We make a full size inertia car toy - how far will it roll?
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If Vlad says something is imbalanced, take his word for it. The guy welded a rail to a flywheel LOLOL
It's not super impressive when you realize they had the center hole burned at the same time as the O.D so it's concentric as long as you use the right size shaft.
Then again Vlad is the madman behind all these various different experiments he and the crew tried throughout the years, so he's definitely the wild wacky DIY type person who comes up with batshit crazy ideas whether they make sense or not lol
Vlad is the Hackdaddy Deluxe.
@@joshuagibson2520 😆👌
LOLOL
Im guessing that for every 15 minute video. There has to be at least 40 hours of preparation/fabrication associated with the build. These guys invest an incredible amout of time in these projects. And i like the detail- rebar welded onto the bearing plate to hopefully prevent the enertia wheel from flying off in the event of a failure. 😮😮
In the 1950’s a British company manufactured small buses powered by an inertia wheel. Biggest issue was turning due to the precession. They tilted it to help. One country ran them for decades. They could transport people for a good distance. The bus route had two charging stations.
This is super interesting. Do you know how they were called?
@@biohazard8295 check out the GyroBus. It had a small electric motor and would pass by charging points that would use the motor to spin up the flywheel.
Correct me if I'm wrong but I believe it was called the "Gyro-bus," though it'd be interesting to see if there was another manufacturer that utilized this technology.
If I remember correctly. They recharged the flywheel at each station. But it was eventful cancelled because the power needed to spin up the flywheel was more then cost of conventional engines. Also the distance was that impressive so it was mandatory to spin them back up at each station or risk running out before the next stop.
Interesting idea and can probably be improved upon with today's technology
The Parry People Mover (class 139) which operates on the Stourbridge Town shuttle service it powered by a flywheel system. A small LPG fuelled engine spins up the flywheel which is supplemented by regenerative braking.
Well, that's one way to keep people from tailgating you! The threat of a giant flywheel sawing their car in half should keep them off your ass! 😆
weld a big wrench onto your bumper so it looks like it can slide off at any monent. works well too XD
Having been involved in a "flywheel separation event" and caught the result first hand, this one is a bit unnerving to see. *Always* make sure you are out of the plane of rotation (with some extra margin just in case).
I'm all about the typical mayhem these guys like to have fun with... I'd like to keep enjoying it.
You've never driven in Los Angeles or Boston, have you?
@@MadScientist267 I was glad to see it was running in reverse, worse comes to worse it should go away from the driver.. but tailgaters would get what they deserve :) . What's the next step? Balancing and vacuum chamber/protection cage I reckon.
@@robmanueb. My main concern was that it might fly into pieces which would have gone in all directions along that plane, convincing anything in its way to go along with it... and the angles of *that* material wouldn't be so "pure".
That said for this specific video, and I think Vlad may have caught on to this as well... he was just off center enough and it didn't quite reach hair raising speeds... but I don't think anyone should ever push that any further. I was relieved to see that they resisted the urge to really spool it up.
It's this kind of fooling around that leads to true innovation. Never stop!
Please balance the flywheel and test at highway speeds! This is so amazing.
YES
That would be fun , but I suspect that might be highly dangerous.
Especially given the car is cut up to accommodate the giant flywheel.
The speed of the wheel would be scary at 6000 rpm, and it may be faster than that. Belt slippage would kill it . They do chains……..
Doesn't matter how well they balance it, there's just too much centrifugal force here for this to even think of getting to highway speeds. Those bearings would never be able to handle it. And even if they could, they'd never be able to turn with that thing at speed, either.
They’re not qualified to do that safely. Would require legitimate engineering with some actual figuring, and every part of it would have to be rebuilt accordingly.
Another crazy idea i never could have imagined! That's why i love these guys.
Flywheel vehicles do/have existed. Look up the Gyrobus.
But what Garage 54 did was directly drive the wheels from the inertial energy, which is less common from what I know. Most use the flywheel to turn a generator which then powers an electric motor.
@karlwithak. That would actually be pretty damn cool! On a long race you could also time coming in for a pit stop to spin up the flywheel as part of your strategy.
But yeah, with random public smashing the cars around and the lack of maintenance that comes with things like that it wouldn't be a good idea safety and liability wise... But I'd still drive one.
These guys are crazy, and I mean that in a good way. I would of never thought about a project such as this. And I got the ibbie jibbies Everytime someone got behind that spinning disc. If that sucker came loose, holly cow, I don't even want to think about it! I wonder how many walls that rascal could go through.
@karlwithak. Just stand clear and we will all be okay.
It's Russia🇷🇺
Ok, the inertia car is a sucess!
Now try making a pull-back car! LOL
Too damn many changes in direction with those multiple differentials. Any change in vector results in losses and they all add up.
A CZcams called Joel creates did this, very difficult
Find a way to use bungee cords and a sprag clutch. That'd be awesome.
Pure science! What a fun project.
I would love to see a project similar to a toy car I had as a kid, it looked like a VW Beetle and the only thing it did was to open the hood when you pushed it forward, its a simple mechanism like the one from the engine valves, its a groove on the front wheel shaft that pushes the hood up after a full cycle, we called it the "chomp chomp car"
I had 1 that flapped all the doors boot and bonnet when pushed along 😂 now that would be cool to see
I had a VW beetle toy car as a kid, the body plastic detached at the front and the lower chassis part was only held on by the rear bumper clips... I'd run around the house flapping it around like a pac man when I wasn't using it as a car 😂
It was one of my favorite toy cars for years, even though it was so basic, just 2 plastic molds with 2 axles snapped in.
@@volvo09Sounds like a good memory. :)
I still have a couple of those!! From the 50s and 60s! They were made by Bandai. 👌🤣👍
I collect hot wheels. I have a Beatles submarine and the jurassic world dome car matchbox. And some of those micro sets from movies, the Harry Potter one, the fast 9 one, and the back to the future ones
You guys are amazing! This is an idea, I thought about since I was a kid!. Would a heavy flywheel that was perfectly balanced and, engaged through braking, then dis-engaged as I stopped. And when re-engaged, accelerate the car from a dead stop, saving fuel. And here it is right in front of me! You built it! Your mechanics are excellent inventors and craftsmen. Thanks for building a dream I had some 60 years ago!! I can be done!
Same but for my bike
Thank you fellas for the upload, it was very entertaining, much love from the UK.
And thank you BMI Russian for the voice over and translation, you are a legend!!
I believe they are also thankful for your ad views and support of Russia. Every view you contribute is essentially a bonus to the Russian state budget.
@@NDAndrey if that's the case then you have done the same by clicking on this video so thank you for your support buddy :)
@@IvyMike. Advertising from Ukraine is very cheap, unlike in Europe or the USA. Plus, ADBLOCK.
@@NDAndrey Im not quite sure what you mean by that mate as we dont pay to watch the advert, the advertisers pay per monetary view! so doesn't matter where you watch it from the advertisers pay the same amount. Sensing a little bit of delusion if you think this makes a difference in a WAR. Before you try get smart again i also run ADBLOCK. Still helping the channel with your view and multiple comments, so once again mate thanks for your SUPPORT ;) im sure Garage 54 appreciates it !!
@@NDAndrey right, and every bottle of Coca Cola anyone buys anywhere in the world contributes to the bombing of Yemen if we're going to have a stretching contest🙄
No clue how you don't run out of Ideas
It's the Siberian A-Team, they can't run out of ideas.
They often get ideas from CZcams commenters like yourself.
Our comments help for sure!!
@@iknowyourebrokeauto468 i think they only read thr comments on the russian channel, i have suggested some brilliant ideas before
A community of commentators spanning across many continents and languages
Make a quick release shaft for the flywheel to launch it like you did for the spinning tire launcher a while back.
🤣🤣 I like that. 👍
Your content is what youtube is for imo , Great stuff fella"s !
here in sweden volvo busses have this to save fule. on start and stop in the citys. if i remember right its used as a brake to stopp and when leaving the built up inertia is used to accelerate
FAKE: I've never seen a flywheel mounted on a bus like this. What? You think it would be safe to have a gigantic spinning wheel strapped to the back of the bus with people walking everywhere? Obviously what you are saying is fake!
@@swedishpsychopath8795"Volvo's flywheel bus could lead the way" ~ Commercial Motor, page 27, 14th June 1980
@@swedishpsychopath8795 so have you ever seen a lada at the bus stop.. it´s not mounter external. 🤣🤣
I'm sure I watched that exact explanation on "Tomorrow's World" on British TV decades ago
Can't find it, bit did find a preview of "Popular Science May 1961" containing fine detail of a brake regen flywheel system for UK double deckers...
With that thing spinning at high speed it will become very difficult to turn the car due to the gyroscopic effect.
This problem was present in the Gyrobus produced in some countries since 1950.
it will understeer like crazy
They could rotate it to spin on the z axis and it would double as stability control lol.
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need to try inertia braking, engage the belts when coming into a turn to slow down, then change the ratio between the flywheel and the tires and put that energy back into speeding up after the turn. There was a race car that played around with this a while back.
Good idea. 👍
The race car couldn’t overcome the wheel’s inertia in the corners. It wanted to go through the walls instead of turn
it was funny how it would slingshot forward after slowing down though. Yeah I wonder if they thought of that beforehand @@bigfuzzzybear
It was the Audi R18 that had this tech. And it DOMINATED.
I was thinking of one of the Dyson Lolas in like 2010@@Spadookie
Steering, slalom test with the fly wheel!
So much fun watching you guys. It's amazing the inventions you come up with and how you make them work... usually. What's even more amazing is how you do this in what seems to be permanent winter!
Pretty dangerous! but you know, a bit of rebar welded over the axle incase it lets loose, good to go! 2 minute montage = 2 weeks of careful welding and balancing and figuring out the ratios, always impressive how much effort they put into each video.
Killer! Maybe try a full-scale pull-back toy next?
You guys are awesome!! Been watching y’all for YEARS now. I’m glad y’all are keepin’ on despite it all 👍
You men are really smart ! I've heard of this idea before ! I've been told by some Europeans that they have seen this concept before in their countries . There are still countries / cities etc in Europe that happily use this concept in their transit system . It's a really simple idea , but it certainly works !
it's like a mechanical capacitor
It's a battery not a capacitor.
@@XtreeM_FaiLIt's actually just a large piece of steel
@@justin2221 Which store energy and release it slowly when needed.
Solves our problems of storing sunlight during the day to release at night
there used to be city buses here in the US that used flywheels for a power source. this should be a cool experiment.
Love this channel. Answering automotive questions nobody sober would ask but everyone wants to see.
Could you somehow connect the flywheel to a 4 speed transmission? Maybe the gear reduction could be used to spin up the flywheel as well as power the car.
Balance it better.
This is seriously dangerous, the amount of energy stored in that wheel is insane.
And that's exactly why I'm watching 😊
My father, brother and I all came up with a few alternative designs for automobile propulsion in the early '90s, and one of them involved a flywheel in place of a battery. All of our design ideas were small turbine engine over electric, with DC motors at each wheel for AWD. Battery tech wasn't there yet so we came up with compressed air or flywheels for storing the energy generated from the turbine generator and the regenerative braking. Pretty cool watching someone build and test a crude prototype of that idea. It works way better than I expected it to.
7:43 shaking like he drunk too much vodka yesterday :D
I've always wondered about this when they first came out, I'm so glad we got to see this, thank you
Heres a idea What if you redo the test but make the flywheel smaller and make speed holes so it's lighter and off course balance it
I love these projects that combine a really goofy idea with the skill to actually make it work - classic 107% success from Garage 54!
You have great program, you, and your crew, are very talented, in in solving all problems,
That was very interesting. I would never have imagined it would actually work. Nice job guys.
I had this idea as a child when the car breaks why dont we connect it to a spring and we can gain momentum? anyways nice video
i love your sense of fun. these people are the kids that have never grown up.
And today on "I Have Too Much Free Time"!
I *love* these wacky concoctions! 🤣
Very interesting Sir.....I take my hat off to you.
Nick from the UK.
It’s good to know the “YOOOOOOOOOOO!!” of excitement is known universally
That was awesome. Great video
That is terrifying. Good job guys!
Everything about this video takes me back to my junior high school shop days.. the shit we would attempt was incredible! It was rue imagination to reality, regardless if it was practical or insane! Thanks for this video!!
I think it was Volvo who did something like this just before electrification and hybrids became popular. They called it the KERS or kinetic energy recovery system. A massive flywheel connected to the rear axle with a CVT so it can recover kinetic energy when slowing down (brakes applied) and then engage again from a stop to give the car a boost. A really cool mostly mechanical idea.
Its neat to see it implemented so simply here.
I wonder how much that actually affects gas consumption. Insaine that people even think of things like that
Williams bought a company to make an F1 kers based on a flywheel ( which has been used in buses), it made it to some le mans cars.
Pretty cool Vlad thanks for sharing
Too Cool for words! You guys rock. Cheers.
Yep this was definitely done in russia. Didn't even attach an emergency braking system to the inertia wheel in case problems arise.... Could you imagine that thing spinning at $3,000 RPMs or faster and they have a mechanical malfunction with the engine or the belt system? That wheel would literally continue to spin the rest of the day and probably vibrate itself loose tearing everything to pieces...
This is something you would see done only in Russia or rural America.
Isso ai rodando muito rapido sera que interfere ao virar uma curva ?
this channel is awesome. I've been watching this since before. more amazing ideas please.
We once had a cable excavator at the gravel pond. It only had a 100 hp engine that drove a flywheel. I don't even know if it's hydraulic or electric. It was an old device whose winches had to be controlled via clutches. There was only one person who could operate this machine. It was still interesting because the load peaks were absorbed by the flywheel and the engine was driven with little load. This then brought the flywheel back up to speed in the phases with little or even negative load (e.g. when lowering).
Okay....you want me to share some comments and suggestions. Let's start with your design of flywheel. Flywheels do not have to be a giant diameter, to get the job done. You can make a small diameter, wider, extremely heavy flywheel. It would be much easier to balance it, as well. That way, your gear ratio that you're using currently would work much better because you're spinning your flywheel at 10 times the RPM, safely. Another suggestion. You could spin it up with a small engine, like a 420cc, and connect the flywheel to the manual transmission, just like the motor would... and that way you could shift through the gears while your gyro is spinning..... just some food for thought, I'd like to see you guys try some of these ideas.😏👍
Love this guys show . Thankyou.
Love you guys engineering!!!!
I've always wanted to try this, thanks for sharing your idea. Gotta balance it and get some major rpms. Then it will perform.
You guys make the coolest stuff
Now, what would make this complete would be a set of carbide cutting tips from a stump grinder. Perfect for anyone who can't keep a safe distance from the rear of your car!😂
i really admire your work
Very cool idea and very good implementation of it! Maybe with a few tweaks it could be a viable method of secondary propulsion
This is a childhood dream great job to everyone involved
This channel is amazing I love the work you guys do so creative and cool
This was awesome guys
wow, you guys do it once again!🤯🤩🤩🤩
7:50 Love it, safety tirst😂
Ikr I was terrified watching him stand so close to all that mass on the move!😱🙂
flywheels are such a cool way to store energy, would love to see how much this thing can store when properly balanced.
brilliant test: no surprise, there are buses that are powered by flywheels (they make them spin at the parking site)
You could try to spin the wheel by braking (applying the inercia wheel "clutch" while running, starting with the wheel stopped). This would be like "regenerating braking".
inertia hybrid. regen braking then launch with flywheel power
Volvo did something like this a decade or so ago with prototypes. The engine spun a disk to thousands of RPM and then from a stop the car used the inertia to get it moving, all in an effort to save gas without a hybrid system. Of course it never made it to market.
Have it "spool up" while driving and use it with a pto or transmission that you can use on the fly like mechanical nitrous oxide for extra power on the fly
These guys are living the life we would like when we were kids❤
Finally someone made the project, that me as a kid wanted to do!
Toy car made full size. Love you guys. What's next? At this point,I can't even imagine.
Very interesting concept, keep going!
You blokes are legends, great experiment , great effort , obviously the little car has limitations, but it makes me wonder if maybe a small commercial vehicle like a utility with a chassis could support maybe two flywheels or even 3 and how far it could go.
Thanks CB for posting.
there were quite a few designs like this in practice around the world.
one of the most successful was ran off electric. they basically had power lines they would run off overhead. in certain areas to spin the discs back up. then it would continue to run for a while finish its circuit and its the power station again.
I wonder how diameter and weight comes into play. Also, with that much extra weight on the drive wheels, I doubt lack of traction will ever be an issue. This channel is awesome! The amount of efforts put into these ideas are greatly appreciated. bearings and parts aren't cheap, and the time spent fabricating adds up quickly.
If you look at the equation for kinetic energy, you notice that increasing the speed increases the energy to power of two. So from that point of view, it is better to make the flywheel turn really fast. But of course it needs enough mass too.
These guys aren't running out of crazy ideas which is actually worth watching 😂
Oh nice, I had that exact idea for years, but no means to make it real. Happy to see it.
YOU BOYS ARE SO CLEVER.
You guys are amazing ❤
OUTSTANDING!
Cool idea, it would be interesting to see this taken further. Really spin that flywheel.
Ahhh those posters are awesome
Another great video boys, keep it up from here in the UK👍🏼👍🏼
I love old eastern bloc vehicles, I have a CZ and a Voskhod motorcycle, I’d love a Lada but they are very rare now in the UK!
Привет друг из города где делали эти мотоциклы) У нас тут ещё много целых "Восходов"😊. На моей аватарке последняя из выпущенных моделей до прекращения производства.
That’s a interesting bike Alex, I’ve never seen that model? mine is a Voskhod 2 but fitted with the early round barrel. My dream is to find an IZH planeta and Jupiter but again they are very rare in the UK.
That thing looks like a Darwin Award in progress, you couldn't pay me to get in that car
Awesome ideas and brainstorming. Very entertaining as always. Just a quick question for you. Do you ever get around to doing paid work?
These guys ideals always make me laugh
NOW!!!!!THAT'S COOL STUFF 😮
The simplest way to balance the flywheel is to make a jig that will support it from the center while it is horizontal, first.
Suspend that jug from one of the shop lifts by a cable or chain.
Make sure the jig is perfectly centered.
The heavy side will obviously be lower.
Place counterweights at the opposite end.
They do not have to be perfect, just use them in pairs and move them apart until the balance is perfect.
Weld them into place, and that should take care of the balance problem.
To be really close to perfect, pair the weights, and weld half size weights in one side, flip the shell, and do the balance again.
Weld the weights on the opposite side, and it should be near perfect acidly as well, which will take out a lot of precession from the spinning wheel.
I have been waiting for someone to do this 😍💓❤️
Love what you do! Charlottesville, Virginia USA
Garage 54 is going to be a vendor in the next Fallout game
It's interesting how you can basically store energy like a battery using this method. Just like a battery if you keep it charged it will be able to use that charge for a time before it needs to be re-spun.
Flywheels always so deeply fascinating and equally terrifying, the DNA knows how powerful heavy mass rotating rapidly is
Spinning the wheel would be a lot easier on the clutch if you started driving with the belts loose, and put tension on the belts once underway.
Also, balance that wheel and really get it going.
Look at buying a used industrial wood chipper; they are a large thick steel disc and bearings meant to cope with significant rotation speed and dynamic loads.
You did a good job.
I would like to see how much energy can be stored when coming to a stop. This works like a hybrid/ electric vehicle with brake regeneration. Much of fuel loss is in initial take off. Storing and releasing the energy during stop starts would be awesome for fuel economy in non electric vehicles. Brakes are optional!
I love looking at the bad welds on the frame and then noticed more on the transmission stand supporting it all. I absolutely love East European engineering, forever getting the job done!!❤❤❤
It`s not Eastern Europe, it`s Asia, the guy is Russian.
You guys are quite entertaining !