A Pair of Arresting Montenegrin Gasser Revolvers
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This is quite the eye-catching pair of revolvers...
The Model 1870 Gasser was a behemoth of a pistol designed by Leopold Gasser for the Austro-Hungarian cavalry - it was built around the 11x36mm cartridge used in their Werndl cavalry carbines. This cartridge was a middle ground between rifle and pistol; light enough to not produce punishing recoil when fired from a short and light carbine, but fairly huge for a revolver. But it was not in the hands of those cavalry troops that these guns gained their notoriety.
Instead it was during the reign of King Nicholas of Montenegro from 1910 to 1918 that they saw their prominence appear. Nicolas decreed that all his male subjects must own a Gasser-pattern revolver under penalty of law. This was ostensively a move to make the tiny Montenegrin kingdom less vulnerable to conquest by any one of its larger neighbors, but allegedly may have also had something to do with the King owning stock in the Gasser firm.
At any rate, the law called for Gasser-*pattern* guns (not necessarily the real thing), and so a substantial demand flourished for Spanish and Belgian guns of that basic design. They were made in a huge variety of flavors; solid frame and hinged, long barrels and short, and many different specific cartridges, finishes, and levels of embellishment. With every man required to own one, the revolver naturally became a status symbol, with the more well-off showing their wealth through a highly decorated sidearm.
Whether you appreciate the style of these two or not, they certainly catch the eye!
My great grandfather was a gunsmith/smith in different trades kinda, had a montenegrin, which is still in my family, with an ivory handle with gold inlay. It's quite fascinating how a piece of history can land in your hands. Great grandfather was a Macedonian.
It's possible that your great grandfather might have armed the revolutionaries during the 1903 Krushevo Uprising. There are multiple images online of gasser revolvers standing by the motto of the uprising, which was "СЛОВОДА ИЛИ СМРТ".
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I lost it at "tiger striped desert eagle"
lol, you can buy gold plated tiger-striped desert eagles. So useless.
@@maximilianfranz2158 glint factor!
@@maximilianfranz2158 what are you talking about you can reflect the sun into someone’s eyes and blind them
Engravings....offer no tactical advantage whatsoever.
Not to mention in a survival situation: starting fires and signaling rescue helicopters, sending Morse code
"Engravings give you no tactical advantage whatsoever"
Eonymia but you can do some fancy shooting with these
*flips revolver*
Eonymia
But you gotta admit, they look *pretty good*
But you look good using them lol
Makes it easierto grip in cases i guess
Hello Ian!
Glad to see some Balkan arms on the show. I take an amateur interest and just wanted to add something.
Although Montenegro was never totally conquered by theOttoman empire, it had its frontiers occupied and was utterly surrounded.
Much of the weaponry carried through the centuries are characterized as Ottoman weapons and often have their origins in the middle east.
That is the influence of the grips. The jewels set, the silver, the engravings, that is all seen across the centuries and the various corners of the Ottoman empire.
Montenegrins as you mentioned, much like americans cherish their arms. That said, arms had a greater role in society and were commonly used as a display of wealth, as seen with these Gasser pistols.
This phenomena is seen in the Caucuses with silver gripped shashkas, in Yemen and the rest of the arab world with ornate Jambyas. In Montenegro, men would tuck this yataghans (short sabres) and daggers of all sorts and later pistols like these into their holsters (silav, bensilah) which were behind their sashes (trombolos) and display the weapons. This was a sign of respect not concealing arms) and allowed quick access if needed. Something not uncommon through the centuries of constant war and tribal feuds.
Here are some pictures: commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Crnogorska_ženska_i_muška_narodna_nošnja.png
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Best,
L.J.P
Very nicely written Luka,
Very cool,thank you
Great story.♤
Sad that today a lot of people dislike guns. A lot of histroy will be lost sooner or later. :(
My family is from the Caucasus and I can confirm this
The engraved example would have been stunning when new; the inlay details like the cross-hatching on the grip are _still_ quite impressive.
I'll take them for 2 male donkeys 5 hens and a bottle of fine wine.
Throw in 2 sheep and it's a deal! Lol
I'm from Montenegro and I can confirm, we're still armed to the teeth.
E upravu si !
Hell we do!
Bless yall & i hope you stay armed as it should be ❤
I ja Sam isto crnogorac
@@KuK137 dude good luck with your communist revolution using no guns
Love the gasser. Big damn gun for stopping big damn things.
Thanks for the units conversion for us non-americans, it is appreciated!
learn every language on the side like most of the world does with english
Sumi chobo It’s not a language, its a unit of measurment.
They are really beautiful and valuable. It has a beautiful collection of classic rare weapons behind it, and this is my favorite channel.
Hey Ian, I just want to thank you for making this series. I don't think people thank you enough for being so well spoken and being straight to the point! Best of luck.
The detail in the basket weave pattern is quite impressive.
Imagine duel wielding these two behemoths
Just wanna say I love your channel. Very satisfying.
Every time I see this video's title, I spend a moment thinking that 'Arresting' must be some fascinating, ultimately unsuccessful firearms action. I've been spoiled, and I'm not complaining!
Fantastic Ian! Thank you.
I saw guy use these one time at the range. He said he was going to use a carbine and revolver in a CAS match. I don't if he did but I give him props for thinking outside the box.
Montenegrin people are the bravest people in the world.. Everyone should read more about their history and they will see how many wars and battles did Montenegrin lead and won, of course. Btw, King Nikolas ,,I,, ruled the Montenegro country from 1861 to 1918 (57 years)
Montenegrins are Serbs.
Wow, literally every video I watch from you, Sir, is like reading an encyclopedia. Your knowledge and dedication to what you do is immense.
You have my admiration and utmost respect.
Man, those are just the guns. I wonder what a pimp cup from that time would look like...
Ian do you ever get nervous handling these old and really valuable guns? Because I know I would.
I make sure not to look at estimated values until I'm done filming. :)
Forgotten Weapons HaHa. Good idea.
Do you ever get any dirty grit on them?
@@KuK137 there's a lot of conflicting reasoning for and against glove use. Generally, wash your hands before you touch whatever you care that much about.
@@KuK137 What they're thinking is that when wearing gloves there's a higher chance of an item being dropped and irretrievably damaged. Fingerprints can simply be cleaned off which a gun of this value would likely be cleaned up right before they go to sale regardless. Besides, its not like the auction house just lets him go around doing whatever. He is generally asking the actual owners of the pieces (through the auction house) for permission to shoot a promotional film on the item. That's why he always plugs the fact that its up for sale at the end of the video and where you can find it. So the owners are more than able to put their own restrictions on how he handles it or just say no.
AYYYY I live in Montenegro!
2 wunderschöne Exemplare der berühmten Gasser Montenegriener, sehr schön, danke fürs zeigen!.
That peculiar form of balkan bedazzlement in silver gets me every time. The coral and turquoise is always a nice touch.
been pimpin since been pimpin since been pimpin..
They look absolutely amazing
I dig that little machined nob on the loading gate. It looks like a spindle handle off of an old school lathe. I might have to do some thing like that on my super blackhawk snubby.
I love the raised index notches on the cylinder.
What a Marvelous Bedazzled Beveled Grip you have on you'r Gasser! Said one Fancy Man to Another Fancy Man! BOMBASTIC MR FANTASTIC! oh shit I can't STOP!!!!
Beautiful design!
Regards from Montenegro :)
We are now mostly armed with Zastava CZ and Glock pistols. Also we have gun produced in Montenegro 🇲🇪 Tara TP-9
Have been reading up on the various Gasser revolvers ever since your first Rast-Gasser (I think it was) video. Cool pieces, I must say, even though I'm not a fan of the ornate grips.
Ian, i haven't laughed this mutch for months. Because if tiger striped desert eagle. I don't know if you know anyone from Montenegro, but if you do, i guess you reallised that this pistols reflect their character. Now, for the pistols, gasers with so mutch of engraving probably belonged to perjanicima, personal king Nikolas guard. And, for the sheer size of it. Serbs from Montenegro, and Serbs in general are considered to be among tallest people on earth. Greetings from Serbia :-)
Not gonna lie I've met a few peeps from Montenegro and they were big motherfuckers
On top of the barrel of the engraved one, it says "N1". I suppose that means Nicolas the 1st. That´s quite interesting! Theese old revolvers are so fascinating!
There are so many Gasser revolvers (9mm,11mm,8mm) the cheapest ones are about 250€. The Austrian Sturmtruppen in WW1 preferred this revolver, because of it's man- stopping-power.
M95 I would love to have one a shame they are so rare here in the US
There are lots of the M1898 8mm Rast&Gasser, but the 9mm and 11mm ones are harder to find in Austria.
I actually used the information from the book Sturmtruppen
(page 124) that was written by the director of the Austrian army museum. I know about the BF1 description, but I don't trust a video game over book written by an expert.
since there is already so mutch educational content about german in here i will ad my two cents, tha name of the guy (leopold gasser) is not pronounced lupold but realy l-e-o-pold the single e sounds mutch like an ey....
oh and by the way, as always its a pleasure to watch...
Thank you Edward Ezel, another esoteric pistol I recognized!
Don't know anything about pronouncing German
but love the engraving and the history lesson
always enjoy your videos
10:55 L.GASSER/PATENT/WIEN/OTTAKRING
OTTAKRING is the 16st District in Vienna.
I live in the 16th district in Vienna. and my father who was born in 1924 and my grandfather who was born in 1885 too.
Ian, you never cease to amaze me with your encyclopedic knowledge of firearms. Thank you for all you do! I especially love when you talk revolvers they have been a favorite of mine since I was a child and I am always happy to learn more about their rich history.
Dear Mr. Ian guy, how dare you mock the Desert Eagle, the best gun ever made. My Desert Eagle is so powerful I once went duck hunting and shot a satellite; My Desert Eagle is so powerful I once went to a shooting range and started a civil war; My Desert Eagle is so powerful it told me to write this comment.
Sent via my Desert Eagle
LastSixLVI just think of this as an ancestor to our beloved desert eagle
Does anyone know how they actually made those grips, specifically the cross hatching? was it cast, or engraved, or what?
Funny. I know of another Gasser who came from Austria.
ArtymusPrime Wow! Who is he? (Pressuming he is a guy)
ArtymusPrime this is so underrated. It made my day
ArtymusPrime This made me laugh.
It's snowing in Moscow, you know what that means
notice both of wars were actually started by the damn Austrians!
Wonderful video! I have always wanted one of these! But you would almost certainly have to turn your own brass to make these 11.3mm Werndl cartridges, eh?
I can't imagine those are comfortable to hold....
Wonderful revolvers. The grips are in a style I've always thought of a Czech, though at first sight, I wondered if they might not be Tiffany
wow amazing looking flashy guns :p
Desert Eagles? More like the best buddies of Harry Callahan. ;)
Magnifique, de très bons exemplaires 🥰👌
I can't articulate why, but I really like that long barrel with the engraving and the multicolored inset stones. It's just so fanciful, it looks like something Captain Hook would carry. How does the size compare to a Colt Walker?
Uh, why is "animal song for kids" in the suggestions?
Category: Education
I'm more curious about "Baby toy learning colors video hammer ball pop up wooden toys learn English fun game", and how that video got 1 600 000 views to begin with.
Forget for a moment that we're getting suggestions for children's stuff. Think of what those kids' parents must think getting a suggestion for a gun channel.
I thought it was just me.
same LMFAO
"learning colors"
"songs for kids"
Yeah arresting as in it makes you stop and admire, and its interesting to see that the rear sight isn't imposed with the hammer so it's a really good sight picture
Are there any revolvers that have the grip specifically made like a blunt weapon or a blade etc?
The Gaser M1870 which is the exact model are my favorite of the Gasser revolvers
Nicholas of Montenegro ruled from 1860 and these revolvers were not status symbol but very needed weapon for his army. Every adult - means every Montenegrin older than 12 needed to buy this revolver since you were soldier from 12-13 in that time. They were used from 1875 till the end of WW1.
What is that piece of metal on the right side of the frame above the trigger?
Do you know if any thought was given to simply going with a detachable stock instead of issuing a separate carbine?
The word gaudy comes to mind. Perhaps a pimp gun of the era?
This video is old asf, but now i know why a legendary skin in bf1 for the gasser is named king Nicholas
TheOneAnd OnlyUser Agreed 🙏
Dats some nice bling bling on that gun yo.
Would polishing the frames help the engravings to return closer to their original form?
This revolver is finer than a lot of modern revolvers 😥😥 swoon .. did you see that cylinder gap n the recessed chambers n those nice sights n its double action still too .. ik fixed closed frame is stronger than open frame too but gah i quite like the look of open .. this is besides the ornate features, such a fine revolver. Im not a collector but this piece i would enjoy possessing especially if someone remade this in a modern caliber and steel
I didn't really appreciate how big that gun is until I saw your finger next to the cylinder, that is a big frikkin cartridge.
I've always thought that a Gasser would have made quite the horse pistol. A heavy load of fff in that short Werndel would have been big medicine in those days. Couple it with the matching carbine and you would be quite well armed.
"Or you just need something to hang next to your tiger stripe Desert Eagle"
best line ever
come on Ian. You know we are interested in the entire gun, not just the grip. :)
Anyway, thanks for the new knowledge.
Guss stahl seems to mean crucible steel, very high quality
you mentioned that the Gasser 1970 uses the 11,3x36R, like the Werndl carbine. But didn't the Werndl use the 11.15×42R and later 11.15×58R cartridge? I am talking about the Werndl-Holub rifle, i didn't find any info on a Werndl carbine in particular.
He went over this in the video: The carbine used a smaller cartridge.
The most recent example of cartridge interchangeability that I can think of is FN developing both the P90 and the FiveseveN pistol around the 5.7x28mm cartridge...
Back when people made stuff that looked as cool as it worked...
If these rounds were basically the .45ACP of that era, does that make these handguns paired with the carbines the 1911 and Thompson of that time?
is the engraving art was done in the fabrication or after ?
Wow, the suggestions on this video
I would never ruin the aww inspiring sight of these two wonderful pieces of art by letting a DE50TGS sit near it. maybe one in fde or od but never tgs. hahaha
Wow those are cool pistols. I sooo want one. But sadly buying them would be such a massive headache Im content with watching all these videos.
Piękny rewolwer. Bogato zdobiony. Tylko pozazdrościć możliwości posiadania takiej pięknej broni.
Pozdrawiam Serdecznie !
Now that’s a gun control law that I can support: “Own a firearm or be prepared to answer to the law!” 😁🤣😉👍
"You don't want to get shot by these." I don't want to get shot by a paintball gun! I bet those grips rip your hands up when you pull the trigger.
Those grips look like they're ribbed for your displeasure.
Even up to this date there's intercepteble gun amo, td. H&K MP5 or the Tommygun!
I fell in over with these guns after seeing them in Battlefield 1. Ever since ive been trying to find a way to get a shoot able gin but with little luck
Pretty guns
what would be the price for a Gasser like this with serial number 1 and a picture (probably the king or the maker) engraved on its handle?
A 310 grain bullet going 700 FPS is not roughly equivalent to .45 ACP. A standard .45 ACP is 230 grain, and goes 800-850 FPS. It may be about the same caliber, but it's significantly slower and heavier, which results in far more penetration in soft targets. Something like that could easily kill a moose with one shot. Good luck doing that with .45 ACP. A more comparable cartridge would be a modern .45 Colt cowboy load, but even that is significantly lighter.
what was the long thin lever inbetween the cylinder and trigger guard for?.
I saw the same thing and wondered likewise. It doesn't look like a function lever of any sort as there is no wear visible from it toggling against the frame. Maybe an assembly component of sorts? Anti-walk pin set from the 1800's? Haha
Function of this thin lever on the right side of revolver is blocking hammer when you pull it on first notch in order to load ammunition in chambers.
Firing pin is long and you can't rotate cilinder freely until pull hammer on first notch.
A handgun chambered in 5.56 would be the ultimate cartridge interchangeability
I didn't think the coral cabachons looked too bad.The other grip was way too flashy though.I'd be tempted to swap grips.
Lady later video maybe you can go over the Winchester 33 model 1857
"If you need something to hang next to your tiger stripe desert eagle." Ian you cant just throw that kind of shade around. 10:29
The model has a lot of character
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Those grips look like a second grader's macaroni and glue art project.
Can anyone think of a cartridge they actually would like to get shot with?
A cartridge full of magic that gives me magic powers when it hits me.
If I *had* to get shot with anything, I'd take my chances with a 2.7mm Kolibri.
Well according to F.B.I. ballistic tests certain calibers have negative lethality numbers. So I can only logically conclude they must be good for your health.
.22 short.
There are certain guns encountered in Fallout that heal whoever they shoot. I’m still trying to figure that one out
how did they attach those gaudy grips to the guns?
+toomanyaccounts then where are the screws?
I love how Ian's distaste for highly decorated guns comes across subtly.... :-)
I wondered where S&W got the idea for their X-frame...
Those grips look like something in a brothel
“You don’t want to get shot one of these let’s just leave it at that”
Thank you for pronouncing "cavalry" correctly in your videos. So many people do not.
Thanks a pantload Ian. Now I kinda want a tigerstripe Desert Eagle 😨