Hello Do you want to do more videos about the 700W at our RM wraps shop in Meridian Idaho. :) We are learning more about the White inks. There's a lot to learn.
Hello, im trying to get white and a color to print at the same time. I can get white and i can get color, just not at the same time. Im just trying to print one colored dot surrounded by several white dots. This is being printed on a clear substrate that will be applied to glass second surface. And we dont want sandwich mode with color white color, just individual color and white. Please help.
If you want white and color to print at the same time - and there's no overlap between white and color - then Spot mode is what you need. Have you tried that and you're having issues? PS second surface so don't forget to reflect your image!
im using onyx and ive tried spot mode, but when we do it, it prints the white circles and floods white over the top of the colored circle@@LeeManevitch
Are you also adding white in Onyx? It's either/or - if you create white in Onyx you can't use your designed white, and vice-versa. From your description, you need to design the white outside of Onyx and then don't do anything in Onyx to create white. If you want to send me your file, email it to youtube@manevitch.com and I'll send back a quick video of how it all *should* work.
Hi Lee, Im having some difficulty using this print mode. Im using underflood to prints some white lettering and a white background section with color on top. But, my white is printing like is offset. like there's 2 layers of and they don't line up. Could you offer any advice? Mess with smart choke?
What "this" print mode are you talking about? In general yes - Smart Choke MUST be turned on because the diameter of the white ink drops is slightly larger than that of the colors...so even if registration is perfect, there will be white ink peeking out. Start with 4px and adjust from there. If it's misaligned by a lot, though, that's a head alignment issue.
hi where can i get the test print files from. trying to create an effect like the dandelion photo you showed, but need to get the source file to understand the setup procedure
Spot prints white and color at the same time, and that's not negotiable. So if you print both in the same place they will mix. The reason the other modes exist is specifically so there is separation between white and color - both in terms of time (drying) and also by dropping additional Optimizer between layers. If those modes weren't necessary to create, I promise the development team wouldn't have spent as much time as they did making them work. 😄
@@LeeManevitch thanks, I’m currently using underfloor white at 100% and the 700w is slow. I’m just trying to figure out how to get faster print speeds with out compromising the opacity of the white. Do you have any tips?
White density in any print mode is controlled by the number of passes, so unless you can get by with lower density (which you can't in this case) there aren't any additional "knobs" you can change to make the printer move faster than it does. About the only advice I *could* give is that if you're not maximizing your carriage (printing 36" media, for example) or maximizing your layout efficiency, then you can see gains that way. Max throughput on the 700W in Underflood at 100% white density is 32 square feet per hour, and that assumes a full-width roll with full-width graphics. If your workflow and job specifics allow you to change to Overflood (white over color) then you'd see that throughput change to 65 sqft/hr but if you're printing on nontransparent media then that's a no-go. It's a delicate balancing act when white is involved...if it prints too fast then the white and color will mix, or the ink won't fully cure. Both of those outcomes are way worse than having to wait for a print to finish.
Yes; all but 5-layer sandwich mode, which is not offered on the new HP Latex 700 W and 800 W. That mode might be offered in the future, but I have no idea if or when that will ever be released.
@@LeeManevitch hi, when I try the 5-layer sandwich mode with my 800W HP with a different file for the second "face" I get a error when I click on "print now". the file goes on the lower window and onyx doesn't send it to the printer.
@@diegotiveron3108 You probably need to contact Onyx about this but if I recall there's an issue with sandwich mode printing when using PDF and cropping or scaling the file(s). So if that's what might be going on you may want to try saving as EPS instead and seeing if that helps. But it does appear to be RIP-related so get in touch with them. they're great people and while the people who answer support calls can't rewrite software they definitely can give you strategies for fixing the issue from your end.
In Flexi, yes. That functionally still isn't offered from Onyx. That's for the 700/800 - if you're asking about the R Series then yes...hundreds of people have been doing that for years now with no issue.
This was the best video I have seen. Thank you!
Super video ❤
Hello Do you want to do more videos about the 700W at our RM wraps shop in Meridian Idaho. :) We are learning more about the White inks. There's a lot to learn.
Reach out to me at lee.manevitch@hp.com and we can discuss.
good job!
Thanks!
Hello, im trying to get white and a color to print at the same time. I can get white and i can get color, just not at the same time. Im just trying to print one colored dot surrounded by several white dots. This is being printed on a clear substrate that will be applied to glass second surface. And we dont want sandwich mode with color white color, just individual color and white. Please help.
If you want white and color to print at the same time - and there's no overlap between white and color - then Spot mode is what you need. Have you tried that and you're having issues?
PS second surface so don't forget to reflect your image!
im using onyx and ive tried spot mode, but when we do it, it prints the white circles and floods white over the top of the colored circle@@LeeManevitch
Are you also adding white in Onyx? It's either/or - if you create white in Onyx you can't use your designed white, and vice-versa. From your description, you need to design the white outside of Onyx and then don't do anything in Onyx to create white.
If you want to send me your file, email it to youtube@manevitch.com and I'll send back a quick video of how it all *should* work.
Hi Lee,
Im having some difficulty using this print mode. Im using underflood to prints some white lettering and a white background section with color on top. But, my white is printing like is offset. like there's 2 layers of and they don't line up. Could you offer any advice? Mess with smart choke?
What "this" print mode are you talking about? In general yes - Smart Choke MUST be turned on because the diameter of the white ink drops is slightly larger than that of the colors...so even if registration is perfect, there will be white ink peeking out.
Start with 4px and adjust from there.
If it's misaligned by a lot, though, that's a head alignment issue.
hi where can i get the test print files from. trying to create an effect like the dandelion photo you showed, but need to get the source file to understand the setup procedure
All my photos are from paid stock websites, so I can't provide them, but you can probably find some good images on sites like Unsplash.
Can the Latex 335 print white?
No, and there is no ability to retrofit to include white. The 335 is a third-generation Latex printer and white is a fourth-generation technology.
Can spot mode be used and still print color on top? I would like to use both print heads to get faster printing
Spot prints white and color at the same time, and that's not negotiable. So if you print both in the same place they will mix.
The reason the other modes exist is specifically so there is separation between white and color - both in terms of time (drying) and also by dropping additional Optimizer between layers. If those modes weren't necessary to create, I promise the development team wouldn't have spent as much time as they did making them work. 😄
@@LeeManevitch thanks, I’m currently using underfloor white at 100% and the 700w is slow. I’m just trying to figure out how to get faster print speeds with out compromising the opacity of the white. Do you have any tips?
White density in any print mode is controlled by the number of passes, so unless you can get by with lower density (which you can't in this case) there aren't any additional "knobs" you can change to make the printer move faster than it does.
About the only advice I *could* give is that if you're not maximizing your carriage (printing 36" media, for example) or maximizing your layout efficiency, then you can see gains that way. Max throughput on the 700W in Underflood at 100% white density is 32 square feet per hour, and that assumes a full-width roll with full-width graphics. If your workflow and job specifics allow you to change to Overflood (white over color) then you'd see that throughput change to 65 sqft/hr but if you're printing on nontransparent media then that's a no-go.
It's a delicate balancing act when white is involved...if it prints too fast then the white and color will mix, or the ink won't fully cure. Both of those outcomes are way worse than having to wait for a print to finish.
@@LeeManevitch day 2 with the printer and I already want to just print these jobs that need white on my Edge FX printer lol 😂
If you're running 15" punched vinyl on your 700W I think I found the problem. 🤣
Are these methods suitable for HP Latex 700W?
Yes; all but 5-layer sandwich mode, which is not offered on the new HP Latex 700 W and 800 W. That mode might be offered in the future, but I have no idea if or when that will ever be released.
@@LeeManevitch 👍
UPDATE: 5-layer sandwich mode is available on the Latex 700/800 W platforms.
@@LeeManevitch hi, when I try the 5-layer sandwich mode with my 800W HP with a different file for the second "face" I get a error when I click on "print now". the file goes on the lower window and onyx doesn't send it to the printer.
@@diegotiveron3108 You probably need to contact Onyx about this but if I recall there's an issue with sandwich mode printing when using PDF and cropping or scaling the file(s). So if that's what might be going on you may want to try saving as EPS instead and seeing if that helps. But it does appear to be RIP-related so get in touch with them. they're great people and while the people who answer support calls can't rewrite software they definitely can give you strategies for fixing the issue from your end.
Do these modes work for the new HP latex 800W?
Yes - all these modes are available on the R-Series and the 700/800 W roll-to-roll printers.
Can I Print and Cut using the WSW mode?
In Flexi, yes. That functionally still isn't offered from Onyx.
That's for the 700/800 - if you're asking about the R Series then yes...hundreds of people have been doing that for years now with no issue.