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Hey Luke. So about that sniper class take. Yeah, umm, it's called levelling up. Just cause the class is slower at the start doesn't mean it isn't a beast later on. Already seen max difficulty play with the Sniper class and it's a BEAST. Bad take all around.
As someone with 60 hours in the current build and a maxed Sniper (Level 25), it is literally one of the strongest classes in the game (in fact, if it wasn't for Tactical getting full Melta ammo on Major Execution, Sniper would be unarguably the best). There is no other class that can take out entire groups of Major's without ever initiating combat (you can go invis, then stay invis for 2s post "invis break"). You just need the perks. The first few perks aren't very memorable, but they ramp up very quickly. Las Fusil with wide beam, and "gain +1 ammo when killing more than 1 enemy with a single shot" means you have insane add clear and infinite ammo. 75% bonus damage when coming out of Camo, and auto Camo on Perfect Dodge... GG. The sniper in this video is level 3. Sniper does not need a buff. It's crazy... crazy strong.
I don't think our boy is too experienced in build making in games. Nothing against him but certain games teach you stat and skill building like monster hunter and souls games. If you don't play those games hard-core it isn't apparent to you what potential some plastyles may have
IMO the heavy class NEEDS a melee weapon, at least a combat knife. Close quarters combat is absolutely guaranteed with the tyranids, let the big boys swing.
Or let them use their heavy weapons themselves as their melee option. It would be cool, thematic, and make them very different from the other class' melee options.
@@Johannicus Heavy has a stomp in this game as well, and he also swings his primary weapon as a melee strike. I'm just hoping it deals sufficient damage.
Just to drive that last point home about the "generosity" of Games Workshop a single box of Space Marine miniatures containing 3 to 10 plastic models will cost you more than this game. That's not an exaggeration.
I love the lore and the video games so much, but this right here is why I could never actually get into the miniatures. Well, that and my horrific painting ability 😅
There’s a reason sniper starts off weak. Only class that can be used long range without being hit. Let the boys up front eat while your staggering them for free executions sniper class is gonna break the game watch lol
Boss of the first mission: Something related to warping, some "discs", Tzeentch relation. So we have something that warps / has to do with warping, perhaps warping perception. Maybe a character that is able to warp our very own perception. Money throughout history has had a close relation to discs. Paper / fabric currency has only relatively recently been in circulation, as many of the developed nations have been using coinage for much longer. These coins saw much use by merchants, and those merchants very often belonged to individual guilds. These merchant guilds often would bankroll the careers of many creative types, and for that we often give a warm thanks to their many members. Finally, there's a relation to Tzeentch. The boss is SsethTzeentach.
Tbf, you wouldn’t take it? I feel like as long as he keeps his integrity within the review itself, the “bribes” are null. It shouldn’t have been done to begin with from Ubisoft, but still, it’s up to him to put out a non bias review.
Not knowing anything about warhammer beforehand, when i saw the gameplay trailer i thought it was weird there was even a sniper class. It didnt seem like sniping would be an effective way to deal with the hordes you face in game.
the sniper rilfes need better damage. And a better back up than the bolt pistol. ... maybe a rapidfire one. or two that have autofire (you just hold down the trigger instead of having to spam it)
It will almost certainly be invaluable in the PvE missions, allowing your teammates to focus on horde-clearing weapons instead of needing a mixed loadout, then you can safely pick off things like warriors or zoanthropes that might threaten or distract them.
They have perks on Las Fusil that increase the width of shot... and a perk that grants +1 ammo when you kill more than 1 enemy with a single shot. You can kill 10-15 enemies in a single shot during horde sequences, and retain basically infinite ammo.
@@stateofmortality1908 Yes. About 65 hours as of this post. I helped the Legacy Gaming guys capture footage (I have a Maxed Sniper - Level 25, among other classes all near 20).
This may not matter to some but it is nice to see A Black character that isn’t used poorly or overdone story wise So tired of my race being used a bargaining chip in games Games look Beautiful and Gritty
The game definitely needs more real-life politics. How do I even know who my space marine is voting for? I wish these devs would focus on making content for "modern audiences" instead of focusing on gameplay!!
Are people so ignorant that they think the Ubisoft trip is something that doesn't happen often? Is this news to you? No shit "influencers" are given trips and free stuff all the time. It's up to you to discern whether you think that person is so easily bought and sold. Usually, it's streamers and "enthusiasts" who hype up every big game that comes out, not actual reviewers. It takes more than a cursory glance at 4chan to understand that, so a lot of you guys just don't know. But I mean, really...do you not understand any subtlety or nuance whatsoever???
@@jonasking9587 Yes, they are. This shit has going on for years, even seen as normal to a point... Years, it takes years before the general masses seem to catch onto anything and they instantly full swing when it occurs. lol...
yeahhh, other competent players have access and have played sniper for more than 2 levels. They've shown us that it's broken, especially at high levels. For anyone reading I suggest taking his opinion with a singular grain of salt, bc the only thing he's objectively right about is it being weak at LOW levels. Legacy Gaming has gameplay videos of all the classes at high levels on the highest difficulty, the opinions on sniper is the reason they started that small series
Sniper is a good class. You have to play as it. It is one of the best classes which can go stealth every few kills nullifying aggro, allowing disengage and killing powerful enemies in a couple of shots. It has lot of useful utility for the team.
By then I'll probably be way too deep into The War Within to play it at launch, but it definitely excites me more than star wars outlaws that's for sure. I'm also really looking forward to the Black Myth Wukong review, I'm really hyped for that as well.
Sniper is just a class designed for pvp/csm killing. Played the leak a few weeks ago, and the sniper rifles are great against human-sized enemies. They do suck against enemy swarms.
@@Kursor777 When you have 2-3 Beam width increases on Las Fusil, you can take out more enemies in a single shot than almost any weap besides a point blank Melta. =O
@@bencureton What about the SMG / regular sniper then? In every comment you mention how great Las Fusil is, yet what I want to know is if there is any build variety
I don't care if it's a 6 or 7 out of 10. If its overall a great experience then im all for it. We all seem to be missing this kind of game, so as long as its decent, solid, and in certain areas amazing, then were golden.
So I’m a Grandmaster Overwatch Widowmaker and Ashe and Ana ( all scoped ) and HALO Sniper only for ten 20+ years. I was also in a Sniper Platoon in the Marines. I’ve never heard of Warhammer until this week and was sure I’d be the Sniper Class, boasting to all my friends. But I’m also not a jackass and like to win no matter what, so thank you for being HONEST and having BALLS!! 😂
I'm catious, some writer who's way way into her own politics was head writing on this game, and is infamous for using projects to hijack the narrative and preach at the customer. I heard rumors she no longer works on the project, but I can't find any concrete info on it.
Why writers wouldn't have political opinions ? If a writer politics will always be reflected on their writing, if you don't like politics then go play mario, games always had politics
@ni9274 I'm not a fan of being preached at. Keep Irl politics out of games. I don't wanna hear about BLM, LGBTQ, And even right wing shit in a fictional setting. Time and place this writer isn't entitled to shoving her politics into a setting she dosent own.
@@GutsOfRiviaBut the point he’s making is real world politics makes its way into all media including video games. BioShock, Mass Effect, Witcher, RDR2, etc…all games that heavily pull from real world politics/issues using it for their own narrative within the fiction.
@soapboxgames5455 Okay probably more context is needed. This writer is infamous for very HAMFISTED insertion of politics. And I think everyone can agree that they don't want to see that in a game. The type of writing of " here's my take and if you disagree with it you are a bad person". I dunno about you but I don't really want to sit and experince that playing a game no matter what the opinion is.
Another reason they almost certainly want to use B-Roll footage; if someone is very bad at the game, it could make the game itself look very bad. Experienced this in another game I was under an NDA for. That was essentially 1 of the 2 reasons for it.
People act like games have to be 10/10 when 99 percent of games are 4 or 5 out of ten. I say this as a person who loves to game. My point is that video games are not perfect and there are plenty of things that are bad, even in your favorite game.
20:45. reason to use the sniper. You're playing with an assault and bulwark as teammates. Snipe the elites to allow a glory kill from teammates for armor up. Elites have now turned into armor packs instead of another challenge, allowing your teammates to mow down the horde uninterrupted.
You’ll be fine as long as the higher ups know what there doing and stay in their lane. Suicde squad failed because the higher ups got involved and kept pushing multiple angles.
That's the thing about writers, give them something they are actually interested in writing about and they'll give you gold, give them something they don't and they'll give you shit. It's not hard to write a story about Warhammer, unless you're amazon.
@@SekiberiusWelkesh I would argue its not easy to write good 40k story either. You need to know a lot of lore to do that, and then you need to be a good writer too. Like a lot of Black Library books arent really that good. There's just a few good writers, like Abnett, McNeill, Rath
Seeing them accurately depict Thousands sons by not having blood etc etc is fucking sick to me in general, i really thought they were just gonna go lazy mode and put Blood when you attacked them.
I downloaded darktide from gamepass the other day. I've never played a 40k game and going thru the beginning and tutorial I loved it. I couldn't wait to start playing more and then I realized there's no single-player. I like playing mp games but I'm not a co-op guy. There's no taking your time and taking everything in and looking for stuff. It's just run until you see enemies, fight enemies, run to see enemies to fight them some more and repeat. As soon as the last enemy is dead, everybody takes off to be the first one to find new enemies so they can kill them before anybody else. The only way to play co-op is to play with people you know and who play like you. The few people I do know who play games don't play a lot and only play single-player games. I uninstalled the game before even playing 1 mission. I can't wait for this one bc I really like the 40k world or at least from the little I saw of darktide it seems like I will. I wish they would add single-player to darktide. Does anybody know if there is any 40k game like darktide that is single-player?
The closest thing to Darktide is Space Hulk: Deathwatch. Its the same horde but as a singleplayer campaign where you an customize your own space marine and 2 additional NPC marines that can have their loadouts changed to help you. It may be multiplayer. The feel and atmosphere is on point, the story isnt super amazing, but it exposes you to another part of 40k lore which are Space Hulks, also the original name of the board game.
no, the other ones would be vermintide (1 and 2) but they are the same as Darktide, but there is Space Marine 1, so you can enjoy singleplayer story that way and help you catch up for this one
The game called Boltgun is a singleplayer 40k boomer shooter you might like, tons of enemies on screen like Darktide at times. Very highly rated on steam.
LUKE IS DELETING COMMENTS-- Everyone go watch the Asmongold video about Ubisoft bribing content creators! Luke CANNOT be trusted anymore and if you go read Luke's comments in his Star Wars Outlaws video it will show HUNDREDS of comments of people who dont trust him anymore. LUKE if you are reading this and deleting this (like you deleted my last comment), YOU ARE NOT THE SAME. YOU HAVE LOST FAITH IN ME AND HUNDREDS (IF NOT THOUSANDS) OF OTHER SUPPORTERS WHO USED TO LIKE YOU B/C YOU WERE ONCE A "SKEPTIC". Remember???? You let GREED get in the way of telling the truth and what brought you success in the first place. You know it's true. The proof is out there now and you cant hide it. If I were you, I would make a video IMMEDIATELY and address everything.
Sniper class is probably being proactively balanced around PvP multiplayer but it's really there to be a supporting class that is effective at dealing a lot of damage to bosses and elite enemies like tyranid warriors or zoanthropes. But running 3-4 snipers in a squad is probably a bad idea.
The fact that they let luke freely talk about bugs like that shows you that they have confidence in their own product. And many of those bugs from the sound of it will probably be fixed by graphics card driver update when the game releases.
One thing that is kinda weird for me from a lore persepective is chaos being here, and Thousand sons of all things. Don't tyranids have a pretty good time against demons and have a shadow in the warp? Like I swear I've heard stories where a planet is attacked by chaos, chaos retreats, planet celebrates and its actually because the tyranids are here. I guess old habits die hard. If its a warhammer 40k game and the main enemy isn't chaos, them chaos will still show up. Honestly would have been cool if it was Dark eldar for once.
“Look at all this free shit my creator privilege got me!” I realize I’m being petty, but fuck man… Childish Gambino: “You get your clothes for free when you’re rich, ain’t it funny?”
i mean we benefit because we actually get to see gameplay ahead of time from people we trust. its not just a generic preview review from IGN. its a hands-on experience of the game from the perspective of people we watch
A lot of people are against the sniper. Its very good. Hang back and drill elites. It'll be a huge deal in PvP, but sniper doesn't need a buff. Lean into the playstyle intended for sniper, especially with perks.
I'm definitely keeping an eye on this. My buddies and I are always on the lookout for more co-op horde type games. Does anyone know just how melee-focused it is? I absolutely love Vermintide 2, and it's been difficult to find anything that has the same emphasis on melee, Darktide isn't quite the same for me.
An easy fix for the sniper would be to make it that head shot kills restores a small amount heath or shields, If it doesn't already they should make it so that sniper rounds can penetrate multiple enemies.
sniper rounds already over penetrate trash mobs, one of the potentially best trash clearer in the game currently even is a las fusil sniper build using the "killing more than 1 enemy with one shot from a las fusil restores its charge by 1" perk turns it into a infinite ammo and penetration setup against smaller targets and hordes, the class starts out slower than others but at the same time will most likely be one of the stronger classes at endgame pve missions another example good example being the first signature perk you can unlock being "upon perfect dodge, activate cloak for 5 seconds without expending ability charge, can activate every 15 seconds" meaning idealy you will basicly never be overrun because of aggro dumping allies and having insane clutch potential with invis spam from other talents as well tl:dr sniper gets better the higher level it is, even more so than other classes
LUKE IS DELETING COMMENTS-- Everyone go watch the Asmongold video about Ubisoft bribing content creators! Luke CANNOT be trusted anymore and if you go read Luke's comments in his Star Wars Outlaws video it will show HUNDREDS of comments of people who dont trust him anymore. LUKE if you are reading this and deleting this (like you deleted my last comment), YOU ARE NOT THE SAME. YOU HAVE LOST FAITH IN ME AND HUNDREDS (IF NOT THOUSANDS) OF OTHER SUPPORTERS WHO USED TO LIKE YOU B/C YOU WERE ONCE A "SKEPTIC". Remember???? You let GREED get in the way of telling the truth and what brought you success in the first place. You know it's true. The proof is out there now and you cant hide it. If I were you, I would make a video IMMEDIATELY and address everything.
I'm pretty sure that was a first impressions, not a full review. Not a fan of ubisoft, but I don't understand your reasoning. Have you played outlaws yourself?
So you don’t think gameranx is credible either. Or 95% of the people who played the game. Thinking someone who daily uploads and makes at least 2 grand per video got bribed by a Disney land trip is wild.
Sniper is absolutely NOT terrible I wish content creators would stop saying that and try to actually use it right. Ive seen a few vids now of sniper doing amazing, and even still pretty good at lvl 3, meanwhile the guy i saw complaining wasnt even going for headhsots lol
Have a video on my other monitor called "Space Marine 2 - Sniper Class Is Insane!" ready to be played so I'm a bit surprised hearing it be called the weakest in this one. It's going to be fun to see what the difference in viewpoints are.
i dont know if this is even valid but my crititiscm without even playing it, is i wish they had more enemy variety, i want to fight, orks, tyranids, necrons, chaos space marines, demons, genestealers, dark elves, tau etc not just tyranids with a tiny amount of thousand sons
I have to imagine that the Sniper was made more for PvP in mind, it makes much more sense in that context and they likely felt that cutting it from PvE was...weird or unnecessary. Edit: Apparently according to others the Sniper is I quote "busted" and "Godlike" at higher levels so maybe its a late bloomer in terms of classes.
18:40 regarding Las Fusil prononciation. Fusil is a French word that means Riffle. The "L" is silent and lead to variant of the word as many silent letters at the end of words in the french language, like Fusiller, Fusillade or Fusillier, from the same vocabulary family. The pronounciation goes like " fu-zee". "Fu" doesn't sounds "foo" but the french prononciation is a solid U sound, witch doesn't really exist in the english language. Also don't really know why they gave it this name, as Fusil in french just refer to a general riffle, and not particulary to a precision riffle or sniper. Maybe a 40k lore detail ?
space marines 2 please save me from arrowhead theyre the only competition town and they keep nerfing and breaking the game. gawd i cant wait for this to come out
I'm interested to see what eternal war actually is. Like is it a singular type of game mode or various ones in rotation. Does anybody have any info on this?
This looks like what we wanted Anthem to be. This is what I'm looking for from my Warhammer games - 1st/3rd person looter-shooters set in 40k. I'm waiting for a game like Dark Tide, but more open-world/level with a wider range (different armies) of PCs.
It’s just a little weird how confidently wrong he is about sniper. Even putting that bit at the end about it being useless and asking the devs to fix it. Overall a fine video but it’s specifically takes like that, that lead to devs misfiring and over buffing/nerfing things that don’t need it. Almost every point made about sniper was factually incorrect. And it’s just odd. Like I’m not sure how that happened. Because it’s not that hard to see its value or its strengths. You claimed to have tried everything to make it work but I struggle to believe anything was tried at all. A single headshot using the las fusil would have shown you the “low damage” wasn’t true. And canceling cloak early to conserve the remaining time as it clearly intends for you would have shown you it doesn’t “take too long to come back”. But hey if you want a buff to strongest class in the game let’s have it.
Sniper class could possibly be really good in pvp. You can cloak, and i think theres perks that increase your first attack after camo, so you could barrel snuff them with highfire power sniper and finish off woth melee. Just brainstorming here
In a game where you square off against thousands of units on screen at one time, a sniper would not be a viable class at all. I bet they could retool it into something closer to a grenadier that uses long range explosives, though. But, is that role handled already by another class like heavy?
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Hey Luke. So about that sniper class take. Yeah, umm, it's called levelling up. Just cause the class is slower at the start doesn't mean it isn't a beast later on. Already seen max difficulty play with the Sniper class and it's a BEAST. Bad take all around.
So multiplayer is like ME3.
My armor is contempt
My shield is disgust
My sword is hatred
In the Emperor's name, no Thousand Sons shall survive.
I have this quote painted on my car (minus the last sentence)
FOR THE GLORY OF ULTRAMAR IT SHALL BE DONE
@@warchiefzeke2035holy cringe
@@tyleramell3371 what? Why?
In Boltgun, the armor is literally contempt
“I love Warhammer! I’m a giga-nerd! I suffer from Warhammer-itis”
“I am not one to become fixated on things like this”
Makes sense
Dude warhammer is just a helldiver clone chill 💀
@@Bgh583no way u said that😂😂😂
@@raulrahaman9863 I did because it is
@@Bgh583 bro do some research and check which franchise came out first
Old school 360 game you say? SIGN ME UP!!
Same, we usually don’t get game like that no more
All I need to hear. 360/PS3 era of gaming was peak for me.
@@ColaBeastMonster literally started playing WaW and black ops zombies this weekend. making me miss the old days
“Old school” 😭
@@kronima6239 it is, now; like it or not
As someone with 60 hours in the current build and a maxed Sniper (Level 25), it is literally one of the strongest classes in the game (in fact, if it wasn't for Tactical getting full Melta ammo on Major Execution, Sniper would be unarguably the best). There is no other class that can take out entire groups of Major's without ever initiating combat (you can go invis, then stay invis for 2s post "invis break"). You just need the perks. The first few perks aren't very memorable, but they ramp up very quickly.
Las Fusil with wide beam, and "gain +1 ammo when killing more than 1 enemy with a single shot" means you have insane add clear and infinite ammo. 75% bonus damage when coming out of Camo, and auto Camo on Perfect Dodge... GG.
The sniper in this video is level 3.
Sniper does not need a buff. It's crazy... crazy strong.
I don't think our boy is too experienced in build making in games. Nothing against him but certain games teach you stat and skill building like monster hunter and souls games. If you don't play those games hard-core it isn't apparent to you what potential some plastyles may have
@@10XSeiga It's all good. They have a slow start. =)
How are you playing?
@@wav3zeq Helping Legacy Gaming team capture footage.
@@bencuretonhow’s the bulwark? Good tank? Nobody shows the perks
1:12 Luuuuke, you are not supposed to put your Pile Of Shame into glass cabinet everyone to see 😄
shut up! How dare you.
atleast they're built ^_^
This game reminds me so much of the Cybertron games with fun Campaign, Coop, and PvP without all the extra monetization.
WFC/FOC mentioned
Based.
@@mostlyjovial6177 Wish they were on steam man I loved both of the cybertron games
@@mostlyjovial6177agreed
Such a fun series!
Its just not me then. It really remind me cybertron games as well
IMO the heavy class NEEDS a melee weapon, at least a combat knife. Close quarters combat is absolutely guaranteed with the tyranids, let the big boys swing.
It's weird that they went the Heavy Intercessor/ Eradicator load out and not the Aggressor loadouts so that you may cast fists
Or let them use their heavy weapons themselves as their melee option. It would be cool, thematic, and make them very different from the other class' melee options.
Heavy needs to upgrade to terminator
In the first game the heavy class had a powerful stomp as melee. It could one shot the jumppack class in MP. Loved that class in MP
@@Johannicus Heavy has a stomp in this game as well, and he also swings his primary weapon as a melee strike. I'm just hoping it deals sufficient damage.
Just to drive that last point home about the "generosity" of Games Workshop a single box of Space Marine miniatures containing 3 to 10 plastic models will cost you more than this game. That's not an exaggeration.
I love the lore and the video games so much, but this right here is why I could never actually get into the miniatures. Well, that and my horrific painting ability 😅
where on earth do you live, this game is 2+ boxes in the UK
@mangohub3252 I live in Canada and i bought the gold edition of sm2, and that would be about 2 boxes of Intercessors with my local game store 20% off
'I'm not going to spoil the boss fight' immediately tells fans what it is...
There is a HUGE difference between TELLING and SHOWING, bud
Dont watch early access and whinge about any spoilers lmao
There’s a reason sniper starts off weak. Only class that can be used long range without being hit. Let the boys up front eat while your staggering them for free executions sniper class is gonna break the game watch lol
Boss of the first mission: Something related to warping, some "discs", Tzeentch relation.
So we have something that warps / has to do with warping, perhaps warping perception. Maybe a character that is able to warp our very own perception.
Money throughout history has had a close relation to discs. Paper / fabric currency has only relatively recently been in circulation, as many of the developed nations have been using coinage for much longer. These coins saw much use by merchants, and those merchants very often belonged to individual guilds. These merchant guilds often would bankroll the careers of many creative types, and for that we often give a warm thanks to their many members.
Finally, there's a relation to Tzeentch. The boss is SsethTzeentach.
Hey, hey people, your death's here.
Did the devs pay for a ticket to Disneyworld this time too?
He went to Universal Studios this time.😂
Lmao. Year supply of cleaning supplies. After being shit on after his star wars sponsored video.
Fatshark gave him an all expense paid trip to Sweden to try their Swedish-made Meatballs.
He didn’t go to Disneyworld for outlaws. He played at home.
@@ApsmneShsbshu wrong, it's even in his video, Ubisoft flew him and his editor out. So stop spreading lies.
Man could not be more wrong about the Sniper based on other videos out there. Then again, all his menus show characters barely above level 2 lol.
Indeed. Sniper is god tier in this game.
Yes,he rubbing off as a sellout now with his BEST BUY HAVING GOOD PRICES
@@JustxLiving909shut up
Hed just tell it fanboy: without the buffs is a shitty class and its TRUE
This might be my first warhammer game.
7/10 is 100% acceptable.. the 10s are very very few and far between. Im def buying it.. n prob even a sp edition.
Went on record almost a year ago saying I don’t need it to be 10/10, 7-8/10 and able to play coop with my buddies and I would buy it.
Luke, you got to tell us about Disney, respectfully. Did you build a lightsaber?!!
did something leak? like why is everyone hating on the dude all of sudden?
@@petardrn Ubisoft offered a trip for content creators to disneyland in exchange for promoting their woke garbage Star wars outlaws
@@xFaytalx he was very open about the video being sponsored and he didnt say anything he wasnt already saying about the game.
Tbf, you wouldn’t take it? I feel like as long as he keeps his integrity within the review itself, the “bribes” are null. It shouldn’t have been done to begin with from Ubisoft, but still, it’s up to him to put out a non bias review.
@@xFaytalxyeah but he made a video about this. That wasn't a secret
Luke: switches to new camera angel
Me: AHH. go back go back!!
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I’m not sure I trust you. Gonna wait to see what others say.
Why even comment then?
I'd recommend doing that. It's always better to take multiple opinions on things especially regarding video games these days.
The best way is just to see the gameplay video without commentary and determine your opinion on it without bias
The good part about the 4 day early access for whales is that it gives me time to cancel my preorder if the game shits the bed somehow.
Not knowing anything about warhammer beforehand, when i saw the gameplay trailer i thought it was weird there was even a sniper class. It didnt seem like sniping would be an effective way to deal with the hordes you face in game.
Against stronger single target units the sniper is invaluable lore wise. But they rarely use them in the lore as well so there’s that.
It's a foreshadowing, because layer on you will face off against other Space Marine so having a sniper is handy.
the sniper rilfes need better damage.
And a better back up than the bolt pistol.
... maybe a rapidfire one. or two that have autofire (you just hold down the trigger instead of having to spam it)
It will almost certainly be invaluable in the PvE missions, allowing your teammates to focus on horde-clearing weapons instead of needing a mixed loadout, then you can safely pick off things like warriors or zoanthropes that might threaten or distract them.
They have perks on Las Fusil that increase the width of shot... and a perk that grants +1 ammo when you kill more than 1 enemy with a single shot. You can kill 10-15 enemies in a single shot during horde sequences, and retain basically infinite ammo.
My bet is that the Sniper class is only there for the PvP mode.
Should still be redone so that it's fun in PvE too
It doesn't need to be redone. The player needs to get their Sniper above level 3. It's CRAZY strong and crazy fun.
@@bencuretondid you play the game?
@@stateofmortality1908 Yes. About 65 hours as of this post. I helped the Legacy Gaming guys capture footage (I have a Maxed Sniper - Level 25, among other classes all near 20).
@bencureton can you post some gameplay of your sniper?
This may not matter to some but it is nice to see A Black character that isn’t used poorly or overdone story wise
So tired of my race being used a bargaining chip in games
Games look Beautiful and Gritty
Long as we get past the horrible kilmonger hairstyle
We've learned a lot the past days about amenities and agreements between publishers and content creators.
@George-um2vc even though he was clear about the entire thing?
@George-um2vc you're acting like he wasn't so I just assumed like what you're doing rn
Small detail but I love that the colors in the game are the actual paints from Citadel sitting in my art cubby lol
It’s the thing I instantly noticed! I wish they’d add that to Total War as well
The game definitely needs more real-life politics. How do I even know who my space marine is voting for? I wish these devs would focus on making content for "modern audiences" instead of focusing on gameplay!!
Please stop yapping
Encountering another Critical Drinker viewer in the wild is always a good time
I know this is sarcasm and i love it
@@Hostilehippie13 *MODERN AUDIENCES*
I hope you weren't taken to Disneyland this time.
What difference would it make?
Are people so ignorant that they think the Ubisoft trip is something that doesn't happen often? Is this news to you?
No shit "influencers" are given trips and free stuff all the time. It's up to you to discern whether you think that person is so easily bought and sold. Usually, it's streamers and "enthusiasts" who hype up every big game that comes out, not actual reviewers. It takes more than a cursory glance at 4chan to understand that, so a lot of you guys just don't know.
But I mean, really...do you not understand any subtlety or nuance whatsoever???
He didn’t go to L.A for outlaws. He played at home.
@@jonasking9587 Yes, they are. This shit has going on for years, even seen as normal to a point... Years, it takes years before the general masses seem to catch onto anything and they instantly full swing when it occurs. lol...
@@merccc1 They all pray for Gamergate 2.0, and it's pathetic.
yeahhh, other competent players have access and have played sniper for more than 2 levels. They've shown us that it's broken, especially at high levels.
For anyone reading I suggest taking his opinion with a singular grain of salt, bc the only thing he's objectively right about is it being weak at LOW levels.
Legacy Gaming has gameplay videos of all the classes at high levels on the highest difficulty, the opinions on sniper is the reason they started that small series
Sniper is a good class. You have to play as it. It is one of the best classes which can go stealth every few kills nullifying aggro, allowing disengage and killing powerful enemies in a couple of shots. It has lot of useful utility for the team.
WTF... This channel is the house of sponserships.
Right with him saying Best Buy has good prices LMFAO
I dont know why they picked the sniper when an apothecary sounds like a far more useful class
I think the sniper class would be a lot better in multiplayer to escape
By then I'll probably be way too deep into The War Within to play it at launch, but it definitely excites me more than star wars outlaws that's for sure. I'm also really looking forward to the Black Myth Wukong review, I'm really hyped for that as well.
Aren’t you supposed to be running an entire country? How do you have the time to ply video games?
The snipers are for the 4 raven gaurds left in the galaxy
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Sniper class needs extreme weakpoint damage to bosses or it's not viable.
All their perks + 75% bonus dmg when breaking camo, then auto camo on perfect dodge... they deal insane damage.
Sniper is just a class designed for pvp/csm killing. Played the leak a few weeks ago, and the sniper rifles are great against human-sized enemies. They do suck against enemy swarms.
@@Kursor777 When you have 2-3 Beam width increases on Las Fusil, you can take out more enemies in a single shot than almost any weap besides a point blank Melta. =O
Skill issue
@@bencureton What about the SMG / regular sniper then? In every comment you mention how great Las Fusil is, yet what I want to know is if there is any build variety
I don't care if it's a 6 or 7 out of 10. If its overall a great experience then im all for it. We all seem to be missing this kind of game, so as long as its decent, solid, and in certain areas amazing, then were golden.
If Thousand Sons are in it, I hope we get to see Daemon Primarch Magnus, even if we dont get to fight him.
As a DG player, hoping for Morty; Magnus would be very cool too tho (2nd favourite CSM legion)
So I’m a Grandmaster Overwatch Widowmaker and Ashe and Ana ( all scoped ) and HALO Sniper only for ten 20+ years. I was also in a Sniper Platoon in the Marines. I’ve never heard of Warhammer until this week and was sure I’d be the Sniper Class, boasting to all my friends. But I’m also not a jackass and like to win no matter what, so thank you for being HONEST and having BALLS!! 😂
Sniper is one of the best classes if not the best. Look up a video from crazymrpipz
I'm catious, some writer who's way way into her own politics was head writing on this game, and is infamous for using projects to hijack the narrative and preach at the customer. I heard rumors she no longer works on the project, but I can't find any concrete info on it.
Why writers wouldn't have political opinions ? If a writer politics will always be reflected on their writing, if you don't like politics then go play mario, games always had politics
@ni9274 I'm not a fan of being preached at. Keep Irl politics out of games. I don't wanna hear about BLM, LGBTQ, And even right wing shit in a fictional setting. Time and place this writer isn't entitled to shoving her politics into a setting she dosent own.
@@GutsOfRiviaBut the point he’s making is real world politics makes its way into all media including video games. BioShock, Mass Effect, Witcher, RDR2, etc…all games that heavily pull from real world politics/issues using it for their own narrative within the fiction.
@soapboxgames5455 Okay probably more context is needed. This writer is infamous for very HAMFISTED insertion of politics. And I think everyone can agree that they don't want to see that in a game. The type of writing of " here's my take and if you disagree with it you are a bad person". I dunno about you but I don't really want to sit and experince that playing a game no matter what the opinion is.
I hate to break it to you but Warhammer 40000 is a very political franchise. Whinge more.
You should show us your full Warhammer collection in a video
Another reason they almost certainly want to use B-Roll footage; if someone is very bad at the game, it could make the game itself look very bad. Experienced this in another game I was under an NDA for. That was essentially 1 of the 2 reasons for it.
The tinnitus bug is just hyper realism. Dude lost his hearing after that explosion
Sniper class should be like Imperial Guard, fast moving stealthy glass cannon.
People act like games have to be 10/10 when 99 percent of games are 4 or 5 out of ten. I say this as a person who loves to game. My point is that video games are not perfect and there are plenty of things that are bad, even in your favorite game.
The problem is that most people do not want to spend $60-70 on a 5-6/10
Not mentioning the Eldar in the display was the right move 😂
20:45. reason to use the sniper. You're playing with an assault and bulwark as teammates. Snipe the elites to allow a glory kill from teammates for armor up. Elites have now turned into armor packs instead of another challenge, allowing your teammates to mow down the horde uninterrupted.
I'm fine with B-roll footage, let me experience something's the first time my way.
having a 40k fan and a thousand sons fan make a video like this gets me all giddy inside.
I'll stick with the First Descendant, this feels like Darktide all over again. Not a bad game but not something I'll play longer than a week or two.
Nowadays a title playing like x360 era game sounds like something better than 90% of the stuff we get in recent years
I’m worried for the game, because I heard that the person who wrote the story for kill the justice league, wrote the story for space marine.😳
You’ll be fine as long as the higher ups know what there doing and stay in their lane. Suicde squad failed because the higher ups got involved and kept pushing multiple angles.
That's the thing about writers, give them something they are actually interested in writing about and they'll give you gold, give them something they don't and they'll give you shit.
It's not hard to write a story about Warhammer, unless you're amazon.
I dont know how this misinformation because so wide spread, but writer was fired nearly a year ago and was replaced
@@SekiberiusWelkesh I would argue its not easy to write good 40k story either. You need to know a lot of lore to do that, and then you need to be a good writer too. Like a lot of Black Library books arent really that good. There's just a few good writers, like Abnett, McNeill, Rath
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Seeing them accurately depict Thousands sons by not having blood etc etc is fucking sick to me in general, i really thought they were just gonna go lazy mode and put Blood when you attacked them.
I downloaded darktide from gamepass the other day. I've never played a 40k game and going thru the beginning and tutorial I loved it. I couldn't wait to start playing more and then I realized there's no single-player. I like playing mp games but I'm not a co-op guy. There's no taking your time and taking everything in and looking for stuff. It's just run until you see enemies, fight enemies, run to see enemies to fight them some more and repeat. As soon as the last enemy is dead, everybody takes off to be the first one to find new enemies so they can kill them before anybody else. The only way to play co-op is to play with people you know and who play like you. The few people I do know who play games don't play a lot and only play single-player games. I uninstalled the game before even playing 1 mission. I can't wait for this one bc I really like the 40k world or at least from the little I saw of darktide it seems like I will. I wish they would add single-player to darktide. Does anybody know if there is any 40k game like darktide that is single-player?
No recent 40k games I’m afraid
The closest thing to Darktide is Space Hulk: Deathwatch. Its the same horde but as a singleplayer campaign where you an customize your own space marine and 2 additional NPC marines that can have their loadouts changed to help you. It may be multiplayer. The feel and atmosphere is on point, the story isnt super amazing, but it exposes you to another part of 40k lore which are Space Hulks, also the original name of the board game.
no, the other ones would be vermintide (1 and 2) but they are the same as Darktide, but there is Space Marine 1, so you can enjoy singleplayer story that way and help you catch up for this one
The game called Boltgun is a singleplayer 40k boomer shooter you might like, tons of enemies on screen like Darktide at times. Very highly rated on steam.
Devs are hard bribing creators these days 😂 did you get to go to Disney this time too.
LUKE IS DELETING COMMENTS-- Everyone go watch the Asmongold video about Ubisoft bribing content creators! Luke CANNOT be trusted anymore and if you go read Luke's comments in his Star Wars Outlaws video it will show HUNDREDS of comments of people who dont trust him anymore. LUKE if you are reading this and deleting this (like you deleted my last comment), YOU ARE NOT THE SAME. YOU HAVE LOST FAITH IN ME AND HUNDREDS (IF NOT THOUSANDS) OF OTHER SUPPORTERS WHO USED TO LIKE YOU B/C YOU WERE ONCE A "SKEPTIC". Remember???? You let GREED get in the way of telling the truth and what brought you success in the first place. You know it's true. The proof is out there now and you cant hide it. If I were you, I would make a video IMMEDIATELY and address everything.
Sniper class is probably being proactively balanced around PvP multiplayer but it's really there to be a supporting class that is effective at dealing a lot of damage to bosses and elite enemies like tyranid warriors or zoanthropes. But running 3-4 snipers in a squad is probably a bad idea.
The fact that they let luke freely talk about bugs like that shows you that they have confidence in their own product. And many of those bugs from the sound of it will probably be fixed by graphics card driver update when the game releases.
They said NO MICROTRANSACTIONS will be in this game. Only for cosmetics, nothing related to how you play the game
So there's microstransactions in this game like every other game that comes out.
Those are still microtransactions
these games need constant support from the devs it would be cool if they add new maps enemiesl and dlcs after a while if the game succeeds
the sniper class wen you get the perks is laughably op you can almost solo at higher difficulty's
You can buy a kit to add double the shelves to those glass cases. no need to waste so much space right.
"AAA or AAAA masterpieces"? What planet are you on?
@@Paul_Hardy Holy Terra.
Infelizmente nesse mesmo planeta que tu mora, fião
One thing that is kinda weird for me from a lore persepective is chaos being here, and Thousand sons of all things.
Don't tyranids have a pretty good time against demons and have a shadow in the warp? Like I swear I've heard stories where a planet is attacked by chaos, chaos retreats, planet celebrates and its actually because the tyranids are here.
I guess old habits die hard. If its a warhammer 40k game and the main enemy isn't chaos, them chaos will still show up. Honestly would have been cool if it was Dark eldar for once.
Having a game that brings back the old gears of war vibe/gameplay loop is all I needed to hear. I can sink hundreds of hours into something like this
“Look at all this free shit my creator privilege got me!”
I realize I’m being petty, but fuck man…
Childish Gambino: “You get your clothes for free when you’re rich, ain’t it funny?”
He worked hard to become a popular enough streamer to even get swag. Envy does you no good.
i mean we benefit because we actually get to see gameplay ahead of time from people we trust. its not just a generic preview review from IGN. its a hands-on experience of the game from the perspective of people we watch
Grow up
make the sniper great, my friends want to live out Eliminator dreams. Make them boss killers.
the sniper could be interesting in versus mode
Dude. You have the most coziest/nerdiest office and I'm jealous 😍
I'm sad TotalBiscuit isn't here to experience this game, he loved the hell out of the first game.
Think this looks like the just good old fashioned fun type of game I’m looking for these days. I’m not preordering (I’m not insane) but I’m into it.
A lot of people are against the sniper. Its very good. Hang back and drill elites. It'll be a huge deal in PvP, but sniper doesn't need a buff. Lean into the playstyle intended for sniper, especially with perks.
Tzeentch mutatating the environment is the coolest thing ive seen so far
I'm definitely keeping an eye on this. My buddies and I are always on the lookout for more co-op horde type games.
Does anyone know just how melee-focused it is? I absolutely love Vermintide 2, and it's been difficult to find anything that has the same emphasis on melee, Darktide isn't quite the same for me.
Depends on the class, there's combo's finishers stuns perfect parries and dodges
An easy fix for the sniper would be to make it that head shot kills restores a small amount heath or shields, If it doesn't already they should make it so that sniper rounds can penetrate multiple enemies.
sniper rounds already over penetrate trash mobs, one of the potentially best trash clearer in the game currently even is a las fusil sniper build
using the "killing more than 1 enemy with one shot from a las fusil restores its charge by 1" perk turns it into a infinite ammo and penetration setup against smaller targets and hordes, the class starts out slower than others but at the same time will most likely be one of the stronger classes at endgame pve missions
another example good example being the first signature perk you can unlock being "upon perfect dodge, activate cloak for 5 seconds without expending ability charge, can activate every 15 seconds" meaning idealy you will basicly never be overrun because of aggro dumping allies and having insane clutch potential with invis spam from other talents as well
tl:dr sniper gets better the higher level it is, even more so than other classes
Other content creators seemed to show their gameplay. Odd
Looking forward to modding this so I can play as a Black Templar and not a gd ultramarine for the 10th time.
There better be more than six armor sets in the base game. If this is how it is at launch then thats a little disappointing.
Nothing you say is credible after that horrendous Star Wars outlaws review
LUKE IS DELETING COMMENTS-- Everyone go watch the Asmongold video about Ubisoft bribing content creators! Luke CANNOT be trusted anymore and if you go read Luke's comments in his Star Wars Outlaws video it will show HUNDREDS of comments of people who dont trust him anymore. LUKE if you are reading this and deleting this (like you deleted my last comment), YOU ARE NOT THE SAME. YOU HAVE LOST FAITH IN ME AND HUNDREDS (IF NOT THOUSANDS) OF OTHER SUPPORTERS WHO USED TO LIKE YOU B/C YOU WERE ONCE A "SKEPTIC". Remember???? You let GREED get in the way of telling the truth and what brought you success in the first place. You know it's true. The proof is out there now and you cant hide it. If I were you, I would make a video IMMEDIATELY and address everything.
I'm pretty sure that was a first impressions, not a full review. Not a fan of ubisoft, but I don't understand your reasoning. Have you played outlaws yourself?
So you don’t think gameranx is credible either. Or 95% of the people who played the game. Thinking someone who daily uploads and makes at least 2 grand per video got bribed by a Disney land trip is wild.
@@morganrollins2036 Why would he do that? It is just better to follow the hate mob online right?
@@PhantomGardener lol must be, it's so popular now.
5:57 OMG 😬 Demon Prince Magnus? Ahriman? 😳
Dartide changed a litle. Now the same map can be different with some path open or closed. It feel less repetitive.
8:15 'He'd still have the helmet off' right when Titus tore the head a of a Choas marine. That was intentional
❓ Singleplayer campaign is fully multiplayer compatible with friends... right??? ❓
Idk if you had this answered somewhere else, but I believe so.
It’s not exactly “singleplayer” then, is it?
i was always curious where magnus had gone after seeing him on the back shelf in that one video awhile back.
Sniper is absolutely NOT terrible I wish content creators would stop saying that and try to actually use it right. Ive seen a few vids now of sniper doing amazing, and even still pretty good at lvl 3, meanwhile the guy i saw complaining wasnt even going for headhsots lol
Have a video on my other monitor called "Space Marine 2 - Sniper Class Is Insane!" ready to be played so I'm a bit surprised hearing it be called the weakest in this one. It's going to be fun to see what the difference in viewpoints are.
The boltgun in Dark Tide can one tap an elite, at the expense of recoil and reload. Not sure why the sniper class isn't similar.
I'm not sure if this has been suggested, They could swap put the sniper class for an Apothecary to serve as a medic type of class.
Boost the damage to sniper rifles, add lightning claws as class specific melee, rename to Ravenguard class. Problem solved
The sniper is a slow start but not terrible. Plenty of vids out there of people popping elites with head shots while assaults and bulwarks execute
Fusil is a name for an old type of flintlock musket I think
i dont know if this is even valid but my crititiscm without even playing it, is i wish they had more enemy variety, i want to fight, orks, tyranids, necrons, chaos space marines, demons, genestealers, dark elves, tau etc not just tyranids with a tiny amount of thousand sons
Might as well wish for the second coming of Christ while you're at it.
I have to imagine that the Sniper was made more for PvP in mind, it makes much more sense in that context and they likely felt that cutting it from PvE was...weird or unnecessary.
Edit: Apparently according to others the Sniper is I quote "busted" and "Godlike" at higher levels so maybe its a late bloomer in terms of classes.
18:40 regarding Las Fusil prononciation.
Fusil is a French word that means Riffle.
The "L" is silent and lead to variant of the word as many silent letters at the end of words in the french language, like Fusiller, Fusillade or Fusillier, from the same vocabulary family.
The pronounciation goes like " fu-zee".
"Fu" doesn't sounds "foo" but the french prononciation is a solid U sound, witch doesn't really exist in the english language.
Also don't really know why they gave it this name, as Fusil in french just refer to a general riffle, and not particulary to a precision riffle or sniper. Maybe a 40k lore detail ?
space marines 2 please save me from arrowhead theyre the only competition town and they keep nerfing and breaking the game. gawd i cant wait for this to come out
I'm interested to see what eternal war actually is. Like is it a singular type of game mode or various ones in rotation. Does anybody have any info on this?
Sniper will be better when guns and class skills are leveled up and built with a specific build in mind
This looks like what we wanted Anthem to be. This is what I'm looking for from my Warhammer games - 1st/3rd person looter-shooters set in 40k. I'm waiting for a game like Dark Tide, but more open-world/level with a wider range (different armies) of PCs.
It’s just a little weird how confidently wrong he is about sniper. Even putting that bit at the end about it being useless and asking the devs to fix it. Overall a fine video but it’s specifically takes like that, that lead to devs misfiring and over buffing/nerfing things that don’t need it. Almost every point made about sniper was factually incorrect. And it’s just odd. Like I’m not sure how that happened. Because it’s not that hard to see its value or its strengths. You claimed to have tried everything to make it work but I struggle to believe anything was tried at all. A single headshot using the las fusil would have shown you the “low damage” wasn’t true. And canceling cloak early to conserve the remaining time as it clearly intends for you would have shown you it doesn’t “take too long to come back”. But hey if you want a buff to strongest class in the game let’s have it.
Sniper class could possibly be really good in pvp. You can cloak, and i think theres perks that increase your first attack after camo, so you could barrel snuff them with highfire power sniper and finish off woth melee. Just brainstorming here
there are indeed seperate perks for melee (+100%) and ranged (+75%) breaking the camo
I just want to play as a Tzeentch character. I want to play as a bad guy, and I hope that that is in the game.
In a game where you square off against thousands of units on screen at one time, a sniper would not be a viable class at all. I bet they could retool it into something closer to a grenadier that uses long range explosives, though. But, is that role handled already by another class like heavy?
7:06 Take note Ubisoft, showcase the game WELL INTO THE CAMPAIGN