THE ENGINE ON MY AUDI S3 IS RUINED!! HOW? WHY?
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- čas přidán 19. 12. 2022
- In today's video we start diagnosing the issue on my Audi S3, we strip the top and bottom of the engine to discover the issue!
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Dean, I love your channel, not because I understand or love cars anywhere as much as you, but because I very much admire your passion, effort and sheer hard work in striving to what want to achieve. I'm a lot older than you and also really love to fix things but wish I had 10% of the drive, determination and ingenuity you have. Good luck to you and best wishes to your family - your parents must be very proud and I wish you every good fortune for the future. This country needs more people like you and a government which supports them and not hinders them!
Set of bearings and send it 💪🤣 I think someones chucked that back together without the bearing in just to sell it as a 'runner'. Never seen one totally disappear before!
I would look for another good engine. Yes it would be nice to see it being rebuilt but since that bearing has completely disappeared and the amount of fines in the oil also the head being dry it might have clogged oil ways or further metal fragments that could cause problems later on.
Would not trust a block after making an entire bearing pair disappear. Even if you've get every metal particle out, you'll still be rebalancing the crank, honing bores, rebuilding oil pumps and replacing conrods.
The long slivers and conrod edges show what happened, bearing was run after spinning and fully chewed up on the crank. Flake by flake it made it's way out and around the rest of the engine. It was run for a long time after that bearing spun.
Sorry .. but another other Engine have the same problem !! The design is rubbish !! an please .. down´t buy another engine with low miles on it !! (shit in = shit out) !!
Dedication! Certain people get annoyed about scraping windscreen in the morning. This is motivating!
Fascinating forensics analysis! I really appreciate the extra effort you spent to show us the good vs. bad bearing caps, as well as the camshaft journals.
Brilliant content Dean. Content wise a rebuild would be really good but in reality it could be better to get a good second hand engine if that's possible.
Great video Dean, I would just cut my losses and get a recon engine, plus the time and hassle for you is far less.
Have a great Xmas yourself and I look forward to your forthcoming vids.
Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year to you and your family Dean. Love the videos and can't wait for more of them in 2023.
Always look forward to your videos, very informative and easy to follow, thanks!
What is left of the bearing is welded to the crank I believe. The fillet rad's are much more pronounced on pin 3 than they are on pin 2. I wouldn't be rebuilding that either, no idea where all the debris has gone, by the time you have spent all the time stripping it to every last part, cleaning them all, some crank machining (it will need it), rod, piston, oil pump, full gasket set, etc. A new engine is the way forward
Agree, and with that much pay in the rods, what do the valves look like?, wouldn't be surprised if they had touched.
From a content point of view, engine rebuild. From a sensible point of view, new engine. Have a great Christmas Dean. Looking forward to the new year and a conclusion to your numerous projects 👍👍👍
Whenever you buy a car from someone who has already tried to fix it, you know they’ve found something very expensive and just want to get shot of it without you finding out the real reason. Usually it’s sold with stories of, “I just got bored” or “I haven’t got the time anymore”…… 😂😂
need the space or baby forces sale
Yep the classic! 😂
Some times it can also be lack of knowledge or skills being the reason people give up on stuff too..
He’s had the sump off found a toasted bearing and put
It back together without the bearing in the cap.
What’s engine code
New engine would be the safest option. Your banging out some amazing content at the moment 🙌🙌🙌
How you know all you do is awesome Dean. Great breakdown of the faults
Great video Dean, merry Christmas and happy new year to you and your family. Hope 2023 will be a good one. With regards to the oil problem at the top end I would check to make sure the little gauze filter that in the cam carrier hasn't displaced and blocked the oil way to the cam bearings maybe oil pump failed or the last person that tried to fix it didn't know what he was doing
Cheers Dean, Happy Christmas to you and yours too. Really enjoy your videos and especially this S3 series as I have a 67 facelift S3. I’m not mechanically minded but learn little bits here and there, like this video, I now know where the oil filter is on my car! Hopefully it’s not got as many metal flakes in it as yours does though! (Sorry). I’d quite happily watch a series where you rebuild this engine as I’m sure others with EA888 engine would too, but equally, I’m sure I’d learn just as much watching an engine swap.
Great content Dean with your first principle forensic approach to solving problems with broken motors. Seems like a lot of cumulative damage on this engine, could end up with a block issue ? I would go for a replacement engine on this one, it is a popular model, and will sell well.👍😎
I get these in a lot with this damage
My guess is coolant has leaked out, it has been driven with low or little to no coolant, engine has ran extremely hot and oil temperature has gotten over 130+ degrees and lost its properties to which I think you will find bearing has span and you will actually find the bearing welded to the top rod bearing and stuck to the back of the crank (side you cannot see)
Yes water pump is a known weak point and they start to leak and lose coolant - just had to replace mine for this same reason !
@@rolly5009 I had a coolant problem on mine which they fixed under warranty. I thought they were better quality than that!
@@anonymouse740 mine is the FL 2017 - I called Audi and they denied there is even an issue with the water pump leaking as I was hoping there was a recall for the problem….No such luck 😂
Merry Christmas to you and your family Dean. Keep up the content in 2023 👍
Don't waste your time on it Dean. You have enough projects on the go which we would rather see. Great work on the channel bro. Merry Christmas and a Happy New year to you 🎄🎆
I wanna see a rebuild. I have the same engine in my Cupra 280. Don't give up on it, such a good platform the S3
Needs binning to be a better option. Cranks needing a regrind, new rod and piston. Head may have damage . Also mains may show damage , so until you strip fully, the assessment could change your personnel decision if you think its best to repair. Swarf in all the galleries is a nightmare. Scoring of the camshaft journals isn't an issue as can be changed, but the soft head they run in will be scored up. Sadly more trouble than a replacement engine. Also either way is any oil coolers also swarfed up need replacing too. Have a good Xmas break Dean and look forward to the next installments .
Crazy how the bering has gone. As you said, you would expect more shards of metal if they had worn out. Probably a cowboy had a look and didn't put them back in. So unless you're willing to strip the whole engine down first to check if it's worth saving (there could possibly be a few gremlins). I'd just bite the bullet and put a new engine in to save time an hassle.
Someone already dropped the oil pan and pulled all the big chunks out.
im with you Dean, i would definitely say that someone has been in there and removed the rest of the shell debris, there is no way you would see absolute no remnant of 2 shells in there.
R8 engine rebuild update is good news. Dean, take us on the journey. Love these stories.
id go for another engine Dean,,
thankyou for all the quality videos you make for all of us,,🙏🙏
and a merry xmas and new year to you and yours Dean,,,👌👍
merry Christmas. thanks for the content all year. ive enjoyed it. the engine i would change.
Best of luck . And happy Christmas 🎄
New engine dean, got to be the easiest way. All the best to you and your family have a great Christmas 🎅🏻
Merry Christmas mate, I’d like to see the engine rebuilt, as you say it doesn’t look that bad 👍👍
Really enjoyed this video buddy. Have a good Christmas fella
Hi Dean, what's the approx cost of a secondhand engine versus parts and time to rebuild this one? Would be great to see the rebuild vid but you've already got a couple of others to do and I'm sure you won't be allowed t spend all of Christmas in the garage!! Thanks for the vids this year, enjoy your family time and Happy Christmas
Watching your videos i started buying only audi A3 or S3. Rebuild engine by myself, parts in Serbia and head work are about 1000 euro. Original pistons, rods, crank, camshafts.
Have a great Xmas, thanks for an enjoyable year on YT, looking forward to 2023 😀
New engine! Brave guy good luck. 👍👍👍👍👍have good one.
I think someone had it apart and I either forgot or couldn't be bothered to put in the shells that are missing. Running the engine like that finished it off. I would trash this engine and get a used one. Great video as always Dean! Enjoy the holidays!!
Definitely looks like the water pump has failed or it’s started to fall lost coolant and then got really hot causing the damage I know a few people who have had the same problem with this engine vw did have a recall on them to fit a stronger water pump this one looks like it gave up before the recall, merry Christmas 🎄 to you mate love these videos it keeps me tinkering on my tt 👍🏻 have a good one.
Bin it ! Get another lump put in 😉 But where the f### have the shells gone too ? Thank for some great videos this year Dean 😁 hope you and your family have a great Xmas.
Great content mate, l never miss a video. Have good Christmas. Can’t wait to see the R8 finished
Great video as usual Dean think you need to get a new engine. have a great Christmas
Was that Rodney knocking on the door!
Looking forward to the repair and seeing this car back on the road.
I wonder if lack of oil changes was the cause?
I think that engine's scrap. Best wishes and a merry Christmas to you and yours.
Really enjoying your channel keep up the good work :)
For channel content rebuild would be great; but of course you also have to think about the bottom line!
Sounds like a lot of work and expense to rebuild and could stiil be problems so a second hand engine might be the best way to go - you are not having a lot of luck with Audi engines at the moment!! Hope you have a good Christmas - thanks for all the great content over the last year👍
Great video Dean! Love these cars. Think I'd pivot towards getting a new engine for it though..
Great content Dean, you might still find the hearings in there yet, I'd source a good second-hand engine, your going the right way with the R8, Merry Christmas to you and your family, well done mate.
Pretty standard fare form for the Audi 2.0TFSI engine. The light scoring on the cam journals is normal for these, as long as you can't feel it with your nails. Check the oil screen in the cam bridge. The have a habit of falling apart and ending up the cam timing actuator valve. These engines also suffer from oil burning due the poor oil control ring design. They gum up. Later years do fare better I believe. Many owners are not on their game re topping up the oil. They run low and boom. That I think is the most likely cause of failure. The crank journal in #2 is toast. It's not super-bad but a regrind would be needed or replace the crank. I have a good 2.0 crank here 🙂 If the bores are OK it could be saved but once metal filings are in the oil you'd need to check everything very carefully and the hot flush as you mentioned is a must. Make sure you replace pistons and/or rings with the latest revised design. Like you I'd love to know where the bearing shells ended up. The backing material is steel so not easy to shred! I detect some more great content in the pipe Dean! 👍
Gwarn sean Gwarn son ..
A rebuild dean good content but price bits up first though could be costly mate all the best for Xmas and the new year 👍
Recon engine Dean, great videos mate, always learning from you.
once the shells in No.2 disintegrated oil pressure/flow throughout the engine would have been drastically reduced as most of it would have escaped through the now open gallery in no. 2 journal, this might explain the low oil pressure code and the timing error assuming the chain is tensioned by oil pressure..... clogging elsewhere should be limited by the pickup filter and main oil filter, a new oil pump is probably a good idea or at least a rebuild, journal on no.2 is the worrying thing so far....completely agree about the cam cover being off and your theory that someone removed most of the old shell and possibly even had the end cap off.
if you can get shells cheaply enough might be worth re-assembling with a plastigauge to see how much wear has taken place .... if it looks ok, give the journal a polish and see how it sounds - although there's still coolant loss to consider...
sorry for the longest comment ever, great content :)
Try and get a 2hand engine great video Dean looking forward to seeing the next one happy Christmas 🎉
Replacement engine is the way to go
As long as it’s warranted
Interesting video with great content, looking forward to next one. 👍👍👍👍
I would love to see you repair and rebuild, but a replacement engine would be tempting !
Replacement engine. Have a great festive season with your family Dean.
Happy Crimbo Dean - keep up the good work! 😁
Love it when you found the owner on IG: “It just needs a top end and head gasket”
Err no. It needs a bin and a new engine. Classic.
Great work there fella.
With the rod bearing gone from cylinder 2 and then running it. The piston likely hit the head and valves. It is likely that cylinder has bent valves and damage to the combustion chamber. It is likely the cylinder head is not in good shape after that. Still worth a rebuild though. New head, valves rods, pistons, bore and hone the block. Inspect the oil pump clean and reuse if ok. Rebuild then send it.
Weird, would expect to see something left of the bearing... Maybe previous "fixers" forgot to add it back? I'd stick with it... Be good to get to the bottom of the issue. Great content as always Dean!
Depends how long its been run knocking like that. Seen loads of cars where the shell has worn so thin the chunks just slip out
That was my thought - maybe it had a destroyed bearing previously and then somebody forgot to put a new one in - and then they started it up and thought "shit..." and got rid of the car. If it looks clean otherwise, then that might be a good sign.
Yeah i would agree.. no evidence of chunks , no trace of a bearing
Previous reassembly error - someone 'forgot' to refit a pair of shells. For the cost of a set of shells (you can be sure that the swarf from No.2 will have travelled around the whole engine) and a bit of emery on No.2 crank, you've nothing to lose!
Hi Dean as you seem to get a lot of projects that have dead engines have you considered getting a powered mover like caravaners use? Or a small JCB like Chris @ Salvage Rebuilds has?
Another good video. I think you need to get into the engine more, eg head off and piston assemblies out, but the camshaft scores might polish out.
You could hear when you started the car that there was a big end noise, but also something from the top end too, gutted, but really that's too far gone internally, best start hunting for an engine.
ps love your content, keep it up bud
It's gor to a rebuild dean .... as you know so much about this type of engine. Well v.a.g.s ....so go on rebuild it . !!!! Thx & all the best .
Looks to me like someone opened it up - pulled the bearing shells - or what was left of them, thought "nah - too risky".
I'd suggest looking for a secondhand EA888 from a cat C write off - S3 or golf R. You could then recon that other EA888 and sell it.
Hi Dean for content I would love to see a rebuild but perhaps the most economical thing would be to get a new engine and we could have content of the install.
That is strange missing parts off a engine, maybe they saw the problem and did not rebuild the engine properly. I think that this engine is reparable on not to much cost but i am not a expert ! Wait to see what your choice it will be ! Wish you and your Family a very nice Christmas and hope to see you back on Boxing day or somewhere between Christmas and New Year !
Tons of gasket goo hanging into the cam box. might have contributed to blocking oil galleries. Cant explain where the other half of the big end shell dissapeared to. I doubt that the original engine would ever be right even with a full rebuild. Great content and I'm hooked on the R8 saga.
Dean your channel is amazing
Great job!
Another quality motor from VAG
For a performance engine it's rough Dean, Its likely been driven on to get the associated consequential damage (that you've seen so far!). Personally I wouldn't put money into repairing it unless You planned to keep it. Stick a replacement motor in it. Good luck...
I admire your tenacity Dean, and your videos are great to watch, but man you are messy… I couldn’t cope with the parts and tools everywhere, my OCD would flip! Keep the content coming, looking forward to the Porsche GT4 progressing 👍🏻
Thanks for the content mate, Merry Xmas! Your vids help me get off my arse and tackle my project's, but I no longer live in the UK and do not miss rolling around on the frozen floor 😅
Here's my 10c/2p - find another engine, good used will do. You have enough on your plate. When I saw the oil filter I was shouting at the TV to just drop that engine 🤣
If it was an older, rarer vehicle, I would then repair the engine. Crank needs good polish in my opinion and some other items may end up costing that little extra/need replacing upon rebuilding, not making a rebuild economical IMO. 🤙👍
Mini R53. Same thing, never found the shells - even after a complete teardown, clean and rebuild.
Merry Christmas to you and your family hope you have a good one 👍
Wishing you and your family all the best for Xmas and the new year 👍
Great video 2nd hand engine in will probably be best It looks like a boy racer ran it low on oil and damaged the bottom end and probably blocked or starved the cams of oil which could have slightly bent the cams
etc. And I can not wait for the r8 update
I diagnosed "no Shells" on one journal, on hearing your vid last week. Yes it's certainly possible, it's happened to me! I'll bet if you measure the journal it will be LESS than .0060 undersize. Yeah, new crank too
Brilliant content as always. Think another decent engine would be the way to go or just get shut, I mean honestly how many projects can you juggle ? Merry Christmas pal
Happy Christmas 👍 new engine
Hi Dean the con rod big end will be ovalled so even you put a new set of shell bearings in the big ends within a few miles it will be rattling again so you need a second hand engine
Think the coolant everywhere is part of the story Dean, overheated it and done the case hardening in on the bearing surfaces, don’t waste money on that motor it’s toast (no pun intended) looks like they’ve had it open found the damage and just thrown it back together to get rid. Recon motor mate is the way to go. Happy Xmas to you and yours
Great video's really enjoying them all, 👍garage could do with a good tidy LOL.
It could always do with a good tidy 😂. Organised chaos
This is strange. Once you have the crank out, hopefully you will know more. Good luck and merry Christmas !
I'm shocked to see that there are no location cutouts for the bearings in the rod or cap to prevent bearing spin.
This is my favourite channel , And salvage rebuilds chris is a master at what he does . And matt is good aswell he giving me an M3 tonight at 9pm .
Sorry mate my M3 you can have the money 🤩👍
@@peterwall9896 ok we will see im happy with cash
@@guy4469 we both have 5..1.. chance of winning 😎❤️👍 but I want the car... LOL
As sherlock Holmes used to say , if you have eliminated the impossible what ever remains however improbable must be the truth so if them shells have gone somebody has already been in that engine.
Good money after bad to rebuild that engine Dean, Oil starvation could be scored cylinders also bud. The list of parts would probably surpass the cost of a good 2nd hand engine from a good breaker. Not to mention if it’s been low on oil it’s probably overheated at some stage also 🤷🏼♂️ the list is endless. A bare engine is in the region of £1500/£2K for a lowish mile car and with you being trade you probably pick one up close to home. Let’s be honest you’ve enough bigger headaches atm without 2.0tfsi joining the club 😂😂😂😂😂
Wishing you and the family a Merry Christmas 🎄 and a happy new year 🎉
Bud
Thanks for all your videos though out the year Dean 👍🏼
Rebuild it. Last guy obviously wasn’t competent but you are 👍👍. Have a good Xmas
Definitely new engine. However, would be interesting to just pop in a shell, change the oil and see if it runs (until you fit the new engine). Hope you feel better soon
It's not worth putting any more money into that engine, it will just do the same again.
Merry Xmas Dean!
That motor is toast 😁Have a great Xmas 😄
Upgrade to a RS3 lump? Great videos as always
It’s really the cost of parts and time compared to the a cost of a used lump, if you can find one though the way it it’s probably cheaper to go used lump, and I don’t think it will make much difference on resale
Doesn’t look too bad though, maybe drop the other big ends and borescope the cylinders to decide
Merry Christmas to you too
Thanks for all the content
Have you looked behind the Sump Oil Filter Accumulator for the two shells.
do a rebuild Dean mate, be good viewing, have a boss Xmas and new year 👌👌
For those shells to be totally gone is a head scratcher serious oil starvation on that con rod.
I reckon there’s a blocked oil channel somewhere
Saving is your gig, brother! Rebuild her!
With the bearing destroyed there’s a risk the piston has hit the cylinder head & possibly cracked it, its probably best to budget for a replacement engine, but it would be nice to pull t apart & see all the damage