Austrian Rast & Gasser 1898 at the Range
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The M1898 Rast & Gasser revolver was the last iteration of a series of revolvers, and was a standard Austro-Hungarian sidearm during WWI (despite the adoption of the Steyr M1912 selfloader). The M1898 an often underappreciated handgun, with a number of useful features and a very high standard of manufacturing. These features include use of the Abadie system to disconnect the hammer form the trigger when the loading gate is open, to allow much faster reloading, and a hinged sideplate for easy and complete access to the working parts. In addition, it has an 8-round cylinder, equal (or greater!) in capacity to any semiauto pistol in service during WWI and for some time thereafter.
That's a pretty slick way to load a revolver.
I bet that click had a very satisfying feel. Agreed. Very slick!
That hammer disconnect seems like such a great idea, I really wish more old revolvers were like that.
Although they never caught on in America, such systems were common on European double-action revolvers of the period.
When you demonstrated the usefulness of the loading gate-disconnect for reloading, I actually applauded. That is one of the most clever things I have seen in a revolver and really gives this pistol some worth. I am surprised I have not heard of the Gasser name before, this video will have me doing some research!
Excellent video as always!
That loading gate disabling the trigger spur mechanic is unbelieveably cool. I can see why it'd be frowned on today for potentially facilitating negligent discharges or at least bad habits, but I still applaud the genius of it's ergonomic value.
Uberti really really should make modern reproductions of these... This would be the ideal gun to introduce somebody to firearms with, the person would immediately understand how it works and why things are done a certain way, and its very safe too, low recoil, low noise, lightweight and pretty bulletproof...
PROs: the easily opened action is great to show how a revolver works. GREAT fit and finish. Those revolvers were made by skilled craftsmen who were proud of what they made, and rightly so.
CONs: the Abadie loading gate has a gargantuan cringe factor safety-wise: learning to pull the trigger for any other function than firing the gun? Nope!
@@marcodellacqua15 it was actually sorta common (by that I mean it happened more than once) for military revolvers to only rotate the cylinder upon pulling the trigger, the Bodeo M1889 is another revolver I can think of that had a similar mechanism
@@loganatorman2527 Yes, I know. It adopted the Abadie system as well (it was pretty common at those times in many firearms).
Still, not something that we would consider "safe" after over a century of weapon development and gun safety lessons learned.
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@@marcodellacqua15This is the first thing that comes to my mind as well. Arms of this era seem to have an operational learning curve that contrasts really hard to the ubiquity of standards today. Despite the fact that the trigger system is actually quite intuitive for gate loading, that would be the largest hurdle for repros in a new market. The large amount of similarities in systems today is nice from a practical standpoint, but leaves very little for new creative or unique ways of doing things.
Fascinating, I've never seen a Gasser revolver before this video,
always learning something on this channel.
Good; I'm doing my job right. :)
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It was called the Abadie system, named after the Belgian gunsmith who invented it, and is a feature in a fair number of European revolvers dating as far back as 1878. The French 1892 revolver uses it, as do the Swedish Nagant revolvers (though not the Russian ones), the Italian 1889 Bodeo, and the Swiss 1882 revolver.
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You certainly are!
Thanks.
***** French chamelot -delvigne revolver uses the same loading system.
I absolutely love this pistol. It is gorgeous and very ergonomic and functional design. They would be awesome to use in cowboy action shooting (as the date would allow). I would love to own this gun. the way it opens up without needing tools to get to the trigger mechanism is nice.
If you're able to, get your hands on one! As an owner of one of these, I can conclusively confirm that Ian is spot on with his assessment of the quality of manufacture and fit on these. The ammunition, by sheer nature of its lack of use outside of this revolver, is comparatively easy to find at acceptable prices these days. The revolvers themselves are still decently priced, factoring in the inflated nature of the surplus gun market at present. I know it's been many years since you made this comment, but all the best to you!
What a fine steampunky, victorian revolver! I nearly dropped my monocle in astonishment! ;)
The strawing is in amazingly good shape. Looks like it was made in the 1990's, not 1890's.
It reminds me of webley MKVI
would love if a company brought these back as exacting replicas!
I know it's been several years since you made this comment, but let me say as an owner of an original wartime example that the price on these in the US is reasonable enough that you're not being eaten out of house and home to get these (and their ammunition), in spite of the present political and economic circumstances. They're fantastically reliable, and like Ian has said, made to a very high standard of quality control, especially for the time and even by today's standards. I highly recommend purchasing one (as I did) if you find yourself with the money for such an investment.
What a gorgeous and innovative revolver for the era :-)
+mallory1970 My Prussian heritage had your back big time in ww1.
Probably one of the few CZcams channels that I "thumbs up" within the first few seconds after the video starts - every time.
Oh, that's one cool design - and I'm becoming sort of addicted to pre-WW1 handguns...
I absolutely love old military revolvers. (Type 26, Webley, Nagant, this thing, etc.)
Although the videos shot in the RIA are very interesting, I really like these range videos as those guns are usually fired, especially now with the slow-mos. It just makes it awesome to see these old weapons in action.
Thanks for the great upload!
I think this just beat the webley as my new favorite revolver.
What a beautifully made and well thought out revolver
Hard to decide which is more interesting, the history of the design, production and use of the weapon or the actual weapon itself. Well presented, thank you.
I love your videos! It's hard to make a video that's both informative and entertaining. Thanks for all your hard work!
Eight shot,smokeless!Amazing loading function!That 's an astonishing piece of engineering,..
Great video as always. Didn't know much abt them. The variety of older military revolvers has always been very interesting.
What a cool old revolver. I love the disconnect feature when the loading gate is open. Cool video. Keep hunting down these neat old guns Ian.
Gorgeous! The loading feature alone makes this cool, but it's that black and gold finish and the Austrian quality that really makes this special.
Thank you for the videos, this is my favorite firearm's channel on youtube.
Such a cool revolver. Need to get one!
Hi Ian, really enjoy your entertaining and thoughtful commentary. Your knowledge about so many different guns is amazing and you are obviously very passionate about the subject. Please keep the videos coming.
I have been looking for one of those for a few months myself best of luck with your treasure hunt and keep the good work Forgotten Weapons is great
This is a great video. I enjoy the combination of information about the gun and getting to see it in action.
Watching this again I cannot believe how pristine this gun is! Thank you Larry for letting Ian show us your treasure!
Wow. Very cool revolver. Some nifty features there. Also, great AV quality on the video, thanks!
amazing sample of simplicity and practicality .... I like it .
That looks like a really well thought-out design. Cheers!
"Rast & Gasser" sounds like a pair of video game characters from the mid to late 2000s
Outstanding ! Good work FW..
Thank You Dylan for the great demo!! You also helped me figure how to disassemble... it's not easy to figure out on your own
I know it’s an older video, but it helped me a bit since I’m out “shopping” for one of these right now. So thanks a lot! 👍🏼
Great video Ian.
Thank you! An excelent review for excelent gun!!!
That is a really cool revolver. Very slick looking mechanism. I like how it comes apart. Would make a unique addition to any collection.
This has to be one of the nicest revolvers ever made from a practicality standpoint; I don't know of any other revolver which is so easy and quick to reload. It would be a very nice gun from which to make a reproduction, though such a thing would be very expensive to reproduce.
I assume you mean from a historical standpoint. Pretty much any swing out cylinder revolver beats this from a practicality standpoint. Swing out revolvers are even faster when using speed loaders or moon clips.
+Ben M Indeed. Even crazier, Rast made a swing out version of this gun for trials but the military chose the gated version.
Nice design, the disassembly in particular really like it.
Overall it made me think of the Nagant revolver, they share a number of features.
Very informative video btw :)
Very cool revolver, thanks for the video
I must admit, I'm an avid revolver collector and I was leaned far back watching the video until I saw the trigger index feature of the cylinder. _mind blown_ Must buy one.
Perhaps somebody before me mentioned this but the hammer disconnect feature is known as the Abadie system also seen in the Swiss Schmidt ordnance revolvers.
Such an elegant and well-thought-out mechanism...
Amazing craftsmanship & artistry.
I'm not a huge revilver fan but that sure as heck is one innovative and neat gun. For a fixed cylinder that is one of the most innovative and quick and easy to use from what I see. Really cool!
I only had once in my live a gasser in my hands (a collector Item), Thanks for uploading!
I just saw one of these for sale at a local pawn shop, very interesting gun!
COOL ! I never heard of these before now , one of the reasons I subbed !
That is pretty slick. I want one.
Very nice, thank you !
Very cool design. Thanks
Nice thanks for sharing.
Keep up the good work!
It is also safe to use 32 S&W long ammunition in these Rast&Gasser revolvers which might be easier to obtain for US shooters/collectors. But the accuracy suffers as the bullet is .008" smaller in diameter.
Kind regards from Austria!
Heheh. You really got me when you started indexing the cylinder that way. What a cool feature!
Nice gun, I really like it. Extremely well-designed and not bad looking either. It’d be great to see something on the old big-bore Gasser revolvers too. :)
I like this gun. It was a great design.
This is a great lookin revolver. Thanks for the video.
Ti ringrazio tanto per questo video. Posseggo anche io una Rast & Gasser ma non avevo idea di come aprirla per poterla pulire e lubrificare per bene. Nel video sei stato chiarissimo, e benché la mia revolver sia molto più rovinata e arrugginita della tua, sono riuscita ad aprirla. Credo nessuno l'abbia mai aperta dal 1945 ad oggi! Grazie!
Even before Ian pointed it out, I thought to myself... "what a wonderfly made firearm"!
That reloading mechanism is the slickest.
this gun is better than the new guns nowadays
Jumpin Jack Flash, it's a Rast & Gasser :)
If I was a soldier during World War I, besides the Colt 1911, this would be my pistol.
I honestly admire the design and am attracted to this revolver. Though I am not too fond of Metallic Cartridge guns, this would be one to add to my collection.
The revolver is also nice on the disassembly, as that the side plate opens up to show the action, much like a Japanese revolver of the same period.
Now that is slick, especially for that era.
interesting! i never have heard of this revolver before. nice video!
So friggin cool. I would love a .38 special reproduction of that thing.
So cool! Gotta love these late 18th early 19th century firearms. The fit and finish on some of the guns of the period is just outstanding and can put new modern guns to shame!
Love the color scheme
5:56 wow that was silent! it may be the mic but it sounds like a real good suppressor!
One of the prettiest guns I have seen
Dang that old intro music is the best
after seeing people saying good stuff about this gasser im glad i have one from my great grandfather, 1916 , that makes it 104 years old and still works good
What a sweet revolver. I'd like to see a replica in .357 Mag, probably wouldn't sell many though.
I had a Swiss Army revolver, that was remarkably similar to that one. Very nice weapon.
very nice i have never heard of these revolvers before
I love the loading mechanism.
First time today i saw this Revolver in action. My grand-grandfather had this one in WW1, but he had to give up his gun like everyone else when Hitler came back to Austria.
In vein with Austrian firearms, it'd be interesting to see you guys do a video of their straight pull rifle. The WW1 M95.
I would love to see you do a video on the revolvers used by Brendan Fraser in The Mummy. You've probably already had hundreds of requests, but I thought I'd ask anyway.
i’m surprised more manufactures of pistols didn’t copy that design of loading and unloading, but i guess swing outs are more practical but i love that design
That is one cool revolver.
Very nice mechanics! I love your stripping of these pieces! Another gun I would love to fire!
This design would be really nice in a modern pistol.
this is the coolest revolver ever! why dont they make them like this anymore??
Very nice
Is this faster to load by just removing the cylinder and just using a clip than using the loading gate?
No, it's definitely faster to use the loading gate. If nothing else, Using the gate means you only have to hold onto one piece, rather than the frame, cylinder, and cylinder rod all being separate.
That's such a slick design
I read about it in books, before, (thanks to Ian Hogg), but today I realized that I had never heard anyone SAY Rast-Gasser before. (This interwebs thing is getting gooder and gooder) First impression just on the shape. I thought it was awkward and ungainly. A closer look and I see the ejector rod(s). Ugh! Awful. But I was wrong. This is quite an interesting revolver and I am ultimately impressed. Yet another nice vid Ian.
what a nice revolver!
just love it ,,and great quality,,,rgds
Really cool
A weird one for sure. Nice video !
it doesn't look very pretty but all the mechanisms are really neat :O
when extracting , don't move the extractor rod, simply move the gun while the rod catcher is stationary
Looking forward to more material on the nambu type 94 pistol.
great video, can or have you done one on the colt .41
I would not used that loading gate hammer trigger disconnect since I have multiple revolvers and might make a mistake one day. I do have a gun or two with the feature, but index the cylinder manually when loading and unloading the same way I do with a Colt SAA.