Great to finally come across a review by someone who actually wears & doesn't get worried about scratches on there watches I live in New Zealand 🇳🇿 & I've been a Tag Heuer customer for over 20 years but have decided to try another brand regardless of which one of these watches I would choose it is extremely difficult to get your hands on a brand now Rolex here & since I'm after a daily watch I'm going to give to Tudor a try. Thanks for the great review
I did choose the P39 instead of a sub but then got a GMT Master II for the Rolex part 😂 - and an Overseas for the elegant diver style, the 2009/10 Breitling SuperOcean Arrowhand for a real diver (1500m) - this hobby is madness. 😂
That‘s an excellent collection and I feel your better off with the P39 and a GMT, the P39 being a more tool watch addition compared to the fancier rest of them
I went for pelagos LHD myself couldnt be happier, a little, more fun, quirky, unique and rare ( probably sell more of the other two a year than they have lhd in 7 years).
The P39 oozes toolwatch charm and is something different!! Price is great too. I didn’t like it on photos until i wore it. Same goes for the BB58 925. a stunner on the wrist and an option you could consider, if you sell the Sub
Pelagos for the everyday watch and the sub for the dressier occasions. The sub looks more formal, and as you said, I'd be worried about it when I wear it.
A great watch and for that very reason it can’t be boring. I can’t justify buying one, so an Octopus Kraken titanium with a Sellita movement at $350 will have to do! Good review.
Ok I rewatched your video and now I understand your dilemma 1) submariner can draw negative attention making it a watch you have to be conscientious about when and where you wear it 2) you like neovintage hence the explorer and Pelagos 39 are better options 3) you already have the bond watch so that would replace the sub (according to you) 4) the build and look of the sub oozes luxury, it holds it value. Availability of sub can be difficult Based on those reasons above it sounds like selling the sub is the option to go for. Watch collecting should be fun not perilous or life threatening .
Exactly! Which also i shouldn’t be so afraid an cautious wearing the sub. Just live life haha fortunately i know when and where to wear it so im ok! But yes absolutely you got it right
Ok…another crazy solution is wear the heck out of the submariner and create scratches/dings so it will be your tool watch 😂I personally would keep the sub wear it like a Pelagos 39!!!
I bought the Sub 50th anniversary in 2007 and wore it day in and day out. I use to be a competitive road cyclist and wore it even through the competitive seasons until the madness of Covid shining a whole new light on Rolex. Now I feel Rolex especially the Sub is more for the individual who wants that attention or “flex” even though the timepiece has an incredible movement, the Sub is more Jewellery focus rather than the tool watch it is supposed to be. When I purchase my Kermit, I got 15% off retail, lol. These days, I can’t wear my Kermit even though it’s bashed up plus, I have the most amazing memories wearing that timepiece. Now she lives in security rather than my wrist so I bought the Pelagos 39. It’s my daily wearer and I love it! I refuse to baby the P39 and just enjoy the timepiece. I share it with my Speedy moonwatch (wrist time). Now that is an Iconic timepiece and feel comfortable wearing it as a daily driver
If youre selling one because you need the money, then a used sub will get you close to retail price but a used p39 will sell for way less than retail price.
The Rolex no-date Submariner has been and will always be my favorite watch of all time. I know it's boring and everyone has one but so what. Having said that, Titanium is my favorite watch material. So for me, these would be two must have watches and I would have to keep them both in my collection.
I was on the list for a no-date Sub, but once I got the Pelagos 39, I loved it so much, I told my AD to take me off the Sub list. I LOVE it and everything about it. It is the titanium sub that Rolex will make some day and charge 3x the price of the P39 for. If I get a Rolex diver, I'll go the opposite route and pick up a James Cameron Deepsea for a true Rolex flex watch. But the P39 will be my daily diver for a long time to come.
Great video! I love the neo vintage 5 digit Rolex models but somehow I don’t want to pay the same price for a 20 year old no date sub as a new one. Currently on the list for a Sub LV because of that. I‘d kind of favor the old no date, because of its tool watch aesthetic but at that price I probably wouldn’t be banging it around, which is why I‘ll probably get the P39 too at some point. My buddy has one and I absolutely love it, i think it’s awesome. The only reason I haven’t got it yet is because I‘m actually waiting for two watches🤞🏻 and I told myself I‘d wait until I get at least one of both, before buying something else.
I agree i do think this myself thats why i didn’t buy a 5 digit sub and opted for the new iteration. And yes the pelagos is an excelente everydayer and a fantastic tool watch not to worry about scratches! Thanks for sharing your thoughts
What do you mean by „hold its value better from an AD“? I‘m sure it will hold its value better but what does the AD have to do with that? Regarding the date window, i suppose the no date sub would have been more apples to apples, but he happens to own the date version.
@@Bisley1 I mean if you can buy a sub at retail price form an AD then its a sound investment (you would recoup if you needed to sell). As you'll be aware though, you cant just walk in off the street and buy a Rolex, especially not a sports rolex. Grey market is different however.
I’m one of the weirdos that love a date function. I have a 126610lv, but I’d give it up for a Pelagos 39 with date. The Pelagos fits better with my lifestyle, but I need the date. Great video.
The size of the PELAGOS looks better on your wrist. The matte finish of the bezel on the Pelagos vs the shine of the Sub is also better looking on your wrist.
I have an OG 2-liner Pelagos and it’s amazing. I tried on the 39mm and it felt too light (which is saying something given how light the 42mm Pelagos is). I also have a Hulk and I love that watch too. Between a Sub and a 39mm Pelagos, I’d keep the Sub (I like the date complication… it’s useful… functionality trumps form/design IMHO).
i have 2 tone sub 41 and pelagos 39. im wearing the pelagos during the week. these dats i want less flash at work. also at the gym, its as light as a smart watch i cant even feel it
Bro. size your watch correctly and you wont have that noise issue with the band. Curious why you have it adjusted like you do. Unless that is someone else's watch.
This is my watch and at the end the t fit was opened at the last point thats why it looked loose, the watch correctly sized it does the noise too. And i like to wear this one loose cause the bracelet is a bit sharp on the edges
Hey! thanks! i have a video about the black bay 54 feel free to check it out! in my opinoin is the best tudor yet interms of craftmanshio and design and innovation por the brand
The Sub is a great watch. The Pelagos is great watch. Both Rolex products. The Pelagos has a great sporty look that you can dress up or down nicely. Not as much shiny flash as the Rolex.
I would not had that problem, I am anti Yankees⚾️ and anti Rolex. The way they have set their marketing does not appeal to me. I want a black dial divers watch and I am thinking about an Omega Seamaster 300 Pro or Pelagos 39. I already have r the Seamaster in blue dial, that is how much I enjoy wearing the watch. I do not have a Pelagos yet, I think I will buy the Pelagos 39 for Father’s Day last year. The way it looks, feel and wear is superb!! There is my answer!! My brother, great video!
its very close .. very .. obvously the sub is the best bezel to turn seriously is buttery smooth and at the same time is clicky i dont know how to explain it! but the ocean rover is just very damn close
I’ve read you’ve stating this on multiple videos. Funny, because I often think my Pelagos 39’s lumed filled areas on my ceramic insert always looks dirty lol
I don't think there is even a choice...the Submariner is a damned near perfect watch (and I've never liked the look of Tudors). But the Rolex prices? The prices are just ridiculous! I owned and wore a Sub as a GADA for over 20 years - skydiving, SCUBA diving, at the office, on the shooting range, it basically never left my wrist. But as the prices rose and rose, I could no longer justify it. I sold my Rolexes and bought Steinharts. And pocketed tens of thousands of dollars! The Steinharts make me perfectly happy.
IF I had the money... I'd go with the Tudor as I wouldn't want to be associated with the Rolex brand. I guess a Rolex would be compared to a Lambo which is too loud and attention grabbing. Usually associated with new money, Tudor is more subdued as a brand and would be more like a Porsche. Sure it will get attention but it's not as desperate as a Lambo if that makes sense. 🤣
Combine the explorer, Pelagos, and the SMP and you have the submariner !!!😂 the submariner is a 1 watch collection! As a watch enthusiast you probably will choose 3 watches over 1
Haha totally agree! I dont wanna brag or anything but thankfully i can afford to have this 3 watches…. For now…. 🤣 i think the 60th anniversary is worth its place in my collection and i can say its staying there. I dont see at any point selling this one…. Onless! I want it to change this for a NTTD 😅
@@robbasilio7235 I love the vintage feel and look with the modern perks. Understated but beautiful styling, sunburst dial, slim comfortable case, and Tfit clasp.
Explorer 36, rolex sub, omega 60th are all amazing pieces
also Lange 1815 ...amazing
Great to finally come across a review by someone who actually wears & doesn't get worried about scratches on there watches
I live in New Zealand 🇳🇿 & I've been a Tag Heuer customer for over 20 years but have decided to try another brand regardless of which one of these watches I would choose it is extremely difficult to get your hands on a brand now Rolex here & since I'm after a daily watch I'm going to give to Tudor a try.
Thanks for the great review
Glad to help! and Thanks for watching! Give it a go with Tudor you wont regret it!
I did choose the P39 instead of a sub but then got a GMT Master II for the Rolex part 😂 - and an Overseas for the elegant diver style, the 2009/10 Breitling SuperOcean Arrowhand for a real diver (1500m) - this hobby is madness. 😂
That‘s an excellent collection and I feel your better off with the P39 and a GMT, the P39 being a more tool watch addition compared to the fancier rest of them
totally agree
I went for pelagos LHD myself couldnt be happier, a little, more fun, quirky, unique and rare ( probably sell more of the other two a year than they have lhd in 7 years).
the LHD is a great choice!! i love that it has patina lume and the roulette datewheel
The P39 oozes toolwatch charm and is something different!! Price is great too. I didn’t like it on photos until i wore it. Same goes for the BB58 925. a stunner on the wrist and an option you could consider, if you sell the Sub
It really does! Thats why i say that tudor is what rolex was! And lets face it tudor was always a better tool watch … even back in the day!
Pelagos for the everyday watch and the sub for the dressier occasions. The sub looks more formal, and as you said, I'd be worried about it when I wear it.
A great watch and for that very reason it can’t be boring. I can’t justify buying one, so an Octopus Kraken titanium with a Sellita movement at $350 will have to do! Good review.
Very nice! Thanks for watching !
Both are awesome. I’d take the P39 and the extra money over a Sub, even at retail.
Ok I rewatched your video and now I understand your dilemma
1) submariner can draw negative attention making it a watch you have to be conscientious about when and where you wear it
2) you like neovintage hence the explorer and Pelagos 39 are better options
3) you already have the bond watch so that would replace the sub (according to you)
4) the build and look of the sub oozes luxury, it holds it value. Availability of sub can be difficult
Based on those reasons above it sounds like selling the sub is the option to go for. Watch collecting should be fun not perilous or life threatening .
Exactly! Which also i shouldn’t be so afraid an cautious wearing the sub. Just live life haha fortunately i know when and where to wear it so im ok! But yes absolutely you got it right
Ok…another crazy solution is wear the heck out of the submariner and create scratches/dings so it will be your tool watch 😂I personally would keep the sub wear it like a Pelagos 39!!!
I bought the Sub 50th anniversary in 2007 and wore it day in and day out. I use to be a competitive road cyclist and wore it even through the competitive seasons until the madness of Covid shining a whole new light on Rolex. Now I feel Rolex especially the Sub is more for the individual who wants that attention or “flex” even though the timepiece has an incredible movement, the Sub is more Jewellery focus rather than the tool watch it is supposed to be. When I purchase my Kermit, I got 15% off retail, lol. These days, I can’t wear my Kermit even though it’s bashed up plus, I have the most amazing memories wearing that timepiece. Now she lives in security rather than my wrist so I bought the Pelagos 39. It’s my daily wearer and I love it! I refuse to baby the P39 and just enjoy the timepiece. I share it with my Speedy moonwatch (wrist time). Now that is an Iconic timepiece and feel comfortable wearing it as a daily driver
If youre selling one because you need the money, then a used sub will get you close to retail price but a used p39 will sell for way less than retail price.
This is very true! Na Im thinking of selling one because of the similarities and i use way more the p39 than the sub giving the circumstances
The Rolex no-date Submariner has been and will always be my favorite watch of all time. I know it's boring and everyone has one but so what. Having said that, Titanium is my favorite watch material. So for me, these would be two must have watches and I would have to keep them both in my collection.
Really good video. I have the NTTD omega smp and submariner date 41mm and I love both equally
thanks man! i am really thinking about trying out the NTTD ... i dont know why but i might trade up my seamaster 60yh for the NTTD
I was on the list for a no-date Sub, but once I got the Pelagos 39, I loved it so much, I told my AD to take me off the Sub list. I LOVE it and everything about it. It is the titanium sub that Rolex will make some day and charge 3x the price of the P39 for. If I get a Rolex diver, I'll go the opposite route and pick up a James Cameron Deepsea for a true Rolex flex watch. But the P39 will be my daily diver for a long time to come.
Is it true that the lume on the bezel for the p39 can easily come off?
Great video! I love the neo vintage 5 digit Rolex models but somehow I don’t want to pay the same price for a 20 year old no date sub as a new one. Currently on the list for a Sub LV because of that. I‘d kind of favor the old no date, because of its tool watch aesthetic but at that price I probably wouldn’t be banging it around, which is why I‘ll probably get the P39 too at some point. My buddy has one and I absolutely love it, i think it’s awesome. The only reason I haven’t got it yet is because I‘m actually waiting for two watches🤞🏻 and I told myself I‘d wait until I get at least one of both, before buying something else.
I agree i do think this myself thats why i didn’t buy a 5 digit sub and opted for the new iteration. And yes the pelagos is an excelente everydayer and a fantastic tool watch not to worry about scratches! Thanks for sharing your thoughts
The sub will hold its value better from an AD... and gives you a date window. In all other aspects for me it's the P39 that wins.
nice points of view ! thanks for commenting!
What do you mean by „hold its value better from an AD“? I‘m sure it will hold its value better but what does the AD have to do with that? Regarding the date window, i suppose the no date sub would have been more apples to apples, but he happens to own the date version.
@@Bisley1 I mean if you can buy a sub at retail price form an AD then its a sound investment (you would recoup if you needed to sell). As you'll be aware though, you cant just walk in off the street and buy a Rolex, especially not a sports rolex. Grey market is different however.
I’m one of the weirdos that love a date function. I have a 126610lv, but I’d give it up for a Pelagos 39 with date. The Pelagos fits better with my lifestyle, but I need the date. Great video.
The size of the PELAGOS looks better on your wrist. The matte finish of the bezel on the Pelagos vs the shine of the Sub is also better looking on your wrist.
I'd take the Seamaster 60th over all those other watches personally.
Hahaha its an incredible watch the seamaster 60th! I got to have the NTTD on the channel and compare those two
Get the Uncle straps jubilee titanium bracelet. No scratches (or at least they don’t show) and even more comfort.
when i was prepare to buy that bracelet it was out of stock =(
I have an OG 2-liner Pelagos and it’s amazing. I tried on the 39mm and it felt too light (which is saying something given how light the 42mm Pelagos is). I also have a Hulk and I love that watch too. Between a Sub and a 39mm Pelagos, I’d keep the Sub (I like the date complication… it’s useful… functionality trumps form/design IMHO).
i have 2 tone sub 41 and pelagos 39. im wearing the pelagos during the week. these dats i want less flash at work. also at the gym, its as light as a smart watch i cant even feel it
Uuuu very nice! That is an incredible combo!
Sounds like you have more passion for the Submariner. Keep it.
And don’t worry about scratches. Wear and enjoy it.
Thanks my man! I do love the sub.... what i like about the tudor pelagos 39 is that it just feels almost the same as a neovintage sub
Bro. size your watch correctly and you wont have that noise issue with the band. Curious why you have it adjusted like you do. Unless that is someone else's watch.
This is my watch and at the end the t fit was opened at the last point thats why it looked loose, the watch correctly sized it does the noise too. And i like to wear this one loose cause the bracelet is a bit sharp on the edges
@@AndySTWT Simply remove a link on the back end, re-adjust the diver extension, and your good to go.
Great Rewiew! Both are great Watches! Pelagos 39 is the perfect daily Watch, the Sub is more for the Flex! :)
What do u think about the Black Bay 54?
Hey! thanks! i have a video about the black bay 54 feel free to check it out! in my opinoin is the best tudor yet interms of craftmanshio and design and innovation por the brand
The Sub is a great watch. The Pelagos is great watch. Both Rolex products. The Pelagos has a great sporty look that you can dress up or down nicely. Not as much shiny flash as the Rolex.
I would not had that problem, I am anti Yankees⚾️ and anti Rolex. The way they have set their marketing does not appeal to me. I want a black dial divers watch and I am thinking about an Omega Seamaster 300 Pro or Pelagos 39. I already have r the Seamaster in blue dial, that is how much I enjoy wearing the watch. I do not have a Pelagos yet, I think I will buy the Pelagos 39 for Father’s Day last year. The way it looks, feel and wear is superb!! There is my answer!! My brother, great video!
I sold the subC because I could not wear it. lol. But it is a beautiful watch.
Tudor 🔥
what is the bezel action of the Ocean Rover 2 like compared to the Rolex Sub?
its very close .. very .. obvously the sub is the best bezel to turn seriously is buttery smooth and at the same time is clicky i dont know how to explain it! but the ocean rover is just very damn close
The only con I have with my submariner is the bezel numbers always look dirty
do you have the 40mm version?
@@AndySTWT 41mm
I’ve read you’ve stating this on multiple videos. Funny, because I often think my Pelagos 39’s lumed filled areas on my ceramic insert always looks dirty lol
"Super."
I don't think there is even a choice...the Submariner is a damned near perfect watch (and I've never liked the look of Tudors). But the Rolex prices? The prices are just ridiculous! I owned and wore a Sub as a GADA for over 20 years - skydiving, SCUBA diving, at the office, on the shooting range, it basically never left my wrist. But as the prices rose and rose, I could no longer justify it. I sold my Rolexes and bought Steinharts. And pocketed tens of thousands of dollars! The Steinharts make me perfectly happy.
IF I had the money... I'd go with the Tudor as I wouldn't want to be associated with the Rolex brand. I guess a Rolex would be compared to a Lambo which is too loud and attention grabbing. Usually associated with new money, Tudor is more subdued as a brand and would be more like a Porsche. Sure it will get attention but it's not as desperate as a Lambo if that makes sense. 🤣
Sell the Sub.. toooo bling bling!
I have a new video coming! Stayed tuned
Combine the explorer, Pelagos, and the SMP and you have the submariner !!!😂 the submariner is a 1 watch collection! As a watch enthusiast you probably will choose 3 watches over 1
Another option is to keep the submariner and the explorer, and sell off the Pelagos and SMP😢
Haha totally agree! I dont wanna brag or anything but thankfully i can afford to have this 3 watches…. For now…. 🤣 i think the 60th anniversary is worth its place in my collection and i can say its staying there. I dont see at any point selling this one…. Onless! I want it to change this for a NTTD 😅
Oh man…the NTTD is the Pelagos but in SMP format!!!here is another solution: keep sub, sell pelagos get the NTTD!!!!
Submariner=iconic
NTTD=neovintage/tool
60th = special
i think theyd still rob you the tudor still a $4000 dollar watch
Sure but not targeted like rolex. That could be just a random robbery on tudor
Keep both 😂😂😂
Im gonna! 😂😅
Keep sub….sell the 39 and buy the 54😂.
Fake rivet in the bracelet is a major letdown tho
Agreed! Just got the 54. It is awesome
@@sergiosomma7465 what do u like about the bb54?
@@robbasilio7235 I love the vintage feel and look with the modern perks. Understated but beautiful styling, sunburst dial, slim comfortable case, and Tfit clasp.
@@sergiosomma7465and a great Rubber Strap!
Take the Submariner all day
How dare you not show the lume!!!
HAHAHa sorry about that! i totally forgot!!!
Sub all day every day!!!
Get rid of the rolex
Sell the Sub and get a GMT or Speedy.
You know whats good! Haha
@@AndySTWT Easy since I don’t own one of these yet :).
so much bullshit
Why is it bullshit? I want to learn so i don’t make the same mistakes in my next videos! Thanks for interacting!