I Built a Home EV Car Charger - Off-Grid, Battery Powered
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- čas přidán 11. 07. 2024
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Here I build an off-grid EV car charger for charging my car at home in case the power goes out. This will also save me money on higher ectricity costs due to having an Electric Vehicle. The all-in-one inverter is an EG4 6000 XP from LuxPower and Signature Solar. The battery is the EG4-WallMount Indoor Battery 280AH.
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FULL KIT
-Eg4 6000XP + Wallmount Battery Kit: signaturesolar.com/eg4-wallmo... ($50 Discount Code: RAY)
-Torque Screwdriver: amzn.to/3V5q7Iz
-2/0 Crimping Tool(Only needed for eg4 wall-mount batteries): amzn.to/3yp8Z7T
-MaxiFlex Nitrile Palm Coated Gloves...amzn.to/3J0K4JD (I love these)
-Outlet Nema 14-50(Hubbell as recommended in comments. More expensive but better): amzn.to/4bC1VU4
-Copper Ring Ring Terminals I used: amzn.to/4bVPthC
-HardieBacker Cement Backerboard...www.homedepot.com/p/James-Har...
Chapters
0:00 Intro
1:14 WW2 Gas shortage
1:56 Why I chose this EV Car Charger and EQUATIONS
7:10 Installing the EV Car Charger
14:31 Charging the Car for Battery.
16:45 Conclusion
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Contact info
If you want to get a hold you me you can email me at: diysolarpowerfunRay@gmail.com
I am not available for personal consulting. Please reach out to me in the video comments where I and others can provide feedback to you
Disclaimer
I am not a licensed electrician. Working with electricity is dangerous and can lead to injury or death, even when following documentation and instructions. I can not be held liable for such damage or injury. I am not giving or seeking to give advice on how to work with electricity. You should consult with a licensed professional whenever possible and get all work reviewed by an inspector and follow any local regulations in your area. I'm documenting my projects for informational purposes only. Electricity can kill you! BE CAREFUL! - Věda a technologie
*FULL KIT*
-Eg4 6000XP + Wallmount Battery Kit: -Eg4 6000XP + Wallmount Battery Kit: signaturesolar.com/eg4-wallmount-indoor-battery-280ah-51-2v-14-3kwh-eg4-6000xp-off-grid-inverter-bundle-8000w-pv-input-6000w-output-all-in-one-solar-inverter-bndl-e0009/?ref=DiySolarPowerFun ($50 Discount Code: RAY)
-Torque Screwdriver: amzn.to/3V5q7Iz
-2/0 Crimping Tool(Only needed for eg4 wall-mount batteries): amzn.to/3yp8Z7T
-MaxiFlex Nitrile Palm Coated Gloves...amzn.to/3J0K4JD (I love these)
-Outlet Nema 14-50(Hubbell as recommended in comments. More expensive but better): amzn.to/4bC1VU4
-Copper Ring Ring Terminals I used: amzn.to/4bVPthC
-HardieBacker Cement Backerboard...www.homedepot.com/p/James-Hardie-HardieBacker-0-42-in-x-3-ft-x-5-ft-Cement-Backerboard-220023/100170507?source=shoppingads&locale=en-US&pla&mtc=SHOPPING-BF-CDP-GGL-D23F-023_014_FLOOR_TOOLS-NA-NA-NA-PMAX-NA-NA-NA-NA-NBR-NA-NA-NA-FLR_TOOLS_PMax_G&cm_mmc=SHOPPING-BF-CDP-GGL-D23F-023_014_FLOOR_TOOLS-NA-NA-NA-PMAX-NA-NA-NA-NA-NBR-NA-NA-NA-FLR_TOOLS_PMax_G-71700000102945947--&gad_source=1&gclid=CjwKCAjw5ImwBhBtEiwAFHDZxwMtyPmNwzlnYSd0qJBYh-q60C99Ajdwp5HrKoocLJQHDQCmdVgGjBoCYPEQAvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds#overlay
In 2012 I bought an electric car and I already had an off grid solar system so all I did was plug it into my Solar shop and I have been driving around for the last 12 years without paying for electricity knowing that it comes from my solar system is very rewarding.
I hope this becomes hugely popular
Great video!! Really like what you’ve done there, I would suggest getting a Bryant/Hubble 14-50 plug and not use the 14-50 plugs you find at the hardware store. Watch Sandy Monroe’s video on the EV charging, regular plugs you find at the hardware store catch on fire/melt. I installed a Bryant brand which is made by Hubble to charge two EVs and haven’t had an issue.
This is Frank from California, you send me the foldable solar panel 👍
Oh sweet!! I remember. That was a fun one to package up :). Thanks for the suggestion!
This is a great video to show people that are getting started how simple and inexpensive it can be to power a car. The tax credits make it even easier. This is the same unit I want to get. I might add some lightning protection as well. Great job.
I got a $7,500 tax credit for my Tesla. This system with solar cost about $8,000. Time to put that credit to good use.
Great timing on the video. I have two small off-grid systems that run most of the house, but now I need to charge my plug-in hybrid. I'm doing 15 kwh of batteries and probably about 3 kW of panels, with a low frequency inverter charger to charge my Chevy Volt and be able to run my electric dryer which will get me closer to 100% off grid. Thanks for the video.
I am planning this exact build Ray, you beat me to it. I have used your code for other things twice so thanks for all you do.
Awesome, thank you!
Great calculations
We're off-grid with an EV. The regular house plug works well for now, but we'll switch to 220v for the winter.
FYI- Im in Same area code, I’ve got 10x370w panels. I see usually 3200w peak. And between 22-26kwh per day. I also picked up a lifepo4 Tesla rwd. Great car, great battery. And affordable with $4k off at point of sale.
Also, I’d highly recommend getting the Hubble brand 240v plug. The $10 Home Depot leveton has been known to burn things down when used for car chargers. About $57 on Amazon. Industrial rated. 3x the weight.
Thank you for the suggestion, I will link to that one in the description. I've heard of that but couldn't remember what it was called.
Definitely upgrade the plug especially if you're charging at the highest amperage. The plug should also be torqued to recommended rates.
Great setup. Gotta love the plug and play!
This is what I did in January except I used a few of the EG4 LLs rack mount batteries. If i did it again I'd pick the wall mount one you show here but it wasn't out yet. I set up a critical load panel like you said for my office, fridge, freezer, and a few other loads. And run a small AC unit during the hottest time of day when the EG4 batteries are close to 100%. Then I charge the car. I decided on a NEMA 6-20 outlet as it's close to the max 25 amps the 6000XP can output and I had the outlet already. I saved some on the wire size needed too. I don't mind waiting a little longer. The 14-50 though would be good for two 6000xp's running in parallel.
Why would you pick the wall mount battery, if you don’t mind asking? I am working on my set up and about to decide which battery to get. The EG4 rack mount I think will be better battery in case one of them dies and needs to be replaced.
@@lukimy2704 yes, from a redundancy standpoint the rack batteries are better. However I have very limited floor space where the system is located. One wall mount battery would take up far less space than 3 floor batteries and be a little cheaper as well. It's all about evaluating your available install space.
@@lukimy2704Cost per wh is better with these wall mounted unless you build your own batteries with raw cells.
I was contemplating bout getting the exact system you have with 6 , 400w panels . I also recently bought a 100kW electric vehicle. It seems easier enough for me to put together .
Nice, I think those panels will work in the summer but I think you might need four more for the winter with shorter days.
please explain to all your peeps that the original setting of the time to charge was 60% for the day, you changed it to 80%, Daily needs are always changing. I charge at 7kw for 10% an hour to fill up my Tesla battery, 25amps is pretty high, I normally add 18 to 40 % daily so I would need 2 batteries but some charging would be done from the solar array coming in, gonna install a Chiko carport in the back yard or build it DIY with 7200watts. That will get our cars charged quickly and efficiently. We have 2.5 electric vehicles looking to add a used Tesla model Y as well.Thanks for the video Ray.
What's the 0.5 vehicle? I like the Chiko, but it is expensive compared to a regular carport.
13:13 inspect the terminals yearly if you can.
You make great videos. I live in Utah as well, and I plan to go solar when I buy my own house. Did you have to do permits to get your system in place?
If you backfeed to the grid, you definitely have to get a permit. there are many people that don't get permits when doing electrical work around the house. However I plan on getting a permit for my main house solar system.... just in case I need to file claims on my homeowners insurance. I had the inspector come and look at my trenches last week and they were very nice. I don't think getting a permit will be as hard as I thought. But I'll keep you updated. Hope everything goes fine
@diySolarPowerFunWithRay Sounds great. Thanks for the wonderful explanation. I learn a lot from your videos. I am looking forward to updates on the permit.
Hi Ray, thank you for the video - it's detailed and informative. I tried setting it up similarly to yours but my Tesla Home Charger flashing red 2x indicating that it's doesn't have a ground. I did turn on the neutral bond option on the inverter itself. Do you have any tips on troubleshooting this?
I was getting the same error... I noticed the error in car's dashboard though. I enabled option 26 in the inverter and it started working. Are you sure you enabled option 26? The interface is kind of hard to navigate. You may also want to try restarting the inverter. Hope that helps
Hey Ray, I really appreciate your video! I wanted to chime in here to see your thoughts on using this exact setup for powering a camper + charging an electric truck when camping? Rather than a 14-50 plug, I'd wire in the Tesla universal wall connector. Is there any reason that this would be a bad idea? I'd most likely install this setup + charger on the ourside and give it it's own enclosure of some type for protection while driving/theft. Thanks!
So you're thinking of mounting this on the side of your RV camper? Or just at the RV site?
@@diySolarPowerFunWithRay I was originally thinking outside, on top of the front tongue area where there's room for a large generator but now I'm wondering if it would be best to mount it inside the camper and have a cabinet around it... Still thinking through this and very early in the idea phase
I have almost the same system. I got the same battery but got the outdoor model and the 18K inverter. Haven't installed it yet because I live by myself so not sure yet how to do this.
Great video!! Wonder why included cables are aluminum?? Plan to get same inverter/battery but may ask signature solar for copper wiring hookups over the aluminum & would then use copper lugs for proper installation.
It looks like I was mistaken on that portion of the video. Someone corrected me on this. After looking into this further it appears they are correct and these cables are actually super fine tinned copper. The cables are actually very heavy. I will edit that portion out. Thank you!
@@diySolarPowerFunWithRay Good thing for you too as you don't have to remove wires/lugs to replace now. 👍😀
@@InVinoVeritas. yup :)
Thank you for making this great video. My question is at 100% load when charging Tesla how loud the inverter are? And my another question is I am also thinking of off grid power for my house so the max 6000xp can out put is 6kw, so I probably need to 2 6000xp or eg4 18k. To have the capability to charge Tesla and power the house. Which inverter will you suggest 2 6000xp or 18k. ? Thank you.
That is a very good question. The sound of the 6000 XP at full capacity is hard to describe. I don't have a decibel meter but it is louder than I imagined it would be. Two of them would be fairly loud and you would want to take that into consideration in where they would be mounted.
It will definitely be cheaper to buy two 6,000xp's. But if you can afford it I would go with the 18K pv. The warranty is twice as long and I hear it is much more quiet. Hope that helps. 👍
I personally am going with 2 6000xp's for redundancy and cost.
Great video. Are you going to adjust your formula for 80% DOD, or are you going to run it down to zero? That battery is rated at 8000 cycles at 80%.
thanks. I think I'm going run mine down to 10%...Maybe zero not sure. 8000 Cycles is around 21 years. I don't think I need my battery to last that long. I think calendar aging will kill it before 21 years so I'm fine using a greater % of the battery. I think early they said 3 or 4000 cycles with 100% depth of discharge before they updated their doc's.. that's 10 years or so... and then they said we'll still have 80% battery capacity left. Thanks for the comment.
That makes sense. I have been struggling with how to set up and manage the same configuration. (Although not charging EV, but running my home.)
Cool
We are retired so home most days. Would it be possible to skip the battery and just charge directly to the car? Would that save significantly on this installation? I went to the link but all the components were bundled. Nice video, thanks.
That's definitely an option. And that would save you a lot of money. I think I will do a video on that. There are some inverters that can run just off solar and no battery.
Thanks. I subscribed so will look forward to seeing that!
I want to get this set up but have a dilemma that some of the power generated from the solar panels will be wasted. How would you remedy this?
Net metering is about the only way I can see that dilemma being resolved. I’m trying to come up with a way to run my AC off solar, as peak power production also coincides with hot weather.
One option would be to connect this inverter to your house electrical panel. I posted a video on connecting this to my house panel as well.
czcams.com/video/nAJByNRCw0k/video.html
That would definitely use all your solar. Depending on how much solar you put out.
An average Tesla electric car uses around 34 kWh of electricity per 100 miles. 62 to 94kw to fully charge
try and direct wire car charger a lot of the plugs go on fire as they are not made for constant use
Is there a way to make a direct DC charger for the Tesla?
Yes drive to a super charger. Use level 2 for home
@@myaccount__7269 so no because that’s not making one that’s driving to one
Question; you installed the ground from the outlet to the inverter, but you have no actual ground TOO the inverter from an actual ground. That is still needed I believe?
Here's a good video explaining ground and a grounding rods. Very good video. czcams.com/video/JBpQ9Fodz_Q/video.html
I noticed the same thing. It will have to have a “earth “ ground to pass inspection in my never humble opinion.
Man I thought the Tesla's made better range than that, I just got a new 2023 Mach-e and have been doing about 295-305 miles on the 91kWh battery. And that's on the South Texas Coast, the winds here kill EVERYTHING'S mileage lol.
I'm looking to do 3 of the indoor battery's and one 18kpv for my setup to start with, my biggest issue is the nearest LVL 3 charger to my house is 45 minutes away and it's a Tesla station, I have to have the adaptor to use it and Ford has not started shipping them yet (but I'm on the list so it's free).
As for range I think he is looking at the Tesla Model X which more which is heavier and focused on luxury , space and speed over range . The tesla model 3 or the model Y which is more comparable to the mach E gets north of 340miles per charge .
Yup. I was looking a heavier car and a little larger for my family. That sounds like a good setup. The 18k is more quiet than the 6000xp and would be nice. If you use my discount code, e-mail me your order number and I have some give-a-way Items still.
at 7000.00 plus for the system it will take about 14 years to break even?
For the amount I drive and my price of electricity I think I figured it was 7 years. Basically 10% return on my money.
While it varies widely due to electric rates and even time of use rates I would be interested to see how long it would take to payback this system versus simply DIY the the 14-50 plug into your main panel and charging the car off the grid
My current energy rate is 15 cents per kilowatt hour and if I use 15 kilowatt hours every day to charge for 365 days a year, it comes out to be $821 of savings a year.
Long term doesn’t make sense. Also he did all the work himself. Getting a company to do this would be $15-20k. Most home solar stuff has a payback period of 15+ years and given inflation it’s just not worth it. Cool concept like if you live off grid but don’t do this to try to save any $
@@myaccount__7269 This literally took me an hour to put together.
When I saw the title I flashed to Tesla diesel generators...
Which state are you in?
Nvm I got it you said Utah
Without an output transformer in that inverter to provide galvanic isolation, during a catastrophic failure of the H-Bridge circuit where the MOSFETs short to ground, you risk passing high amperage DC current through to you EVs onboard charger which can fry your charger and void your EVs warranty. I would never plug my EV into one of these transformerless inverters. There's an excellent video on CZcams titled "catastrophic inverter failure" by Red Hill Labs that explains in detail, why you should never plug an EV into one of these transformerless inverters.
Please offer an alternative configuration or other constructive solution. I am tired of BOTs or other self-serving entities crapping on solutions and not offering any teaching moments.
Great video. Are you going to adjust your formula for 80% DOD, or are you going to run it down to zero? That battery is rated at 8000 cycles at 80%.
After speaking with signature solar it sounds like this is their top selling off grid inverter.... Regarding the transformerless design: There are many brands that use this technology...Granted this is a newer inverter and who knows how it will do but the Sol-Ark 15k is also High frequency and people love that one.
dude is dropping some serious coin
5k? Offset a couple years worth of gas and its paid for. Prices are coming down quickly too, probably 4k worth of kit in a year. If you have an EV seems like a no brainer IMO. Panels are dirt cheap too, maybe an extra 1k for 3kW. Avg 12kWh / day is 36 miles of range conservatively.
Panels are definitely dirt cheap right now. I'm not sure what the prices will do in the future with all the new tariffs they are planning on putting In place soon. there has been some talk that they will go up by 20% with there l these tariffs... But who knows.
You need to ground the system to a lightning rod
Because it's inside I'm not too worried about lightning striking it. When I stick the solar panels on a rack I will connect those to a grounding rod though.
The battery cables are tinned copper.........not aluminum conductors! AWM is printed on the cable and Appliance Wiring Material (AWM) consists of stranded, soft annealed copper conductors insulated with Polyvinylchloride (PVC)
You are correct sir. Thanks for that clarification. I will edit that audio portion out.
Get an effing heat gun, first. Don't use miles with EV as there is too much variance between seasons, battery, weather, speed, etc. You'll not get comparable results with same car between Monday and Friday due to above.
Except the whole thing is not actually grounded to earth.
Here's a great video showing the purpose of the different types of grounding and what each does. czcams.com/video/P-W42tk-fWc/video.htmlsi=kE-tBdY2-qsAdUOI
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@@meilyn22 Use your Eyes and common sense... 0:02
@lasersbee Being rude and pointing out inconsequential things doesn't make you look good. What big equipment was being worked on at that point in the video?
It's a freaking long video, and that's all you could get from it?
@@meilyn22 Stopped watching the Video when I saw the unprofessional foot protection while un palleting heavy equipment. If you can't see the total lack of safety used then you must think bare feet while working is safe. Continue your bare foot life... OR are you just a TROLL ?
@lasersbee This is a DIY channel, not an electric company. What value do you add to the world? I don't see your videos helping us to do it properly.