Thank you for this excellent defense of the Mustang II. I remember when they first came out. I was about 8-9 and a man who lived next to my grandmother got one. I would go and stand at the fence and look at that car in his drive way for hours, hoping he would come out so I could talk to him about his car. Several times I asked him if I could wash it, but he would never let me. Anyway, I have great memories of that generation of Mustangs, and I still think they were among the best styled of the series. They were a product of their times ... and so am I.
Glad to see some recognition for a great car. A 1975 coupe with the luxury décor group was my first new car. I loved the way it looked, but my father would only let me have the 4-cyl. and I only wanted an automatic. The car I traded was a 1968 Mercury Cougar. People just believed that a 4-cyl. would get better mileage, but that's not always the case. The 4-cyl. was OK for a Pinto, but the Mustang II weighed much more, due to the luxury emphasis. Mine got worse mileage than the Cougar, which had a 302 V-8. If I had gotten the V-8 in the Mustang II, I would have loved more than its looks. Nevertheless, it was a great looking car and very comfortable car.
Your videos are always great but this one was outstanding. My dad had a 65, my brother a 78, and since then we’ve had at least one of every generation Mustang. My favorite is the 05-09. Any time I’m at a show or cars and coffee and see a Mustang II I pay my respects because without those cars we wouldn’t have had the amazing machines that followed.
I loved the clever and witty closing song of this excellent episode! Mustang IIs were everywhere back in the day, and even Aston Martins of that time bore more than a passing resemblance to it. It was a good looking design that was let down by the little bitty wheels and the anemic engines ubiquitous throughout the malaise era. It was wildly popular in spite of that, and I think it's unfairly maligned nowadays. Everyone I knew who had one loved it. Personally, I loathed the subsequent fox body that lasted way too long. Thanks for defending this underappreciated piece of automotive history. Wonderful, as always!
The stang II is in my opinion undeservedly hated by muscle car purists. It was a decent enough car for the time, and some elements of its mechanical design (the front suspension design) became such basic standard elements for hot rodding on a budget that they're still in production by aftermarket companies too this day. Without the stang II we probably wouldn't have gotten the fox body mustang in its final form. And that's entirely dependent on if ford bothered too keep the nameplate around if the second gen model had been based on the torino and the new federal CAFE standards had come into effect just after launch leaving them holding the bag.
Mustang fans dislike it because it went back to the roots of the original Mustang, just a bit too much. But they fail to realize that without it there would likely have been no future Mustangs. Or at least, Ford would have continued on with the idea of the Mustang/Probe. By the early 70's they were following the same evolution as the Mercury Cougar. They were bloated parodies of what they once were. With the rise in popularity of the personal luxury coupe, Mustangs would have just gotten bigger and softer. When the luxury coupe popularity ended, the Mustang would have been dropped.
@@christopherconard2831 I remember reading an interview with the director of Diamonds Are Forever where he spoke at length about the "absolute nightmare" that filming the mustang car chase was because the Mustang's he was given by ford to shoot the movie were so large, heavy, overpowered and ill handling that the stunt drivers were having a hard time controlling them in the alleyways. Even after they ripped everything they couldt out of the in in camera cars as they could to try and make them easier to control they still went through half a dozen of them just shooting that short 90 second scene. That's actually the reason why the continuity of the shot at the very end of the scene is completely wrong. When they shot that scene using a regular off the shelf 'stang (for continuity with the studio shot scenes with sean connery driving) the unibody actually cracked in half when the car flopped back onto all four wheels so they re-shot it using one of the stiffened stripped out stunt cars, but they shot it in such a rush that they didn't realize the car was driving on the wrong two wheels until they edited the movie.
I had a 74 Ghia V6 Between 1995 and 2006. They were actually sold by Ford dealers here in Sweden in the 70's. Here they were very expensive compared to european Fords. I sold it because parts were becomming harder and harder to find. But the car is still alive. The guy who bought it still has it.
Great! I thought it was only me that it had an effect on. Somehow the old intro just puts me in a good place. Cheers from a very cold bit of AU dan. =)
Bravo!!! This is the first time someone has gotten so much correct about these cars. I love all the charlies angels references and clips. People do not realize that the 74 remains the 4 th best selling mustang, and as you stated, we would not have a mustang today had it not bridged the gap between 73 ( love the car but horrible sales) and the 79 fox body. As a Mustang owner of first second and 4 th gen, i appreciate the work you did to accurately portray these cars. People forget the falcon was the basis for the mustang. The pinto has become a joke now, but was a huge seller. If you ever want to know more about the Charlies Angels cars shoot me a dm. Thanks!!!
This is my favorite video by you so far, Thank You. I'm now a subscriber. 😎 Good to know I'm in good standing with other things born in the mid 70's: Mustang 2 and Charlie's Angels 😎
@@kcindc5539 Exactly! 🙌😎 ...I always thought Sabrina got the shaft for driving the pinto! I personally preferred Kelly Garrett's mustang, it wasn't too flashy. But we know who the favorite was, driving the Cobra with street decals and all lol.
@@natebeach Ha! Yes we sure do. And I completely agree. I was especially bummed because I had an even bigger crush on Sabrina than I had on Jill. So I did my best to ignore the fact Sabrina got the shaft compared to the other two. I did dig the Ghia with its little bolero landau vinyl roof.
It was the right car back then. Ford sold over a million of these and that's what brought them resources to design and build the much more loved and succesful Fox Body Mustang and continue with its legacy to this day. That's why, despite all its flaws, I give the Mustang II credit where is due
Great video and really like these cars. They had a huge option list and had COLOR, both inside and out, not just black, white, and 3 different greys like today. Look at the selection people had back then!
🐎a hero at last. been seeing more of these M2’s lately at C&C☕️. i was completely submersed in your presentation from start to finish. thank you Tofer😊
@@TofersCarTales would never miss a Tofer production. you did did an efficient job keeping us posted when we could expect the full feature to be uploaded.
Thank you for this documentary , I love all Mustangs independently of year era , I do favourite the ones wth T-Top as such as 77-78 Mustang ll or even a 1987 T-Top Fox body because I love the uniqueness of any other Mustang than a 65-66-67 where you would see it by the dozens in car shows , I do love the Mustang Il a lot and they’ve done amazing work on the Cobras 🐍 especially the bright red and Black & Gold . All the best from Adelaide South Australia 🇦🇺
Best way to end my vacation. You're storytelling has improved a thousand percent along with video production from just showing brochures with music, though that was when I subscribed. Great video. Hope you are well
Mustang 2s were stripped of their front suspensions RAMPANTLY. Many many hot rods and restomods from the 50's still driving around on mustang 2s to this day!
The Mustang cult would have us all believe that every Mustang prior to and subsequent to the Mustang II was impossibly fast (and all Camaros were Z28s). But hundreds of thousands of them were 6 cylinder low-option cars that were bought for their looks by people who weren't interested in winning drag races, and you could buy a Fox body Mustang with a 4 cylinder engine for its entire model run. The people who gripe about the Mustang II not being a "real" Mustang have faulty memories, if they were even alive back then. The original Mustang was just an economy car in gym clothes too.
My aunt had a Mustang Ghia when I was growing up & I remember everyone was giving her a lot slack saying that it wasn't a real Mustang 🐎 lol I liked the car i thought it was nice lol brings back memories lol
I was 13. The very first car I negotiated on for my mother. 1974 dark yellow green. Tan interior. 3 options P steering, am radio, ww tires. Window was $3380 +- Paid 3k plus tax. Bob Smith Ford. PGH Pa. Salesman was Bob Fillafant. Why I remember that I have no idea. After first year it started to rust bottom of front fenders unbelievable. I sold it for her after a year and a half.
My high school girlfriend’s mother had one of these. I always felt like I was sitting on the floor, and due to my height I didn’t fit in the back. I don’t remember her having any issues with it, and as a very petite woman she fit in it well.
Ok, I'm convinced Tofer! We never see these in AU but tbh I much prefer it to a Mustang I. So this was the moment when Ghia became a Ford trim level? My KB Laser 1.5 Ghia was lovely. Warm regards from a very cold Canberra. =) _PS: your theme tune still puts me in a happy place._
In 1975 I owned a 1974 hard top, 2.3 4 cylinder with a 4 speed manual. The commercial touted "Mustang II Boredom 0". It was more like Mustang II, Boredom II.
The Fastback Shelby version, with a 4-speed manual and emissions-equipment deleted was kinda fun to drive compared to other American cars at the time. It was really more like the Chevrolet Monza than the Chevrolet Camaro.
The Mustang ll wasn’t a bad car at all. I’d have called it the Maverick, and used the Maverick platform for the Mustang. BUT…. As a result, it was,[ and still is] greatly mocked. I had the Ghia. It was a neat little car [ even if it was “just a Pinto”]. 📻🙂
The maverick platform was a reworking of their old designs. . Big shock towers spring over the top arm. . Recirculating ball boxes and that awful power assist on it. . Plus the ball joints came factory worn out... layout wise it looks like every midsized ford from the 60s under the skin.
The spiritual return of Shelby the Cobra 2 you probably have no idea how much Carroll Shelby hated the Ford Motor Company at that time the Ford Motor Company made the Cobra 2
I don't remember them being loved back in the day....despite sales records I remember them being the butt of jokes. Nostalgia is blurring you vision some lol
Interesting, given USA was going through fuel crisis especially Ford design went down size yet Ford Australia hold on their full size i do wonder Ford Mustang 2 v XB coupe would Americans gone for larger XB? Australians did go for large XD sedan vs Holden VB Commodore. Great vid Tofer, maybe mix up Mustang 2 vs XB coupe? Let's see what subscribers choose?
There is nothing wrong with the mustang ii that a set of modern heads and current day hotrod goodies csnt fix. Hell back in the day put a set of 69 351w heads on the 302, headers n intake to get air in n smoke out . They're small they're light they're monsters
3:39 did she just say "MIRROR mirror on the wall" in that parody and NOT "MAGIC mirror on the wall" which is what Disney says its ALWAYS BEEN(magic mirror) . Now Why and How would FORD get that famous line wrong🤔.... Hello Mandela effect proof! .... STUPID CERN!! 🤬 (if u know u know)
I always thought the Mustang II was a nice looking car. But Quality control was terrible. Sad, should of been a legendary car of the era. Now butt of jokes. (Farrah and Aaron Spelling were both working with Ford.)
You have a great talent, Tofer! Superb video. & I love hearing your intro jingle . Such a trip down memory lane & what a great time to be alive, although i was a baby. LoL. Growing up in the Detroit suburbs, I'm well aware of how brilliant Iacocca was. He was smarter than the Deuce. Mustang II was definitely the right car at the right time. Always great to see another production from you & i trust all is well👍. Best regards, Sir
This car is about as underrated as this channel is. The Mustang II aged like wine I think.
Absolutely correct
A car worth it's tale to be told with admiration.
Great job, Tofer!
1978 Mustang King Cobra: Because one of the Ford designers saw Smokey and the Bandit too many times at the drive-in.
Thank you for this excellent defense of the Mustang II. I remember when they first came out. I was about 8-9 and a man who lived next to my grandmother got one. I would go and stand at the fence and look at that car in his drive way for hours, hoping he would come out so I could talk to him about his car. Several times I asked him if I could wash it, but he would never let me. Anyway, I have great memories of that generation of Mustangs, and I still think they were among the best styled of the series. They were a product of their times ... and so am I.
thank you lee iacocca.
For so many things. He was brilliant
The personal car, i like that
Imagine if today’s mustang had wire wheel hubcaps. Can’t even imagine it.
Another perfect car tale!!!
Loved the footage from the movie Starman! That orange Cobra II is what started my first love for Mustang IIs. Thanks Topher!
Glad to see some recognition for a great car. A 1975 coupe with the luxury décor group was my first new car. I loved the way it looked, but my father would only let me have the 4-cyl. and I only wanted an automatic. The car I traded was a 1968 Mercury Cougar. People just believed that a 4-cyl. would get better mileage, but that's not always the case. The 4-cyl. was OK for a Pinto, but the Mustang II weighed much more, due to the luxury emphasis. Mine got worse mileage than the Cougar, which had a 302 V-8. If I had gotten the V-8 in the Mustang II, I would have loved more than its looks. Nevertheless, it was a great looking car and very comfortable car.
Mustang ii with the Ghia trim is gorgeous
That’s what I had .
It was really a neat little car.
Your videos are always great but this one was outstanding. My dad had a 65, my brother a 78, and since then we’ve had at least one of every generation Mustang. My favorite is the 05-09. Any time I’m at a show or cars and coffee and see a Mustang II I pay my respects because without those cars we wouldn’t have had the amazing machines that followed.
It doesn't matter what year. Seriously, who doesn't love a Ford mustang? Absolute American icon
I loved the clever and witty closing song of this excellent episode! Mustang IIs were everywhere back in the day, and even Aston Martins of that time bore more than a passing resemblance to it. It was a good looking design that was let down by the little bitty wheels and the anemic engines ubiquitous throughout the malaise era. It was wildly popular in spite of that, and I think it's unfairly maligned nowadays. Everyone I knew who had one loved it. Personally, I loathed the subsequent fox body that lasted way too long. Thanks for defending this underappreciated piece of automotive history. Wonderful, as always!
I love the outro too. The songwriter (Laszlo?) is in the credits, he did it especially for Tofer afaik. =)
The stang II is in my opinion undeservedly hated by muscle car purists.
It was a decent enough car for the time, and some elements of its mechanical design (the front suspension design) became such basic standard elements for hot rodding on a budget that they're still in production by aftermarket companies too this day.
Without the stang II we probably wouldn't have gotten the fox body mustang in its final form.
And that's entirely dependent on if ford bothered too keep the nameplate around if the second gen model had been based on the torino and the new federal CAFE standards had come into effect just after launch leaving them holding the bag.
Mustang fans dislike it because it went back to the roots of the original Mustang, just a bit too much.
But they fail to realize that without it there would likely have been no future Mustangs. Or at least, Ford would have continued on with the idea of the Mustang/Probe.
By the early 70's they were following the same evolution as the Mercury Cougar. They were bloated parodies of what they once were. With the rise in popularity of the personal luxury coupe, Mustangs would have just gotten bigger and softer. When the luxury coupe popularity ended, the Mustang would have been dropped.
@@christopherconard2831
I remember reading an interview with the director of Diamonds Are Forever where he spoke at length about the "absolute nightmare" that filming the mustang car chase was because the Mustang's he was given by ford to shoot the movie were so large, heavy, overpowered and ill handling that the stunt drivers were having a hard time controlling them in the alleyways.
Even after they ripped everything they couldt out of the in in camera cars as they could to try and make them easier to control they still went through half a dozen of them just shooting that short 90 second scene.
That's actually the reason why the continuity of the shot at the very end of the scene is completely wrong.
When they shot that scene using a regular off the shelf 'stang (for continuity with the studio shot scenes with sean connery driving) the unibody actually cracked in half when the car flopped back onto all four wheels so they re-shot it using one of the stiffened stripped out stunt cars, but they shot it in such a rush that they didn't realize the car was driving on the wrong two wheels until they edited the movie.
Awesome, enjoyable video. Memories of watching Charlie's Angels in the 70's. As always, a good selection of accompanying music. 👍👍
I had a 74 Ghia V6 Between 1995 and 2006. They were actually sold by Ford dealers here in Sweden in the 70's. Here they were very expensive compared to european Fords. I sold it because parts were becomming harder and harder to find. But the car is still alive. The guy who bought it still has it.
Interesting.
📻🙂
My best buddy's older brother had a 1976 Mustang II Ghia. Had the 302 and it moved for a lil fella. I always enjoyed riding in it.
I love hearing the woo hoo intro jingle again Tofer.
Great! I thought it was only me that it had an effect on. Somehow the old intro just puts me in a good place. Cheers from a very cold bit of AU dan. =)
Great video! Well done, sir!
Bravo!!! This is the first time someone has gotten so much correct about these cars. I love all the charlies angels references and clips. People do not realize that the 74 remains the 4 th best selling mustang, and as you stated, we would not have a mustang today had it not bridged the gap between 73 ( love the car but horrible sales) and the 79 fox body. As a Mustang owner of first second and 4 th gen, i appreciate the work you did to accurately portray these cars. People forget the falcon was the basis for the mustang. The pinto has become a joke now, but was a huge seller. If you ever want to know more about the Charlies Angels cars shoot me a dm. Thanks!!!
14:18. had to pick my fav if was 18 in 1976 and could buy a new car.. red mach 1
This is my favorite video by you so far, Thank You. I'm now a subscriber. 😎 Good to know I'm in good standing with other things born in the mid 70's: Mustang 2 and Charlie's Angels 😎
As long as the angels drove Mustangs people kept buying them.
Yeah except Sabrina got saddled with a Pinto while Kelly and Jill got Mustangs. I remember thinking that was patently unfair.
@@kcindc5539YES! My thoughts exactly!
@@natebeach great minds!
@@kcindc5539 Exactly! 🙌😎 ...I always thought Sabrina got the shaft for driving the pinto! I personally preferred Kelly Garrett's mustang, it wasn't too flashy. But we know who the favorite was, driving the Cobra with street decals and all lol.
@@natebeach Ha! Yes we sure do. And I completely agree. I was especially bummed because I had an even bigger crush on Sabrina than I had on Jill. So I did my best to ignore the fact Sabrina got the shaft compared to the other two. I did dig the Ghia with its little bolero landau vinyl roof.
That first mockup looked like someone crossed a second gen Camaro and an Olds Toronado.
What a great retrospective. You made me nostalgic for a time I wasn’t even alive for. I watch all your videos and they’re all awesome.
It was the right car back then. Ford sold over a million of these and that's what brought them resources to design and build the much more loved and succesful Fox Body Mustang and continue with its legacy to this day.
That's why, despite all its flaws, I give the Mustang II credit where is due
Can’t argue with that.
Great video and really like these cars. They had a huge option list and had COLOR, both inside and out, not just black, white, and 3 different greys like today. Look at the selection people had back then!
🐎a hero at last. been seeing more of these M2’s lately at C&C☕️. i was completely submersed in your presentation from start to finish. thank you Tofer😊
So glad to hear you enjoyed it my friend!
@@TofersCarTales would never miss a Tofer production. you did did an efficient job keeping us posted when we could expect the full feature to be uploaded.
My first car was a '74 Mustang ii fasback, bought it in 1981. Came with a V6 2.8L 4 spd. I still own it, it now sports a '69 4V 351W under the hood.
Thank you for this documentary , I love all Mustangs independently of year era , I do favourite the ones wth T-Top as such as 77-78 Mustang ll or even a 1987 T-Top Fox body because I love the uniqueness of any other Mustang than a 65-66-67 where you would see it by the dozens in car shows , I do love the Mustang Il a lot and they’ve done amazing work on the Cobras 🐍 especially the bright red and Black & Gold .
All the best from Adelaide South Australia 🇦🇺
Terrific video! Well produced.
Best way to end my vacation. You're storytelling has improved a thousand percent along with video production from just showing brochures with music, though that was when I subscribed. Great video. Hope you are well
I never liked the 2. But I will admit that interior, even the base was really nice.
I used to have A red & white "74 mustang,It was my 1st car!!!
Mustang 2s were stripped of their front suspensions RAMPANTLY. Many many hot rods and restomods from the 50's still driving around on mustang 2s to this day!
And original song!
Yes, the outro is pretty great & it ends things very upbeat, but for me the [old?] intro theme & video is still the best.
The Mustang cult would have us all believe that every Mustang prior to and subsequent to the Mustang II was impossibly fast (and all Camaros were Z28s). But hundreds of thousands of them were 6 cylinder low-option cars that were bought for their looks by people who weren't interested in winning drag races, and you could buy a Fox body Mustang with a 4 cylinder engine for its entire model run. The people who gripe about the Mustang II not being a "real" Mustang have faulty memories, if they were even alive back then. The original Mustang was just an economy car in gym clothes too.
My aunt had a Mustang Ghia when I was growing up & I remember everyone was giving her a lot slack saying that it wasn't a real Mustang 🐎 lol I liked the car i thought it was nice lol brings back memories lol
love your music best on all of youtube it makes me happy :)
I never knew about the 2" wheelbase stretch over the Pinto. Too bad they couldn't have done it on the Pinto wagon as well.
I was 13. The very first car I negotiated on for my mother. 1974 dark yellow green. Tan interior. 3 options P steering, am radio, ww tires. Window was $3380 +-
Paid 3k plus tax. Bob Smith Ford. PGH Pa. Salesman was Bob Fillafant. Why I remember that I have no idea.
After first year it started to rust bottom of front fenders unbelievable. I sold it for her after a year and a half.
My high school girlfriend’s mother had one of these. I always felt like I was sitting on the floor, and due to my height I didn’t fit in the back. I don’t remember her having any issues with it, and as a very petite woman she fit in it well.
Ok, I'm convinced Tofer! We never see these in AU but tbh I much prefer it to a Mustang I.
So this was the moment when Ghia became a Ford trim level? My KB Laser 1.5 Ghia was lovely.
Warm regards from a very cold Canberra. =) _PS: your theme tune still puts me in a happy place._
Man, I started to cry…….#CHARLIESANGELS #FARRAH #FAITHFULCOMPANION Thank You. #MUSTANG ❤
It was a fancy Pinto
Another great video!!
Going to watch Charlie’s angels tonight
Good video 😀
The cobra is the only one I kind of like.
Very cool video! I have a soft spot for the Mustang II.
Discofied and Broughamified, Mustang II is the lowest point😢
In 1975 I owned a 1974 hard top, 2.3 4 cylinder with a 4 speed manual.
The commercial touted "Mustang II Boredom 0".
It was more like Mustang II, Boredom II.
Fun fact, or just a fact. Every Mustang from 1964 1/2 to 1984 came with a V8 engine including the 1974 model year. The gas crisis never hit Mexico.
The mustang II wasn’t that bad looking
The Fastback Shelby version, with a 4-speed manual and emissions-equipment deleted was kinda fun to drive compared to other American cars at the time. It was really more like the Chevrolet Monza than the Chevrolet Camaro.
The Cobra package 👌🏽
Agreed. I had one. And it wasn’t a bad car either.
🚗🙂
Agreed. I had one. And it wasn’t a bad car either.
🚗🙂
I agree
The Mustang ll wasn’t a bad car at all. I’d have called it the Maverick, and used the Maverick platform for the Mustang. BUT….
As a result, it was,[ and still is] greatly mocked.
I had the Ghia. It was a neat little car [ even if it was “just a Pinto”].
📻🙂
The maverick platform was a reworking of their old designs. . Big shock towers spring over the top arm. . Recirculating ball boxes and that awful power assist on it. . Plus the ball joints came factory worn out... layout wise it looks like every midsized ford from the 60s under the skin.
excellent! i want one now lol
The spiritual return of Shelby the Cobra 2 you probably have no idea how much Carroll Shelby hated the Ford Motor Company at that time the Ford Motor Company made the Cobra 2
I don't remember them being loved back in the day....despite sales records I remember them being the butt of jokes. Nostalgia is blurring you vision some lol
I think nostalgia, old videos & music is sorta the main theme here anyway =)
Interesting, given USA was going through fuel crisis especially Ford design went down size yet Ford Australia hold on their full size i do wonder Ford Mustang 2 v XB coupe would Americans gone for larger XB? Australians did go for large XD sedan vs Holden VB Commodore. Great vid Tofer, maybe mix up Mustang 2 vs XB coupe? Let's see what subscribers choose?
There is nothing wrong with the mustang ii that a set of modern heads and current day hotrod goodies csnt fix. Hell back in the day put a set of 69 351w heads on the 302, headers n intake to get air in n smoke out . They're small they're light they're monsters
3:39 did she just say "MIRROR mirror on the wall" in that parody and NOT "MAGIC mirror on the wall" which is what Disney says its ALWAYS BEEN(magic mirror) . Now Why and How would FORD get that famous line wrong🤔.... Hello Mandela effect proof! .... STUPID CERN!! 🤬
(if u know u know)
I always thought the Mustang II was a nice looking car. But Quality control was terrible. Sad, should of been a legendary car of the era. Now butt of jokes. (Farrah and Aaron Spelling were both working with Ford.)
Pintang.
The 2013-2014 mustang looks similar to the mustang 2 in front.
You have a great talent, Tofer! Superb video. & I love hearing your intro jingle . Such a trip down memory lane & what a great time to be alive, although i was a baby. LoL. Growing up in the Detroit suburbs, I'm well aware of how brilliant Iacocca was. He was smarter than the Deuce. Mustang II was definitely the right car at the right time. Always great to see another production from you & i trust all is well👍. Best regards, Sir