The Issue With Buu as a Raider in Dragon Ball The Breakers
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- čas přidán 17. 05. 2023
- Although my favorite raider, buu is not without his flaws. In this video I discuss some of the issues of the raider and ask you guys how you would change him.
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Can we take a second to appreciate the growth, this man has had, almost at 3000 subscribers gotta respect the hustle
🙏its crazy to think about man, even in the game's slower moments the growths been pretty consistent!!
@@ironcaneif only db tb was just a bit more popular, sadly its not liked as much because it has a gacha system.
@@ironcane and only six months later you have tripled your sub count in the race to 10K and ur starting to get noticed by dotodoya and nanogenix which is a huge W
I think in terms of strength, Spopovich is good enough. What he really needs is:
1) a way to track civilians/survivors (like his Kili Counter he uses during the 25th World Tournament)
2) Have Majin Buu with a SEPARATE health bar from Spopovich
That Buu is the same health bar was always a really confusing bit.
Like, we just revived this guy, and he's exactly like Spopo ?
@Snowdemoman
I believe it's due to poor balance (and the devs assuming A LOT of things)
Majin Buu heals with each execution he does
So, if Majin Buu starts without full health, the player will get to experience the healing ability
Assuming the survivors haven't rescued all the civilians by that point
IF they want to keep Spopovich and Majin Buu with shared health bars, Spopovich SHOULD be able to achieve Level 2 faster (and make Fat Buu reach Level 3 slower to compensate)
He should spawn with all 7 dragon balls too huh?
Ironically, the second one happened.
At least 2 was nerfed
I only know Spopovich Gaming™, there is no such thing as "poking civilians".
SpopoChad is the one jumping the Survivors, not the other way around.
I believe this is a viable strategy though, all things considered.
I much prefer focusing Survivors as Spopo, drain their resources and leave the civilians to Innocent Buu since his execution time is way too long. Not to mention Buu doesn't even have a minion unlike Spopo, Yamu is NO JOKE and I strongly suggest getting a good feel on how he works (even doing Spopo only challenges, if required).
I disagree with giving Spopo an evasive because no other Lvl. 1 has it, personally I would prefer reverting his ki blast nerf .
For me going for survivors at lvl 1 is always tricky and not normally worth the effort unless its low leveled survivors since high levels can escape lvl 1s with ease unless they misplay.
Totally agree with you Jupiter, love ur videos, keep them up
@@ironcanethis! In Season 1 i did the Same. I going first way to Survivor's but now in Season 2 it could be a pain in the as*. IT, EF, Rocket ect. Players got more Experience and so on. I see rarely New Players on Playstation tbh. Maybe at the PC Version you can still do it, don't know.
Survivors have a lot of great options, its pretty unrealistic as any level 1 raider for that matter to get multiple survivor downs, let alone one.
@@ironcane I do understand your pov, but personally I find it way harder to down Survs and successfully execute them as Buu simply because he doesn't have any scouting skill unlike Spopo (and that's ignoring his extremely long execution time).
If you poke civilians as Spopo then you should 100% expect to get stuck with Buu for a long time, while also having to fight a FULL team with Change since you didn't harass them during the early game.
Same argument goes for Lvl 2 Cell and why so many people get stuck in that form: use the early game to your advantage while the Survs can't put up much of a fight.
Raider does feel bad in the game's current state and that's why I just stopped playing that role unless I want to meme like Spopovich Gaming™️, I'm desperately hoping S3 will bring the game back to life.
Edit: I'm sure someone already told you this, but your Spopo gameplay can be improved. Here's a few things I learned from playing Spopo recently:
- NEVER use Spopo's Supers mid-fight, you're just asking for a beatdown.
- Abuse the vanish mechanic. No, I'm not talking about spamming dodge because that doesn't do anything. Learn the timing so you can ONLY vanish, learn how to successfully evade melee attacks and use Vanish Kick to your advantage.
- Crash Launcher has a MUCH bigger hitbox than it looks like, you could destroy pre-nerf bikes with it. While controller is harder for aiming, I strongly suggest practicing sniping Survivors.
- Energy Drain should be used against Survivors beyond walls / objects. Yamu spawns at the Survivor's location as long as Spopo has a lock-on, same as Lvl 2 Frieza's Explosive Wave and Nappa's Saibaman skill. Use that information to catch Survivors hiding in caves or beyond walls.
- Yamu skill is a HOMING MISSILE, do NOT underestimate him. You can also use him to confirm a down or as a shield (I've seen many players target Yamu instead of Spopo, effectively wasting their Super).
- When you're up against multiple Survivors, it is generally a good idea to fly upwards while shooting ki blasts. This is a very good strategy because of the recent Grapple nerf, Survivors still take huge risks and then forget about their escape plan "just because it's Spopo".
I feel that Spopovich's remaining health should not carry over to Fat Buu. Or they can make it so that Spopovich only needs three civilians to fully fill up his Evolution Energy.
I actually was in a match as a survivor where a Lv99 Buu was stuck as Spopovich and he got bullied because genuinely he struggled to find civilians.
Buu can be VERY dependent on rng
This, i saw it soooo many times in Season 2 that Spopo's (low or high lvl) had probs to find civs. It's the fact that the Survivor's got more Experience and some of them playing annoying Meta Shit. Luckily i lvled Buu in Season 1 as my first Raider... playing him actually would be a pain in the as* most of the time for me. So, i feel + can understand Ironcane's Rage and sight. I rage even harder and would be soooo mad, cause like in the Game where he got ganged... you can't do nothing, facts! Energy Volley is absolute annoying + Burning Slash (or something else) broken Combo loop. I hope they do something to Spopo... i wrote the Support of DB:TB some ideas.
I'd be okay with shortening the execution timer for Buu. If they do, can they give the extra time to Vegeta, because DAMN, he doesn't even give downed players the time of day🤣
Just leaving my favorite moments here:
6:13
15:00 Poor Spopo tryin to run away 🤣🤣🤣
16:13
Continuing at 16:59 🤣
29:35
Think it's hilarious that you crack yourself up at some of these, but also kinda wholesome that you know how to laugh at yourself. You deserve more subs man.
Spopi is what turned me away from making buu for so long. I've been a Frieza main for the longest time but wanted to try something different.
I think his main issues are:
1. He needs some sort of tracking for civilians to make it easier to get level 2.
2. Just remove the buu egg all together.
I get it's a reference but sometimes you can go so far on the map and end up getting ganged up on before you even reach the egg. 😂
True! Luckily he was my first Raider in Season 1. Now, most ppl have more Experience and using Meta shit to annoy you. Rushing for Civs + Keys, cause that hurt Buu players too. Or like you said and we saw in the Vid: You're trying to reach the egg and got ganged, gg's.
I started playing Raider about 2 months ago for a while I was scared to play buu and buu was the only raider I wanted too play I stuck with him and its not to bad but I do have alot of bad games I'm currently level 55 with buu and one main problem I have is sometimes as spovovich I get jumped by the whole team and there's really not much you can do you can't even really run. I agree with your suggestions one I have is give spovoci some type of escape move maybe something like explosive wave or something entirely different.
Go go healing a getting to camp Buu when enrmies have no d and gets tracking in Buu. He's definitely cracked and how he can kill ant etm if he reads it
I can relate with you on that. Definitely had plenty of similar instances where I would have my ev gauge full and near the egg but everything goes left quickly they all transform get a couple combos on you and maybe some volleys, at that point it's over. Definitely rage inducing.
I feel spopovich should be able to absorb survivors quicker. I think special beam cannon needs to be slowed down a bit. Energy volley should last less to keep the survivors from stunning the raider for too long
17:00 literally the funniest type of iron.
I swear to god it feels like when I’m raider I’m fighting pro players on a $50,000 price pool but when I play survivor I get people who just bought the game
I just noticed I been watching your vids pretty regularly but hadn’t subscribed yet. Fixed that and look forward to future vids my dude.
Appreciate the sub man!!
I think in general they need to give the whole Buu raider way faster finishes and give Buu a separate health bar from Spopo. Spopo is so easy to bully especially when going up against a pre made and I've had times where it was just impossible to win because Buu's health was so low thanks to campers / sweats. Hell, even give Spopo an evasive. I think these things are reasonable enough especially for the current state of the game (at least on PC) where pre mades make up the majority of raider games.
Really liked the new survivor guide just yesterday. I don't have the game, but as a new raider, are there like builds for them too? Thanks Cane 💪
I have a survivor combat guide in the works! Raiders is a little tricky since each one plays differently but I could do a general raider video down the line!
9:13
Okay using Yamu to tank the Spirit Bomb was genius.
One thing you could have done in that one you got jumped in is fly straight up, lure them up, and then drop. A decent number of people won't drop, but will instead fly down and you'll get to the ground way faster than they will. Like, you had an opportunity to drop, but you canceled flying instead which is waaaay slower than dropping when trying to descend.
I'm okay with the current key system because there are times where I watch my team struggle to find any keys. I thinks it's just a matter of luck
Also energy drain is underrated. If you time it perfectly you can send yamu after barrier/IT combo, it's the only thing in the game that can respond to it.
Well, I'm a new player but I main boo in that clip where you got ping-ponged couldn't you use your ability the one that send out the guy doesn't it make you safe when you do that? Also, I noticed when you have players there you have to fight before getting your level 2 so in my opinion it is best to play far to get them to waste power and play high in the air to make it hard for combos etc.
Oh umm I wanted suggest this over the next live stream. But I think it would be fun if you also covered the special artworks and items they release each week for the weekly breakers collaborations. I do them all the time and think it could bring something extra to the channel. This week was Chi Chi and I know someone besides me had to seek her. But I really only saw maybe one or two people cover the topic
For the test server, if you grind ginyu in it will his level stay on the real server once season 3 releases with him in it?
things that could be fixes (not all at once obviously):
Spopovich: Give some kind of Civ Tracking, maybe let the Yamu active ping civs near him, remove the egg, speed up Energy gain
edit: maybe increase energy gain when Yamu hits a higher change level player; store some excess energy spopovich gets to start Buu with higher energy level
Chunky Buu: gain some Health back on reaching lvl 2 (full heal could be too strong with his heal passive on finish) or reduce the damage he takes
edit 2: through most of the video and i can say that yes spop needs some kinda evasion
Edit for Spopo: or let the Egg but give Spopo like an Instant Transmission to the egg (helps against Egg Camper's).
Well, maybe give us the old Spopo back like in Season 1 but i think that's not enough... cause many ppl get more Experience over the Time. One big mistake are the Civs especially against 100+ lvl Survivor's as Fat Buu there no Civs for him (most of the Time) + the fact that the Survivor's rushed at least 4 Keys... it's most of the Time over for Buu. I mean, he was my first Raider but i'm too scared to play with him in Season 2. I saw and did a lot to other Spopo Raiders... i rage even more as Ironcane xD and would be sooo mad.
No keep Majin buu buff spop tho
Edit for lvl 2: speed up the civ and survivor kills a little. There is no reason it should take 4 times as long as every other raider
@@TeemoQuinton good Point.
@@hiddenstreet17 i mean those are just random thoughts, Buu is my least played raider so i just put together what i thought of in about 2mins hearing others talk about his weaknesses
I think one way to help with rng for spopovich is to add an active ability called Majin Mark. Babidi will appear and release a magical blast. Any regular survivor hit by the blast will lose 10% of dragon change. Spopovich will gain energy according to how many are hit. If they are during dc instead it will drain at a faster rate and will give more to the evolution gauge than regular survivors. I think cooldown be about 75 seconds. Just a way to help spopovich gain more energy and to help if everyone attacks him at once without it being spam-able or useless bc a extremely long cooldown.
Not bad.
Something I think is extremely strong about super buu is when you absorb the survivors. It is very easy for super buu to camp majin buu's pod and at that point it is gg's usually. The way to get around this camping I feel like is to let the super time machine continue to charge if it out. Then buu has to come to you if the super time machine is ready. I personally do use this camping strat if I am able to absorb the survivors and I think that they will escape somehow or get me killed, however I've been using it less just because it feels kinda unfair
To answer your question it's very rare to survive after a spopavich jump Which like I said I actually made a Big come back Even going into super buu
I know buus absorb rate is aweful but honestly the one thing that I think makes him terrible that they should get rid of is spopa needing to fly back to the egg you should automatically spawn in as buu where ever the egg is just like how u spawn somewhere else as nappa off of siabamen
I us angry explosion when I get jumped and when the do melee on me and bait multiple or time melee of multiple survivors and pop explosion and hit all of them when I’m the melee animation on hitting you
23:00 counter question do we nerf key placement speed and civ rescue speed?
I personally don’t think it would be a nice look
maybe not the speed, but having some sort of disruption abilities would be nice
With buu it’s either you’re cooking or you get cooked no in between
Maybe BN&Dimps could add an extra melee for Spopovitch
I am still hoping we get some sort of Raider versus mode Where it's raider one versus raider two versus Survivors
that could be a lot of fun!!
@Ironcane If I had to guess the Is raider who wins the raider vs raider They would get an instant Level up gauge filled
Spopovic needs more health, or a better ki blast
16:00 imagine having to play 10 survivor games just to get this as your raider game
thats the part that stings the most lol
Just chiming in to state Iron is absolutely correct about Super Buu being the strongest level 3. Literally all my games against buu, my questions going in are: " are we jumping spop?" Then if that fails, its "can we prevent super buu?" Me and my bud both agree that when SB is out, its "do NOT engage." I don't want to call SB a "win condition", absolutely not....that being said, IF they get to super buu, that's pretty much ggs.
yooo said this in your stream 2 days ago when you mentioned this vid. i think buu just needs more ways to get to level 3 so turning bikes, beds, and destructable objects into candy, idk that's just what i'd like, but i guess the real issue is getting out of lvl 1, i don't think it would be a bad change if spop instantly gets to lvl2 without having to go find the egg, that might solve a lot of problems, egg causes a lot of problems, wastes time for raider, especially if survivors camp it and every second matters because the 7 survivors are looking for dragonballs/ keys to win, i think lvl2 buu's kill animations take too long aswell i think it should be sped up by 25% and this is just a personal problem but lvl 2 buu feels too weak for me, i haven't been playing because my buu games aren't fun, i think I'll pick the game back up when they buff buu or reword all his forms somehow
to answer your 15:30 of "what could i have done, you ate damage for no reason before you get to the egg I've been throwing yamu and he'll usually scan and mark any survivors that are try to ambus you, once you do that they d change instantly, and i usually fly straight up since its the faster way to move, and wastes anyone else's d change who wants to come to the skybox and join the fight, when i fly straight up i double tab jump so you really go fast, so any super moves thrown at me will probably miss, as a spop player i think its best to stay on the ground, running and jumping so survivors aren't getting pings on where you are (decreases chance of getting jumped) but once your found your best defence is flying straight up if your fight 3 or maybe 2 survivors, i wish they'd remove the egg all together though a raider hiding is dumb
My biggest grip like everyone else is spopo. It takes to long to get to level 2.
Bro the thumbnail looks amazing
LOL its the xenoverse 2 backgrounds they have for breakers. I wish I made em.
@@ironcane oh my bad ps love your raider videos
you're good bro! no need to apologize, the backgrounds are really sick!! Appreciate your support man!
Iron let me pass down some wisdom ive gain against buu playes and as a raider buus go go gum can be destroyed by ki blast meaning against volley it doesn't do anything. When getting jumped as irader your concern is dodge their attacks and since you want to get buu you tend to dodge to buus egg making it easier for them to predict your actions, so you must dodge in all directions relying on the survivor to vanish behind them to create distance and you must not spam the dodge button because the vanish dodge is vastly superior to the side step and in most situations is the best option.
Okay hot take:
-Give Spopovich less HP (Vegeta-level), but Buu gets a separate HP Bar.
-Give Spopovich slightly (~1s) faster execution, and same for Majin Buu (because the new skills make it twice as hard as on launch).
-Make Spopovich's Ki Blasts usable (like please at least give them enough range to hit people that aren't two centimeters in front of you).
And that's probably enough to make it a lot more fun for both parties, imo. Maybe Spopo could get a tracking skill like other people have said, but I feel like he is supposed to be a "weak point" and thus Spopo's main goal is to get Buu ASAP, and I feel like a tracking skill makes him too good with that.
Also, maybe Volley could have a damage increase the farther it travels, but very low starting damage (meaning it's useful for covering wide areas but doesn't shred your HP when used one time while stunned).
I am not a streamer but I am a spopovich main(check my channel's most recent video even) - I am around the same level buu as you. Anyway my point is is that people USUALLY save all civs before I barely get majinn buu or all keys are done by the time I have full energy. I don't think it's that odd but I can imagine stream sniping makes it harder too. I've lost a ton of buu games but I'd like to think I also wipe a lot of lobbies as spopovich too and I will tell you it is not unusual for me to get trashed worse than you or get key rushed. It's so hard to deal with firewall, IT/barrier and VOLLEY specifically. I don't think it'd be too op to give spopo a vanish because it's goofy that you can get jumped at the egg and just die. Another idea would be just making spopo less HP like saibaman but buu is summoned if he dies, in lore it'd still make sense because the majinn marks specifically with vegeta is what caused buu to end up resurrected in the show.
frieza and cell both can get their 2 forms if they are forced to fighting i believe and vegeta kills off the saibamen to turn to nappa but spo is the only one who doesnt get a ability or passive like them where they can tranform in the middle of a fight instead he dies and everyone automatically wins which sucks because there are people out there who want to experience buu and his other forms but always end up getting jumped because people know that spo is the worst starting form because he can be killed and there are no second chances but i think theres a way to fix that for him with yamu being his ability or passive he can send him to the egg if his evolve bar is full and have it open it for him, lets say survs are ready to jump you and you see on the top right everyone has activated their change power they all end up jumping you the spo and your close to death or do die as a last resort yamu is sent out and hes more faster than spo and doesnt have much health but hes not too weak to the point you can kill him fast or one shit him no no no another thing for yamu he will not target survs but instead focus on opening the egg and they health bar become seprate and also yamus ai isnt a dumbass and solves the solution if getting blocked from the egg and one last thing fat buu should be tanky not to the point where you do no damage just not where you take so many its take 50 percent or more of your health and boom problem fix for spo atleast in my opinion this could be a great ability or passive
The one buff spopo needs to make him good is that he should get A LOT of energy for draining survivors. Like im talking 80% bar off 1 survivor, and 25% Bar for each yamu/melee combo suck. Spopo has no stuns, short ranged beams, and a very easy assist to dodge. Thus if spopo is able to get rewarded for taking a high risk in attacking survivors, he should be able to get out of stage 1 quickly before he gets combo'd into oblivion by survivors
Unrelated but after the day I had as cell, I honestly don't feel like picking up the game until season 3
I think I see maybe a few ideas. First an evasion skill to deal with group Survivor. Another option is maybe lower the count of civilian to 3 instead of 4 if you get it pass level 10. But leave how many survivors it needs.
The one I hope they do is basically, where if you level up to Majin Buu, you immediately get a full health bar back, similar to what Vegeta, Nappa and Saibamen have. Since they are different characters.
But those are my thoughts, also Nerf Volley please, by some way just nerf it.
Also maybe lower the cool down it takes to get the knockdown or ko since it takes a lot but a lot to pull off.
That's all.
and this is why this raider needs a buff
I’ve killed a great ape vegeta as an oolong rocket before, it’s the most disrespectful way to kill a raider. I rarely die as Buu, but when I do, it’s because someone spams volley. One of the spopo strats is to lay low and don’t fly, so the survivors don’t know where you’re at until it’s too late so I’m not sure Buu needs buffs. Then again I know you get sniped so that may not help. Vegeta is different, either I dominate or survivors destroy me at any stage.
I also like to run with spopo just because he's somehow a faster runner than flyer lol, the point of this video is to talk about whether its too easy to beat spopos up and if its too difficult to level up with them at times
okay but youre admitting that to survive as stage one buu you have to hide from survivors. theyre supposed to be the ones hiding from you.
@@xdaedonx I mean I imagine that lvl 1 raiders aren’t supposed to be super dangerous, and only kill you if you’re playing recklessly or get caught w/o change power. And even with spopo being weak, Buu has one of the highest win percentage’s as a raider.
You probably don’t watch much breakers content because you’re busy making video ideas, irl stuff or just playing the game, but CraicTical does plenty of Spopovich only games. watching his content I’ve pick up on quite a few techs.
1. Crash launcher is best shot into caves
2. Energy drain when used at the right moment counters IT
3. The counter vanish move is your best friend and you should know when too use it effectively, or melee combat in general
Of course you could definitely question the skill of the survivors or possible losses he doesn’t upload, but just analyzing his gameplay to pick up certain tech is interesting.
1 Separate health bars for Spopovich and Buu
2 Spopovich warps to the Buu Egg when the gauge hits full level 1.
This video is months old man
6:26 I feel that😂
I would say give level one buu buff for taking damage like nappa
Yes lv 1-2 needs more absorption lv it’s and we need more civs nerf keys
He needs a buff most definitely.
Give Spopo his hair back. Look at em he deserves better than being a Babidi pawn. (But on a more serious note maybe they can add special raider skins: Mecha Frieza, Early Spopovitch, Cell: Power Weighted, Buutenks, Buuccolo, Buuhan, Bonyu, Nappa Tuppe)
It’s hard af to make it out of level 2 when the survivors make sure you can’t finish a kill
17:00 joker arc begins
LMAO lowkey
If the saiyans can get a full healthbar twice i dont see why majin buu cant get at least 1 going from spop to mb. Its pretty annoying knowing no matter what you do to nappa vegeta is just gonna come in unscathed.
With new spoke you gtta melee because you get charge from it, if you get jumoed its definitely a spam dodge and fly away, imlove getting jumped cause rhey all waste dcharge and inget to kill them all as inoo buu fir free
When I see high level survivors I don’t even bother picking Buu. I go with Frieza and play passively, camping the last key. I just played a team where no one was lower than 100 and I almost got still almost got jumped in a cave as Frieza
I think they should give buu all he's health back when he go's from spopovich too fat buu I mean vegeta does when he switches between characters plus it doesn't make sense that they share the same health anyways
Thats because saibamen and nappa takes more damage and can easily die.
Best Voiceline to spam: ``Once I revert to an egg, I must bury myself underground for 3 years, there my form matures.``
On the topic of coordinated games, it feels heavily skewed.
If I play survivor, it is a literal kindergarten. 9 out of 10 times, I find and set 3+ keys, while my teammates either go and die one by one, or climb some mountain to wait for ETM.
If I play raider, I might as well walk into the Z-fighters. EVERYONE barriers and instant transmissions out, I get at least 27 firewalls up the butt, survivors are level 3 before I even cross area X, and the STM arrives in 2 minutes tops.
Yeah. But i rather play buu than cell. Spopo is easy to take down, but u can kill every form except for level 4 cell. At least once you reach level 3 buu u know u won cuz it's impossible to beat him.
I think calling yamu is ok only becasuse its gotten me many downs and help me stop survivors escaping me with rock change. But its still meh.
Id say the evolution of Spopo is not fair. Jumping Friezer/Saiba man they would get lvl2 faster, meaning survivors have to face a much stronger opponent, and raiders can decide to destroy an area to escape from face jumping. Cell evolves is much faster so he is literally out of discussion. A small nerf to fat Buu but a brand new health bar on him after evolution may be a good option, if Spopo has a knock back escape can also do.
Just to clarify that I am a survivor player and all my raiders are
Spopovich just needs an evasive and he’ll be perfectly fine
no he desperately needs some kind of ki detection and a MASSIVE speed boost. spopovich is comically slow.
I tend to not jump Spopa because while getting the ewrly win and killing him can be funny, letting the game go on longer tends to be more fun in the long run. Now if we have like 3 keys, full team with change power, and he isnt Buu yet, i am jumping his ass
I allways get killed in the first form People dont let you become majin buu in seconds of the level starting everyone is already level 1 or 2 and everyone start attacking you and you are dead but when you go against a majin buu nobody in the squad not even level 2 or 2 People kill his first form so that he dont become majin buu its crazy 😂😢
Yammu has IT, it can catch people completely off guard
There's that one video where craic sends Yammu to someone who used IT and it kills them
tbh with you, I doubt this is intentional, although cool, I imagine they'll patch this out once they find out about it
they already patched it out i think
(second comment)
I would say its way to common to see Spopovich die and some times we kill him to fast the game will give a error message and deny our victory. Heck i would say Prepatch Spopovhich was fair. in hindsight I believe that. its rare but i was victim to a Spopovhich only player and he Won he surived being Jumped and killed Everyone as him and won the game. it was sheer skill. this yes yesterday btw.
Prepatch Spopovich only really had good Ki blast tracking thats what made him good the second they took that away he instantly became utter trash and suffers Jumps harder now unlike before and even before it was very bad he at least had a decent fighting chance. the Nerf to him imo was too quick and should have been in the game longer for further testing to allow players to adapt to it and see if its actually worth nerfing.
If they leave him this bad but made his energy gain faster or heck give him a new skill that would be a step in the right direction for him and make it work so he is still ha Hard character with a explosive late game win con with sheer skill and deep understanding of the games tools/rules
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Judging how long it takes specific readers to level up, it should not take five minutes to find all dragon balls or plant keys. Both needs to be Nerf so games last longer.
The problem with spopovitch is that if you play against 7 good players and they have some good rng you are dead 100%
What about 1 pnj less for spopovitch and 1 pnj more for buu
Frieza mains stay winning >:)
Also, I somehow managed to beat a Level 100 Buu, though that was because of how fast our team got the Dragon Balls.
Lmaooo you forgot the spit.
Spopo mains rise up
I think spop is fine as it is because as a buu player I find it can be easy so long as you aren’t unlucky
I think the a lot of the experience of buu boiling down to luck isn't the greatest thing imo
you thinking Luck is a good design choice says a lot on how bad this character actually is
Bruh sry... Spopo isn't fine. I was a Buu Main in Season 1... the examples of Iron are the Reasons why i never played him in Season 2. Players got more Experience, using Meta sh*t ect. Maybe some Spopo's are lucky with Civs all 5 Game but the other 4 Games the rng could be a Nightmare... sry, but you can't be serious.
Luck is a part of every raider design so I don’t think it’s all that bad after all it’s not that hard if you get proficient with dealing with survivors
@@D4rK86 I don’t mean civs when I say unlucky I mean you somehow failed to find any survivors
He at least deserves a knockback
Level 1 cell most likely won’t kill him before he auto transforms
Level 1 frieza ur just slowly making him go to level 2
And saibamen ur just got straight into nappa so at least give spop a knockback to give him a fighting chance
yeah, spopo is the only raider that consistently gets peaced up at lvl 1
Obviously they haven't found the balance yet because he was overpowered at first and now he's too big a liability. He should be the best opportunity for stopping Buu so they shouldn't do much. I think separating his life bar from Buu should be the first move and see how that goes. If he got a defensive break it should have a much longer cooldown. To balance that I still think super buu should lose ki detection in the stomach phase. I'd still take Nappa over fat buu. If Nappa had normal health he'd be like the second best non-level 4 form. The game speed is indeed too fast. All the keys, db's, and civies are found in under 4 minutes or less in my games with survivors also getting good DC in matches. Raiders don't really have the tools to keep up with the game in its current state. It's why so many raiders are level 2 and all 7 survivors are usually still alive during the STM defense phase.
Or maybe just a slight heal like 2-3 bars when going into stage 2
I just noticed that I’m in this video
Buu still sucks for the same reasons : Spopovitch is too weak, Fat Buu is too weak, and it takes to many ressources in time or civilians to evolve.
hes a high risk high reward raider.
14:54 Ok that was just karma cuz this jumping happened right after you said “Ha Ha Ha! That was easier than I thought!” U basically asked for that😂
I was gonna agree but then I had game where the Raider purposely stayed as Spopovich and wrecked us even after we got our level 4 and jumped him a few times we only got his health down to 3 bars, Spopovich beat my level 3 dragon change with only 3 attacks and that's with Beyond Super Saiyan equipped so nah this game is Raider biased as fuck if you have trouble as Raider it really is just a skill issue, raider op please nerf.
Ah so you go for the full 7.
Bruh, dont sleep on vanishing. Youll be surprised how much dmg you can avoid just by spamming it.
brother in that one game at green coast best believe I was spamming lmaoo
1:42 bro you’re gonna see this this clip a year from now out of context and wonder why you did that 😂 mock my words
LOL I lowkey forgot I even did that
PERSONALLY I think Fat buu is the worst level 2
Frieza is better imo then Nappa (tbh its interchangeable the more i think about it) but after them its then Cell Then Buu here is why i say this.
Reason 1 : Frieza Ki's Blast at level 2 have the highest priority in the game no one can contest it UNLESS You also have the same Ki blast type as Frieza. if you have the basic ones Frieza no only beats them but plows right through it hitting you and it can beat some supers the survivors use. (for example you use Buu's super as the survivor Frieza can see that and shoot right through it making it useless any other raider it would tank it and fly at them. (This might have been nerfed I need to check but for now ill say prepatch (Prepatch Change level 2 Frieza for survivors ki blast is the same as regular Frieza's if you fight Fat Buu and he does his Super Your CHANGED LEVEL 2 Ki blast Negate that super and you freely damage buu for doing it) plus your ki blast are better at level 2 as Frieza because of the ki blast priority i mentioned and if you are in a ki blast war Buu loses 100% of the time and his Go gum can get destroyed by ki blast so Buu cant deal with ki blast like that or Vegeta's Level 2 or SSJ Level 3 change Vegeta same with Cell and Level 3 Frieza...but i am getting side tracked lol.
thats 1 reason why Buu level 2 is weak.
Reason 2 : ALL of his Supers are very slow and easy to dodge like the cave part you showed in your video 4:27 is also proof of that. just time it and Buu loses they try doing it on the STM but everyone is so good at this point its a waste of a super and any good to decent player can react and prepare ANY SUPER god forbid he uses angry shout and then tries to use that super its the worst A.O.E super by far.
Reason 3 : His HP but its a balance choice but due to having low HP Adding on reason 1 and 2 makes it a really step challenge curve to play him you lost that game due to 1 bad move any other raider can at least tank it more or have better options on escaping or dealing with pressure but... Buu... he has nothing. its only at level 3 when he becomes a real threat his power rivals level 4's he is legit a level 4 he is Buu's win con not Kid buu thats why Kid buu moves wise is worse then Super Buu. Kid buu is like a buffed up level 3 LOL.
Reason 4 : he has the easiest win con to gimp play well save Humans and when the big text shows up makes all Buu players Cry. this is also why he cant just up and do area destruction because he loses resources. one of the main mechanic of the game hurts him.
I dont wanna make this thread longer then it needs to be but your video for sure is really good and bringing the conversation up is great.
If you didnt know they nerfed Spopovich before it was his ki blast tracking that was it. so if they needed to Buff spopovhich they just tweak his offense a tiny bit. no matter what they do he will be jumped and get bodied unless he plays a really smart game. or a simple buff would be allow his HP to regen after Spopovich is out of the game to balance Buu is a fine line and honestly thinking about it is really hard.
Nerf Buu a bit, have Babbadi tp spope to the egg
Super buu’s absorption skill is broken.....there is no item inside of buu, time machine completely stop for no reason. It’s like shooting fish in a barrel 😒😒😒 don’t bother playing once I get to this stage.
Everyone here hating Buu because of Spopo.
Meanwhile, there's idiots that main Spopo who never want to evolve to Buu.
I am one of those idiots.
Iron, my sweet summer child, let me whisper something into your ear, git gud, you're only having a skill issue, you're really trying to take Steedoj place as the Rant DB King.
idk if you're being totally serious here lol, but implying that all these matches were skill issues is a little unfair imo
I don’t see problems with spo at all, I’ve loss only two games and that was when i first started, other than that I’ve won every game as raider, i only play buu btw
As I already have buu at level 100 I can say from experience that they have to change the execution time and how many civilians to level up, because you lose more time in long animations
2 civs for lvl 3 would be my dream
And spovovitch I'd say needs the same treatment larva cell does
I agree, they have to be careful about it for sure, but since survivor absorption times are so long it means buu raiders are that much more dependent on finding civilians
2 civs for level 3 may be a bit overkill imo, especially with how strong super buu is
@@ironcane maybe one civ one survivor
@@zay9232 tbh he can get this if we wanna take the show into note.
Buu needs energy if Spopochich got it by fighting or getting it Like Frieza and Nappa it would make jumping him really rough (in a good way) like if yall got ready to jump him be prepared to feed him but you need to make sure to kill him. him reaching the egg should still be a factor but him getting energy in many other ways like the show could very well be a good buff to Spopovhich