Tacoma Doesn't Need Side Steps
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The Tacoma doesn't need side steps does it? Are they really just in the way or do they serve a functional purpose. It all depends...
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Even a little bit of sliding starts to wear your upholstery out. I use them just for that reason. Also helps with door dings.
I love having mine for the sake of washing. So easy to get the top without needing to get a ladder
i love them, there great. my dad has a hard time getting into the truck it’s too tall. works perfect. prevents door dings
That’s one thing we differ on. I think trucks look better with Nerf Bars. Maybe not the factory older looking steps but Nurf bars really make them look sporty in my opinion. But hey that’s why they make all different kinds because we don’t all have to same tastes. 👍
Absolutely!! I’d be pretty boring if we all had the same taste. I really prefer the nice smooth look of a lifted truck without them. However, they do have their place👍
Gear Runner agreed predators look great! Factory are hideous.
I have a set of Predator Steps on my 2021 TRD Sport and they were on the vehicle when I bought it. They definitely look good but they are not very functional. I use them to enter the truck but you have to be careful to step up on that little step. They are solid steel so they will protect your vehicle during a high break over maneuver while off-road. However, the step itself is vulnerable. I have slid over rocks with them using extreme care but I’ve seen people rip them off. A lot of people just cut them off and use the rail for protection. It is very difficult to get your foot just right to use them to access my roof rack or wipe down the top of the roof after washing my truck. That said, I would never buy them again and would insist that the dealer remove them if they come on my future trucks. Cuz I ain’t paying for them.
I'm 5'8'' and i don't need them. However, my 6 year old uses them to hop in the back.
Now there’s a good use for them. Definitely good for the little ones👍
@@RobMotive I agree though, they aren't needed. Especially for a stock height truck. I will remove mine as soon as the little one can get in without them. Or I might just get sliders that are actually functional and can help with the step in for little legs.
A month ago I bought a 2022 Tacoma off road with those exact steps .. On day two of owning my Tacoma we went off roading .. at mile two I lost the front passenger step and at mile 3 I crushed the drivers side front. Day three at the welding shop and used a die grinder and removed the steps and covered the running boards with bed liner .. now they work!
Just ordered a tacoma and it has a lift with the predator sidesteps. I think Id take them off if it was just me but my wife is 5,1 and so she needs them.
As a 5'1" with a carseat in my Tacoma, I love the way it looks without sidesteps, but I do need them 😂
I agree. Tacoma’s look nicer without any step bar. If anything, for off-roaders, some rock sliders that extend to also protect your truck from car doors. But even that take away from the beauty of a naked Taco 🌮
Yup...I agree👍
Rob, you're living the life. thank you for your videos
Thanks for watching Chris.
Predator steps will get damaged if you do some mild off-roading, the regular ones look better and are a little more tucked up and out of the way. The only time I use mine is when I wash the roof. Also if you got a mild t-bone collision, they might help you a little.
I’d agree with at. I say if you’re an off-roader you shouldn’t have steps at all😎
I’ve got the OEM cast aluminum running boards on mine, the predator steps for me, are too far forward ... if they were back about 8” they’d be perfect. The nice thing about the running boards is the platform allows me to wash the roof and reach the entire windshield without having to get out a step stool/ladder.
They do come in handy for that👍
You are on the wall if you like them or not. However you still have them installed. I’m buying a set based on your review.
You are right. But they can be handy for muddy shoes. Other than that they are pointless on the Tacoma unless a person is 5' or under.
Lol when you get old lol that was the funniest thing I heard all day
Thanks for the video because i was thinking if i should put running boards on my 2020 tacoma and i’m 5’11” tall. I was hesitant and now after watching your video . i realize that i don’t really need it. Thanks!
Nope! They’d just be in the way I think👍
I'm 6'1" and I took mine off. Never used them getting in, and getting out was a pain always had to step way out to avoid them. I loved the look of them, but we're always in the way.
I can understand that. For me they are marginal. Sometimes they are in the way.
Helps your seats 💺 to last longer
Hey Rob your truck is looking great! I’m 5’11” and find th side steps in my way most of the time. That being said, they are nice for smaller people to use. But half the ones I see on other vehicles are bent and once that happens they look terrible. If I were to put them on my truck I would go with the Amp retractable ones that have lighting for the night use. You can also turn them on and off. They suck up pass the frame and out of the way so they won’t get bent that easily. A little pricey though! Anyway like the video maybe the Amp running can be your next upgrade 😛
Lighting would be nice down there. Amp has a great product from all I’ve heard👍
I ordered the Toyota version of the Predator for my new 2023 (next week) Taco Sport in Lunar Rock. I carry long sea-kayaks and have always liked having them to secure my roof rack load of two boats.
I have to agree with you Rob, I usually am able to just jump in and out without them, but it is useful for my kids. I actually would prefer the running boards for their functionality. Thanks for sharing Rob🤙
Yup, I bet they are great for kids. Mine are all grown now👴
Thanks, I’m trying to decide if I need them. Hard call. Love the Purple Martins chirping in the background!
Sometimes they’re just in the way...🤔
I had running boards on my 06 Ridgeline that I drove for 11 years, and the thing that I hated most was that in bad weather-wet or snowy- was that every time I got out of the truck, my legs would rub against them and my clothes would get dirtier than hell. I don’t miss them at all on my ‘16 Taco. I’m glad it’s naked. I’m 5’7. Mines got a 3 inch leveling kit also.
Oh I know what you mean. Always had salt on the legs of my pants in the winter!!
My 17 came with the same steps. About 2 weeks after I bought it I bashed the passenger rear on a rock and took them off. I think it's actually easier to get in and out without them, even with a 2" lift. Haha
They are definitely in the way if you are an avid off-roader. Only sliders in that case I think.
GREAT REVIEW!!! I think you also covered something quite important most people don't: how are those steps going to become an actual hazard once snow and ice WILL collect there... I was sitting on the fence... you just saved me a nice chunk of $$. Thanks Rob!
Glad to help👍
…. But it’s a great way to hide an ugly frame
I like the looks and wouldn't mind some that would help prevent door dings from the dinguses at the Walmart parking lot
I used to think they’d save me in parking lots...but some people always seem to find a way!!!!!😬
I just got a non-lifted 2022 TRD Sport with oversized tires and the same side steps. I’m 5’ 10” and I use the step to get in and out because I think it saves the wear on the leather seat. Otherwise I wouldn’t need it. Just my theory :)
I'm 6 ft 1 in and I dont need running boards but all my friends and family average at 5 ft 5 in and have a problem getting in my stock height tacoma. I bought and installed running boards for them but I do find them often in my way.
I’m surprised they have issue in a stock height Tacoma. I’m not 5’5” (5’9”) but I’d think they’d still be in the way for them. Now if you were lifted I could see it👍
5'9 and I just put some on my Tacoma today....it's not lifted, but they do make things easier for my bad knees (thanks Army). My wife though, is 5'2 and she appreciates them so much more.
That’s great! Gotta go with what works best for you👍
Look like they'd be anchors off-road. The opposite of "sliders" haha.
For me it's for my family and for my knee. I'm 6'0" with a 3in lifted Taco. I don't currently have steps and can get in and out very easily. However, I've already had 2 surgeries on my knee and it won't get any better. Also for my family, my mom, cousins, and if I ever had a wife and kids, they'll have a hard time getting in. It's a daily truck so I don't mind it plus I think nerf bars look really cool.
Not many people like the side steps but I love the look of the predator side steps. Idk what it is
I can see that. I think the Predators are the best look for the Tacoma👍
I'm a short guy. Have had Chevy, Dodge Dakota, Frontier all are with a running boards. I have never use it because there is no need for them to get in but the boards are a big obstacle to get out. Have to jump oven them on the ground. The board don't stick out far enough to step in on them. Plus you have to open the truck door wide enough to step precise on the board. Kinda hassle.
But to be fair I'm looking for 2020 Tacoma step sides but can't find a right one.
I can see that. Before lifting my trucks they were in the way.
The tacoma at the stock height is kinda awkward to get in and out of when using step bars. For some, the truck sits too high so they buy these, then they have a hard time getting in because when they step on the step bars they now have to bend over to get into the cab.
Yup...I can see that😬
I have Rough Country running boards similar to Predator. I have two young kids so they're practical right now.
Oh I bet! Gotta help out the kiddies👍
I myself dont need the steps for my truck, but my mother has a hard time getting in cause I did lift it. This video put me in a dilemma. Predator bar does look sexy, but the run bar seems much more safer.
When I had my Tacoma, I did not have the steps. On my Tundra, I have the AMP steps. I like that they are hidden when not in use
Seems a lot of people like those. They are a great idea👍
I’m short(5’4) and soon as possible they’re goin on my truck!
Sounds like a good idea to me👍👍
More than the sill, if you are straining to get in your truck and then sort of slide to get out, you're going to tear up you seats!
In which case the step bar is needed. Especially when you do get a bit older.
Steps definitely help. 👍
I call them lady steps. I also agree with you, Rob, the truck looks better without them.
It does..but they’re handy😬
One thing is for sure: if you're tall you don't need them side steps, but if you're short, yes you need them specially if you're like me with hip surgery.
For sure! They’re in the way if you’re vertically cursed😬
Nice videos as always. I know this is an old video, but I wanted ti ask, what is the percentage of the tint on the red Taco?
20% if I recall.
I agree with your gripe about no grab handle on the driver side of the truck.... I have some very foul language about that issue...😡...could it be because of the SRS?
Who knows why? Makes no sense to me🤔
They don’t but I have a little one it’s just for her
my 2023 ofroad is stock and i feel like i slide on to the seat with no step and i dont like that i think i need a step to get up and sit straight on not slide on to the seat from the side
2002 regular cab but same height as the crew,5'5" and always had to hop a bit ,seats have held up at 400k just getting them mainly for looks but hoping they're more useful than annoying.Westin round tube design.Had new truck fever but got over it,shooting for 500k
Nice👍
I got the same ones you have I don’t use mine to get in but my wife needs to use them , i only use them to dry off the roof comes in handy.
I use mine just because they’re there I think!! Would come in handy for reaching the roof though👍
I'm only getting these to prevent seat damage from having people sliding in and out of the seat
Good idea...but you may find they’ll slide out anyway🤔
@@RobMotive that's true 🤔..could be
Well I hope not! Hopefully they’ll solve the problem 👍
@@RobMotive thanks!
Well. I need them due to a leg injury and my wife needs them because she is slightly vertically challenged. Lol. Took delivery of a 2023 TRD Sport double cab with six foot bed last week. Looking at options now.
Gotta have ‘em if you need ‘em👍
I need it for my kids
Yup...that’s really the one situation where they are a must have...especially if you’re lifted👍
I think is more for looks then functionality
To each their own but, I've never had side steps and I never will.
I can understand that. I go back and forth myself🤔
They help when people open their doors into your truck especially on windy days no dents
I can see where they might prevent dings and dents..but it really depends on the angle of the vehicle next to you. 🤔
U just saved me some money I will not buy it thanks
My tundra came with the predator from the dealership to. Quickly took them off and sold them to gear. Put more of a running board like yours on. I'm at the age I want function over sexy!👍
The wider running boards are more functional for sure. However...I may be making a change......
I’m 6’ 2” my feet have never touched the running boards on the Tundra, my wife 5’ 2” wouldn’t be able to get in without them. Because I hate chrome mine are black and impossible to keep clean would rather not have them at all.
That’s another good point...given where they are they get filthy fast! Just one more thing to clean!!🤔
LOL 90 is a cool day here in Phoenix Arizona, it was 115 2 days ago!
But do you get hurricanes😬
Great video. This is a daily debate for me 😂
I know the feeling!! At the moment I’m pro step!!!!!🤔
@@RobMotive Rock Sliders or nothing
Funny that I should come across your video, as I was actually looking for Nerf Steps for my 2014 (2nd gen) Tacoma. After watching the video, I decided to remove my OEM running board and sell it on Facebook or Craig's List. Ill leave the truck without a step, and just use the money from the OEM running board towards a lift kit. Makes more sense to me. (I'm 5' 4", and I can care less if I need to take a bigger step up. Who cares)?
Lol! Sounds great to me👍
I’d like to think I have the best of both worlds. I have complete clearance on my lifted Tundra for when I’m off road, but then I have them when I’m ready to get in and out of the Tundra as well. “Amp Research Steps” are the way to go if you want them but don’t want them too. 😁
The electric version is the best of both worlds. I wonder how reliable they are and if they ever freeze in winter?
RobMotive , Great question and here’s my answer. My brother has now had them for 9 years on his Ram. He has them in sub freezing temps all the time, he lives in Montana, where it gets very cold at times. Never an issue. That’s why I decided to go that route myself. They are proven. And I love the lock feature, when you want to wash them, just deploy them out apply light weight on them with your foot and close the door. They stay down for you to wash. Then just open your door to reset and they retract back up into the storage position. It would be a great Mod video too, you know, for the channel! 👍🏻
Good to know. I would have thought ice frozen around them would stop them from going down.
RobMotive not an issue, unless your arse deep in it then. 😁 but even then you can put in an over ride switch that prevents them from deploying out. Plus, get this Rob, if you research them you’ll see the company offers a 5 year warranty! That’s just unheard of! They stand behind their product.
The steps/boards are not just for getting in and out - and while "I don't need them" may be true, my elderly mother with a bad hip certainly would find them helpful when we're going someplace together in the Tacoma. Customization to myself is fine, but accommodation of the other people in my life is also something to consider. The boards are much more helpful when putting kayaks or other gear up on the roof and securing them there. Without boards, you have to open all the doors, and get up and down and walk around those doors while tensioning your straps, etc. And the flat boards are much better for this than the specific step-style.
Sounds good to me👍
Might help avoid door dings in a parking lot, i could see someone banging into the step rather than the door.
Yup! I agree👍
My legs are short and I'm fat so I need them to climb that factory lift.
have the same Predator steps on my 4Runner. I'm 6' and use them... it's easier getting in and out using the steps, I have no grab handle. yeah, I could manage fine without them but they do make it easier to get in. I put my right foot on the step, plant my butt in the seat, then swing my legs in.
I’m surprised at 6’ tall they’re not in your way. Is your truck lifted?
@@RobMotive not in the way at all, I could easily step over them. I'm just used to it, every truck I've owned had side steps/running boards.
the 4Runner isn't lifted.
Might not need them but Tacoma’s look way better with, than without ..
I’m torn. I like them with and without🤔
I have those on my Tacoma (2020) and feel they will get caught on during offroad trails.
I'm thinking about replacing them with rock sliders or Tyger rails the difference is frame (rock sliders) vs the chassis mounted.
Opinions?
Thanks for the helpful videos ✌
Absolutely! If you’ll be on trails that are rough, tight or have deep ruts then sliders are for you👍
Ihave rock sliders and they definitely get in the way, i can get in but y wifes short and would definitely need a step to make it easier for her
Your assessments are spot on a usual Rob. I ordered the 5” wide plain style IBoard only because there seems to be an unfinished look and the suspension rail that shows clutters up the look from the side view anyway. I’m 5’7” and about 165lbs and get in and out easily so I don’t really need them. It’s more aesthetics than anything. Since you’ve had 4 Tacoma’s, in general was there anything general that you liked or preferred more about the previous two Tacos? Thanks in advance Rob.
The first couple I had seemed more powerful/peppy. Other than that they’ve really not changed a ton👍
A side step that is also a rock slider is the best of both worlds and bolt to your frame and not your cab which if hit hard could damage your door sills . A bit more pricey but could save you a lot in the long run.
I agree. Best way to go👍
Hey Rob ,I have the shark running boards on my Tacoma pro ,only use I get from them is stepping up to wash the top of truck and keep people from opening doors causing dings and dents also stuff off roads flying up on sides of truck causing chips etc...
Can’t think of what those are offhand. I’ll have to look them up👍
@robmotive you can add them from factory just like the predator steps on your Tacoma
Very cool👍
That is the same steps that I have on my Tacoma .
I'm only 5-4 I never use it getting in or out of the truck the only gripe I have is my shins lol they kill them
Lol!! I’ve had a few people skip off of them! They can be painful 😬
I'm 6' 1" and don't need them, but my short wife and grandson need them.
Yup, I can see that👍
I need my side steps, I'm 5'5 they make it easier to get in the truck since it doesn't have a grab handle. Also, I have a double cab with a 6' bed so I bought the steps that have an extra one to be able to climb into the bed of the truck.
Those extended steps for the bed would be nice. I usually step on the top of the tire to get in the bed😬
@@RobMotive ,The extra step is nice to be able to get something that is right up by the cab of the truck.
Side step come in handy for children, shorter people and elders... if vehicles don’t need side steps, then why do they make them? Personally, I went with the Amp Research Powersteps for my Tundra. Love it when they fold down when getting in the truck. Then folds up for maximum clearance, like if there are no side steps. Kinda pricey, but I really like them.
The Amps are prob the best alternative. I prefer a nice smooth look👍
I have them on my Tacoma because my wife told me she's need them LOL and she does use them. I'm 6'1" and never use them.
I need them due to disability. Very, very bad back injury. I’m looking for that Goldilocks zone that balances actual usefulness vs. aesthetics.
Gotta have what you need for sure👍
@@RobMotive while you’re here I’d love your opinion on another Tacoma upgrade I’m looking for.
I need a really good leather or vinyl seat cover. Like, just the seat. I don’t need one that covers the entire bucket seat. The slick surface helps me slide into and out of my older vehicle (an old reliable Corolla), and I need something similar for my Tacoma. My Corolla came with leather but I definitely don’t want to spend the $400 or more for leather Tacoma seat covers. Thanks!
Afraid I can’t help you. I’m not a big fan of seat covers and have never had any.
I’m 5 2 and I definitely have to have them. With my stock 2021 TRD off-road and my seat jacked up I slide out of them and when I got in without them on I had to use the steering wheel for grip.
Oh I bet! They come in very handy👍👍
My wife begs to differ... plus they look good on the taco
what for? I have a 4Runner with factory side steps.
When do I use them? NEVER.
Even when I need to wash the moon roof, I step on the door seal.
If you have a 6-12" lift sure, but factory --- no.
Yup..that’s the thing. If it’s factory they are really just in the way.
This is a terrible take. My truck DOES need them, as my kid's can't get in unassisted without them. Also, I'm 6'1, and I use them to load my roof rack at times, Maybe your truck doesn't need them, but it's really a terrible generalization to say they aren't needed.
Jared Hudson i have slider/steps and my kids hate using them. Theyre 7&11. They say its more fun getting in and out not using the steps & that steps are only for old people 😂
@@johnbradley2016 Gotcha... my oldest is 4... and she can't get in on her own without them... and I FOR SURE ain't gonna start lifting them up every time. lol.
Seems this is a polarizing topic!! I can go either way really. However, if the truck isn’t lifted (and you don’t have little kids😁) I think they are just in the way.
Funny today did a trail in Utah and I always know my steps give me less ground clearance the front passenger one got crushed pretty bad and then later on the trail hit on a rock and it fell. Definitely going to take them off.
Ouch! Time for them to go😬
Some people are saying that the door frame can be bent if the steps get hit too hard while offroading. Tha'ts a frightening thought....I'm planning on removing mine just for this reason.
I got the oem shark running boards on my 3rd gen, but they feel like they just get in the way, the only useful time is when washing the top of the truck. I think I just need to finally remove them.
I know what you mean. No more boards for mine👍
I took mine off a long time ago like 2 weeks into having mine. Shit would just smash my Shin like every day
I don't like the look or function of the predator steps on my Tundra. Came that way, I plan on changing to Nerf bars at some point. My Tundras high enough steps are helpful. Getting out I have to go slowly because I always miss the step.
The wider , flatter boards are the easiest to hit IMO. But I do like the looks of the predators better.
@@RobMotive I have severe back issues and getting in/out of truck can be difficult sometimes. Climbing in they work well, getting out I've slipped a few times. My wife loves them. I live 7 miles from Lake Erie in Pa so I don't need help slipping with the crap weather here in winter. I'm jealous, you've got all 3 of my favorite vehicles. Keep up the great videos.
Rob,
Enjoy your channel . Bought my second Tacoma , a 2019 this past fall. Sold my 2011 with 50,000 miles to a nephew. Didn’t notice the 2019 has a much higher bed than the older 2011. Wished I noticed that before I bought it. I find it’s harder to reach into the new bed to retrieve things as well as crawl into the back of the bed as this Tacoma is also higher. Don’t think the new one is raised. . Do you notice if Toyota raised the height of the two model years between the 2011-2019?
Thanks,
David Watson
They get larger and higher with every generation. Not surprised the new one is higher .
But It's look better
I’m short and my ass wore out the front drivers side seat on my 2009 just like half the ones I’ve seen. I have to get a set for my new to me 2021.
Just bought a new TRD off road and I’m taking them off. Not a fan of any steps/bars.
It does look better without IMO👍
I’m not a huge fan of side steps but my kids have a hard time getting in so I’m thinking about getting some.
Yup…Gotta take care of the little ones👍
I’m going to get them for my wife lol they look cool and if I get em I will have a XP predator package clone I guess because I don’t have the badges lol I have the wheels the black exhaust tip the black overlays and the tires the Dura tracks I got my 16 inch TRD wheels today but they didn’t come with the center caps so I have to go back to the dealership tomorrow and I think that’s when I’m gonna get a predator step bars lol thanks Rob I wanted to see someone getting in out the truck with them and you killed lol thanks for all the videos keep em coming
Well after watching your video and more videos on CZcams lol I’m going to hold off on side steps for now maybe after I get trd lift kit
My Tacoma had the same steps as your tundra, i removed them the first week i had the truck. I can get in and out of the Tacoma way easier with no steps at all! the entrance door of the Tacoma is too short, when you step up on the running board your looking all the way over the top of truck and have to squat down and into the truck. also i do a lot of off road overland use and side steps will get you hung up off road...for me the Tacoma is way better with no steps. (i got some for sale cheap!!)
Yup...I’d agree. Not good for off-road for sure. They are good for reaching across the roof though. I bet especially useful if you’re running a roof rack👍
@@RobMotive i have a roof rack, i just open the door and stand on the door jam now. But your right, they also do look better with no steps i thanks.
I know it’s a very subjective matter, but I feel that lifted or not, no side steps ever ever. Use real rock rails if you are going off road, but it defeats the purpose of adding height by then putting extra edges and metal in the way if you add it back with steps. I’m 5’ 7” and have a lifted Tundra and lifted 4Runner and my wife and I get in and out of both fine using either the grab handle or the steering wheel. My 7 yr. old daughter can hop up fine too using a grab strap. My wife also hates them as they hit the back of her pants when getting it and out at work. If you pull in to my local off road shop with a lifted truck and side steps, you better be prepared for them to be getting the wrenches out immediately to remove them.
I’ve thought that myself. Kinda like going with an offset on the wheels and then putting on fender flares🤔
Don't agree. I like mine. They look neat.
I’m 4’11” and I need those to get in my truck with a 6” lift 😂
Certainly would help👍
They’re literally just for looks. They can get you stuck. If you buy one with these side steps, take them off and get real rock sliders. You won’t regret it. I got stuck off-roading with my side steps
Depends on your needs I suppose 🤔
I'm Asian and my wife is short, I definitely need side rail......
Always gotta go with what suits your needs👍
Just bought a 2022 Tacoma 3 weeks ago and it came with these steps on, I don't need them and was wondering if I took it off would I have to fill the holes in with something or would just putting the bolts back in place prevent any issues like rust or wouldn't that happen?
They come with plastic inserts if there are no steps. I’d just put the bolts back in if your concerned👍
@@RobMotive Okay thank you!!
Steps are for lifted trucks where it matters. Otherwise you're correct. But now it's a fad, like pogs.
Steps are a no brainier, unless you want to your seat look like a worn out whoopee cushion from sliding off of it. That SR5 is a prime example of what happens to the seat from smashing it entering and exiting.
Depends on your height I suppose. 🤔
oh, adding shackles, either yellow or red