The History of the Overground - North London Line (NLL)

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  • čas přidán 13. 07. 2024
  • Another day, another Overground Line. This is a brief History of the North London Line (NLL). From the early beginnings of the line to Woolwich to being used by the London Overground. It is now a critical route for North London.
    Twitter: Ashley_Rabot

Komentáře • 76

  • @Gabrielm624
    @Gabrielm624 Před 3 lety +19

    The best overground line, my parents always tell me how back in the day they used to call it the magic train or something like that because not many people knew about it as it was not on the tube map and everyone would freeload on it anyway.

    • @marcelwiszowaty1751
      @marcelwiszowaty1751 Před 3 lety +2

      Although I can't remember between which years, it *did* appear on the Tube map for a good while, appearing as white with black outlines. It was the route from Broad Street to Richmond, before reversion to North Woolwich.

  • @marcelwiszowaty1751
    @marcelwiszowaty1751 Před 3 lety +10

    Excellent piece, packing in a lot of information. I confess I've never really got to grips with the NLL's full history, so this this does the job clearly and concisely. I remember travelling on it way back in the mid to late 1970s... in its "urban backwater" days!

  • @zennor_man
    @zennor_man Před 2 lety +1

    A brilliant explanation of a complex subject....thanks. 👏

  • @ZariDim3012
    @ZariDim3012 Před 3 lety +11

    Ayyyy, you're back with another lovely video!

  • @gregessex1851
    @gregessex1851 Před 3 lety +15

    That's a very impressive piece of work Ashley. Easily the best explanation I have seen on the NLL.

  • @davidbrown6039
    @davidbrown6039 Před 3 lety +1

    Thanks for the detailed video, used to be very familiar with the NLL back in the day. My Grandfather was a Railway policeman based at Broad St between 1920 & 1951 and my Father was a signalman who worked most of the boxes between Dalston Junction and Camden Road between 1950 & 1985. In the 70's I regularly caught the Watford train at Highbury to Stonebridge Park, for the return journey I would usually have to change at Willesden Junction.

  • @MrTonellibruno
    @MrTonellibruno Před 3 lety +3

    Wow, what an excellent video. It's really a pleasure to watch your videos and learn a lot of history through a clear explanation and stunning graphics

  • @Keithbarber
    @Keithbarber Před 3 lety +4

    The north london line north woolwich - Richmond started as a through route in 1985 when the line was electrified and services diverted away from broad street which closed in 1986

  • @cyberman486
    @cyberman486 Před 3 lety +2

    Love just watching the graphics, even if I struggle to keep up with all the London rail lines 😄

  • @roberthatcher2773
    @roberthatcher2773 Před 3 lety

    Absolutely fascinating, thanks for all your work!

  • @michaelreid3906
    @michaelreid3906 Před 3 lety

    Excellent work & well researched and presented Ashley

  • @MichaelTavares
    @MichaelTavares Před 3 lety

    Another brilliant quality video. Thank you so much

  • @amethyst7084
    @amethyst7084 Před 3 lety

    Really thorough and enjoyable video! Thanks for sharing.

  • @MartinOmander
    @MartinOmander Před 3 lety

    Excellent use of maps and graphics to explain what happened. Well done!

  • @brianmiller1871
    @brianmiller1871 Před rokem

    Excellent presentation and explanation - love travelling this line from Stratford to Camden

  • @scemeengineer
    @scemeengineer Před 3 lety +1

    Brilliant video, really enjoyable. It’s on my to do list this year to go from Stratford to Richmond.

  • @cecilefox9136
    @cecilefox9136 Před 2 měsíci

    I used to use this train to go to the dentist in Finchley Frognal and Stella Mann ballet school in the '70' s.

  • @Conan500
    @Conan500 Před 3 lety

    Great research and very clear and informative graphics. Well done 👍

  • @trevorpyle6613
    @trevorpyle6613 Před rokem

    Good piece. Well done.

  • @cecilefox9136
    @cecilefox9136 Před 2 měsíci

    Very well explained!👍Thanks.

  • @PsychicLord
    @PsychicLord Před 3 lety

    Brilliant, you have excelled yourself with this presentation. You have set yourself a high target going forward :)

  • @AndrewG1989
    @AndrewG1989 Před 3 lety +10

    Maybe TfL, London Overground and Network Rail could reopen Primrose Hill station and to allow London Overground to operate the new Stratford-Watford Junction via Willesden Junction (low level) service. With using Class 378 and Class 710 dual voltage trains and changing voltage at Primrose Hill.
    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Primrose_Hill_railway_station

  • @lfewell2161
    @lfewell2161 Před 3 lety +1

    The section between Victoria park and bow was not replaced by the A12 or A102 as it was before being renumbered, the road was built roughly alongside. A large metal bridge was built for the road to pass under the railway at hackney wick. This section of line was closed a few years later and parts of the trackbed have been built upon.

  • @flippop101
    @flippop101 Před 2 lety

    You’ve done a great job of the research, and of the presentation. I regarded the line as a rather slow alternative to the underground and used by those in the know. You certainly got a different view of London from the carriage window!

  • @alexgruchet5512
    @alexgruchet5512 Před 3 lety

    Been waiting fir this fir ages.....YES!!

  • @tjejojyj
    @tjejojyj Před 3 lety

    Superb. Excellent animation.

  • @CCA2020
    @CCA2020 Před 3 lety +11

    I’m not going to lie, I was planning to sneak into the abandoned north wool in station but I don’t really want a criminal record lol

    • @danielboulton98
      @danielboulton98 Před 3 lety

      There used to be a great museum there after it closed

  • @shauntodd7123
    @shauntodd7123 Před 3 lety

    Great Video Ashley

  • @seancirillo6605
    @seancirillo6605 Před 3 lety +3

    Love it ! There could be been room for the old oak comman changes and the proposed maiden lane station but overall good video and love the new animation

  • @stephenslater7489
    @stephenslater7489 Před 3 lety

    Very interesting video. Thank you.

  • @danielboulton98
    @danielboulton98 Před 3 lety +1

    I remember going from North Woolwich before it closed in 2006

  • @Tobberz
    @Tobberz Před 3 lety

    Very clear, good job

  • @bobbyggare8364
    @bobbyggare8364 Před 3 lety +1

    so cool!

  • @sr6424
    @sr6424 Před 3 lety

    Really interesting. I remember reading an article on the Richmond Broad Street line in the 1980s. It was really run down and hardly used.

  • @PlanetoftheDeaf
    @PlanetoftheDeaf Před 3 lety +2

    Great video, your use of animation is very helpful. Silverlink wasn't the start of the Richmond to North Woolwich route, which started in 1985 when Broad Street station and the line to Dalston Junction was closed, and Richmond to Broad Street services were diverted to North Woolwich instead, with that section now electrified. The service was pretty poor before TfL took it over, shorter trains and lower frequency.

    • @lfewell2161
      @lfewell2161 Před 3 lety

      1985 was when the electric service started, for a few years prior to that a 2 car diesel service ran between Camden road and North Woolwich.

    • @davidbull7210
      @davidbull7210 Před 3 lety

      Actually Broad Street was closed in 1986 but the services were cut back the year before

    • @davespagnol8847
      @davespagnol8847 Před 2 lety

      I remember travelling when it was Silverlink. I don't think they ever cleaned the trains in those days! And they'd get cancelled without notice.

  • @macsuf
    @macsuf Před 3 lety

    Nice animations !

  • @nicholasmarshall110
    @nicholasmarshall110 Před 3 lety +1

    Great video, as always! Though I think the London Overground should be broken up into individual lines on the Tube Map. I'm thinking:
    -The North London Line (Richmond/Clapham Junction to Stratford)
    -The South London Line (Clapham Junction/Battersea Park to Highbury and Islington)
    -The Goblin Line (Gospel Oak to Barking)
    -The remaining North/South Overground Lines could then be incorporated into new Crossrail Projects to give London a proper RER / S-Bhan style railway.

    • @nicholasmarshall110
      @nicholasmarshall110 Před 3 lety +1

      @Deesar Thafaks install a flyover east of Romford and add it to the Elizabeth Line. Saves having to change trains

  • @bobbydee4876
    @bobbydee4876 Před 3 lety

    Hi Mr Rabot I was wondering & hoping you could do a history of the Docklands Light Railway for your next series as I used this service regularly for work and leisure thank you.

  • @triggerwarning7662
    @triggerwarning7662 Před 3 lety

    8:11 Crossrail has two routes to Liverpool - a new tunnel from Stratford from Pudding Mill Lane (hence the station/track move) which continues through the Central London route and along the current Greater Anglia tracks to terminate at Stratford. It does not go via Bow Road as your map suggests.

  • @dinty66
    @dinty66 Před 3 lety

    North London Line between Richmond & Stratford was marked out on Tube maps in early 80's , operated by BR but travel passes were accepted ;

  • @laurenceskinnerton73
    @laurenceskinnerton73 Před 10 měsíci

    Interesting.

  • @ricktownend9144
    @ricktownend9144 Před 3 lety

    There is still (I think) a link between Canonbury and Finsbury Park; back in the 2970s there used to be commuter trains from Broad Street using this; now it's presumably for freight; passengers can transfer at Highbury & Islington to connect between the North London and Great Northern lines.

  • @nathancruz9982
    @nathancruz9982 Před 3 lety

    Can you make a video on the Windsor Link Railway

  • @nigelkthomas9501
    @nigelkthomas9501 Před 3 lety +1

    Good route and service, but the trains used on the London Overground have absolutely diabolical seating! I’d honestly rather have a pacer than one of those hideous units!

  • @teecefamilykent
    @teecefamilykent Před 3 lety +1

    Liverpool mainline Station lol, and sleepers never ran from kings Cross. Brill video :-)

  • @rupertbare2023
    @rupertbare2023 Před 11 měsíci

    Back in the 1960s, living in the Richmond area, I remember we always used to call it the Broad Street Line. Were we wrong, or was that the correct name?

  • @bobblue_west
    @bobblue_west Před 3 lety

    I ride the NLL almost everyday. Hampstead Heath to Gunnersbury for Chiswick or Ken Olympia for Ken High Street. Some people I hear call it the Overground, but they have no sense of history.

  • @FusionZenFlame
    @FusionZenFlame Před 3 lety

    im pretty sure the sght of north woolwich station is albert road

  • @GustavSvard
    @GustavSvard Před 3 lety +2

    Does TfL ever run Overground trains that go the full loop?
    If not, they should IMO. Maybe once a week, first thing on sundays? :)

    • @teecefamilykent
      @teecefamilykent Před 3 lety

      No, no they do not.

    • @andrewstevenson72
      @andrewstevenson72 Před 3 lety +1

      The track layout at Highbury & Islington/Canonbury/Dalston doesn't actually allow through running from the North London Line to the East London Line.

  • @jorgedasilva2054
    @jorgedasilva2054 Před 3 lety

    1:36 Silvertown will not reopen in 2022, it is passive provisioned but will not reopen. Also Stratford High Street closed much earlier than 2006

  • @tomslade3365
    @tomslade3365 Před 3 lety

    The clip of fright train made me LOL as its USA twin stack wagon's which would wip out 90% of the rout A good video and not to be over critical I would say Network south east founded the rout as the NNL before that it was very much a back walter of the london network the 313 emu help't as did getting the line on maps as london conections map

    • @andrewstevenson72
      @andrewstevenson72 Před 3 lety +1

      Efforts at branding it as the North London Line and encouraging usage as an alternative to going in and out of central London began way before NSE. For example here's a poster from 1972. www.flickr.com/photos/21602076@N05/50023290576/in/dateposted/

    • @tomslade3365
      @tomslade3365 Před 3 lety

      @@andrewstevenson72 25 p WOW ! it would been cheeper to fly on concord LOL I can rember a day out in london in the 1980 could be done for £5 travil card and a Mc donalds to eat wilst train spotting

  • @tomslade3365
    @tomslade3365 Před 3 lety

    The Model railway club london has two layouts that feture the NNL one is Copenhagan fields baced to the north on kings x the other is Bow Works Bow jution look up the clubs web site

  • @tommcgrath2496
    @tommcgrath2496 Před 3 lety +1

    Surely it's Kensal Rise & Kensal Green not Kensel.

  • @zepic9093
    @zepic9093 Před rokem

    Your map says Silvertown Station reopening in 2022 but there's no plan for a station there

  • @CCA2020
    @CCA2020 Před 3 lety +1

    Wait what custom house railway station reopening in 2022?

  • @raphaelnikolaus0486
    @raphaelnikolaus0486 Před 3 lety

    At 3:05 I guess you meant to say "intermediate" station. ;)

  • @triggerwarning7662
    @triggerwarning7662 Před 3 lety

    0:26 The map is wrong - the NLL never curved back in on itself like it is shown in North Woolwich

  • @doomjuan4892
    @doomjuan4892 Před 3 lety +1

    Has anyone here got NIMBY Rails yet on the PC?

    • @ashleyrabot
      @ashleyrabot  Před 3 lety +2

      Was actually considering to do a video on that

    • @doomjuan4892
      @doomjuan4892 Před 3 lety +1

      @@ashleyrabot very cool, could even map the NLL.

  • @ABMW-tech
    @ABMW-tech Před 3 lety

    It is good. But would be even better if part of the movie would be shot outside.

  • @JeremyJacobsPresenter
    @JeremyJacobsPresenter Před 3 lety

    You pronounce Dalston incorrectly