How Pros Get Great Guitar Tone
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- čas přidán 8. 04. 2024
- In this clip, Tim Pierce takes us behind the scenes of his studio to explain how he achieves great guitar tone.
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Watching Tim sitting in the cockpit of his amplifier spaceship always brings a smile to my face.
Agreed, with a Matchless head and a Hiwatt head awaiting application ...
❤ Love your description! 😊
I was just thinking he looks like the pilot of a star ship 🤣🤣🤣
🙏
I would sleep in there
I've been blessed with ears that cant tell the difference between this rig and my $100 practice amp.
Yeah it’s funny how our minds make us think things are supernatural
😂
I was Tim's tech for session work for a few years. His portable rig was a microcosm of his home set-up. I learned a lot from the work he did with Rob Cavallo. He often ran through a single Bogner 1x12 with a V-30 and a hot plate. He always knows what sound the artist and/or producer he works with is looking for. That's how he got classified as "in demand".
Funny isn't it how Hot Plates today are considered to be pretty much unusable junk, but back in the day they got onto a lot of very fine sounding recordings.
I would really like a see a "How Pros Get Great Tone" where they actually show them dialing it in. What is the signal path? What are the tone settings? etc. We never really saw how he got the tone.
If it sounds good it sounds good, if it doesn't, it doesn't. It doesn't really matter how you derive your tone.... digital, analogue, clean pedal platform, gained up, roll on roll off, there are a near-infinite number of ways to dial it in. You have to work with what you've got, there is no secret formula.
@@allancrow134 And yet, I bet you can still learn a great deal by seeing the pros run through how they get their's. It doesn't have to be a formula.
Its about the philosophical approach, not the settings… if you think its the settings you missed the point. Its about a high headroom amp with dynamics and blending speakers AND microphones with cascading gain staging at the preamp. Tim is looking at every part of his signal chain to get the tone so by the time its printed its record ready
totally agree, I'd love some more methodology and thinking. Like "I start at 666, then try to adjust the bass by listening for this" or just some basic 'here is what I'm listening for' advice and 'here's how I'll adjust the settings to get there'
Have them build a sound from scratch so you can see how they prioritize their tone.
Tim pierce is absolutely one of my heroes and an inspiration for me. So many people love his music and dont even know who he is. He is a legend for sure and belongs in the music hall of fame.
Tim + Rick: an awesome conjunction of the best music wisdom YT has to offer, distilled and concentrated into one room. I love it. Tim always makes it sing.
Their courses are top-notch too. I mean, I've been playing a long time and I still get a ton out of both. Obviously one's more theory and one's more technique, but you won't go wrong with them for the price.
Tim is like a compendium of institutional knowledge about everything guitar. The amount of actionable advice I've watched from Tim is incredible, from how to play to what to use to the attitude to bring. Just a treasure.
Lol 2 min in, all you need is a 1967 Marshall PA head that belong to PRS and Eric Johnson, a Marshall 4x12 with a mixture of rare cones, individually micced with rare and priceless mics. All sent through a million dollar interface starship control room and into Protools. Man I can’t even afford protools lol
So all I have to do is get a vintage Plexi and some outboard Neve gear. Helpful! Do you have Paul Reed Smith's number? And the winning lottery numbers?
Anybody can get great tone if they play long enough.
@@bigrig4385true, after sixty years I'm able to get good tone straight into my Katana fifty mk2.
And a friend who can make you custom products. 😉
Always a great conversation between these two. Thank you guys.
I always immediately watch Tim Pierce collab videos when I see 'em. Great stuff!
I can't get enough of watching (and listening) to Tim talking and playing.
Great video. I played through a PODGO and now a Fractal FM3. I enjoy watching videos like this and then seeing how close i can get to the tones i like.
Great video! I always enjoy Tim's stories on his channel
Tone is in the hands. For most rock, blues, country or pop music all you need is a single channel tube amp with reverb and an overdrive pedal. If you can’t make that sound good you need to keep practicing.
Run a Les Paul through a Marshall (tube), Boss SD1 OD and some discreet delay and reverb and you have it. I think too many people are overthinking it. Don't hide behind effects, practice!
Agreed ^^, simple is better for 90% of what you need. The rest is for fun and experimentation. I just like a 15-20 watt Tube amp, Spring Reverb, Delay in the loop and the OD pedal of your choice, with a Wah if you need one. Done.
If someone can't play a gig with a guitar, Deluxe Reverb [and to be generous a boost].... they got work to do at home.
Could listen to you guys all day! Always fascinating and a huge wealth of information for the masses...
Fabulous. Tim, Tom, Rick. Beat that!
Rick Beato + Tim Pierce = BLISS!
Its amazing how much nuance you can actually hear on a modern cellphone. I could 100% hear the differences Tim was sharing. Ofc I would rather pop some headphones in and get the lows too, but I digress.
Thx Rick love you n Tim chatin. Educational always
I want to thank you both.... you two are my top two CZcams guitar channels, but Rhett and Robert are very close, alone with Mary.... thank you for all you do...
Bravo from a drummer that can entirely appreciate all that! Love me some killer guitar sounds!
Amazing!! Having said that, Tim could play through an old school transistor radio and sound great.
I have a 10 watt Marshall practice amp, and the sound is great. and for my bass guitar I have a Vox Pathfinder bass 10. For my bass I have a great amplifier, but for guitar I prefer a Marchall.
a super amplifier where there really is none better.
Excellent video.
LOVE IT TIM !!!!! 🎸🎶
Inspired by you, Rick, Thommy and lots of others I went back into my guitar play which honestly was ideogolically a refuse of effets. NoFX ain't a band name. So, expering the instrument again I got some cheap but nice pedalls experimenting with tone. Oh boy. I got 3 guitars, one accoustic and finding tones for each of it is just a mad project on the new built pedal board containing a compressor, a boost, eq, rev, del and some overdrives and a tuner. Man this is endless. ❤
I remember owning 3 amps at 1 time. Mesa dual rec, small Marshall 20 watt & an old ampeg amp I used for my Korg DDD5 drum machine. Now I model everything cause I’m the best guitar player in my bedroom!!!!!
Tim in his cockpit, always fun. Coolest guitar studio to pop into and check stuff out.
Just subscribed. Great content.
Greeeeeat video. Cheers from Brazil
Tim is a super legit tone master.
Another great informative and entertaining video from Rick B. If you're not subscribed to both of his channels, you're missing out on some of the best music related content on youtube.
Very nice setup! The only thing I’d want to add in there is an old 30W or 50W Orange box - I’ve loved those sounds for almost 50 years!
I love that cockpit Would love to make one myself
Ask Tim when launch time is and when we can join him in his wonderful amp and gear space ship. ✌️🎸
I wouldn’t even know how to turn the light on in Tim’s room😫
Awesome 💯
I'm just a mere vocalist, but God that guitar and his rig sounds magical
Gotta do one of these but for bass!
"I like to be the last guy to find the thing" I can certainly relate to that. :)
Very nice my friend !
Beato 2 is the Beato 1 , of Beato 2s !!! ❤
What is your thought on the Blackheart amps?
I have a Handsome Devil 15 stack and I really love it.
It makes a great pedal platform even without it having an effects loop.
Love,
Peter
Rick that's cool. I just bought a Helix modeling pedal. That is why. I can't afford all that gear but I can get SO CLOSE with one pedal. That would be something I'd like to hear you discuss. We've agreed digital is ok for recording (mostly). I see so many pros using modeling pedals. As a live sound guy I LOVE them as it makes my job so much easier. What do you think of them?
Omg i thought i was on tims channel… when you showed up rick i got such a fright
The next best thing to hanging out with two legends...
Tim is a GAS!
All the late 60's Marshall Plexis are the peak of rock guitar tone. The PA system Plexis heads made with 4 channels for mixing vocals/bass/guitar/accordian are maybe even better than the 100W plexi that Hendrix made famous. All these amps can go from clean country to hard rock distortion with out any pedal, just by using the guitar volume knob.
All the vintage Marshall plexi vary from 50-100-200Watts of tiube power. The 100W+ ones are arguably the loudest guitar amplifiers ever made. Hendrix, Page, early Kiss, Free/Bad Company played these live. The sheer amount of volume and air pushed these can attain with a full stack of 2 4X12 speaker cabinets will literally make your pants legs move 10ft away. Just one of these full stacks played at full in an arena concert setting does not need to be mic'd for the floor audience a first outside deck to here it while the rest of the band is coming thru the main PA system. In fact, that is how Hendrix and those guys used them.
This just came out while I was watching the Who has the most recognizable guitar sound? video from a while back, that's a pretty good segue there.
Get a $20k signal chain. Got it! 🤣
Kidding of course. I love your content, and naturally anything with Tim is gold!!
Nice!
Tim's so cool
Very cool
the secret to tims sound, 100k dollars in amps, pedals, effects, 1073 mic pres, compressors , noise gates, expensive ribbon and condensor mics, limiters, eqs, and ability…thats all lol
Did Tim buy that from Ryan Fowler's in Towson, MD recently? They had that PRS/EJ amp for sale for $13k.
Hey Rick, have you ever had Kenny Wayne Shepherd on for an interview?? I'm fascinated by how Why We Cry and Pearl Jam's Yellow Ledbetter sound so much alike in the opening and closings!
Perhaps sitting this close to your gear with a guitar should be mentioned. There’s a good chance of getting a lot of hum. When you turn sideways it can be heard, facing certain directions reduces the noise. There always seems to be an ideal spot in the room where the noise is almost eliminated, distanced from whichever piece of equipment is causing it. The more gain cranked, the more line noise, and single coil pickups themselves can really highlight it. But I’m sure Rick has experience, especially considering Chris Green’s use of single coils and gain. Noise gates can reduce some of this, EQ filters, but compression can bring it back, especially during sustaining phrases. This is a good reason to track separately so it can still be worked with during mixing. It depends when and where in the song or mix. Another important aspect is feedback, having the guitar near the playback speaker and the level of the speaker. I think being loud is good for the ‘tone’ because it feels much more live, and the guitar behaves similar to the garage days. Another unspoken factor is mic preamps can be pushed into distortion themselves, with input gain. So if you have low gain amp sounds, they can sound more on edge just using the mic pre’s distortion, at times. I see quite a few mic preamps always in Tim’s setup, so he has numerous mics downstairs. I think these are great for adding bottom end as well, providing they’re not causing a phase issue. Anything that helps with the in-room, cabinet sound.
The delay thing was a game changer for me
I was literally just thinking to myself, "self, this is a recent video upload and I see some of Tim's amps behind him, I'm going to comment and ask just what that dual set of inputs Marshall he has in the background of his videos is", and lo and behold, it's literally answered in the first few seconds lol
I would be curious to know if Tim was to choose a small 4 pedal fly rig, with a Ir for foh. what would he choose.
Thia ia great but i'd love to see how you would do this with amp sims in the box for us bedroom producers.
This guitar/amp setup immediatly wants to start "What's Next To The Moon".
w.w.w. as good as it gets
I love how Tim nerds out, and Rick encourages him. 🤣🤣🤣
Is it the pickups of that guitar that you can hear every note or the amp. ?
i have no idea what he's talking about, but it sounds great
Nice
If memory serves me correctly, didn't Paul Kossoff used a Marshall PA head with Free?
64 Bassman has a tube rectifier I believe, after that Leo went to SS rectifier
J Mascis uses the same amp!
I see a couple of UA Pedals too
Beloved gear nerds ❤️❤️❤️
Rick needs to get Tom Bukovac in for an interview . One of the best session players in Nashville.
Best in the world I would say. And Tom never asks to smash the like button or subscribe on his channel. Gotta love Uncle Larry
Hearing people talk about tone is like hearing people talk about wine to me. Sometimes you just gotta shut up and enjoy it.
Tone is more important than skills!
I’d love to know what monitors he hears all that through.
I mean, yeah it sounds great, but not everyone has the means to buy a vintage Marshall or two and pair it up with vintage cabs and a rare mic. How about a video on getting a good sound on a budget?
Get a helix and get to work 🤣
Tone is mainly in the fingers, pretty much irrespective of gear?
There are literally hundreds of thousands, if not millions of videos about how to get great guitar sound on a budget. Should anybody who happens to have the means to buy expensive gear not make any videos about it?
I cant afford a Ferrari that goes 200 mph, but I still enjoy watching videos of them racing around.
Okay but why would a video titled “how the pros get their tone” by a be budget tone tutorial for broke boys? Wouldn’t would it.
Right? What are we millionaires?
It’s taken me years to get in the habit of using the guitar volume knob to change my tone.
Nice!
Where’s the rest of it?
😂🎉
Uncle Tim in the Rockpit
Didnt he use a Sound City 50R prior to the Hiwatt?
I need a video explaining how he gets in/ out of that cockpit 😂
I had one of those PA heads. I couldn't make it sound good, but I think it needed work.
Which Brand /is the Goldtop guitar , ???
It's Cool
Heritage guitars custom build I think he's made a video about it on Tim's channel
Honest recommendation to name the channel Rick Beatwo.
That is quite the little nook he has there, lots of knobs, buttons, pedals, all within reach. That would be fun to sit in that chair for a day or week or month or two. Loved the custom glass and Tube amp, like a gaming amp.
Tim, have you tried the Boss Katana? It's a close second...
Louder is better. I listened to Zoom Club by Budgie in the truck today and it just doesnt sound good quiet. Loud, it rocks. It moves you to emotion.
Tim is a professional guitarist. All of this are tools of his trade. Just like a top mechanic they've got the right tool for everything they may encounter within their imagination...it's not supposed to be for everyone...
Plot twist. It's in his hands the whole time. Doesn't matter what the gear is. His hands, intention behind the playing, touch... he could play through almost anything and sound really consistent. The gear is about 10% of the equation
What glasses do you wear?
Ray Bans?
tim pierce looks like my guitarist friend named choy 😁
problem is, through my tiny, tinny PC monitor speakers (yeah I know I could use headphones) it all sounds the same. So I will need to take your word for it.
The Amp Fort.
Tim and his cockpit of sounds and tools 🫣✈️
Tim is the David Attenborough of music.
Piles of money
Wait for other guys to do the work and find the cool things….😂 That is how I put together all the components of my gigging organ rig.
Great sounds Tim.
That's not how the pros get the ultimate tone. That's how the super nerd gear addicted pros get it! 😂😂😂 Amazing. Wish I had an island of happiness like that ❤
very nice..but unfortunately, most of us can't access or afford amps like these..
I think Tim meant to say Sony C-80.