Ep. 192: Raoul Peck's "Exterminate All The Brutes" (w/ Raoul Peck) | Rumble with Michael Moore
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- Filmmaker Raoul Peck has made one of the most audacious films to air on American television. The documentary series titled "Exterminate All The Brutes" tells the brutally honest history of colonialism, genocide and white supremacy, and dismantles the Eurocentric framework through which history is normally taught. He joins Michael Moore for a conversation on how this film got made, and what it has to say about the power of ignorance, the preservation of privilege and how the only way to upend all of this is for each of of us to join the fight and never give up, no matter the consequences. Be sure to watch this profound and earth-shattering movie (now on HBO on demand and Max).
Watch "Exterminate All The Brutes" on HBO:
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...and let Michael know what you think: mike@michaelmoore.com
The three history books that Raoul Peck bases the film on:
"Silencing the Past: Power and the Production of History"
By Michel-Rolph Trouillot
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"An Indigenous Peoples' History of the United States"
By Roxanne Dunbar-Ortiz
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"Exterminate All The Brutes"
By Sven Lindqvist
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The other book Raoul mentions in the episode:
"Neither Settler Nor Native: The Making and Unmaking of Permanent Minorities"
By Mahmoud Mamdani
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Music in the episode:
"White Man" - Queen
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"Knockin' On Heaven's Door" - Wyclef Jean
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Michael I took your advice and watched "I am not your Negro" (before watching "Exterminate all the Brutes") ... every American needs to watch this film. James Baldwin was truly a scholar and a genius, but this film brings out his passionate respect and love for his fellow Black man and woman. Through it all, he shows an abiding love for his people, and a hopefulness for their future in America, while reminding us that we don't live in a "free" country until all are free to live and prosper without fear
We can never heal from these horrors until we face them. Thank you.
True. That goes for any and all illness and disorders.
Have been watching this series for the last few weeks here in England. It's a must watch and you have to stop people from trying to re write history. ✊
At first I thought u said- re white history
there are three listed in the tab MORE under title. but then where it says to watch the film-you click and go to it on hbo but there is some tab for curriculum or resourxes suggested by the director and dozens of books and films and docs he recommends...for free even if you don't rent the film
I appreciate these podcasts but I have to admit my faith in humanity is at an all time low. I’m in my sixties and have seen my fair share of human ignorance, arrogance and cruelty, never been capable of living in denial. However , we seem to be at a crossroads and the sadness I feel not for myself but for all the innocent children in this world is at times overwhelming. I so admire the people who keep fighting the good fight.
Same here.❤️
I guess you should be grateful you didn’t have to live through the Second World War then.
Yep, for sure, it's not easy, but we have to continue to fight the good fight.
I agree with u!
@@kimwalter8753 i don't think they're fighting any fight
This is an absolutely excellent documentary. It’s meaningful and well thought out. Thank you Raoul for making this informative documentary series.
I wish Rauol Peck would do a documentary on the real Cuba, because we are definitely being lied to about Cuba.
That might wakeup the people who have been so blind to reality for so long.
Michael, your guest is brilliant and thank you so much for having him on. I did-- before I started this podcast-- go back to "I am not your negro"and unlike a while ago WHEN I could NOT access it for free, I was able within seconds to bring it up. SO THAT'S GOOD TO KNOW for your followers. I think he's brilliant because though YOU WERE making a contrast between a potential White reaction versus the reaction of black people in South Africa at the time of their final freedom from control of the white minority --he pointed out THAT IT'S NOT quite like that. BEFORE he even spoke I was thinking of Mandela who was a powerful force to guide the nation toward reconciliation rather than retribution or punishment. I DON'T KNOW IF WE HAVE such a powerful person in America yet he clarified in great detail the organization that had been occurring prior to the huge change and continued on with the change. I love the way he got into the nitty-gritty of WHAT REALLY makes for a positive peaceful change in a culture that has systemic violence toward another race.
I would like to make ONE correction regarding your citing that females are a majority in the world: THEY HAVE been a majority since time began BUT recently, in the last maybe five years or so, they have become a minority due to the murder of women, usually by husbands or family who are punishing them for disturbing their patriarchy, if u will. AND so for the first time in the existence of this place we call our home-- Planet Earth-- women are NOW a minority and men are a majority. YOU might want to do a podcast on that.😚
Thank you Michael for bringing on this guest who actually can see so clearly what is occurring in Palestine. I have texted you several times in the comment section regarding this and if I've asked you to do further work on this issue. THE TIME HAS COME AND THE TIME IS NOW. THANK YOU
I saw this months ago. It was excellent...the most thought provoking, haunting, soul stirring film I’ve seen in a long time. Everyday with every news story I’m brought back to all the information I received and pushes me to research something new and question long held beliefs. I think it should be mandatory in HS and a course in every University.
Yes, it's a powerful educational tool on all levels of education starting in high school.
Thank you Michael for all your hard work. Love your guest ✌❤☮
"It's clearly a crisis of two things: of consciousness and conditioning. We have the technological power, the engineering skills to save our planet, to cure disease, to feed the hungry, to end war; But we lack the intellectual vision, the ability to change our minds. We must decondition ourselves from 10,000 years of bad behavior. And, it's not easy."
-- Terence McKenna
Hey Susie, we dont have a climate crisis, Mars has a crisis, the climate there never changes, do you understand? No climate-change, no livable planet.
Hey Chad! That's a mite condescending of you
@@jamesblanshard9468 I study geology, our planet has never been without climate-change, the proof is in our past, your political view point is moot.
@@chadsimmons6347 I see your point and that may be so but I suggest that we don't have to drive off a cliff if we have the means to turn it around.
Terwnce, yes but I'd tweak your idea to say-- Spiritual Vision👁👁 of the❤.
I really cannot wait to see this documentary. Excellent interview, Michael and Raoul. I Am Not Your Negro is one of my all time favorite documentaries. I saw it in the theater here in Lexington, Kentucky when it came out and was shook to the core. I expect that with this as well. Thank you both for your important works.
Michael, could you please post the books and authors mentioned at the beginning? I'm 73, and have the time now to read the history that's been hidden behind the European and American Myths. Thanks.
There's a book of the same title for which I believe this series is taken from. Exterminate All The Brutes by Sven Lindqvist is available on Amazon and other places I'm sure. Definitely get it!
Start with the works of Baldwin.
adding to the reply above, the other two books are: Michel-Rolph Trouillot “Silencing the Past”, and Roxanne Dunbar-Ortiz “An Indigenous Peoples’ History of the United States”
This is a sidebar comment, but I care deeply about social justice and as a result CZcams gets the idea that I must be a POC and directs its advertising at me accordingly which irks the hell out of me bc of its overriding assumption that only POC care about this issue and I am not a POC.
My favorite line from the ever ignorant Ann Coulter is "I am not a descendant of immigrants, I am a descendant of settlers" LMAO
She usually says this as she goose steps around her estate.
JFC. The word, Ann, would be “colonizers” that you’re looking for. You’re welcome. 😂🤦♀️ Sadly, Ann Coulter is yet another delusional, in denial white colonist and supremacist American. 🙈
Essentially that's true though, as there has to be a government to have a policy on immigration. There was no government here at the time.
@@lenblack1462 oh there was; you forget indigenous people had systems of government in place. They were just too nice to colonizing immigrants who would’ve died had it not been for their immense charity. Plus your comment is really just splitting hairs and thus moot. #irrelevant
@@KC-gi9ol many natives were hostile to the immigrants....does that make them xenophobic? Also many native tribes attacked other native tribes and took there land....stop infantilizing the natives as they did many violent acts to each other and to the “immigrants” and they had battles with those immigrants and lost ! Thats war....many natives had slaves....they werent some infantilized version in your simple black and white disney version of history
Thank you Michael for this podcast and doing your part to bring this brilliant series to your followers. My thanks to Mr. Peck for all of your films. "Exterminate all the Brutes" should be shown in every high school U.S. History class.
The Young Karl Marx is brilliant film, available for free on Amazon Prime Video. All should watch. Thanks, Michael.
Thanks for recommending this movie. It was hard to watch and very enlightening. I needed that!
How come no one ever talks about the Native Americans and how they were all but exterminated in this country?
because it would show that genocide is us
I believe he did
Canada is just (minisculingly) starting to deal with this, re the 215 children’s deaths in one residential school. I watched the American media on this story, shaming Canada’s history, which they rightly should, and yet not one mentioned that the US had these schools too, over 500 of them. Not one reference to USA’s own history!
Great question. Please do all you can to watch "Exterminate All the Brutes." It is all you need to know and you will be moved and changed. You will never be the same. You will have your question answered and you will promote this documentary series to Native Americans. Because of this documentary series I am not who I was before watching it. Native Americans are PROMINENTLY FEATURED IN THIS DOCUMENTARY SERIES.
I watched this Doc before listening to this podcast Michael. That was powerful stuff.. I think religion plays a MUCH larger part than most people want to point out. The thing which keeps repeating in my mind is the advertisment for the corrupt "newsmax" where they tout proudly "it's our country, we conquered it." We have problems in this country..
I agree with your position on religion.
But from what I’ve read…
Man gave us religion.
God gave His Word.
When man didn’t like what God said,
he changed it.
Then blamed it on God.
@@geekmeee Demonstrate the truth of any of it? Everybody has been waiting for a long, long, long, long time. If "god" needs to have ANY word he can come on down especially now with everyone so connected and say so instead of using languages that died out only to be translated much later and being THE universal crowned champ winner in the best game of being totally undetectable hide and seek. And which "god" since there are thousands of religious variants? How arrogant to think yours is the only one. The best solution is to please keep your religion to yourself. Believe what you want, but keep it out of our government.
Religion. The mental drug of the masses. To have control over the masses, have them all believe the same thing. "Discover" a planet with alien life force. I will bet you, qll the religious with their beliefs will be there among the 1st. Hey, its what they do! Selling and converting the native of the place they" discovered" to submit to a higher power so that they can be controlled. Imagine that!!! Makes you wonder, it does me, who is that devil people talk about. Are they talking in the 2nd person which is them ?
This documentary gives sense to my life and breeds hopefulness, A google map on how to walk without hitting a land mine because you know where they are. Thank you Mr Peck!
Great conversation- thank you for doing this show, we need more content like this with inspirational substance and truth!
Mr. Moore what an eye and mind opening is to hear your and your very respectful guest, thank you
For all that you do to inform us
Regarding the real true.
God Bless you
100 years for the Tulsa massacre.
Thank you, gentlemen! I am enthralled and energized, Great Work!
Opening music is Queen playing the Brian May song "White Man" from Day at the Races. Nice touch.
This documentary is a blessing! In this day and age, we need documentaries that teach and show the facts that can be proven from history. I pray that this documentary will spark intrigue, open mindedness, and a desire for people to further read, learn, and research these topics! I firmly believe that documentaries serve as a way to encourage people to build on their curiosity by seeking books to expound on the knowledge given in these documentaries. As a history teacher, I'm always excited about these things and I hope that this wealth of information opens people's eyes to the history that is intentionally disregarded. This is truly spectacular! Thank you, brothers Raoul Peck and Michael Moore! 👍
Thank you Michael! I am a big James Baldwin fan and excited to watch Peck's films!
Michael, hello from Glendale California. Great guest!
48:22 "Superiority makes you fragile" - Raoul Peck
#MicDrop
So important to remember how the inkas were easily conquered due to their excellent roads and comunication systems. grettings from Peru
Thank you both!
"Superiority makes you fragile."
Could I know the link where to watch the docu.if not for HBO
This documentary left such an impact on me and so did Raul Peck's narration. I watched the moment it was available 2 years ago and I'm still haunted -in the way the Truth is haunting. The way Mr Peck brings himself into history - reminds me to do the same.
Michael, I live in Germany and watched Raul's film on German television. I kept thinking this is a film that should be seen in America. Only happy to discover that it was indeed broadcast in the states. I am a retired university professor and I sure as hell wish I could have shown Raul's film in my class. By the way, the Germans have made a feature length movie about Karl Marx which has been broadcast in prime time on German TV. It stars Mario Adorf.
This is magnificent-I was once given detention for questioning Columbus during a history lesson I asked my tutor: “how can you discover something that is already there?” and still to this day I qstn - who the F*** is Columbus 👊🏽 this is the underlying problem the cause of segregation, racism, slavery, apartheid, ethnic cleansing, genocide and more the list has expanded because we have alm been educated to believe the lies - I am proud to say that I questioned this when I was 10yrs OH My Days growing up in UK 🇬🇧 with mixed & full black parents…. I shall never believe the lying history that I have been force fed 🧘🏾♀️
Going to watch it with my Mama who is 80 she has advocated for our rights before she was a mother 🙏🏽
Columbus is America's Hitler. And in the city of Wilkes Barre, Pa. There's statues all over of him. And a celebration of his day and parades. I, SMH!! you can tell a city mind set, by what the people believe in. Or how far back in time they stopped moving forward. Ya.
Let us take a moment to be thankful Raoul has done so much good for his home country Haiti and that self rule by the Haitan people has been a blessing.
Well done and thank you Mr. Raoul Peck. Mr. Moore, keep doing what you're doing. Thank you very much
I couldn't believe I saw part of this documentary in a waiting room at a VA hospital. I went home later and watched the whole series. This documentary goes through the "age of exploration" or "exploitation" where European nations carved up Africa and set to exploit them for their natural resources. Eventually we get to the United States, and how they systematically enslaved the Africans to work the land, as they take the land, little by little from the native Americans. CRT? Oh man. They need to show this film to every high school student in America. And it should be mandatory viewing.
The only things I can watch are free on CZcams (thanks for Planet of the Humans). Raising awareness about these great works of Raoul Peck is important. He is so correct when he says we cannot solve our issues until we can acknowledge the truth of our past. All humanity has to do that before loving and positive collective movement can happen.
Our social security numbers are used for collateral by Feds when borrowing from entities. One of the reasons for giving newborns a number (sixteen years before they are expected to begin working and paying income tax).
After hearing this, I watched "I am not..." and then this documentary. Enjoyed isn't quite the word, but it worked the intended magick and I can't go back to where I was.
IDK if anyone else had this issue but my phone service disappeared, like blinked out/offline, twice so far during this podcast on CZcams & I'm barely 1/3 of the way through...🤔
Haiti is still being punished by old colonial powers because this small country was the only one in western hemisphere that fought back European settlers driving them away via popular and successful slave revolts
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Great Director and information that is needed to be poured out so people can understand each other in a better way !!!✅
Arrogant ignorance.
ندعم بقوة مايكل مور Michael Moore من أجل الحفاظ على ارضنا من جشع "الحيوانات المفترسة"
Shukran
Thanks man. I love this series.
We just keep getting pounded.
Well we earned it
I must see this documentary "Exterminate All the Brutes". It sounds like a fascinating film.
Peck is brilliant. I cannot wait to see the film.
Thank you 💕
POWERFUL PROGRAM!
Thank you for this interview. Mr. Moore how can I put this information out there? I have been trying ever since I watched this documentary series. I believe that there isn't more important information out there for everyday people than this. I am not the same person I was before I watched this documentary series. I have put the word out on all of my social media platforms. I'm not getting any traction. So, that is my mission. What can I do to broadcast this documentary series and the information contained within? I am of the poorest in the nation and do not have much means in order to carry out this mission.
He should make a documentary about the history of hemp and weed too. Slaves in America were just forced to pick cotton. They cultivated and manufactured hemp into clothes, rope, food and medicine.
X-Files.
Vampires (greed) who suck the joy out of life have joined the zombies who eat the futures of their children.
Zombie Apocalypse is here and happening now.
The alien monsters are desperate to control a darkship called the Whitehouse. Because working in the dark to suck the joy out of life and destroy the planet is the only way thst the loveless, lifeless parasites can survive and thrive.
Unlike earthling poets, artists, musicians, mystics, human beings and creators of joy...the clueless counting corpses can't create harmony (real intelligence) because vampires (greed) are far worse than stupid. The loveless, lifeless parasites are ignorant (dead).
💛💛💛
They need to make some big budget action movies about the first cops to have jobs being slave patrols in America and another movie about the Haitian revolution of 1790. Those types of movies will revolutionize this world to change in a more positive direction.
It's extremely difficult to watch
I felt the same as I did after watching Schindler's List. Difficult but essential.
Now that the internet is here to distract people nobody will see the full documentary on HBO.
Nobody knows if before people came to America crossing the Bering sea , there already were people living so they could be considered as the ones that discovered America
So Much Massacre and Human being lost .... Haitian are natural story Tellers ....
Mr Moore ...... Thanks ... I didn't watch yet... inshallah... I will
"There is no such thing as Alternative Facts", this is some documentary.......
Exterminate == "depopulate".
Which is going on throughout EU right now:
"GWO - Goyi Go strategy starter pack" (find it on reddit)
Be careful what you wish for.
Harvard:The American conspiracy.
Very apropos considering all the graves of children they are finding at former residential schools in Canada. Soon to be coming to the USA too
At 8 minutes Peck says the Haitian Revolution contributed to ending slavery in the US. According to some US historians, when the French fled Haiti, they went to Cuba and later arrived in Louisiana to setup slave industries. Enslaved people could not read and knew nothing of the Haitian Revolution. White Americans read about Haiti in horror. That led to more oppressive actions against enslaved Americans with brutal displays of sadism. The Haitian Revolution only worsened conditions for enslaved Americans. Throughout the documentary Peck gets too many things wrong about Black America. It's in that appearance that it seems he co-opts the struggle of black descendants of pre-Civil War Americans. Then misrepresents with misinformation. There's erasure in that strategy. It may not be his intent to misinform, but that's the end results.
“Throughout the documentary Peck gets too many things wrong about Black America.” What’s right about the condition of the so-called, Black America?
“It's in that appearance that it seems he co-opts the struggle of black descendants of pre-Civil War Americans. Then misrepresents with misinformation.“ Please clarify the misinformation.
You make patently false statements and then make conclusions on those lies. Black slaves didn't know how to read. A blanket statement that is not true. Perhaps you should do more study. This is what was taught to you by some public school. Shame. Too many things wrong is another blanket statement without basis. This entire documentary is DOCUMENTED FACT!!!! I have not heard one person say something regarding the claims you make. Raoul Peck supplied the reference materials and even put some of them in the documentary. What have you done to support your claim?? It is people like you who hold back the world from reconciliation and truth so that we can provide our future generations the ability to tackle real problems in the future collectively. What is misrepresented? What is misinformation? You just can't handle the truth and that is okay.
Of course, "misrepresentation." There are two ways to that.
1. It takes one who has done it to know it
2. Ya, I can see why someone would throw water on it. The truth hurts. You can always tell whose side one is on when one is trying to protect a secret.
My point on that comment, is I am sure that there was fact check going on. And not from the conquerors view. Not from the whitewashed.
When I do my research I look beyond the recommended story, I look at from all sources and written witness. The ones no one recommends or are obscured, the ones they put way in the back or the bottom. Because they don't want that known. They just want to push their agenda. Its in those books and letters and writings you will find the gold nuggets. The equilibrium. Because the time line and the dots will then connect. NOT THE NARRATIVE OF WHAT THEY WANT YOU TO BELIEVE!!
EXAMPLE: The Beatles sang a song with the line about Chinese Mao. How many people wondered about that!? The horrific story behind that name and face???
Conclusion: before saying MISINFORMATION. back it up with your facts, truth and the work behind that conviction.
Last, why do I still hear a narrative with the story about Machu Pichu that these people disappeared?!? And that there is no way those blocks of stones were not mam made. IMPOSSIBLE they say. That has all the hallmarks of whitewashed!!! Discreting another race, incomprehension that they were able to do that. Its so insulting!!! WTF?!? This!!! The AUDACITY to put it out to children to believe?? But in truth and fact, also from the same race who truly are nothing more than pagans, with the fantasy, delusions and out of touch with reality. Santa Claus, Easter bunnies, tooth fairies, and then scratch their heads why their own offspring are mentally deranged and morally depraved. Am I lying? Or are you?? Need a mirror? Go to the river, while your at it, clean your self you been down and dirty long enough!!
"Exterminate" has such a....specific connotation, doesn't it?
Why so cryptic?? Why don't you just say what it is you mean? I THINK I know what you are saying but I could be dead wrong. So why leave people wondering. UGH.
@@adrienreality597 Wow so late...
Raoul Peck, the guy is just Brillant!!!
Happy Memorial Day 🥳 🌺 people!
Nice polemical re exterminating brutes, but i would use it to switch to sonorous sounding Restorative Justice from our oxymoronic persisting folly of Retributive Justice, which only perpetuates the cycle of violence. Particularly with its Truth for Reconciliation conflict resolution process. Definitely worth looking into & advocating for.
1st one to make a comment in words and English! 😂
Bravo 🎉
@@chantaln6843 bowing.
What was the comment?
@@MrDeicide1 Bowing~
@@MrDeicide1 a lotta people if they get to a story first on CZcams, they say, "1st". Some channels have millions of viewers. This channel should!
Aw hell 2 to the Know Michael. Can’t bear to watch. Haven’t been able - 2 yrs - to agree w/ your virtue signaling WokeConDuh BS. Ever heard, lately, of Mollie Tibbets? Crickets. Aiiight
Holy shit, mike's projection of racial hatred is hilarious
This is honestly the most biased documentary I have watched in my entire life
Is the myth biased too?
Welcome to the uncomfortable realm, where the lines between truth and fantasy can become increasingly blurred and reality painful.
@@trevsmith5825 Where is the conquest by the Arabs of all the indigenous populations and spreading their religion? And so many other places where that happened? Why selectively pick just Europe and the US?
@@luperamos7307
Yes. The Arab Muslim East and West Africa slave trade began many hundreds of years before the other Europeans. Arab people were just as diabolical in the slave trade business of African people as their Jewish and Christian brethren. Pain and suffering, is pain suffering. As is, dead is dead.
Christian and Jewish European people also used their religion to dehumanize African human beings. And the other Indigenous peoples they encountered to justify the oppression, their slave trade enterprise and self-invented white supremacy status.
Why black people willing continue to participate and pay homage to the Judeo-Christain-Islam religion is mind-boggling?
@@trevsmith5825 Because they have been indoctrinated for hundreds of years, generation after generation. But the fact that this guy who made this documentary won't even mention other events in world history and has such a strong bias is what I am referring to here.
Trump 2024!
The disturbing confidence of ignorance is what you represent. Remember, 'Superiority make you fragile.' You probably can't understand. Shame.