MPC vs DAW and why I switched
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- čas přidán 19. 06. 2024
- MPC vs DAW is the workflow or is one just better.
I will explain why I made a change that I should've made years ago.
With the Akai MPC One+, you get a groovebox that fuels your creative journey like never before. This standalone MPC convinces with a workflow that ignites your productivity and creativity. Beatmakers, producers and live performers will be delighted by the heart of the MPC One+ - the powerful multi-core processor that is already used in the flagship MPC X. Instruments, audio, MIDI and effects processing - everything is mastered by the MPC One+.
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Thats a great point , I really agree with you .
The last couple years I made beats with FL studio , but after these couple years I had enough sittin infront of a computer to make beats . Than I took a break over one year , I had no Motivation to make beats .
Than last year in march my girlfriend gave me the MPC live 2 as a birthday present .
I am so thankful for this .
And now I‘m back and I make more beats like the last 5 years , and thats all just in one year 😌👋
I love my mpc live 2
Sorry for my english
Greetz from Germany
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*Have not watched the video, just a lil busy, seen the title and wanted to say...MPC + DAW = THE BEST Overall*
WELL SAID !!!
Yes why limit yourself. Use it all. "Dawless" is silly.
I want to do both but start out in the mpc prob then add in daw any extras needed
You can use the mpc vst full software inside of your daw like Ableton or whatever. So you can cut samples and chop up in the mpc and then move to the daw for more control over effects and mastering, or you can do that on the mpc also. You have so many options this way.
it's all about how you start. I chop everything up in a DAW with mouse and keyboard. It's more natural for me because I've been using mouse and keyboard even before making music.. but I see how it could be more productive for those who started on an MPC. Personally, I feel the MPC is a middleman between ME and the DAW so I cut the middleman out. I also understand that I need a specific middleman (MPC) for my preference.
Understood- I started on analog so I’m use to not working with computers. We use to record with a 16 track mixer and produce with drum machines.
Analog is alot more hands on, I think that’s why the Mpc just comes so natural to me and any chop I can I do on the Mpc- you can do in the daw it’s just about what works for you.
My boy got that Blue Magic 👏 🎶 you know your music 👌
I used FL Studio for years and I'd make a beat in about an hour or two. The MPC totally made my workflow way faster. I can cook like 5 to 10 beats a day easy
Nice video!!
That beat hard that keeps playing.
There never was a switch for me 😊. I played drums for 15 years so I could never get with clicking a mouse to create music. That being said, I do understand the utility of traditional daw setups and how accessible and how popular they are. Different strokes. Welcome to the MPC GANG!!!!!
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I use mpc software with a alesis vi25 keyboard. You get the 16 mpc style pads along with the keys plus the use of 3rd party vst.
i gotthe MPC mini 2 bout to get the 3 the it only got 25 keys 8 pads..@@boomboombaby9140
awesome channel. was attracted by the content, the way you throw out the info and ofc, the background beat you added to the video...that shits making me bop bro. we gonna watch you grow to thousands of subs! lets get it!
I really appreciate that bro!! Thanks!!
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Awesome video, man. Loved the motivational part. As for gear, yes I prefer a new one over a cheaper used one. I once bought a used MPK and I instantly regretted it. Cleaned it and sold it right away.
It’s very hard for me to buy used- but it really depends on what it is. I’ll save up but I buy some broke shit. lol. I have had some bad experiences that pissed me off soo bad.
I go hybrid. I use both. I'll track some things on my Akai Force then track it into Logic right away. I do the same thing with my synthesizers. I may add a couple tracks using a VSTi. And I have some pretty expensive outboard gear, so I hybrid mix with those and Waves Vsts. But I try to do as much as possible outside of the box on the front end so I don't have to mix much on the back end. Mainly just fades and effects before bouncing the track.
I'm just happy that I finally got all my drum machines and synthesizers synced up via midi. The iConnect Midi4 is a lifesaver.
I have a MPC One and I luv the sound quality and effects inside. You have a good hip hop vibe bruh 🎶
I appreciate that bro- Do you plan on upgrading to the X or you good with the one?
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Not upgrading, still learning some things about the MPC ONE
@@james12erby43 cool- I plan on getting the X from the studio and use the ONE to travel
I used the MPC one in a Dawless setup for 3 years. Had various setups including Microkorg, Minilouge XD, Korg Krome, SP404 and Cobalt 5s. It's a really intuitive way to make beats, I never used the software because it defeated the object for me. I started to have issues with the workflow and found I was creating a lot of loops and not finishing the song. I think the new MPC are trying to hard to do everything which causes it to fall behind in a many areas.
In the end it felt like I was trapped so I just migrated back to DAW and honestly its like i been set free. I sold all of my hardware and copped Komplete 14 standard license transfer, Cubase 13, Komplete Kontrol s49 and a few other essentials. I gotta say im loving it and its so much easier to be inspired and created for me. There is so much power using a daw and technology has moved on to where I feel the MPC workflow was regressing me musically
Music is music- don’t matter how you do it. Just be creative!!! 💪🏼
Great video bro. I just subscribed. Keep pushing that great content out. Much love!
Thanks for the sub bro!!
@@Dahomestudio It's all good. I'm rocking with you. I've been on the fence about investing in a small set up. It's been 30 yrs since I've made beats but I need a creative outlet to express myself. Stay tuned. I'll be in touch.
Great video. I like both. They both have thier plus. This is the new era where it just recently got OK to use a DAW and not be a poser. In the past people looked at you like you were trash if you didn't have hardware. But I like both and use both. At the end, its all about the end product and what works best for the individual producer.
That’s tru- I don’t hate on nobody’s creativity but I do believe you had to have true talent to play everything with your hands. We have also heard plenty of hits done with FL so it’s whatever works for you.
I don’t worry about what others think. I do what works for me and be done with it.
I had a love hate with MPC. Got a new MPC ONE PLUS. So frustrated with it at first. Suddenly, a few great folks opened my eyes to all the features not so obvious to a new user. After that, I was super happy with it. I ended up giving it to my son who was struggling with some issues to help him out and enjoy it more than I would. Now, I miss it. We both reflect on how much better the MPC's are vs. DAW. It just keeps you focused and the overall experience feels approachable. DAWS are overly complete for most and we'll never use all the BS. MPC has more than enough to do just about everything you can in one box and one interface. I'd be buying an X se today, but out of stock. :( Almost tempted to grab the Key 61. I just love those OLEDs on the X! more knobs the better :)
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great vid ...I start mix in MPC.. bounce all tracks to audio files, including vocals and finish in Pro Tools...
You mix vocals on the Mpc to?
Dope video man. I been thinking about grabbing the Mpc one+. I been using mpc2 software for the last two years, with the mpk 249 and the mpk mini 3. I got logic and studio one too, but I became more proficient with the Mpc software lately. I’m gonna grab that Mpc and go the hybrid route and have the luxury of cooking up in standalone or switching to hybrid when I need too. I appreciate the video bruh.
Thanks!! It’s pretty much that same. I just like not being connected. Workflow is quick without all the clicking
Subbed. Keep up the great work. I enjoyed watching how the new school workflow goes. I've gone back to the old school after using Cakewalk rewired to Reason, then Maschine and Logic. I sample directly into my MPC through the inputs and chop inside the MPC by ear and assign them to pads. I track out to a DAW and finish mixing there but the sequencing of my hardware and the arrangement is all done in the MPC3000. I get the sound that I want this way. I'm still keeping my eye on the new school workflow though. Maybe when the right time comes I'll jump in on the new school MPCs
Thanks!! I was thinking about jumping in to the Time Machine, but didn’t want to deal with the floppy’s
@@Dahomestudio I don't save my projects on floppy. I create them and track them to the DAW to mix and master them and I sample in the sounds that I use or control them with my sequencer. You could always just put a SD card reader in the place of the floppy if that's what you want. The time machine might surprise you lol
@@RoomAtTheTopStudio Got it. I thought the 3000 was str8 floppy as well. I might have to check that one out.
@@Dahomestudio i still save on zip discs with my 3000.
@@eddieleonard6925 you track out with a mixer?
MPC+ DAW = 🔥🦇🗡️
Speak , MPC Live 2 is my go to.
Just got my MPC LIVE 2 recently and I love it. Plus I got it for a steal for 800 at my local guitar center NEW. It’s very convenient. I love the sounds on it. Easy to make beats on. Haven’t been on FL since I got it 😂
Now that’s tuff bro- I started on FL years ago, but will never produce on a DAW again. MPC is too 🔥
@@Dahomestudio Facts
Congrats!! MPC is King for making beats
Reason i bought a mpc one is because i can throw around ideas alot easier. In DAWs i usually get stuck in the myriad of options. I use DAW for arrangement, mastering.
Same here
Are you anywhere near Atlanta? Im struggling with the same issues when comes to the MPC. Im hooked on the DAW
Do you have a MPC?
I've been making music for a long time and so for me switching from daw to mpc and vice versa a few times a year is a way to keep things inspired and flowing. If I had to pick one... today... it would be my mpc because I enjoy working on it more (usually :)
Which Mpc you have??
@@Dahomestudio I got the OG Mpc Live the week it came out. Still use it almost daily. Still works great. I picked up an old tape unit last year and have been using it to give some of my samples and resamples extra vibe… lol.
Dope Video bro!!
Thanks bro!! I release videos every Sunday and beat making videos on Tuesdays
Yo, I’m glad you made that video
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Word!!
Just subbed you should be at 160 my boy 🙏🏾💯
I really appreciate it bro!! 💯
I still use MPCX in stand alone mode to create the song initially, but as the song builds I must go into the MPC SOFTWARE to get a smoother work flow, bounce tracks yo audio, to use Busses, and premix before flying all the audio stems into STUDIO ONE for Mixing & Mastering...... MPCX & DAW working as one 💪🏿🎶
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🔥 🔥 🔥 it depends on how you attack the beat. I feel like Ableton Live meshes well with MPC Live 2 and all MPC hardware.
True- I never used ableton with the MPC, but other Daws it works just fine as well.
I think they both have their place. And it depends what type of music you produce. I love the MPC workflow for producing (uless I need to write orchestral music). But then to mix and master properly I still think the DAW works better. Im a fan of the MPC Key 61. I also like the MPC live 2 as a controler (I tehnd to use a lot of plugins)
I agree- mixing I think I would always go back to the DAW, but production never
Nice job man - I subbed :D
I really appreciate man!!!
Great Post:))
Thanks!!
Hard beats bro
Thanks!💯
The sweet spot if you love standalone is using the MPC as a controller on the MPC software. Therefore you can use like standalone but still have total flexibility to use computer plugin sounds and effects. In fact I use my MPC X/Key 61 with FL/MPC DAW is a plugin on FL. Therefore, you can use FL/MPC on the same project with DAW plugins.. That's thousands of sounds (MPC/FL/Plugins) at your fingertips.
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I’m bout to go check but before I do what’s all ya rack gear in ya desk
Wa76
Wa1073eq
Apollo 8
Presonus Eureka
Power condenser
gate
Compressor
u got the free MPC 2 daw tgat comes with that i havent got one yet so i still use the MPC BEATS daw that came with my MPK minni 2 the MPC 2 daw go hard
Brother ur speaking my language.. i got sick of the DAW way of too many options ... I wanted to get to sampling a guitar lick, slicing it up quick, constructing a new riff or hook... Hardware quick response! Hey Shadario, how u feeling about Akai Force?
Seem pretty cool- I have been watching a lot of reviews on all old and new Akai products.i have not had my hands on that one yet. Is that what you using???
@@Dahomestudio not yet, just doing my research to make a decision. Thx for the response!
Hi, I wanted to know if with mpc I can do everything completely without needing a PC.
Producing, yes you can. Everything
With time and money to buy the sample packs and learn how to use the MPC just as smoothly as your DAW; you bet.
MPC + MPC software is a great combo… with most of your VSTs right there 💪🏾💯🫡
True- I love my MPC 💯
The software on modern MPCs is a DAW, its customized for a tutch screan the same as FL Studio mobile.
I think the buttons and workflow is what kinda makes it different from most DAWs
@@Dahomestudio Not really in My opinion My MPK49 249 and mini have the same controls.
@@HOLLASOUNDS you think an older MPC would be more of a difference?
@@Dahomestudio Well the old MPCs software is still a DAW if We compare that to the first PC DAWs available with identical functions and style of graphics. The MPK49 has the same controls and look as the early MPCs and that was deliberate by Akai.
If they put a playlist/arrangement view in standalone like in a daw so you can arrange your beat it would be over. They had that in the phantom G8 and roland mv8800 even the maschine plus..so it ain’t no excuse akai
Right, “linear editing “ we need it
@@Jaiwavbeatz that’s the term I was looking for Linear editing..we need that
@@mont-doggBeats I heard Bolo say it on his channel a couple times, hopefully it comes in future updates
@@Jaiwavbeatz yeah I remember him mentioning something about that too
That's a great idea.
what you did on the mpc you can do it faster, more comfortable and cheaper on an tablet or cellphone
There’s is nothing a Mpc can do that a daw can’t, but how it’s done is what’s better for me.
It’s almost like mixing consoles and a DAW. They both get job done, but some people like mixing analog and some like digital.
I prefer flawless, but have no problem using both in tandem....🎶
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For me, it isn’t an either or proposition. I always start in a MPC or MPC software and often migrate to a DAW as the work gets to a certain point.
I hope everyone knows the mpc was first and best because its hardware, how the daw is useful is if you're like me, I'm a pianist(own a piano amd keyboard) composer and like to see the keys etc piano gui/layouts. I'm a riff ceeator, producer's are creators of already created riffs so its all derivative riffs and sounds, no ownership at all over the original it was taken from no matter how popular the new version gets over the original, without the original it would never exist, further more, the social web had made it possible for all sorts of music to be liked than thr old days of having to really like music to keep sound player in a working order, today mist devices handle playing of music if not many formats just mp3 which shouldnt be hard nowadays converting most audio formats to.
Maybe most of all for some not yet realised, lets say you music or a track becomes super liked by many and they ask how did you come up with it etc etc, what made you think of those chord-style/notes?, you'd feel unimportant as you should because you're not the base/foundation creator..
Think of a singer/rapper, when you were young and didn't bother to think anything else but the music and visuals you got so into the artist subliminally and ultimately what made the track was the lyrics alimg with beat but unless the artist is playing a instrument you would just take them for the vocals thus they wrote it etc what an amazing artist only kater to find out they were just an actor reading or singing/rapping someone else's lines or even true story most of the time.l which has nothing to do with them but the image sells and its what you and even me when young wouldve thought simple as that.
Now you're older, its obvious that theres people that cant make anything on their own which is the majority and the few like me would use a sampler to handle layers if or when the pc devices break down.
But if you don't even have the skills to even make a full beat and put to a cd or vinyl using an mpc then daw would be the best. Im sure many who say the mpc the best are feeding it into a pc.. ???? Downgrading the sound regardless of hiw great the soundcard or pc is, introducing noise into files that were never there when in the hardware sampler, the akai samplers from the nineties are great. Just make sure you have floppy disks or a zip drive.
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I believe the biggest misconception is that people feel that it's MPC vs/or DAW... when in fact - it's always been MPC + DAW.. The MPC was created to be the heart/centerpiece of the modern studio for the composer/producer BUT you always needed something to print the final idea (Newer MPCs not so much)... but my theory for that is pretty much the same for any other musician... the same way you could "draw" chords in your DAW's piano roll; playing even the most basic chords or melody on a keyboard/midi device the performance becomes that much more expressive (an extension of the musician)... The MPC becomes an instrument to the composer/producer to me making the music just more expressive
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Why use an MPC when you already have a DAW that does everything better.
@@Gearrion you are right in that most DAWs can do everything the MPC does however the term better is subjective... BUT the two things that I advocate is (1) the extension of expression as the machine becoming an instrument and (2) sound - even with the latest MPCs being very clean; that analog dimension still adds flavor
Anyone else use MPC as a VST, inside a DAW? FL 21 got too much going on to ignore it completely
True. Where you from.
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Nice vid, personally I feel the only thing the daw has over standalone is the vst/ plugin capabilities
Thanks! That’s really it, just gotta be creative with the MPC without them sounds.
@@Dahomestudio exactly
I just use the laptop as a big ass synth/rompler, the Mpc is the centerpiece
@@mecca777 nice!
@@mecca777how, vst3 doesn’t work on the mpc software so I can’t get all my sounds
Buying used gear is sometime bad but i always go brand new
Depends on what it is for me. I’ll get some used monitors or midi keyboards or compressors, But computers and stuff like I just cant do it. Unless it’s something real old.
whats your thoughts about NI Maschine?
Fire 🔥 That’s what my buddy been using. I played around with it and I like that one to. I been watching videos and it’s kinda the same.
@@DahomestudioI’ve been a loyal Maschine user for 10 years and now every one is telling me to switch over to MPC because they say it’s better but I don’t see it. Is it worth switching?
@@biggareid I think it depends on your workflow.
I got fl a mpk 69 and mpc bests im pretty set i got a mpc on my pc
Brotha can i get your help pls! I have studio one and see you have the wa - 76. Im. Having a rough time with delay or a feedback loop. Could i have a chat some how if you have any help
You having delay with the hardware?
Yes sir even with pipleline.
I have like a feedback loop where the pc and the hardware are playing can only use the compressor solod which is pointless lol@@Dahomestudio
@@HijakMC what kind of interface you have? Are you running- mic- mic pre - interface - DAW?
The track you record your vocals on- Try muting that track then hit record.
@@Dahomestudio i don't want it for tracking that's fine.
Motu ultralite mk4 just want to ve able to compress individual channels in the daw
@@HijakMC you should’ve have a delay- you run out mono and come back in mono- mins is setup like this.
I go out of 3 and come back in on 4. Let me mess around with it and find out what’s causing that delay. I’ll hit back in a min
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At this point for me they're all mostly the same, just a few different nuances here and there ... Every tool of choice has their pro and cons, but at the end of the day they're just that... tools! It all depends on the type of music you make and what you're comfortable with for creating right away. In my case, over the years I've had the MPC 2000xl, mpc 1000, MPC 2500, Korg triton, Yamaha Motif.... Sold all that stuff years ago, and now I've learned to master using Studio One 5 and FL Studio 21 (with of course a good MIDI controller and some really good 3rd party instruments/fx vsts)... I like to create different genres of music and I'm more on the composer side of things , so I find my daw workflow a lot quicker than when I had hardware.... But again, to each his own... end of the day they're all similar tools for your personal end result
Definitely have the same end game- I just feel a lot more creative with the Mpc than the Daw, but I can work both if I had to.
Did you grow up with a computer? You're fucking with a DAW like FL Studio or Pro Tools.
Did you not grow up sitting at a computer? You're most likely going to fuck with an MPC.
They both are great tools to make music. You can do more with a DAW but that doesn't
mean you still can't make incredible music with an MPC. I've been fucking with the MPC
for 25+ years. I still remember my first MPC 1000 that had the Spiderman theme. These
days I've had an MPC X since it was released. Even still, barely touch it. I'm at the point
where I'm thinking about selling it, but probably won't, just because I enjoy having it even
though I hardly ever touch it. I FL Studio 99% of the time I make new music. I grew up
with a computer and I'm on a computer more hours a day then I'm not on a computer.
I threw my mpc away in 2020...switched over to the DAW...
😮 no way lol
I would buy a new MPC in a second if they had better converters.
Are you tracking into a DAW?
Music is what I do and I'll never spend that money for an MPC....
That is unless I get really rich. Then I'm buying all of them.
Why ? cuz I can and fugg that
Giv me an mpc..n gladly sell as I get it....😅
Fr bro mfs be abusing music equipment especially MPCs 😂
😂😂 hell yea man!!!
money good but money dont make beats you can cook on a budget hell i just got the mini for now until but you need to get Arcade that mf will up yo game instantly
MPC is a DAW, most people don't understand this.
True- i just see as a different workflow
MPC can never outpace a DAW on a good rig. You're limited on the CPU side; how are you going to compare a $900 CPU in a Macbook vs a $200 CPU in an MPC. How many channels can you mix with the MPC cause again you are limited with RAM on that MPC. The sample quality and size are limited by the lack of storage space on that MPC as well. Need a plugin or two? Not with that MPC; not going to happen.
Boycott computers in general... Music created on a daw is souless... Bring back the soul of music by using external hardware, instruments, and the mpc's...
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Its ALL about HOW you edit. Quantization is NOT the way. From I touched Logic Version 5.0, I've never switched since. I had a MPC 3000 LE & I got rid of it. I like to go in on Pulse Per Quarter note precision. NO 16T or 32T rubbish. I FIND MY OWN locations for beats. The DAW DOES nothing until YOU DO.
All of the music you’ve heard since mid 90’s has been either been made or mixed and mastered with a DAW
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So there’s a 99% chance the music you think is soulful has been made with protools, logic, FL studio, abelton live, Cubase etc 😂😂😂😂
@@smokindatshit8268 True- it’s not a sound thing, for me it’s the workflow and playing everything with your hands 🙌 and than we put in a DAW to finish lol
They’re just tools you could record live music into the DAW also
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