3 channel trainer build
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- čas přidán 29. 12. 2015
- Build video for a 3 channel trainer. Single boom pusher style with a solid XPS foam fuselage and separate elevator and rudder. Designed to be as light and tough as possible for a durable slow flying trainer. More info below.
Wingspan - 1m
Length - 1m
Flying weight (1300mAH) - 550g
Motor - 2822/14 1450kV
Prop - 7 x 4"
ESC - 25A Plush
Servos - 2 x HXT900
Dimensions and more info here - newtonairlines.blogspot.com.au...
All my building materials and RC gear - newtonairlines.blogspot.com.au...
Knauf XPS insulation foam - www.bunnings.com.au/our-range/...
Bulk Depron - www.tradewarehouse.com.au/more...
Skyshark P4X spars - www.kitesandfunthings.com/Prod...
New Stuff iron-on film - EZload laminate - www.neopostonline.com.au/lamin...
Blank ID cards - Ebay www.ebay.com.au/usr/y2store?_t...
Newton Airlines blog (Plans) - newtonairlines.blogspot.com.au
Website - anewton.net
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Another great build.Thanks for the video Andrew. Enjoy the warmer weather!
+Christian Prodanov Will do Christian, as soon as the crazy wind calms down
Nice build, thanks for including info on the electronics.
I use plywood edge veneer under the rubber bands to protect the wing.
Amazing stuff. I'm just getting into all this, 10 sheets of depron are on their way to me. Your videos are giving me hugely important insight as to what I can expect with all the materials involved and all the extra bits I'm going to need. Thank you so much!
My pleasure. Just remember you can't bend depron unless one side is covered with tape
I've watched almost all your videos. I'm interested in building a rc plane and your videos are very helpful. Thanks for taking the time and for explaining the process.
+southernexposure123 My pleasure, Happy to help. Hope you're successful.
Awesome build , thank you for the training !!!!
Love your videos and build techniques!
These videos are so soothing to watch
Excellent, That makes me happy.
Love this. Wishing I has a friend like you ;). Great work, as always.
Thanks Andrew, good day mate 😊 down under, I'll be back & greeting from Germany thanks, cool design. Chris.
Hahaha, nice try Chris. The Aussie greeting is "g'day mate", you need to shorten the "good"
Thank you for this I’m learning on building my own right now and I just can’t get the control surfaces right
Good evening Mr. Newton, I have finished building my simple upgrade trainer as your instructions, I feel very happy about this since I am a beginner both in construction and in flying them. Thank you very much for your help. Having the video of the flight I send it to you.
You are very welcome
@@AndrewNewton thank´s
That looked fun, Nice build video.
+Graham R Dyer Ta
Hi Andrew,
I am new to RC planes and bought a float plane from the local store and I am having trouble getting coordinated and rather than trash this plane, I am building one of your trainers. I did not have any foam for the nose piece. I saw a woman in the store on the weekend with a pool noodle (foam tube for swimming) and found my solution. I cut it up last night and it works just fine. I think it is a little softer than packing foam, but I am certain it will do the job. Thanks for all the info you post - a huge help.
Excellent Peter, Pool noodle is perfect, I want to make a full fuselage from pool noodle one day.
Would you reinforce it? I definitely want to see the pool noodle build.
Nice plane my friend
thats awesome! great work!
thanks, enjoyed video and learned a bit
awesome video, good simple construction,very durable,way better than dollar store foam. I enjoyed your presentation. Expect a lot of people wanting to know what electrics you used. Geesh people,figure it out on your own sometime. scratch builds are about figuring that stuff out. The wings could be built using the flite test method of folding foam panels,its a learning type plane,so go learn it. Fun Flying!
+scott firman Thanks Scott. I am amazed at some of the questions that arise. Some people need to be hand fed, and others don't bother reading the description. But I do this because I enjoy it, so can't get too upset.
+Andrew Newton Its a passion for me now.
ficou ótimo!!!
Hello Andrew ,thanks for sharing your videos they are really helpful for beginners like me , you mentioned using 1300mah 3s in front and CG is about 4mm from leading edge,it didnt work unless using 2200mah instead to get it balanced at that ratio (24%)
Hope I can fly it this weekend :)
Hi Samah. I guess your tail is heavier than mine? Good luck with the flight, let me know how it goes. My CG is more like 50mm from the LE.
+Andrew Newton thanks..ok I will shift it back to 50mm and let you know how it goes .
excellent video as always Andrew!
Nice, might build one these babies ☺
Go for it. I'll help
amazing video!!!! thanks so much!!!
+Cristian Barilari Thanks Cristian
Hi there...I have become a bit of a fan of your after seeing this video......this can even be titled as ''RC Plane building skills'' for dummy's......LOL......as the way you have explained and shown is really simple and very helpful for the beginners.....I sincerely appreciate your effort for sharing this......am planing to start the build very soon......wouldn't be fair to do so before thanking you....cheers
+jitender singh Hello Jitender and thanks for the feedback, much appreciated. I have recently redesigned the tail of this one to be stronger. I'll do an update video very soon.
+Andrew Newton Great Andrew...looking forward for the updated video.....cheers
added to my build list! :)
good job
Hi, that is a really nice plane.
I have been experimenting with 3ch pusher motor as this one but always have problems finding the thrust angle, how do you find it so it does not dive the nose on full throttle?
+Jonathan Corredor My motor mounts are bendable so I keep tilting the motor forwards until it flies level. You may never be able to get it perfect at all throttle settings.
Great work Andrew! I'm interested in getting into cutting foam wings, but I have one question... How thick is the material you used for the tail section? Looks like about 10mm?
Yes that's about right. You could use 6mm depron or even 5mm foam board as well.
could you explain why the motor is oriented on the mount to provide thrust in a slightly downward angle. Ive just ordered all the electronics to make my first RC place and im interested in pushers because i dont want to break all of my props.
High mounted motor will push the nose down, angling the thrust down makes it fly level.
Thanks for sharing the plans. I think I have everything dimensioned out for my build. The only thing I didn't see was the angle of the motor mount. I may have missed it and will look again. If you have a chance I would appreciate it if you might reply the angle.
Hi Lloyd, it's about 10 degrees forward from vertical. Need to experiment a bit to get it right.
can the pink insulation type foam like we get from the local Home Dumpot stores here in the US be substituted for the type of foam you use?
Yes same stuff I assume.
Hello Andrew i built your design and it is working great thanks 😊 , i want to ask you about extending ESC cable to the battery is that safe or i need to add extra capacitor to the ESC.
No problem. I have done that many times with no extra capacitor.
Really wanted to buy your old purple and orange 3-channel trainer before you moved. But, seriously, if I can't follow what you've done here I don't deserve to own a plane. ;)
That was a wonderful slow flier. I'm sure you can build one
Do you prefer tape now over laminate for covering?
+Trouttaranaki Just for the colour. Both do the job.
I like your build videos Andrew. What receiver are you using in this model.? I use FrSky.
+David C Thanks David. Cooper, who now owns this trainer, uses a Turnigy i6 receiver. But I did use HobbyKing 3ch Rx with my 9XR transmitter.
Which type of foam sheets you are using
Read the description Arun
Build it never flew an rc plane but it went great !
Brilliant, so happy to hear that. Well done
G'day mate! I got it now, not bad for a "pom" though 😀
Perfect mate
Wonderful build Andrew, you have inspired me to make an XPS fuselage as well. Did you find that packing the battery in the foam caused any heating issues for the lipo? Thank you!
No heating problems, it's a small motor and I don't go full throttle all the time.
Thank you, I wasn't sure if it acted to insulate the natural heat or not. Glad to know it's not creating any adverse effects.
hey wondering if you have already a video or blog about how to used and apply New Stuff iron-on film - EZload laminate on your wings. I can't find any info about how to ..:( thanks
Just search my channel for New Stuff czcams.com/users/andyandvirgsearch?query=new+stuff
Andrew Newton thank you!!
Thanks for video very nestly instruction.
Can you tell me where I can buy XPS from in Australia.
Thank you
That would be linked in the description
Thanks. I get links.
Hi Andrew, i finshed the trainer. I didn't build it based on plans. If i remove all the electronics and test gilde it, then she glides smoothly, is this the correct centre of gravity?
If it glides straight then it is balanced well
@@AndrewNewton so when it's balanced well. Is the balance point is the CG ?
Just wondering.
How would you know what... Motor.. Prop...esc... And battery will work with what size plane.. Thanks.
Looking to make a 32 in slow fly.
Experience mostly. SunnySky 2216 1200kv with 8x6 prop and 30A ESC is a good standard for mid sized planes. Smaller motors for smaller planes etc. Motor spec usually tell you prop and esc required.
Thanks
I'm new to planes, but have built a couple of quads, and I have a question-do planes not have flight control boards? like do u just need a receiver?
Most planes don't have a flight control board and you just need a receiver, but they are starting to appear more often these days.
It surprised me, as well. RC planes are much simpler than quadcopters, and learning about them gives you some nice perspective into why quads are built the way they are.
Hi Andrew, can i build the same wing and add two airlenos with two servos at each tip ?
Yes but would not need as much dihedral
@@AndrewNewton alright thank you im cutting the wing now
Man, you make this look so easy I feel kinda mislead. it took you what, 3 hours start to finish including troubleshooting? My first rc plane took me a week! And 2 years later I still can't find good wires for the control surfaces servos, AND it crashed catastrophically on its maiden flight, AND it slashed my knee when testing it 😆... It was a steep learning curve I tell ya
Mwahaha, my evil plan has worked.
what is the size of prop and voltage of battery???
7 x 5" prop. 12v battery
mate what s decent hot glue gun would you recommend ? I got couple but they all not good. cheers
This is what I use www.bunnings.com.au/crescent-60w-230v-glue-gun-kit_p5810655 and the LiPo one from Hobby King
thanks ! does the crescent gun drips while on the stand ? or does it overheat the glue ?
Hello Andrew do you suppose that that build plans are available for me to build one ?
Yes, link is in the description
thanks
I have a Voltage Alarm what is the low Voltage Alarm need to be set at? I have never set it before.
You would set it at about 3.3 per cell. Seems low, but the voltage drops when the battery is being used. You would stop using the battery when it's about 3.7V per cell at rest, which is roughly 3.3V while flying.
Thank you now I know. And you don't how you have help with my question on everything.
Thank you Guy. Your videos are really useful for me. 🌷
My pleasure your Imperial Majesty
Ok tnxx
were do u get ur foam from
+alex Magarey Yellow insulation foam from Bunnings hardware (Only relevant to Victorian Aussies I suspect) or depron from Tradewarehouse.com.au
Hi do you use 2S or 3S batt in this pusher?
Designed for 3S
@@AndrewNewton Thanks!
Hi, how important is the weight of the hull on this wing dimension? I built my first model according to these instructions, but he does not want much air. I suspect the weight of the hull! After the throw, he will immediately fall. Please can you help me ?
Lighter is better, it will fly slowly and easily. How much does yours weigh?
Only body without wing and battery, weights 380g
That's a little heavier than mine but just means it would fly faster. Might be motor thrust angle or wing incidence. Does it glide at all when you throw it without motor power?
Hi again, when i throw it without motor, it fall immediately without any gliding
one day i will be like you
Aim for better I say
hello sir I want to know ur profession and what do u do? because I want to live the same life with planes because I love plane than even my life!
Hello Nikhil. I have worked in Ophthalmic Photography for over 30 years. RC planes have only been in the last 4 years but the success of this channel has allowed me to spend more time building, flying and reviewing.
I’m a complete noob. Bear with me. Why does it need to be dihedral/ poly hedral- as a result of being 3 channel?
What would happen if the wind were flat?
Good question Dave. To turn a plane it needs to bank into the turn, otherwise it skids sideways. Usually use rudder to initiate the turn and ailerons to control the bank. 3ch plane doesn't have ailerons so it uses dihedral to cause the banking. Rudder turns the plane slightly side on to the direction of airflow, in that state the dihedral rolls the plane.
Hi Andrew..
I am thinking of building this plane to teach my 6 yr old… could you please suggest a configuration or changes to make it fly slowly? Do you have any other plane that will be more appropriate to teach little kids?
My son is already practicing with a Sim and the radiomaster zorro at home.
Love your channel..Happy new year!
Thanks Adrain. Big and light is the kety to slow flight. The TC1400 is the best beginners plane to buy www.modelflight.com.au/prime-rc-t1400-electric-glider-pnp.html or look at FliteTest plans for foam board designs. Which country are you in?
@@AndrewNewton thanks Andrew for your feedback! I am in the USA.. I am currently building the Nutball, and the EzFly from the RC group… it looks like the EzFly will be able to fly slow..
And what about wing plz??
listen closely wing parts came from other busted airplane
What is battery voltage
3S Lipo 1300mAH 12V
Sir, if I use 2212 1400kv brushless motor n 2200mah battery in this plane, it will fly? Plz reply me Sir
What size prop?
@@AndrewNewton you suggest me Sir, which pop is suitable for this combination
@@SubrataDas-nb6fl 8x4" would be OK, or anything near that size
@@AndrewNewton can I use 8*6" prop, 2200mah battery n 1400kv brushless 2212 golden motor in this plane Sir?
What battery he is using?
1300 3S
Andrew Newton thanks
great vid :D andrew
just 2 questions how much do you pay for your carbon arrows? and how durable are they? do they ever brake? thx
+Airgunsmith NL Thanks. US$3.50 + postage. Never broken one, they are very tough.
Andrew Newton thx 😃
now i'm sure to buy some but need to look for a better deal the cheapest price i found whas 24euro for 3 arrows
I should have known that, my brother lived in Queensland for over 40 years.
Whats the weight?
+FunTom Specs are in the description.
Ai ai, que sossego .
Quiet? Yes it is
How much design work do you do before setting out on something like this? Any calculations you do beforehand? Or are you really just going by feel for shape and size? What about choosing the motor and prop (before you even know the final weight!)?
Educated guesses mainly, based on previous builds.
Where is cg ser?..
About 25% back from the leading edge
10:25 did anyone else hear him say hose instead of nose?
You're not meant to listen so closely! I mispronounce words all the time, and um and stutter.
hola Andrew, gracias por compartir tus creaciones con toda la gente, me gustan mucho tus trabajos y creo que voy a intentar hacer uno de tus creaciones el 3 cannel trainer, (espero que vuele como el tuyo), lo que no tienes es el video de las alas, podrias poner el video o mandarme unos planillos.Muchas Gracias.
+JOSE PEDRO Rico Thanks Jose. This video show how the wings were made - czcams.com/video/VTpS5iuob0A/video.html
Gracias Andrew, hacer las alas esta claro pero ¿ como se unen las alas que llevan el diedro?
+JOSE PEDRO Rico Nothing fancy. Just cut the join and glue at the desired angle.
Hi Andrew.
This is Protik Banerjee from India West Bengal hobbyist age 55yrs. I am Interior Designer in profession. few months back I saw your 3 channel Trainer and got the idea to build one. but the one I build with coroplast is around 1420 grams in weight. Fuselage is made of 20x20 aluminum
Can you guide me to build one 3 channel trainer. I got Turnigy D2826/6 2200KV motor, Turnigy Plus 40A ESC, 3s LIPO 25C 4000mah weight 328gms and 7x4 Master Airscrew pusher props, Note: Depron is not available in my state so i plain to make it with coroplast and thermocol.
So could you pl sagest me a size and design to learn flying gliders.
Thanks
Protik
Hello Protik.Follow the links in the description for more information. I have not used coroplast for wings or full fuselage. Your plane will always end up heavy. Have you tried Experimental Airlines Photon or Axon designs? They might be OK for your materials.
Hi Andrew Thanks for reply. What is the materiel used to make Photon or Axon designs?
I used depron, Ed uses Adams foam board, You can try coreplast maybe
What is the weight of your 3 channel trainer, What is the detail of Motor, Props and Battery.
Now I am planning to make it with Thermocole and laminate it.
How much load can my motor and props take. Once I complete the glider i will send you the photos.
Thanks
Protik, don't be lazy, read the video description
I need more foam .. . lol
Always!
Yep your not lying about crashing your first plane, I had a p51-D mustang 4 channel plane, ) channel controller and it didn’t last the first day
Ouch.
my cousin said the red baron crashed,hes gutted
Repaired and flying again, woohoo!
great to hear i will pass on the news to him he keeps looking for red baron flights godbless you and may god bless your flying
Here is the latest flight - czcams.com/video/2kwnICpAE-I/video.html
Andrew Newton
thanks for the link
Andrew Newt😕😕😅😑😅😇B-)B-):-$:-\B-):-*B-)
That is one butt ugly plane you got there.