The Rich History of the Ruy Lopez | Climbing the Rating Ladder vs. 2074

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  • čas přidán 27. 06. 2023
  • In this continuation of the "Climbing the Rating Ladder" series I take on players of various ratings levels while pointing out typical mistakes and spots for improvement along the way (possibly my own!? :)). Here I commentate a 10+0 game against a player rated 2074 on Chess.com. The Ruy Lopez (1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Bb5) has one of the finest pedigrees in the chess opening realm, and in this game, via a Nimzowitsch Defense move order (1.e4 Nc6), I aim for the Flohr-Zaitsev System of the Closed Ruy Lopez (that's a mouthful! :)). Nuances abound in this fascinating opening, but we can't lose sight of the basics, such as capture sequences and the relative value of attackers and defenders!
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Komentáře • 53

  • @matthewhaworth8127
    @matthewhaworth8127 Před 10 měsíci +94

    Flash Photography here, as I said in our game, it was an honour - I only wish I'd given you a bit more of a game! Truthfully I'm just glad I lasted as long as I did against an IM, since I actually only started playing chess just over a year ago. After you played the Nimzowitsch defense I decided against playing 2.d4 on the basis that you probably know what you're doing in that opening, so wanted to transpose into the usual King's pawn opening. I half considered playing the Belgrade Gambit, since that has some interesting lines but instead decided on the Ruy Lopez. I was hoping you'd play the Marshall, since I often find I can weather the storm and emerge material up. You were absolutely right in saying that I wasn't pushing e5 due to Ne4, so decided to try and complicate things, but I completely missed Rxe4 after Nxe4, slightly annoyed I blundered a piece so early on. A pragmatic finish too, taking my knight off was my only real hope of any play. Thanks again for the game.

    • @bloodydj63
      @bloodydj63 Před 10 měsíci +54

      You just started a year ago and you’re rated 2074??? What are you eating and where can I get some of it 😂

    • @jonnybingham1
      @jonnybingham1 Před 10 měsíci +2

      @@bloodydj63he’s clearly naturally gifted

    • @marcbriseboise1850
      @marcbriseboise1850 Před 9 měsíci +2

      I've been studying for 20 years and I don't know what the Belgrade gambit is

  • @Uerdue
    @Uerdue Před 10 měsíci +4

    Concerning all the gambits white can throw at you after 1. e4 e5, what I learned to do is:
    1. Take the first pawn (as you use to say),
    2. do not take the second pawn (as you use to say),
    3. play d5 a.s.a.p and
    4. be ready to sac a pawn or two yourself!
    To me, that's the real beauty of 1.e4 e5 - the good old chess principles back from the days of Steinitz and the like are as valid as ever.

  • @robertgelblum5154
    @robertgelblum5154 Před 10 měsíci +2

    Interesting opening in this game. A closed Spanish (or Ruy Lopez), Flohr - Zaitsev variation - I haven't seen many people play that since some old Kasparov - Karpov world championship match in the 1990s, I think. I have played both sides of the Spanish but personally I tend to go for earlier deviations with either colour. So, as White I have played, eg. the Exchange Variation, lines with an earlier d4 or an early Qe2. And with Black, after 1 e4 e5 2 Nf3 Nc6 3 Bb5: 3...f5 or 3...g6 or 3...Nge7 or 3...Nd4 (as well as the standard 3...a6) and other lines. In general, I like to try to shepherd my opponents into specialty openings that I have studied hopefully better than them, rather than vice versa falling into my opponents' deep prep.
    In the game itself, that was a very important discussion of the importance of calculating variations the correct way. I notice that you disagree with Kotov, who stated categorically in "Think (or Play?) Like a Grandmaster" that a player should strive to go through the analysis branches only once! You showed excellent technique in winning the ending quite effortlessly, even though you had little clock time left. Finally, I read below that your opponent claims they've only been playing chess for a little over a year (!). If this is true, then they are playing marvellously well, and I predict a very bright chess future for them!

  • @Medkar
    @Medkar Před 10 měsíci +3

    Amazing analysis! More Ruy from both sides please, very instructive positions!

  • @user-ol8yj7lg4i
    @user-ol8yj7lg4i Před 10 měsíci +3

    Nice! Just a few observations. I've had that exact position as Black in a tournament game (with h6 instead of g6). The move Nf1 is a typical mistake because it's such an automatic maneuver for White Nbd2, Nf1, Ng3. The main point of the Zaitsev is to prevent this very maneuver!! The Bishop on b7 and Rook e8 exert too much pressure on e4.
    I think I've still got an old book lying around by Anatoly Bykovsky (?). Invested what seemed like endless hours studying and learning it all. But now I don't play e5 anymore- It's so rare to get the proper closed Lopez on the board. I got it about once a year. You get the Scotch, Scotch Four Knights, Four Knights Game, Guioco Piano (esp. pianissimo e4 e5 Nf3 Nc6 Bc4 Bc5 d3 Nf6 Nc3) all the time. So now I play the French so my opponents can hate their position instead.

  • @ThomasEWalker
    @ThomasEWalker Před 10 měsíci +3

    Indeed, they did 'argue' this stuff quite deeply! A few lines Kasparov cleaned Anatoly's clock on the Q side with those knights - and I beat a 2350 twice in long games with those lines (!) without ever using a minute! I felt like I'd cheated. That poor guy had a 0-3 record with me, and my rating was below master the whole time. ---> One should pay attention to WC matches, yes?
    ;-)

  • @Orion-zq8jf
    @Orion-zq8jf Před 10 měsíci +10

    Early vid today! Always like to see a climbing the ladder vid with 2000 plus///good game, very instructive as per usual.. ocean of knowledge during the analysis,. thx

  • @Suho1004
    @Suho1004 Před 10 měsíci +3

    I agree (and I've said it before) that they should not give you the name of the opening. You're right that online chess is always going to be different, but things like pre-moves are just game mechanics. There is no reason, mechanical or otherwise, for the platform to give you the name of the opening while you are playing the game. In the analysis, yes. During the game, no.

  • @westofwahpeton4692
    @westofwahpeton4692 Před 10 měsíci +10

    I’m definitely going to go back and rewatch that calculation for rook takes. That was great. Those are spots I need to improve in my own play.

    • @_-__-____
      @_-__-____ Před 10 měsíci +2

      Counting material in those types of situations is really tough!

  • @TheBuddhaBilly
    @TheBuddhaBilly Před 10 měsíci +7

    Silky smooth again. Love it when you tell the 'story' of a chess game. Every move has a clear purpose, not easy to repeat for us mortals, definitely not at crucial times in the game.

  • @solomontruthlover5308
    @solomontruthlover5308 Před 10 měsíci +4

    Love these instructive videos. It does take more patients but it's definitely worth it. I know I'm playing best when I'm trying to play in the John Bartholomew mindset. Thanks for all you do big brother John

  • @seanlee7054
    @seanlee7054 Před 10 měsíci +5

    My cat Lenny and I love your videos! Our 2nd one weve watched so far

    • @JohnBartholomewChess
      @JohnBartholomewChess  Před 10 měsíci +11

      Hey Lenny this is John 🙋‍♂️

    • @seanlee7054
      @seanlee7054 Před 10 měsíci +2

      @@JohnBartholomewChess He's busy cleaning himself after you went into ruy lopez theory lol. I guess cats don't enjoy the Berlin?

  • @JaysCigar
    @JaysCigar Před 10 měsíci +2

    super clean - impressive!

  • @tlee7653
    @tlee7653 Před 21 dnem

    Thank you, John.

  • @brendan4970
    @brendan4970 Před 10 měsíci +1

    Thanks JB

  • @ettolrach
    @ettolrach Před 10 měsíci

    Hey, always fun to see a game from you! I was wondering whether you could play a Benoni or Benko Gambit if you get a black 1. d4 game. That's my choice against d4 and it's not the most popular defence so I don't see a lot of videos on them, and I can only rewatch your old standard videos with them so many times :P hope you'll have a good day!

  • @rwj5954
    @rwj5954 Před 10 měsíci +1

    John with 5:55 left on clock , I need to speed up a little....burns around a minute and 15 seconds on next move 😄

  • @walterbrownstone8017
    @walterbrownstone8017 Před 10 měsíci +1

    I started chess a few years ago with the Ruy Lopez. The are a ton of variations that are good for both sides. I definitely don't regret sticking with this opening. Many times I would go to analysis and say wow that was a great game. But if could start again I would grab a list of trappy lines and learn them instead. Just for all the laughs.

  • @brasileirosim5961
    @brasileirosim5961 Před 10 měsíci

    Who would trade everything to play an endgame? Nice video, thanks John!

  • @Musicrafter12
    @Musicrafter12 Před 10 měsíci +1

    The thing about castling on move 7 is that you will probably get white to play an Anti-Marshall which is not as testing, even if you never intend to actually play the Marshall in the event of white allowing it with 8. c3. It's almost a bluff of sorts, which is why all the super GMs like 7...O-O.

  • @goldenlion3184
    @goldenlion3184 Před 10 měsíci

    John: transposes to e4 e5.
    Me: gulp. No D4? What is this wizardry?!

  • @jpchris96
    @jpchris96 Před 10 měsíci +2

    Hey John! Love the channel! You mention you often record these videos in the evening, are you still located in Minnesota? (I may be trying to work out the best time to have a 10+5 challenge open to sneak onto the channel! ;) )

  • @nocurve2329
    @nocurve2329 Před 10 měsíci +1

    Nice game and analysis. Do you ever play the black lion? , although dubious.

  • @marlowe5511
    @marlowe5511 Před 10 měsíci +1

    Thanks for the vid John! Would love a Carro or leningrad dutch next time you have black!

  • @Jake_Cotumaccio
    @Jake_Cotumaccio Před 10 měsíci +1

    Hey John, appreciate the content. During the analysis you refer to looking for imbalanced e4 openings (Scandi vs. just playing e5). We all know you love the Scandi, but what exactly is it about that opening that you like so much? Why that vs. something like the French or Caro? Thanks!

    • @JohnBartholomewChess
      @JohnBartholomewChess  Před 10 měsíci +1

      I've always liked the Scandi as a practical weapon against 1.e4 because White doesn't tend to prepare for it as much as other openings, and Black can expect to get the position 2.exd5 Qxd5 3.Nc3 pretty frequently. If you have knowledge and experience from there (most always greater than your opponent), you're on firm footing!

  • @mohammedshoaib1774
    @mohammedshoaib1774 Před 10 měsíci

    Please make a video on scliemann defense

  • @boopertime4282
    @boopertime4282 Před 10 měsíci

    Hey Ruy, this is Lopez and welcome to another climbing the rating ladder video. I'm playing John rated best in the world.

  • @walterbrownstone8017
    @walterbrownstone8017 Před 10 měsíci +2

    I absolutely agree about the gameboard giving you the opening name. My opinion is it's cheating. What's next, a free engine move every game?

    • @gravitywavesRMS
      @gravitywavesRMS Před 10 měsíci

      I wouldn’t say it’s cheating, as cheating suggests one player unfairly having an advantage. It might change the game a bit though.

    • @walterbrownstone8017
      @walterbrownstone8017 Před 10 měsíci

      @@gravitywavesRMS Well then using an engine isn't cheating either because both can use an engine

  • @dannytran1587
    @dannytran1587 Před 8 měsíci +1

    5:50 Have to slightly disagree. If I’m playing a blitz game or something, I’d love to know the name of a variation in case I want to study it in the future (without having to analyze every game for the opening name). Just seems quicker and convenient. I doubt knowing the opening name would offer an advantage unless it was against a strong opponent who’s studied that variation previously

    • @JohnBartholomewChess
      @JohnBartholomewChess  Před 8 měsíci

      I can see this viewpoint! It's not a big deal one may or the other; coming from the competitive, over-the-board chess world it seems like a descriptor that can needlessly influence the game, but I understand for most player it doesn't represent an edge (if anything).

  • @connormonday
    @connormonday Před 10 měsíci +1

    just curious if White repeated twive in the opening would you have played h6 or Re8? I always liked this variation but I didn't like that White can feint a draw even if they don't want one by repeating twice.

    • @JohnBartholomewChess
      @JohnBartholomewChess  Před 10 měsíci +2

      Likely ...h6 :) And yup, from White's perspective, I've always felt like they should throw in Ng5+Nf3 once, just to see how Black reacts.

  • @michaelf8221
    @michaelf8221 Před 10 měsíci

    30:10 Kasparov and Karpov actually debated the Zaitsev in multiple WCC matches ('85 and '90), but I think you're referring to the famous 1990 WCC match where Kasparov won a beautiful game sacrificing nearly everything on the kingside and finishing with the quiet move Kh2!! to blow Karpov off the board.

    • @Kyle-ys3cv
      @Kyle-ys3cv Před 10 měsíci

      When I think “blew him off the board”, I think ~15 moves.

  • @manisdogfish
    @manisdogfish Před 10 měsíci

    Hi John, how to have the motivation to study chess everyday?

  • @IMChessMD
    @IMChessMD Před 10 měsíci +1

    Hey John, long-term fan. I recently improved from 1600 to 2000 and would love to learn from you. Please let me know if that is possible.

    • @IMChessMD
      @IMChessMD Před 10 měsíci

      By learn, I mean play one game. That would be a real honor🙏🏼

    • @JohnBartholomewChess
      @JohnBartholomewChess  Před 10 měsíci

      Fantastic progress!!
      You can feel free to email me. If you navigate to my "About" section (you might have to be on desktop), you can find my email address. Looking forward to hearing from you.

  • @boceksiadam
    @boceksiadam Před 10 měsíci

    Haha, I watched you for long enough that I remember you shittalking e5. Saying something along the lines of "Strong players will torture you in those king's pawn positions, once you come to my level you will appreciate the beauty of sicilian". Do you remember when you changed your mind about that?

    • @JohnBartholomewChess
      @JohnBartholomewChess  Před 10 měsíci +2

      Honestly doesn't sound like something I'd say 😅 Possible I was just talking broadly about unbalancing the game

  • @bbbrown3408
    @bbbrown3408 Před 10 měsíci +1

    another wanna lose early player but i will not res

  • @douglasmcbride960
    @douglasmcbride960 Před 10 měsíci

    😚 Promo-SM