The Secret Of Passive EQs
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This channel, and Marc is really spreading gold left and right - thanks
not being able to afford one :D
I once got sarcastic with my EQ and ended up with a passive aggressive mix! Cheers Warren!!
@@squoblat 😂 I feel you bud
I actually like producing into a bit of passive EQ on the master bus - Bax, Pultec, etc. Deals with the midrange muddiness early and makes boosting mid-range audibility more intuitive. Can easily hear what instrumental parts have low end and top end to remove to make room for vocals, drums, bass, etc. It's made my workflow faster.
.... “I don’t really care...I just care what it does to my music”. That’s what I’m talkin bout!
Why could I not stop worrying about that candle burning the tape? Haha
Great video, thanks!
It's crazy how big a difference a few little twist of a couple knobs can do to the feel you get from the music as a whole.
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The bottom end trick is worth the price of admission alone. Being able to dial in massive beef while perfectly controlling mud and flab is amazing.
I learn so much from Mark he's just so smooth and can explain things clearly.. Thanks for Produce Like A Pro
He was a guest speaker at a school I attended.
I am a simple man, I see anything Marc, I click and watch... So much smooth knowledge shared
@@abelobiriayettey5985 😂😂😂 I feel you
That depth at the low end is amazing. Top end boost is also super smooth.
Pultec is a classic for a reason. From 1951 to now, still top of the game.
Love this video! Thank you and thank you Warren! Most channels would never dare put another producer on their channel because of competition. You have a teacher's heart and we are all truly grateful!
Would have been great if you would had bypassed the insert from DAW as the sound still passes through the tubes in ‘bypass’ setting in these pultec clones.
I mix through summing here so taking it out of hard line insert would pull it completely out.
I came to watch Atticus the dog sleeping on the couch. i also learned about EQ's too.
He also seems pretty passive but I bet he lets Marc know when there's too much 30k
I got to the stage where every time a video with Marc gets uploaded, I've already liked it 30 seconds in.
You're great man!
As you switched on the eqs, my jaw dropped. The lows are good but for me it's in the top end it shines, it is bringing so much more detail in a subtle and sweet sounding way, everything seems more alive and more real. Fantastic for songs like this. Thanks so much for another great video Marc, loving it.
More alive and real is definitely a great way of putting it!
I am constantly astounded by the general recording and mixing level of your material. The instruments and vocals are just so incredibly well captured. Thank you!
Money makes ish happen!
Man, when you put those guys in, its like the sun rises! I often have this feeling with hardware stuff, sometimes even if its not really doing anything, but its open the mix.
That snare sound is fantastic.
Presence in a mix is like a secret ingredient. All the character becomes defined. Thanks Marc!
Damn! The Audioscapes are one fourth the price of Pultecs! I can't imagine the Pultecs are four times "better" . . . .
Woah! I thought they were Pultecs. No wonder I kept hearing him call them Audioscapes, ha-ha. I agree. No way the Pultecs are 4X better when these have the same "magic" 3D, realistic sound enhancement thing going on.
Simple, perfect enhancements; nothing like hearing that 60Hz boost come in on the singer/songwriter track. Thanks Marc!
He's such a gentleman. Props to anyone sharing good information
Love how the Pultec brings out the brush strokes on the drums.
Excellent video. One of the rare when you actualy hear what's going on clearly, without using your imagination, and the name of the product, and without the need of settings pulled to 11 in order to make them obvious but un-musical.
Good job, man.
I love the visual aspect of this video, how the top he's wearing matches his eye colour, the curtains, the sofa, his EQP-A's and even his console! Even the ring on his finger, the floor and the lamp stand seem to be all colour matched. Other CZcamsrs, take notice! ;)
I like Blue and Grey :)
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By using the transformer balanced Pultech Tube EQ you add Harmonic distortion and overtones to your mix that was not in the mix before passing it through the hardware. This can also be done with plug ins check RTA overtone content what happens when passed through UAD Eqp-1 pulltech or Waves EqP1 or Focusrite Liquid Mix old tube 3 eq Emulation based on EQH -2 3/4 band pultech EQ. For some slow songs when you don't need fast attack and relase settings LA2a can work on the masterbuss .You get very warm big sound with alot of Harmonic colour. If you want to balance it out run it in parallel compression so you can mix in how much La2a you want on your masterbuss.
I am a simple man, I see anything Marc, I click and watch... So much smooth knowledge shared
This could be in top 5 of best tutorials ever ....you rocked it big time Marc Daniel Nelson!!!!
Wow! Thanks ever so much
Really happy to see another video of Marc-Daniel, and especially talking about those lovely Pultec's.
That snare is the best snare sound i think i have ever heard on a record. it has so much body and presence
I use Pultec plugins and they work fine but man, that „clack“ sound of the switches is so sexy.
Reminds me of the Loudness switch on my old Pioneer receiver.. Gave the music a little more body and snap at lower volumes..
Your EQ has much smoother lows and airy top, very subtle, but definitely "there." Sounds nice..
Great and straightforward explanations from a Pro that aren't intimidating. Sounds like the kind of guy it would be fun just to sit and listen to mixes with and talk with about them - casually - learning passively, like this EQ.
Thanks for sharing your knowledge with us. I only have one passive EQ in my plugin collection and I don't like it - so now I'm looking for my best bet.
Been using different pultech plugins like crazy latey. I like making big smooth changes. It's nice to know your prefered settings. Analog obsession makes a pretty decent free version of it.
Great video! Why not just bypass or make the inserts inactive instead of flicking the power switches on and off?
Am I crazy or did it really seem to inject more emotion into it? So happy, just ordered some Audioscape stuff last night :) :) :)
🎉🙌🙏 thank you so much Isaac! That's AMAZING! Congrats!! ;-)
No, you are not. Emotion, warmness, confort. That is it.
Wow, I used to love this guy's old band "band of annuals" and I forgot about them until I head this song! Now I found the singer's new music! Thank you!
All I have to do, is learn how to get a recording / mix to the standard of Marc's (Before he engaged the pulteq's), before I can use the pulteq's.
Oh well, a long road ahead LoL
Cheers Marc and Warren, another very informative video.
Interesting tape recorder he has there. It looks like the cheap Akai 4000D stretched into quadraphonic form. I don't remember seeing those in the 70s. Most of the quadraphonic machines at least had logic controls, and usually supported 10.5" spools. The most basic quadraphonic tape recorder I remember is the Sony one they made by stretching the TC366.
I love AudioScape. I discovered them about six months ago with their SSL style buss compressor. It's amazing. It's smart that you have a pair of these EQ's. They would be wonderful to track with but a pair seems like a must for mixes. Thanks for sharing.
Quick question why do folks have a pair on the mix bus
Far out! I've built passive notch filters before, but never knew there was a full passive eq!
I'm gonna Google some schematics now 👍
I learn something new every time Marc is on! 👌
As someone that's had a tendency to mix things a bit dull I really like using a pultech plugin at the end to boost that sparkly top end without feeling scared that it'll be harsh as I do with some other eq
I agree in every point.
To have an analog gear in the Mix Bus means an added value
As ever, Marc's videos are the most creatively explained and heartfelt on PLAP. And sweet, sweet sounding Pultec clones indeed: great job, Audioscape!
Great vid - Passive EQ' i use are Eckmiller ( i have a few including hp/lp filters). Various RFZ ( i have a few) and 2 White instrument cut only graphics. Just as Mark said, so easy to over-boost thinking nothing happening, then you bypass and its "WOW". Also analogue passives keep the bass as tight as F phase wise - great for vinyl. I love active eq as-well but passives are my foundation eq's - always plenty boost and cut.
Beautiful song and Marc’s mix is like a warm blanket enveloping it. The passive eq on the master bus works so well here. Anyone else here would have preferred the snare placement on 4, rather than 3 & 6 though?
i'm designing my own preamp/passive eq since i wanted something that could boost much better than my other eq's, its basically a passive inductor EQ where the inductors are lowpass filters for 3 bands, and capacitors are highpass filters for 3 bands, makeup driven by a 2520, so far its sounding really good and exactly how you describe here, you have to boost a lot to get a lot of change but even a lot of change isn't too weird
That’s awesome that you use AS gear! I have their LA-2A, two of their V3A 500’s, and one of their EQP-A, which is so sweet sounding; all their gear is. I use it with my Tegeler VTRC on my mono vocal buss when mixing and all over when tracking. Thanks for the video!
You could place this kind of EQ either before or after the mix bus compressor; but I've seen more examples of a Pultec style being used after (eg. Fab Dupont) which of course could make its effect more pronounced.
the camera slowly zooming out made me feel like i was dying for a sec ngl
This acoustic bass sound superb! I would weep tears of joy to capture that sound. This video really reminds me of how I would love to see some type of video on recording upright bass. Every time I record one it's always a struggle to find the sound I'm looking for. I know what a Martin style guitar sounds like, a J45, a Taylor, I know where to start looking for the parts of the sound I want the most. I think upright bass quality is all over the map so that adds a lot of variables. Where oh where to look for that illusive heft, growl and knock?
Try Trillian, samples, yes, but amazing realistic if you fiddle with it a little!
Very much appreciate your discussion of how and why a particular hardware item or plugin, with the settings you use, works to achieve a specific goal. Valuable and thought provoking.
Please consider doing a video on getting that extra 10-15 % on the mix buss for other genres, i.e.pop, hip hop, rap, rock.
It works on ALL genres.
'Even if it's adding one cool thing but it's taking away two cool things, never use it'. That's a good point actually! Some EQ plugins for example have a strong effect on the transients and that's something I try to pay attention to. Thanks Marc!
Marc can make a video about his shoes and I will still watch it.
Just got a new pair of nikes!!
The layout of the pultec confuses a lot of new people. From left to right, the first downwards facing triangle of three knobs work together. Then it gets messy. The next set of three knobs are an upward facing triangle. Finally the Attenuation and Atten Selector work together.
Great video as always. I always learn something new from this channel. When I'm searching for advise regarding audio / music production, I try to find a solution on this channel. That's why I'm also member of PLAP community.
Regarding this video, I have some questions and hope to receive the answers:
1. do you still use plugin EQ's on the masterbus even though you use external pultecs? If yes, can it case any issues in the chain and do you have to apply delay compensation?
2. do you feel that there is a big difference in the final result by using the plugin of the hardware? And when would you use the plugin version in stead the hardware?
3. have you tried other pultec brand in hardware format? I'm sure that you may have inspired some people to buy these pultec hardware. The challenge with audio scape is that it is almost impossible to buy something from them. I have tried several times in the past and also after watching this video. There products are always out of stock. Have you tried the warm audio pultecs and if yes, what is your opinion about it compared to your audioscape pultecs? At least, warm audio's products are available every time. That's why I have purchased products from them (their pultecs not yet).
Great video! Would love to see a more 'in depth' tutorial on mixing this type of music. There are loads of great vids out there for Pop, Rock, Metal, R&B, EDM, etc but there seems to be a lack in this area. (Unless I'm missing something, of course). Thanks again to Marc and Warren, as ever!
Thank you for this Video! Those things sound absolutely beautiful!!!!!
Thank you Marc and Warren for taking the mystery out of the music making process. I always enjoy your videos and its very kind of you to be giving of your incredible knowledge to the community. Cheers!
I would like to hear a Neve eq vs the Pultec in the highs, both have a "silky/smooth" reputation.
Awesome, as a hobby musician I thought I'm kind of deaf from all those plugin on/off videos that always some to be totally obvious effects or barely noticeable. But in this case I hear the difference very clearly, those pultec clones really open up the mix and make it more beautiful. Maybe there is really something with the hardware that the software still doesn't get right, or maybe it's because people use hardware less and more deliberate?
What’s your sample size? If it’s “this video” vs “all other videos”, then it’s probably the engineer.
If it’s “all analogue” vs “all plugins”... maybe.
But with the right plug-in tools, you should be able to get similar results to analogue (bear in mind the settings may have to be WILDLY different to get a similar sound ... just the way the cookie crumbles)
When does final glueing and compression come into play ? A little before the Passive EQ and then the rest afterward ? Do tell 😊
Absolutely brilliant Marc as always and thank you so much for everything you do for us.. so inspiring 👍 thank you Warren and I will work on this !! Cheers, Jeff
Hey buddy! This is my all time favorite mixing video of all time! After seeing this, I use Analog obsession’s Rare on all my mixes. And I leave the same settings on. Also love this track! Great song and a perfect mix! Thanks so much!
Everything sounds fantastic even without the passive EQs. How is it possible to get such great sound? I wish I knew ;)
Superb. I have the Pultec plugins and I have been looking for THE place to use them as I did notice how sweet they are yet the effect was just a little too subtle for the other applications I was trying them on. I'm in, and I hope they will be my "go to" for mastering. Beautiful production by the way. Simple is the way.
I got the Pultec EQP-1A from Uaudio, the samples they had were rubbish - really failed to show what they can do - but I'm now using it on my vocals and acoustic guitars, it really adds something nice! I'd love the hardware too one day :-)
Thank you Marc and Warren. So much valuable content explained by such a humble and talented person. Love this content!
This mix is mind blowing!
I immediately tried this on a mix I am working on and it sounds much better! Thanks so much!
So cool...actually real recording and great artist. What would be so amazing would be releasing premaster stems of this quality stuff to really learn from. Great stuff Mark!
Finally a track with delicate sound staging and breath without mastering squish...stuff as good as this deserves nothing less than k12 range...intimate vs the relentless punishment of todays general loudness wars despite it being long over
We are all forever indebted to Summerland and Shank. Thank you gents!
The Pultec sound great, but with just a low and high freq's to work with, your just adding a smiley face to the music. This is the reason why I sold my Mini Massive EQ and got the Massive Passive with its 4 band EQ.
Just want to say thank you Warren and Marc for these awesome videos. Have a marvelous weekend. 🙂
So great to hear Jay in this context!! I’ve been a huge fan of his since he was playing in Band Of Annuals.
Incredible how it brings the depth and lush so subtly but yet so baldly! beautiful!
Behold the power of controlling your Freqz!!! Shape the sound to something profound or just round the sound.
I have the 500 series version of these never though about using them for mastering definitely going to try it.
Expression at start is like fire 🔥, Best Teacher ❤️
Hello and thanks for sharing this technique! I wasn't listening very carefully, but the second thing I noticed was possibly higher loudness. Would be great to see the before and after LUFS measurements!
I been looking at Audioscape stuff. And that EQA is so good. It definitely pushes this mix to a higher level
Off-topic: Does anyone know, how brands like Audioscape and Tube-Tech get away with "recreating" the OG Pultec design without getting sued by the patent holder? Same with the OG 1176 or LA-2A (Warm Audio, Klark Teknik, etc.).
I had the same thought
Patents expire
Ya you gotta thank Warren and his team ( just a hypothesis) for getting MDN on board ...you guys all have your nitch of expertise... that what makes it fun
You’re very welcome! Thanks ever so much
What an excellently recorded, performed and mixed track!
Thank you so much!
Passive EQs are wonderful 3D machines. Thanks for the video.
Fantastic stuff! Thank you so much for this video. Helps to wrap my brain around The beautiful sweet spot for pultec style EQ’s
Am I missing something here? I always thought passive EQ's boosted frequencies by cutting others. ie: if you 'increase' high frequencies what you're doing infact is cutting low frequencies to give the impression the high ones are being boosted.
This video is full of fairy dust and hippy dippy language. You are right, passive EQ's can only cut. The Pultec's are tube amp compensated so it turns up the level to compensate for the signal being cut when using the "boost" control. "This is what I do. I don't know how it works, but I like it," is terrible advise to give to mixing students. This is a sales technique - not a teaching aide. : (
nowhere.to.shower You should demand your money back.
@@nowheretoshower so in essence this bit of kit is a tube pre-amp with EQ controls on it?
Actually a quick glance at the circuit schematic makes everything more clear.
This can’t be just another over engineered and over sold bit of ‘boutique’ kit aimed at all the gear no idea wannabe audiophiles can it?
@@gerrabath No, it is not audiophile gear. It is a vintage EQ meant to be used by audio engineers. The Pultec EQ's are very colored and have a very wide q. They are only capable of "broad strokes".
Man, fantastic insight, thank you so much for sharing - this video came just in the right time 🤘
Oh the reverbe in the voice !! Can please you tell me what reverb gear / plugin is that ?
Love all the videos with Marc! Please Warren ask Marc to do more videos! Really awesome guy!
huh interesting. i like what they did for everything except for the snare. the brushes on the snare sound nice and natural without the EQ, but when the EQ is engaged, the snare gets a bit harsh to my ears, they stick out a bit much, to me anyway, what do i know? but everything else, the EQ brought everything a bit more forward which is nice.
Thanks I have the warm audio version and needed a few lessons
Great video. Thank you, Marc and Warren. These Audios Scape EQP-A really sound awesome. I love Pultec style EQs on the main bus.
Hello Mark I was told these 2 droids might belong to you! Excellent vid amazing sound on that track. Many thanks 🙏
Always love Marcs input. Some of my fave content on YT, next to Warren of course ;)
I think it's something in the Q with (at least my) passive EQs. I mean, with a pultec inspired circuit I always thought about how you can get really playful in the low end especially with that what I like to call "push me/ pull you" effect, to borrow from Doc Doolittle with the simultaneous cut/boost. Really great. But what really surprised me with my JLM PEQ500s is what it did for snare when I strapped the pair across the drum buss. On their own, I honestly can't recall boosting snare at 12k but with the PEQ500s? There's a real sweet, fermented sauce spooned ontop and why I've maintained that these pieces are the only pieces in my 500 Series I have that I rave about , where everything else can easily be replaced with something else, no probs. There you go. My 2db
The mix felt very very close when he put in those EQP's! Clarity & Proximity. Less of the midrange ambiguity.
Number 2 of my favorite mixers...no nerdy stuff, just real-life experience.
Even on my shitty mono phone speaker (I'm out, don't judge) I can hear them lifting an energising the track. It actually took me by surprise.
what you are hearing is also (not only, but also) that it gets louder. Ears love louder.
I love this vid so much. Watched it many times and bought myself a pair of AudioScape EPQ’s! Worth it. Killer stuff Marc.
Man I love the sound of good air in the analog domain
These videos are great. I’ve learned so much from this series with Marc. Quick question; why is he using two as opposed to one? I’m sorry if this was answered or if it’s obvious. I’m a newbie.
stereo mix
@@marcdanielnelson317 Right, duh, they're single input EQs so you need two for both channels. That didn't occur to me. Thank you!
I look forward to Marc's Videos!
This is the first time I’ve understood the “mix into it” concept thanks 🙏