning and ending of Ramadaan, we ask Allaah ﷻ to give us the health, strength, and Imaan to take advantage of the opportunities to worship during the month of Ramadaan and that He accept all of our righteous deeds. Ameen .
I ask Allaah ﷻ to protect us against the misdoings and bestow unto us sincerity in speech and action. Aameen
No dr. Naik, if that was only case then how would people fast in norway when the sun doesnt rise for 06 minths? That means if you say they should follow their neighbouring country then the same applies for day of arafat too that we follow the only day of arafat for siyam.. following neighbouring country and that following its another neighbouring country..
The scholars view that a new moon sighting (by 2 witnesses) in any one part of the world makes it compulsory for all Muslims of the world to start fasting and similarly a single new moon sighting in any part of the world makes it necessary for all Muslims of the world to end fasting.
Interpretation of the Hadith:-(When you sight the moon, you start fast……)
This is a general order for the whole Muslim Ummah. Interpreted as general statement for the world, when moon is seen any place over the world
If you follow one sighting which is always announced by Saudi first, that means you would kill the Sunnah of moon sighting throughout the rest of the world.
And don't forget, Saudi seems to sight moon in impossible conditions.
When you pray in your country, you follow the times accordingly to your locality, so no reason to follow some who can testify from a different part.
@@exsalafi393 Max time different between one country is less then 18 hours not one day. So how come some country start fast after 2 days
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Simple, visibility is key issue to starting of months.
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Dont compare solar system with lunar system, In islam when Magharib inter day change but in solar system there special date line which followed by World.
Which scholar brother?
These discussions are so tedious. "Which of the favours of your lord will you deny?" There is no doubt that one of the greatest gifts to mankind is our ability to "reason", which resulted in Islam's push for improving ourselves through education and scholarly works. This led to some of the greatest discoveries for mankind...again All favours of Allah... yet we deny. Use his favours, His gifts and we WILL have unity, well at least with the moon sightings... this would do away with the local vs Makkah argument and weather or not we see the moon. It astounds me that our educated scholars continue to debate something as trivial as this. Picking and choosing the Sunnah... Prophet used camels to travel around, Prophet carried a long staff, the prophet did many things due to the time and conditions... Do you really believe that the Prophet would not have used Allah's gifts to help unite his ummah. Through Islam and its contributions to the sciences we know the exact position, exact time,, exact phase of the moon for the next millennia and yet we squabble ... Sad times indeed.
That difference in moons appearance don’t have a difference more than 24 hours so technically all muslims should fast on same day
It’s just a matter of few hour difference with a maximum of 24 hours
is eid always on full moon
Im not Goat GOD
Follow local moonsighting as per the Sunnah and blindly follow the Saudis.
Stupidity at its extremity.
If July 31 is a Friday in Saudi Arabia, then July 31 in the United States will also be a Friday, despite the time difference between the two countries.
Similarly,
If the 10th of Dhū al-Ḥijjah is Yawm al-Jumu'ah in Saudi Arabia, then the 10th of Dhū al-Ḥijjah will be Yawm al-Jumu'ah in the United States as well, regardless of the time difference. This means that even though Americans may be asleep during Friday prayers in Saudi Arabia, they still observe Friday prayers on the same Islamic day.
It would be unreasonable and impractical to use a calendar that displays one day in the US and another day in Saudi Arabia for the same date.
The purpose of observing the hilal (crescent moon) is to determine the beginning of a lunar month, NOT to establish the starting point of a solar day. If the hilal is visible in the United States, the new lunar month should commence for all, including Mecca.
If the Hijri date represents a lunar day, then only we need to bother about visibility lines and worry about how Far East/west/north/south we can expand etc. No need to complicate the calendar by limiting the Hijri date to political borders. If you understand that a date is a figure to denote a day, then you need to find whether it is a solar day or a lunar day. Islamic dates are solar days, fasting starts at dawn(Fair), fasting ends at sunset(Magrib), and prayer times are arranged based on the sun's position. The role of the crescent is to find the solar day.
Nobody is demanding to unite Eid prayer time but demanding to unite Eid day. Time is based on the sun’s position. Eid prayer time will be different from location to location.
The Hilal may not be visible all over a state or all over a county. Only reports of the Hilal are enough to start the month. Sometimes, we cannot see the Hilal all over the country, earlier each city had separate dates due to a lack of communication and travel facilities, now we expanded from city to state, state to country, and country to continent
This is the only Q/A by Dr Zakir which I found that he is not correct in his explanations according to astronomy. How come we can see moon in Srilanka and perform Eid/ Fast but we dont see moon in india and we dont fast/ celebrate Eid? These countries are in same longitude. There are many examples like Malysia, China, Phillipines, Bangladesh they differ though they are to the east of Makkah and should see the moon. Disappointed!!
Moon grow older towards the west, so it is normal the chances to spot be on west much than east. His explanation seems so far ok.
But then that means there are multple laylatul qadr nights which doesnt make sense
That is why it is recommended to do good deeds on each of the last ten nights of Ramadan so we can achieve the Night of Qadr.
Global moon sightings k maamle m zakir nayak galat bole quran o sunnat ki roshni m firr se soncho saari dunya m ej hi din chand nazar aata hy apne aone time zone m
❌ Zakir Naik i challenge you that can you show a single country time different with more then 24 hours?! ⚠ 👎
Sorry brother as per this issue by Dr Zakir Naik Muslim never becomes a Globalised I am still worry about one caliphate of
Islam in current world.
He is confusing people with time and day.
The Muslims pray Jumua prayers at different times but all pray Jumua prayers on the same day.(yawm al Jumua).
Jumua is the weekly Eid of Muslims, if weakly Eid is over on the earth in 24 hours why does the annual Eid end up in multiple days(24 to 72 hours?
This is because the weekdays are determined by the sun and not the moon
@@nishameera3351 weekdays are solar days not lunar days.
There is no importance for a lunar day in Islam. Prayer times are based on solar. Fasting is based on solar day(dawn to dusk)
we already sent a letter to zakir naik to debate challenge. but he still didn't respond to us. according to quran and sunnah zakir naik is not a muslim. he is misguiding ummath. prophet said "my ummath will be become 73 sects. 72 sects will go to hell and only one jamath will go to heaven" all 73 sects are ummath of prophet but not muslims they are mushrik (read quran 30:31,32). muslims are the one jamath which only go to heaven. prophet said to "join with jamaathul muslimeen and there imaam" (buhari,muslim)
Ashfaaq Reshard please keep ur personal opinions to your self. You are not a scholar, and only Allah knows who is a true Muslim. So ur statement itself shows that u deeply lack knowledge and wisdom and u r not in any position to say who is Muslim and who is not. Further more, Zakir Naik always says he is just Muslim and does not label himself as part of any sect.
Ashfaaq Reshard Would you like to elaborate with evidences how Zakir Naik is not a Muslim?
Hahaha, brelvi and sense. Two rivals
DevilsAdvisor yes always and we already send a debate invitation to zakir naik which still no respond.
Hi. Sorry i do not trust saudis at all so will do sighting of moon in my own country. Thank you.
Same but i also don't trust my country ....