Can the Vulcan 650s be dethroned by a Stupid 500 Rebel?
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After watching so many Honda Rebel 500 reviews on CZcams, I am now convinced (with this video) to buy a Honda Rebel 500 as my first bike.
Same actually
Same
Same
Same, waiting for the 2020
Same here i was at first going to get a sport bike but now leaning more towards the cruiser style bike
I got a rebel 500 as a return to biking after 20 years. It's awesome. It's fun. It's fast enough and it is just a bike I won't sell. It's my day to day bike.
Same here, except I took a 30 year hiatus. I have a vstrom 650 and I'm pretty sure I can take that Honda.
Hey...that could be a new video.
V Orlando - +1 on the V-Strom 650. It is absolutely fantastic!
Just saw a Honda Rebel in the bed of a Dodge Rebel... Rebel-ception.
And that's how rebels are made
Horace Reid ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
They put the starwars rebel emblem on it
That would be a Ram Rebel, not a Dodge.
In the midnight hour......she cries.....With a rebel yell.....
I do get amused when reading arguments for and against bikes. Every individual facet of every different bike will appeal to someone, somewhere. The Rebel for example is like Marmite, you'll either love it or hate it. When you are young, 9 times out of ten you will want a sport bike. When you are older and your body is starting to tell you that it's not going to be playing along any more with your mid life crisis plans, you'll be after a cruiser! It's like those evolution of mankind images that you see, where the apes are bent over and through time as man evolves, he gets taller and straightens up. That is the evolution of a biker!!! I chose the Rebel purely for it's ergonomics, and secondly for it's looks. BTW I'm 53. For me it's perfect. I have no concerns as some people do, about longer or shorter gears, and whether it accelerates faster than this bike or that bike. I will be riding it on the road, and so none of that is relevant. All it needs is to be comfortable, stylish, functional, sound half decent, and have enough power to get out of trouble. The Rebel ticks all of those boxes.
If you don't mind my asking, how tall are you, and what is your weight? I am prepping for my license and will be a first time rider - and slightly older than you. Comfort is huge with me as well. I'm 6'3" and 240 pounds with a 36 inch inseam and big feet. Like you, I would ride casually - not race people. Given that, would the Rebel 500 be one to consider?
@@georgeklimes7604 My first thought is that it would be a bit cramped for you, but having said that, my son is 6'3" and he is fine on it. Mind you he is only 19, and currently riding a Benelli TNT!! I am 5'10" ish, and about 190lbs, and its fine for me. My only real problem is too much knee angle causes me problems ( too much football at a younger age!), but the rebel is ok for me in that regard. I think it depends on your flexibility. I have watched a review on here from a guy similar in height to you, and he said that because the tank rises quite high at the front, you don't feel out of place on the rebel. He also said he was very comfortable on it and not cramped up. In all other aspects its perfect. Very easy to ride, smooth as silk engine, and so far a comfy seat. I haven't been on a really long ride yet (over 90 mins), so I can't really comment on other people saying that the seat gets uncomfortable after a long ride.
As a first time rider like myself, I would say that the Rebel is perfect. It's not scary and has no nasty surprises waiting. You can see out of the mirrors, which is always helpful, and it has enough power to make it fun. All I can say is take one for a test ride if possible, or at least sit on one in the dealers. The only other consideration I would make, is that if you are considering taking a pillion in the future, it's not the most comfortable bike for them to sit on, as it has a really small pillion seat. I think you can swap that out though for an aftermarket one.
Andy, I love your comment, and agree with you philosophically...which I find amusing, because I prefer the Vulcan S. But, I see the temptation of the Rebel. And, for the record, if the boys at SRK are watching, if they're giving one away, I'll take either. I'm not THAT picky! :-)
@@georgeklimes7604 You have to sit on the bike yourself to know that. However even if you choose something like a Rebel and you get a leg cramp from the position you are in, which does happen, its not a bad thing, its a part of riding. It goes away. Your body will adapt to the form factor of the bike. You just need to relax as a rider first...But if you are tall I would consider sitting on the Vulcan S and it will be easier on your back due to the angle. I'm considering the Vulcan for the ride angle compared to my other bikes.
I like a balance of performance and comfort,, a supernaked for me is perfect. but later on I think I'll go for something more like a dual sport or adv
What I like about the Vulcan though is that it has seat and foot adjustments for different size riders.
Rebel 500 is a sweet lil bike. What your boy at 13:06 was talking about was that the subframe loops straight under the seat so there's no need for a chop and weld to remove the rear fender, just undo some bolts whack a tail light and plate holder on it and you've got a custom bobber. Really forward thinking from Honda and definitely targeting the Grom crowd with fun, fast (relative to size) and stylish city scoots
Great vid as usual guys! thanks! I've got a 17 Rebel 500 in black and just installed a ceramic black TBR exhaust and OMG! Really awakens the inner beast in this bike! Highly recommend!
I love both bikes. I think the Rebel is perfect for the urban city. Being only 400 lbs, you do get blown around on the freeway. The Vulcan is good all around. Very good for the city and being 100 heavier, it's fine on the freeways. I prefer the look of the Rebel being a bobber fan.
Couldn't agree more! Cross wind factor to be considered while doing interstate riding like 120kmph heavier motorcycle feel much more planted and stable less tiring.
I think you're spot on with that. I'm looking at the Vulcan 900, as I do a fair bit of highway miles. Plus elevation changes plus or minus 800' or so, so i'm interested in just a little more horsepower. But, urban riding...the rebel is hard, if not impossible, to beat.
@@just-dl Are you at all tempted with the Rebel 1100?
@@Alexanderyhwong had i known of it, yep! my internet searches are about to cause the lights to dim! thanks for the idea!
Not a bad argument, until you ride with someone sitting in the backseat...... no room on the Rebel for a comfortable ride for two.
I was totally expecting the Vulcan to simply walk away from the rebel. Seriously surprised.
Yep agree , expecting the 650 to have a much better pull off the mark but the Honda at 500 cc punched above it’s weight
But after launch it was just so much faster .. imo
It's not the rebel is faster but the rider on 650 is terrible lol
The last pull near the end of the video shows the difference a rider makes. The Vulcan walked away like the Rebel was dragging a Grom.
Yea the Vulcan S walks all over the rebel. The dude on the rebel can't ride for shit.
Loved it! My Vulcan 500 en (1994) is a brilliant everyday bike. Not done a long journey yet but she’s so easy for a novice rider like myself
Great review guys, love your style of comparison. Switching rides, honest, fun reviews. Super !.
This video really made me appreciate how well spoken Sean is
I've waited for this comparative review and it was totally worth it. Nicely done mates👍🏿👍🏿
Just bought my first bike, a 2022 Rebel 500. Love it!! Rode dirt bikes for 10 years but never on the road, this thing is just as fun and looks the part !!!!!
Didn't expect the Honda to keep up with that 650vulcan s at all!!!!Awesome vid guy's!!!!
Great video, gracias, my first bike 2018 rebel 500cc I’m 64 years old. Love this bike.
Absolutely LOVE my 2018 Rebel 500.....I'm 6'5 ~220lbs, and the thing moves well. Its my first bike, and I ride every chance I get. Puts a goofy smile on my face every I give it heavy throttle, and it makes me laugh that it has the looks of a cruiser, but sounds like a sport bike when you wind it out.Could ask for a better bike to start out with.
Tim I’m 6’ 3” , did u make any changes bcuz if your height? Or was stock good?
You're 6'5 and ride the Rebel??? Are you comfortable?? Are your knees up to your elbows???
More fun to ride a slow bike fast than a fast bike slow
Neither of these are fast bikes..
@@Real_MisterSir That's what he was saying.
but its also more fun to ride a fast bike fast than a slow bike fast
All motorcycles are beautiful and fun, so don't argue on this stupid things, everyone chooses which bike they wants! Peace
Moto Poetry
No words of wisdom today?
Great video though, I loved this one, start to finish.
Agree, great video since no cheesy words of wisdom
Hey man, I've been thinking about getting a rebel 50p as my first bike, I'm from Gap,Pa and watching you ride around there makes me want one even more!
You guys sold me. I was looking at bikes to get back on two wheels and teach my son on. I think i found my winner. I think what i was afraid of when looking at the new rebel was considering the lethargic nature of the original line up. Thanks guys.
I got me the spring fever today there's still snow on the ground but the roads are cleared off good especially the highway so I hopped on my Rebel it started right up first time this season no hesitation just vroom anyways rode about 20 mi and it was about 45 degrees I feel a lot better now. I'll get the fever again tomorrow it's supposed to be 50. Love your vids. I hope you have a great season.
Im happy that you both sound like very good buddies :) keep up the bromance
to much beard and boxy for you :-p
Really love the head to head videos!
I got the Vulcan, I like the looks better, it’s got more power, better for highway use (which is most of my driving), the fact I can adjust so much so the bike fits me better, and I’d assume the Vulcan probably has better aftermarket support considering they have sport bikes with the same engine. I daily mine, although winter is coming and along with it… snow, so not for much longer. Anyways, I think I’m keeping the bike forever lol but I do want to get a sport bike for more fun occasional usage.
Dudes, God bless thee for Makin this video. Just bought a rebel few hours ago. 300 miles later I saw the light. This bike is what I needed to revive my interest in bikes. I come from big ass gee-esses, which I realized are not as awesome as I believed them to be. This bike is just perfect if you're honest with yourself.
Love the vids. My son graduated from Landisville hs about 10 years ago. He lived just a few miles from your shop. Cool. Beautiful Lancaster pa
Seans way better at racing then all of them. He wins no matter what bike he rides. They need to find someone equal to Sean's racing abilities.
Yeah these comparisons are pretty useless.
Just bought (well, not just, but in May 2020) a 2020 Vulcan S and while I have not ridden the Rebel, I have absolutely nothing but positive things to say about the Vulcan. Love the looks and styling. It's ridiculously fast at the top end and has tons of torque down low. Great cruising at highway speeds. Amazing gas mileage (I use it to commute so it's important lol. 50+mpg). Light and nimble around town. The powerband seems to just goooo and gooo and goooo. The instrument panel is miles above other bikes I've ridden. I've gotten nothing but compliments riding it. And the price is great. Just my two cents. You'll be pleasantly surprised with the Vulcan S. It's a great bike.
When I was looking for a bike, the Rebel 500 was a serious consideration, but in person it felt kinda underwhelming and I ended up falling in love with the Vulcan S, which I now own and it's an awesome bike and well worth it. But it is nice to see if I had gone for my first choice, it'd have still faired pretty damn well.
Very honest review ...it’s what my mates do , ride each other’s bikes and compare the good points .
I am sorry, i had many bikes, I had a 750 shadow , before I bought my vulcan s, the vulcan is much faster! By far the fastest bike i’ve owned!
Sorry to hear that. Maybe you should get out and ride more bikes then. lol That’s not really something to brag about.
@@cfltitan bikes huh, i had. Suzuki calvacade 1400, drz 400, countless dirt bikes, quads, i think i know a little something about riding! Oh, and I started when I was 7!!! Thanks for the comment
I still wouldn’t break that a vulcan 650 is the fastest bike you’ve owned. Just saying. I never said you don’t know how to ride or aren’t a good rider.
I love it when you guys compare similar bikes!!
"That bike is the Miata of motorcycles." I'm sold. Get me one right now.
There appears to be a radical difference in the knee and hip angles between the two bikes too. The Kawa has you feet slightly in front while the Honda has 'em either under or slightly behind you (depending on your inseam). That's an important consideration for tall riders to pay attention to. Being 6'4" tall, I'd probably be more comfortable riding a long distance on the Kawa.
On another unrelated issue, Sean, why don't you take your bikes on the highway for an exit or two? Every buyer should always take a prospective bike on the highway to see how it handles there. You have no reason not to, too, since you live so close to one. Get with the program, man. :)
Mr. Solitude
Yup the Honda has that sitting on the toilet profile and the Kawi is more like you're sitting on a custom reclining crapper
Idk why they made the erganomics the same as the rebel 250. Made a whole new bike and frame and kept the one thing that was probably the worst thing about the old rebel. Dosent make much sense to make a crusier that will cramp anyone over 5 10. I think it's kind of a given though that all these new bikes are fine on the highway. I mean even the old 250 did the highway, the new ones would have no issue
You are totally right... I wish I could see this comparative in an highway. Nevertheless, I’m satisfied that at least someone did the rebel vs vulcan.
My wife is 5’ tall even, think she would prefer the Rebel due to her size
Thats some great constructive criticism.
In the market for my first bike and stumbled across your page. I'm just down the way in Manheim gotta stop by!
I have had a VS for five years, when I bought my bike it ended up being between a Rebel 500 and the VS 650, I liked the slightly bigger size of the VS but it was a hard choice as I felt both were great first bikes.
I'm looking at getting the Rebel 500 for a first bike. As you were riding around I thought things looked familiar. Then you said come ride with us in Lancaster and that was it. I live in Lititz lol! Great video....I think the Rebel 500 will be the bike I get.
Dreamweaver205 Rebel 500 is great bike. Just got one myself as a new rider and to me it’s totally comfortable and fast enough for the highway while also have a good looking bike
That Honda display tho! Great bikes but that display made me buy the KWS alone!
I started watching this video, and thought, this is pa, wait hempfield. They are in Lancaster county. Then you confirmed it later, nice
Well no shit. It's real clear where his shop is, it's written in the description
Cool video guys, I came back to watch it a second time a year later
Awesome review guys, thx!
the miata of motorcycles...true praise indeed! (yeah, I had one...fave car of all the ones i've ever had) - but, I want the vulcan s...
You hit the rev limiter on the Rebel 500 so could probably keep up if you didn't miss the gear essentially.. but yeah on paper the Vulkan 650 should have a better P/W ratio however if you do hit the gears perfectly, shift perfectly you can probably keep up until 100mph then the Vulkan should pass you by. Very impressed with with the Rebel 500 though, it's right up there with the Vulkan 650 and also 80 lbs (36kg) lighter. If they made a Rebel 650 or Rebel 750 it would be game over for many bikes in this class range.
Love the Rebel 500 ... I would mod it - make it more bare bones and even more Bobber styled ... awesome first Bike!
That was amazing was expecting the Rebel to be smoked.
1970 Kawasaki trail boss, 1975 Kawasaki 500 2-stroke triple, 1979 Kawasaki Z1000, 2006 Gizzer 1000, 2006 Kawasaki ZX10-R, many other Yamaha, Honda’s, Suzuki, have been bless to be able to have owned many many bikes. One of my bikes I now own is a Z125. It is crazy fun.
I’m stuck between these two bikes as my first. I have plenty of experience on dirt bikes throughout my life. With that said I think I would want the extra power from the Vulcan, but the Rebel just looks so damn nice and seems more enjoyable to cruise on. Also that yellow/green on the Rebel was damn sexy. Thanks for the vid. Just subscribed and I think I have made an entrance to the moto community. ✌️
im in your position now. what did you choose?
@@vsnyksame😂
@@leothefishingfreak2310 on Monday I put the deposit for Kawasaki Vulcan S. Hopefully I'll have it by mid September.
And how is your bike now? @@vsnyk
@@cocieto5139 I SO LOVE IT. A bit over 2500km on it between September and now. If I may recommend something: get a windshield even the smallest version, it's game changer.
Another helpful video thanks!
I like unbiased review with 2 awesome bikers. Cheers guys and #Subscribed btw
Great video seeing riders having so much fun
Good job on the video guys nice and clean fun. Great job.
Love my 2019 Vulcan S it goes once it hits 5 grand. For the price point great cruiser! 🤘😜🤘
This was a excellent video. ....The only thing I wish you would have done was a looks comparison.
Looks are subjective
Am I the only one who hears Titus listening to Shawn (Sean?) narrate? Great video. My son just got a '07 Shadow as a first bike and I've been learning to ride around my home turf on it but I'm sold on the Rebel for me. Looks FUN, lighter and better for day to day city traffic... at least for me.
Respect to y’all both I’m sold on both of them can’t go wrong with neither I love the Vulcan S look tho more then the 500 but the both look perfect for a beginner like myself
Guy on the rebel started accelerating before Vulcan dude in the second test
I have the very same yellow rebel, 2017 . The only thing I put on was a passenger seat . Denver co. I ride the roads and the waves
Common guys, so your happy to put the rebel up against the triumph rocket, Rebel is a great cost effective bike as is the Vulcan but the Vulcan really gets on it if you get on it if ya know what im saying, the Vulcan didnt see past 7500rpm
Why would you put a 480cc bike up against a 2300cc bike??? What would you be trying to prove?
@@LARGO125 Sean put the Vulcan up against the rocket and the Vulcan blew it into the weeds, hence why I said "come on" guys as if?
I'm digging the green on the Vulcan
At the light at 8:11 I was JUST thinking wouldn’t it be funny if they switched bikes right there? 😂
Great review guys
Gods on your side. Blinded the cop not only too your speeding coming over the hill, he was also blinded to the "Missing Plate" I noticed ya didn't have when the segment started. Wondered then weather you'd get through this ride without a ticket?
Hehe nice video!
I think I will buy a Vulcan s very soon, cheers, Gothenburg.
How did you record the audio as so natural between you guys when you are separated by distances?
I’ve seen some great customizations for the Vulcan recently. I love both bikes but if I had to choose it would be the Vulcan.
8:23 Kawasaki has this "safety feature" where if you drop your kickstand on first gear, it cuts the engine.
I think thats pretty much standard now My 600 suzi and my 1700 vulcan both do it.
It's inly held on by a Phillips head screw so what I did was pull it off cut the metal actuator switch and screw it back on. Its a convenient anti- Theft on off switch now
It's pretty much standard.
My 2002 Yamaha SR 125 has this as well.
All bikes have done that since about 1988 if its in gear..
Rebel does it also
Good review, Glad I watched till end cuz I was like how can they be that close when the vulcan s has 20hp more?
It's the gearing from a standstill the rebel would get smoked every time
I don't know why I here, I can't even affor it
Don't feel bad bro. I'm broke too
Same
Dayak War Fighter If you really want one be patient build credit and then finance one
We can afford to dream though!
Hehehe same here
The beauty is Vulcan’s full power comes up at 4000+ rpm making it the perfect bike for beginners as well advanced riders. You will outgrow Rebel pretty quickly.
I ride a DRZ-400S, and it’s fun for sure, but this Honda Rebel 500 is so awesome, super fun to ride, way faster than I thought (it has the CBR 2 cylinder engine in it) and way way smoother than my buzzy DRZ-400. I was so shocked how fun it was to ride and how balanced it is, and how much faster it is than my past Honda Shadow 750cc
Dave thata so true you nailed it...
I’ve been riding for 50 yrs,... I like that cmx 500. Maybe in a few yrs I’ll pick up a slightly used cream puff.
I will buy a Honda Rebel 500 abs as my First bike . Ive seen so many videos on cruisers and this one particularly bike has always caught my eye on every video so i will get this one first !!
I also want a rebel 500 but dont want to get bored of it since its my first
The 1100 is what i want but everyone says to start on the 500
what comm system are you two using?
Awesome video!
Check out walterifics videos also they may be using skype and recording
This was the nicest motorcycle video I've ever seen
I wish cops in my town were like that... Doing 80 with no Tags lol. Great video... You just got a new subscriber!
"I can't believe you're behind me.. and i'm smelling you!" hahah
I have a vulcan s 650 2019 and I love it verry good on the highway fast enough I used to have a suzuki s 40 boulevard good for city 380 lbs and maybe a little faster at first then my vulcan but on the highway no match
Both bikes are perfect and fun . I have a Rebel because I prefer the look but that's personal.
The Vulcan S is faster but I don't recommend buying one. I went from a Rebel to a Vulcan S because I was doing a lot of highway riding and I regret it. The Rebel is more fun.
Cool video like both bikes leaning moreo the honda NOw
Great review. I bought my Vulcan S on Saturday after riding my Rebel for about 10 months and sold the Rebel 500 on Sunday. Let me say that the Rebel is an incredible bike but there were a couple of things that I couldn’t get past. First is that the seating position had my feet under me which made the bike very uncomfortable even with a Corbin seat. Second is the position of the horn button relative to every other bike I’ve ever ridden. The blinkers is where the horn usually is. I know that it sounds like a very minor thing but many times going to honk my horn I hit the blinker button instead. That could be very dangerous.
You can change foot possition on bikes
I was actually shocked at the seating position. They made it essentially the same as the rebel 250 where your feet are too close and makes your legs cramped within an hour. Probably was my first complaint just sitting on the bike. Get some forward controls and it would be much better.
I’m 5’11 and the seating position is comfortable
Is Vulcan S seating more comfortable for you on stock seat? I've read many reviews that the Vulcan seat also makes it uncomfortable... I have rebel 500 and was thinking of upgrading to Corbin, do you say it's not worth the investment?
@@premavilasa The stock seat on the Vulcan S is TERRIBLE. I have since sold my Vulcan but I had put a Corbin seat which is much more comfortable.
Hey Sean, could you do a review on a z900 or z1000? I’d like to see how you grade them.. planning to get a z900 in a couple months . I’ve been riding a er6n for almost a year now, and I’m ready for my dream bike the z900 or Z1000
"I bet that Fiat wants to race!" :) lol
Which bluetooth system are you using to communicate in this video?
The Rebel is a perfect big city bike. It is easier to park. It can squeeze in tighter spaces. You don't give nearly as much of a shit if it got dinged up compared to having something like an Indian Chieftain or something higher end like that.
So which one should I buy for my first bike ?
These dueling videos are always fun. Not totally reliable of course because driver skill is a huge part. The fun and thrill of rivalry and the cop thrown into the mix was hilarious. Really enjoyed the video, but I'm looking for a video to help me find a starter for my sons. I think I'll recommend the Suzuki S40 or the Yamaha Vstar 650 rather than any of these. They may get in trouble with these.
What an amazing video :)
Maybe it's not selling because of the old 250 rebel... I saw one on campus and thought "What is that? It looks nice!" Then I saw "rebel" on the fender. Sales will probably pick up next year. Seems like they made a good bike.
Hi Mate, What do you use to talk to each other and where did you buy it please?
The thing that i hate about rebel is the fuel tank is smaller than vulcan's but if it was a bit bigger then it would be just perfect :)
Thats crazy the bore to stroke ratio on the ninja is much greater. Cant belive the rebel keeps up
I bought a dual sport for my first bike because I wasn't sure if I wanted to ride dirt or street. Still not completely sure after 2 years, but I do ride more street. I'm not sure enough to trade mine off ,I really like it. Maybe I'll be able to buy a 2nd bike in the future, but one thing I'm sure of , if I buy a street bike it will be one of these two.
What headsets are you talking with and also recording?
Loved the WOW!
You two are from Lancaster? Sweet! I'm about an hour away.
Weird how speed is defining a bikes worth as neither is a racing bike. My vulcan voyager is middling at best, but it is a fantastic bike.
i have a buddy ive been riding with since i started riding on a yamaha magnum 450. weve always switched bikes at intersections like that