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  • čas přidán 10. 03. 2024
  • After graduating from college in 1965, Robert Ferguson enlisted in the United States Marine Corps to escape the draft. Ferguson completed Officers Candidate School, but was rejected from flight training due to poor depth perception. Instead, he trained as a radar operator and deployed to Vietnam in 1966, completed seventy combat missions in seven months. He was then reassigned as a Forward Air Controller (FAC) to coordinate air support in the field. In 1967, Ferguson was severely burned when an armored vehicle detonated an explosive device. He was evacuated and spent the remainder of his military career recovering in various hospitals in Japan and the United States.

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  • @markwestervelt9708
    @markwestervelt9708 Před 5 měsíci +32007

    My dad was a platoon sergeant in Korea. He told me he would never put a new guy on point. Never. Only a coward squad leader would do that.

    • @markwestervelt9708
      @markwestervelt9708 Před 5 měsíci +2929

      Not all squad leaders put new guys up for slaughter. He made it sound like they all did that in Vietnam Maybe that was the thing to do in Vietnam.my dad said doing that was like putting the new guys in charge. Sick. Squad leaders were cowards sending these guys to their death so they can live. Sad. Bad. Leadership.

    • @SemperSalam
      @SemperSalam Před 5 měsíci +776

      This seems to be something more common in nam than other conflicts.

    • @markwestervelt9708
      @markwestervelt9708 Před 5 měsíci +1071

      @@SemperSalam last thing I’ll say is my dad said that the most important job of any leadership is to protect and defend your men at any cost. That includes the new guys who didn’t have any experience in battle. I agree. I guess it was a nam thing.

    • @dachicagoan8185
      @dachicagoan8185 Před 5 měsíci +116

      Yeah right! Everyone put newbies in front, don't cap

    • @mr.pissedoff1903
      @mr.pissedoff1903 Před 5 měsíci +517

      @@dachicagoan8185There’s multiple people in the comments who served in Nam saying you never put a new guy on point.

  • @marcblank3036
    @marcblank3036 Před 5 měsíci +10127

    What a crap way to treat those without experience.

    • @rjacosta1070
      @rjacosta1070 Před 5 měsíci +85

      That guy telling that story has to live with that image bet he can still the FNG,

    • @marcblank3036
      @marcblank3036 Před 5 měsíci +110

      @@rjacosta1070 he was the new guy too at some point and was lucky. Surely he has plenty of other stuff that brings him nightmares. I can imagine a lot of names on the memorial in Washington DC are extras due to this use of the inexperienced guys and the policies of sending inapt individuals to this complex conflict situation in SEA.

    • @MrStaybrown
      @MrStaybrown Před 5 měsíci +34

      I'm sure they all said I Don't Want Point..put the new guy up there.

    • @Hiberno_sperg
      @Hiberno_sperg Před 5 měsíci +151

      The boomer generation lacked any sort of discipline.

    • @losttranslation8766
      @losttranslation8766 Před 5 měsíci

      ​@@marcblank3036Vietnam was one of those wars where they needed numbers so they took anyone including those that didn't have the IQ to be consider fit to serve so knowing that yeah it's a fucken travesty that's how they were treated.

  • @dannyjones3840
    @dannyjones3840 Před 3 měsíci +1010

    As a retired Marine, this is pretty fucking sad. You never put a new guy in a position where he can fail and kill himself. Should've had an experienced guy train him. Nope- y'all just let him kill himself.

    • @markwestervelt9708
      @markwestervelt9708 Před 2 měsíci +19

      Exactly. Well said.

    • @larrydanadavid2435
      @larrydanadavid2435 Před měsícem +1

      War is hell

    • @markwestervelt9708
      @markwestervelt9708 Před měsícem +3

      Thank you for your service. Well said. 👍

    • @Sloppyszz
      @Sloppyszz Před měsícem +10

      @@larrydanadavid2435true but that doesn’t stop a more experienced person from taking point as the new guy gets experience

    • @smiley12396
      @smiley12396 Před měsícem

      ​@@larrydanadavid2435yeah but in hell there is no innocents

  • @TheBLOODSOAKED666
    @TheBLOODSOAKED666 Před 3 měsíci +125

    As an infantry veteran, I feel like he’s hiding a sense of enjoyment that a new guy bit it instead of the people who knew how to disarm the mine. It’s unusual.

    • @Victorseafog
      @Victorseafog Před 26 dny

      this dude is a low life

    • @dethmedic52
      @dethmedic52 Před 22 dny +8

      As a prior EOD my jaw hit the fuggin floor. This is not how you treat fresh blood.

    • @shiznit9142
      @shiznit9142 Před 15 dny +9

      I literally just left the same comment before reading yours! Something is VERY off about how he's discussing such a tragic memory....

    • @garretrasmussen5253
      @garretrasmussen5253 Před 13 dny +9

      Yeah he doesn’t give a fuck for sure probably one of the dudes who encouraged that shit.

    • @carlosrodrigues1641
      @carlosrodrigues1641 Před 8 dny

      Gambling on the kid

  • @Floridaman1780_
    @Floridaman1780_ Před 4 měsíci +19685

    His platoon put the cherries on point? Tell me your unit's leadership sucks without actually saying it.

    • @ebikefe
      @ebikefe Před 4 měsíci +112

      ​@@Pappy214That really sucks..😐😐😐

    • @LordPapula
      @LordPapula Před 4 měsíci +610

      Another way would be to say things like “well, it’s a numbers game…”

    • @glenclarkchidley3637
      @glenclarkchidley3637 Před 4 měsíci +730

      The ultimate act of cowardice… sending a kid to do a man’s job!!!
      Guarantee he has lived this cowards life ever since.

    • @simplyyellow6240
      @simplyyellow6240 Před 4 měsíci +84

      @@Pappy214 when was the last time american have guts?

    • @ld7599
      @ld7599 Před 4 měsíci +146

      in the airborne, leaders jump first

  • @HateIncarnate
    @HateIncarnate Před 4 měsíci +2453

    "Recruitment is down and we have no idea why"

    • @rollinsomethingbutiforgot
      @rollinsomethingbutiforgot Před 4 měsíci +107

      "The enemy is beating us with only sandals and aks and we don't know why"

    • @kellykilts6297
      @kellykilts6297 Před 4 měsíci +30

      Recruiting is down because of who is in the Whitehouse.

    • @rollinsomethingbutiforgot
      @rollinsomethingbutiforgot Před 4 měsíci +82

      @@kellykilts6297 you missed the joke and we don't know why

    • @felixmadison5736
      @felixmadison5736 Před 4 měsíci +7

      Recruitment was down and that's why we have always had the draft. Even the marines were drafting during the Vietnam War.

    • @felixmadison5736
      @felixmadison5736 Před 4 měsíci +6

      @@kellykilts6297 Yes, when Tricky Dick Nixon was in Paris Peace Talks, we had cease fires, but the Vietnamese didn't.

  • @MonBerry
    @MonBerry Před 3 měsíci +433

    So they intentionally sacrificed a kid with no experience. What a bunch of cowards

  • @debrapalmer9772
    @debrapalmer9772 Před 3 měsíci +331

    That new kid saved this guy's life. He should be respectful not disparaging.

    • @ajg8722
      @ajg8722 Před 3 měsíci +51

      Boomers man

    • @laggismaximus
      @laggismaximus Před 3 měsíci +13

      He's not being disrespectful....he's being matter of fact.

    • @Lemon_Sage9999
      @Lemon_Sage9999 Před 2 měsíci

      ​@@laggismaximus he said things that were factual. He's an irreverent pig nonetheless 👎

    • @abdou.the.heretic
      @abdou.the.heretic Před 2 měsíci +27

      ​@@laggismaximuskwoomp, very respectful.

    • @jamesbumgardner1469
      @jamesbumgardner1469 Před 2 měsíci +6

      ​@@laggismaximuseverything is a micro aggression to this new generation

  • @boosty458
    @boosty458 Před 4 měsíci +1870

    “It’s a numbers game” when you’re talking about your own comrades life is insane

    • @ToyotaTechnical
      @ToyotaTechnical Před 4 měsíci +91

      That's what you get with conscription and consumer society.

    • @magoomba1954
      @magoomba1954 Před 4 měsíci +11

      a game i don't want to play

    • @magicjohnson3121
      @magicjohnson3121 Před 4 měsíci +33

      The reality of war.

    • @boosty458
      @boosty458 Před 4 měsíci +38

      @@magicjohnson3121 I can say obvious condescending things too

    • @krabz9390
      @krabz9390 Před 4 měsíci +21

      It's a 18 year old conscript. WTF was he supposed to do.....

  • @kelsiewilson
    @kelsiewilson Před 5 měsíci +10612

    So, they intentionally sacrificed a kid with no experience. Great guys.

    • @Volundur9567
      @Volundur9567 Před 4 měsíci +201

      Sounds about right

    • @alphaomega1351
      @alphaomega1351 Před 4 měsíci +64

      Well, at least he's with sweet zombie 🧟‍♂️ jesus in the clouds ⛅️ now. 😳

    • @michaeld4326
      @michaeld4326 Před 4 měsíci +329

      I know you think it's funny to Mock Jesus until you run into him in this life at which point you'll feel terrible for it. The Bible isn't just all head knowledge it's a completely different life one lives as a Christian once the Holy Spirit comes to them.

    • @georgek2574
      @georgek2574 Před 4 měsíci +146

      @@alphaomega1351wow so brave and enlightened you are….

    • @boldmarines
      @boldmarines Před 4 měsíci +19

      Not Exactly…. Call it seniority…. Call it ‘your time in the barrel’…. Everybody ends up at Point sooner or later…. It’s usually volunteers…. It’s part of the Cohesiveness of Infantry Platoons/Squads/Fireteams…. Any grunt with ANY combat experience knows that… SFMF

  • @Supreme_Saltine
    @Supreme_Saltine Před 3 měsíci +57

    Usually these guys are like “bothers me still” this guy “yep it’s a numbers game”

    • @slopcrusher3482
      @slopcrusher3482 Před 20 dny +4

      Everyone has a different coping mechanism. He probably just chocked it up to bad luck and tried his hardest not to think too deeply about it.

  • @Ram-vt3rm
    @Ram-vt3rm Před 3 měsíci +81

    This guy is reminiscing like he’s telling the story to the VC at the local Ho Chi Ming bar. Where is the remorse, sadness, anger, regret, etc etc. All we get is a nonchalant story full of smirks and proud storytelling.

    • @elijahmutter7394
      @elijahmutter7394 Před měsícem +2

      I'm sorry, is an event that happened over 50 years ago supposed to constantly tear you down? Maybe if you are weak. It's called coping, learn to do it some time

    • @Ram-vt3rm
      @Ram-vt3rm Před měsícem +3

      @@elijahmutter7394 Sir, do not get offended on the internet. Maybe if you are weak. It’s called coping, learn to do it some time.

    • @elijahmutter7394
      @elijahmutter7394 Před měsícem

      @Ram-vt3rm lmfao is that the best you got? Literally copying my own statement to you lol. The fact you made your first comment proves you got upset you weak minded individual lol

    • @angkhoanguyen6114
      @angkhoanguyen6114 Před 27 dny

      *Hồ Chí Minh

    • @cjcoleman3893
      @cjcoleman3893 Před 21 dnem +2

      Wow real smart having a brand new soldier disarm a mine. Id call that incompetence. You need an EOD or someone with experience in de mining not just send the new idiot at the problem. Incompetent leadership got your guy killed and you seemed pretty casual about it

  • @lewishamilton9577
    @lewishamilton9577 Před 4 měsíci +4284

    This is a good reason to not just blindly respect and trust your elders.
    Not all are deserving of it.

    • @JK360noscope
      @JK360noscope Před 4 měsíci +173

      It's why guys got fragged

    • @brandocalrissian3294
      @brandocalrissian3294 Před 4 měsíci +30

      ​@@JK360noscopeexactly.

    • @XDaddyBender
      @XDaddyBender Před 4 měsíci +193

      He is so cold and matter a fact about it, he even sounded like it was kinda funny to him.

    • @NinjaSushi2
      @NinjaSushi2 Před 4 měsíci +81

      Men like this run out country now.
      Yes I know it's "our." Welcome to auto correct. I refuse to change it. Fix it in your brain. Lol

    • @willrose5424
      @willrose5424 Před 4 měsíci +3

      Best comment of March award! 🏅

  • @prestoni
    @prestoni Před 5 měsíci +3071

    We tried to avoid sending FNGs as points because they didn't have the experience to detect anomalies..sad your unit threw them out as fodder

    • @user-il1bc7zk8p
      @user-il1bc7zk8p Před 5 měsíci +8

      Everybody get back now f.ng on the seen

    • @theazsecondamendmentaudit7239
      @theazsecondamendmentaudit7239 Před 5 měsíci +21

      Kinda what I was thinking

    • @Gameprojordan
      @Gameprojordan Před 5 měsíci +263

      Now I fully understand why fragging was so common in the Vietnam War. The leadership in that conflict was beyond sinister

    • @CastleHassall
      @CastleHassall Před 4 měsíci +48

      i was thinking the same as the original post on this.. it sounds like they purposefully sacrificed them, and maybe even didn't even need to disarm that mine!, when they should have been mentoring them

    • @mikehayes5167
      @mikehayes5167 Před 4 měsíci +114

      No emotion while telling that. Either he is just telling "war stories" or he is a sociopath with no feelings

  • @peterescalante1207
    @peterescalante1207 Před 3 měsíci +84

    This man is devoid of any humanity even after all these years. Imagine what it was like not only serving with him but being in the same family or working with him. The very definition of a monster.

    • @johnstuartsmith
      @johnstuartsmith Před měsícem +5

      He'd been a new guy himself, just like everybody else. A few months of being in the field didn't make people experts at disarming mines and booby traps.

    • @KP-w4gu
      @KP-w4gu Před 27 dny +2

      It's in his eyes

    • @Bootymcbuttstuff2
      @Bootymcbuttstuff2 Před 22 dny

      Peter this is your opinion not a definition of this mans character

    • @Breezyy906
      @Breezyy906 Před 17 dny +1

      ​@johnstuartsmith you can research it. Units didn't deplay and go on leave together. In your unit at one time you have an experience range of 1 week to possibly 2 years (on tour in country) if you think none of those veterans didn't know how or what to do and thought sending the 1 week guy was the right thing to do then you're wrong

    • @johnstuartsmith
      @johnstuartsmith Před 17 dny +1

      @@Breezyy906 I did research it personally back in 1968 and 1969. I got to be the one week guy sent on a point squad , also a 2 month and a 3 month guy sent on point squads carrying the radio. By the time I was a 48 week guy, I wasn't going outside the wire if I could avoid it, but that didn't stop me from getting wounded when NVA sappers swarmed through the wire by our section of the basecamp perimeter. Being on a point squad was dangerous. Carrying a radio was dangerous, as was just being in Vietnam doing anything.

  • @michaelfae
    @michaelfae Před 3 měsíci +44

    I'm not sure a "thank you for your service" is deserved here.

    • @finnishyank7413
      @finnishyank7413 Před měsícem +2

      It's not

    • @elijahmutter7394
      @elijahmutter7394 Před měsícem

      ​@finnishyank7413 yall don't understand that the man telling the story, isn't the squad leader. He never had any say over what the poor new guys got told to do.

    • @finnishyank7413
      @finnishyank7413 Před měsícem

      @@elijahmutter7394 I know he didn't order the kid but his utter emotionless reaction to retelling the story and almost glee at what happened is sickening.

    • @elijahmutter7394
      @elijahmutter7394 Před měsícem

      @finnishyank7413 if that's how you feel, you're just a weak minded individual then.

  • @timalley3906
    @timalley3906 Před 4 měsíci +3732

    WWII vets talking about new guys getting killed: literally on the verge of tears even 80 years later
    Vietnam vets talking about sending an 18 year old with no experience to disarm a mine: "kawoomp! it's a numbers game"

    • @yingsnnn808
      @yingsnnn808 Před 4 měsíci +52

      Yeah

    • @samuelspiel8855
      @samuelspiel8855 Před 4 měsíci +589

      Boomers

    • @fishhuntadventure
      @fishhuntadventure Před 4 měsíci +95

      The lack of wisdom and unawareness of context in your comment is disturbing.
      Never mind the logic fallacy of stating two things as if they were true and drawing conclusions from it.

    • @Diedwhilemakingwaffles
      @Diedwhilemakingwaffles Před 4 měsíci +39

      Everyone reacts differently

    • @chromicm6686
      @chromicm6686 Před 4 měsíci +321

      ​@@samuelspiel8855The worst generation

  • @The_Honcho
    @The_Honcho Před 5 měsíci +5678

    Imagine setting up new guys to get killed and casually talking about it 50 something years later

  • @CringeComedyTV
    @CringeComedyTV Před 3 měsíci +265

    No emotion. No regret. No remorse. No sympathy. No blinking. Dude is a Sociopath. Very dangerous.

    • @Jhu_-cz4nj
      @Jhu_-cz4nj Před 3 měsíci +34

      Yeah, seeing traumatic shit for a year or two and getting about 50 years to cope with it will do that. Sociopath is not the proper word. A war survivor is the proper term.

    • @ChiquitaSpeaks
      @ChiquitaSpeaks Před 3 měsíci +8

      @@Jhu_-cz4nj idk man he’s got more likes than you I don’t think it’s possible for him to be wrong 🫠

    • @Jhu_-cz4nj
      @Jhu_-cz4nj Před 3 měsíci +7

      @@ChiquitaSpeaks You're right, I concede.

    • @zombiekila187
      @zombiekila187 Před 3 měsíci +12

      I think sociopathic is the wrong word to point out his expression. He seems to to be coming off more stoic if anything, im sure it’s made him think like “fuck, that’s fucked up”. Although I believe going through war can desensitize you in a way and make you look at brutality as nothing more then adversity. I do believe this man took many years of thinking and dwelling and him accepting it as “the sad truth” is what’s telling that he isn’t a sociopath otherwise he would of smirked at least or made a joke out of it.

    • @empollonamericano328
      @empollonamericano328 Před 3 měsíci

      @@ChiquitaSpeaksinteresting mindset right there 😂

  • @nickwaynick6886
    @nickwaynick6886 Před 2 měsíci +20

    My Dad was a WWII vet and he dispised most Vietnam vets because of shit like this. He really hated their drug use while fighting.

  • @mauserwaffen982
    @mauserwaffen982 Před 4 měsíci +692

    Maybe if you had taken the time and shown the new guy how to disarm the mine, he'd still be alive.

    • @odst2247
      @odst2247 Před 4 měsíci +6

      Numbers game, eventually you're going to get someone who messes up.

    • @macman975
      @macman975 Před 4 měsíci +7

      Well, I guess he disarmed the mine.

    • @Nosliw837
      @Nosliw837 Před 4 měsíci +12

      ​@@macman975more like the mine dis-armed him tho

    • @domosrage5434
      @domosrage5434 Před 4 měsíci +40

      @@odst2247the thing about number games is theres usually a way to affect how those numbers add up. Statistics and common sense will tell you that someone with more experience with a task is far less likely to fail than someone who's seeing it for the first time. Numbers.

    • @odst2247
      @odst2247 Před 4 měsíci +2

      @INERAZAR doesn't matter. It's war. Men are going to make mistakes.doesnt matter how good you are

  • @user-fg3pf8wy5i
    @user-fg3pf8wy5i Před 5 měsíci +5446

    Sounds like lack of leadership

    • @lonniesides9302
      @lonniesides9302 Před 5 měsíci +9

      The.Leadership were being decimated

    • @MicahNstuff
      @MicahNstuff Před 5 měsíci +87

      @@lonniesides9302probably by their own men. This guys LT was probably friendly fired.

    • @ronaldkonkoma4356
      @ronaldkonkoma4356 Před 4 měsíci +7

      I'm not doing it. Send the new guy!

    • @boathemian7694
      @boathemian7694 Před 4 měsíci +11

      I knew guys like this in the Marines. Not surprising.

    • @-John-Doe-
      @-John-Doe- Před 4 měsíci +17

      @@MicahNstuff He was an LT.
      He states the new engineer was highly qualified.
      The interview was about arriving in country, and how quickly the enemy adapted, rendering their training obsolete.
      Just prior in the interview he explains his arrival in country, and his men correcting him on his orders - because his orders were based on his training.

  • @jrsmith1998
    @jrsmith1998 Před měsícem +16

    That sucks so bad. Arriving to vietnam only for your family to get the news that you have been killed in battle after only 1 week

  • @c.o.d.b.l.u2675
    @c.o.d.b.l.u2675 Před 2 měsíci +9

    The way he tallked about the fella who made the ultimate sacrifice was disgusting. Rest In Peace to that warrior.

  • @pyme495
    @pyme495 Před 4 měsíci +296

    My uncle is a VietNam veteran. He doesn't talk much about it, but since I am a retired veteran myself, sometimes him and I will talk. He said that he always took point by choice. His thinking was that if he was going to get killed, it was going to be because of something he did, not that he died because of something that somebody else did wrong.
    He would've never put the new guy up front.

    • @arogueburrito
      @arogueburrito Před 4 měsíci +9

      he is a tough man. wants the credit if it's good or bad, not gonna tolerate these weak "leaders." Respect.

    • @jackbrady9738
      @jackbrady9738 Před 4 měsíci +2

      Nailed the right mindset.

    • @TheBlackzman
      @TheBlackzman Před 4 měsíci +2

      Nice

  • @mrwolf750
    @mrwolf750 Před 4 měsíci +2884

    I bet that kid wasn't the son of a politician or wealthy person.

    • @nelsonstrickland8813
      @nelsonstrickland8813 Před 4 měsíci +76

      Ccr sang bout this kind of stuff..

    • @daxware603
      @daxware603 Před 4 měsíci +244

      He definitely ain’t no senator’s son.

    • @zanerichter3806
      @zanerichter3806 Před 4 měsíci +196

      Ain’t no fortunate son

    • @mrwolf750
      @mrwolf750 Před 4 měsíci +75

      @@daxware603No fortunate one for sure.

    • @blueberrymcphuckerson9821
      @blueberrymcphuckerson9821 Před 4 měsíci +66

      Oh yeah. Most Vietnam War Soldiers were poor and middle-class. The more wealthy classes were able to afford someone else going in their childrens' places, buy excuses, or via nepotism get sweet cushy safe military positions.

  • @suffolkmike1
    @suffolkmike1 Před 2 měsíci +7

    Friend of mine was new in country and he was shot by sniper while walking point. First bullet hit him behind his left eye and came out his right eye. 2nd bullet hit him in the jaw. His buddies shot the sniper out of the tree. Jimmy survived but was totally blind at 19 years old. He was a huge baseball fan and played every year growing up. The city of Huntington Wv named the baseball field he played on after him. It's called Jimmy Walker field.

  • @OCRay1
    @OCRay1 Před 3 měsíci +10

    When my dad was within a few weeks of going home he said he didn’t want new guys around him at all on missions

  • @jonpender
    @jonpender Před 4 měsíci +1696

    This guy was a failure as a leader. He sacrificed his rookies.

    • @NinjaSushi2
      @NinjaSushi2 Před 4 měsíci +143

      Men like this run out country now.

    • @justadummy8076
      @justadummy8076 Před 4 měsíci +1

      @@NinjaSushi2men like this have BEEN running the country, for ages, it’s not new

    • @leftifornian2066
      @leftifornian2066 Před 4 měsíci +11

      Saved himse😂lf

    • @juanshaftpatel7488
      @juanshaftpatel7488 Před 4 měsíci

      youre a waste that got saved... looka t you

    • @floof6896
      @floof6896 Před 4 měsíci

      ​@@leftifornian2066big coward

  • @scotthollars1555
    @scotthollars1555 Před 5 měsíci +2069

    I served 6 years and was deployed to Kandahar Afghanistan in 2014. It's unfathomable to me how a group of enlisted soldiers would voluntarily allow the newest in their Platoon to shut off a mine and do that over and over again replacing their head with someone new. Talk about the lack of respect! Your throwing your new guys into a mine field and making the newest step behind the second newest while you all patrol a route that you know was clear. What in the ever living hell. Thats not a soldier that's a fat lard of human waste anyone who would do that.

    • @tiggertigerskip
      @tiggertigerskip Před 4 měsíci +72

      I was in the military & it took me a very long time to understand "point". Why would you put a young newbie out in front? How mean & uncaring! The poor guy prob didn't even know what he was doing? I know it wasn't you who did it, but your Sgt was a jerk!!

    • @scotthollars1555
      @scotthollars1555 Před 4 měsíci +61

      @@tiggertigerskip no no it didn't happen to me or anywhere in my deployment. The video the guy said that's what THEY did.... I just stated how I see it as unfathomable how fucked up that is to send the new guy out as an EOD or 12B

    • @SGobuck
      @SGobuck Před 4 měsíci +33

      ​@@scotthollars1555 there's shitty leadership somewhere, wherever you go. That's the only explanation.

    • @scotthollars1555
      @scotthollars1555 Před 4 měsíci

      @@SGobuck I'm assuming that's probably why we have so much to do after back to base. They check and make sure you haven't got hitlers personal photo album that was sold by a soldier lmfao. We are almost the first in history to where we see soldiers don't take what they want after they fight the battle.... The senators, presidents and important people show up to thank us the day after it's won then give us the middle finger on the way out.. yes shitty leaders everywhere but 90% of the USA cowards run as our senators and Congress not the military.

    • @markwestervelt9708
      @markwestervelt9708 Před 4 měsíci +17

      Exactly. In Korea they trained a squadron of soldiers to be demolition men handling the removal of land mines and other claymores devices.

  • @Zak_How
    @Zak_How Před 2 měsíci +7

    The coldness in which he tells this is psychotic. I've seen a few other of these clips, people from ww2 retell things with tears in their eyes and emotion in their voice. I guess by putting the new guy on mine duty you lost less of the more experienced guys. God what a brutal world.

    • @jamesdykes517
      @jamesdykes517 Před měsícem

      Yeah, but you need the noobs to gain experience too, any true commander puts their own ass on the line to protect their soldiers. Leadership isn't about deferring responsibility, it's about accepting it.

    • @zerophantomyt433
      @zerophantomyt433 Před měsícem

      ​@@jamesdykes517so have them help or watch the guy who knows what he's doing do it first

  • @dappa0000
    @dappa0000 Před měsícem +6

    RIP to all the fallen soldiers !!!

  • @genghispecan
    @genghispecan Před 4 měsíci +1503

    C'mon old timer...you came close to saying it, "better him than me."

    • @hammer6285
      @hammer6285 Před 4 měsíci

      Get the NFG to pull the handle "Its a numbers game after all" POS serial killer.

    • @JayTide
      @JayTide Před 4 měsíci +165

      Of course that's how it is. But putting a newbie on mine detail is barbaric.

    • @jacknguyen5677
      @jacknguyen5677 Před 4 měsíci +21

      Instant section 8

    • @user-dz1rc4wk2t
      @user-dz1rc4wk2t Před 4 měsíci +13

      Shady shady

    • @AgileFlow23
      @AgileFlow23 Před 4 měsíci +21

      Tip of his tongue

  • @samcornwell8645
    @samcornwell8645 Před 3 měsíci +1830

    Any man that would do this to somebody is worse than any enemy. Truly despicable.

    • @gshoots4357
      @gshoots4357 Před 3 měsíci +13

      Landmines are as old as gunpowder and very effective but are they any worse than dropping napalm on whole villages or dropping nukes on cities?

    • @themagnanimous1246
      @themagnanimous1246 Před 3 měsíci +83

      ​@@gshoots4357he's referring to the platoon leader that ordered brand new recruits on point and to disarm land mines.

    • @eltanquedecasma1184
      @eltanquedecasma1184 Před 3 měsíci +9

      @@gshoots4357he’s not talking about the landmines

    • @gshoots4357
      @gshoots4357 Před 3 měsíci +1

      @@themagnanimous1246 So he's saying they should have no scout or get the guys who have already had to have their shifts doing this awful job to do it again?

    • @themagnanimous1246
      @themagnanimous1246 Před 3 měsíci +23

      @@gshoots4357 probably that over some kid with no experience whatsoever, yeah

  • @scottbouchard2673
    @scottbouchard2673 Před 3 měsíci +7

    I don’t wanna die, let’s put the new guy out there. This just shows how they didn’t give a damn about anyone but themselves.

  • @prokhor_zakharov
    @prokhor_zakharov Před měsícem +3

    With leadership like this, it's no wonder we lost the war.

  • @ecampos325
    @ecampos325 Před 5 měsíci +2567

    My dad was a point man in Vietnam, he survived the war but he was absent in my life i can't imagine what he had to go through only to come back to the U.S. and be treated like garbage by his own country upon returning. He was a bad alcoholic and died of colon cancer in August of 2013.

    • @ROLLIN-DUB
      @ROLLIN-DUB Před 5 měsíci +72

      As well as my Dad and Uncle RIP

    • @swagbear9965
      @swagbear9965 Před 5 měsíci +80

      Respect to your father. I’m sorry he was absent in your life. My grandfather was a vietnam vet and when he came back he was never the same and died early from alcoholism

    • @sunnybeaches1331
      @sunnybeaches1331 Před 5 měsíci +29

      I'm am truly sorry to hear that. May God Bless him.😢

    • @kevinsanders7370
      @kevinsanders7370 Před 5 měsíci +66

      My dad was a Northern Ireland veteran (british), he was shot twice. He was also absent in my life. He never got the help he needed. Rip dad 1956-2021

    • @buzzlightyear2490
      @buzzlightyear2490 Před 5 měsíci +26

      I'm sorry to hear, my father too is a veteran of this war, it had devastated him, i haven't talked with him fir over 30 years now, just got up and left and never sore him Again.
      I ment many veteran some are OK some are not.

  • @errrmaaa7456
    @errrmaaa7456 Před 5 měsíci +605

    Maybe the next time Grandpa Windsock goes in to replace his brake fluid, the shop will send the new guy all alone to do it.

  • @Horrligan
    @Horrligan Před 2 měsíci +7

    Empathischer Typ. Er erzählt es so als wäre es das witzigste, was er jemals gesehen hat.

  • @matthewortiz7223
    @matthewortiz7223 Před 2 měsíci +4

    The funny part was some people didn't know the true meaning of brotherhood. Bet most of your platoon hid during fire fights and lied about your tours..

  • @COMM_DUMPST3R
    @COMM_DUMPST3R Před 4 měsíci +1991

    as stated in the NCO creed. "I will not use my grade or position to attain pleasure, profit, or personal safety." horrible leadership involved in that squad.

    • @MikeO8585
      @MikeO8585 Před 3 měsíci +19

      Majority didnt want to be there so they were just trying to survive for themselves

    • @donfrandsen7778
      @donfrandsen7778 Před 3 měsíci +4

      Exactly ...you nailed it

    • @D00dman
      @D00dman Před 3 měsíci

      @@MikeO8585Fuck boomers. That’s about all I gotta say.

    • @dfrost3417
      @dfrost3417 Před 3 měsíci +9

      The creed came out in 73

    • @edamitep1533
      @edamitep1533 Před 3 měsíci +18

      There's a reason fragging became so prevalent in Vietnam.

  • @safffff1000
    @safffff1000 Před 4 měsíci +2411

    My buddy served in that war and always took the point, as he grew up in the woods of West Virginia and hunted he felt safer by not being led into a trap, since he could see things in the forest no one else noticed. Rest in Peace Fred, died 2023

    • @augustinjacob9832
      @augustinjacob9832 Před 4 měsíci +90

      Bro was a true hunter and trapper, because he could avoid being hunted and trapped himself.

    • @michaelkorrek7856
      @michaelkorrek7856 Před 4 měsíci +31

      Ty for your service fred

    • @perseusbeatkraken
      @perseusbeatkraken Před 4 měsíci +8

      Fred bear?

    • @Negan-lo7yr
      @Negan-lo7yr Před 4 měsíci

      He, and tens of thousands of other servicemen TRAPPED themselves in an unjust and corrupt war, that's the real land mine here.
      Wars in the middle east too - you fools were fooled big time. The families of the fallen will never forget. Time to hold politicians accountable!

    • @mrp4sch3n4
      @mrp4sch3n4 Před 4 měsíci +5

      May he rest in peace ❤️

  • @Jmoneyy365
    @Jmoneyy365 Před měsícem +3

    Can’t stop thinking about this. These are supposed to be to your people, close to your family, and they send you out there with no experience to watch you die and not care. I’m so disappointed with humanity bro.

  • @attilakonkoly4329
    @attilakonkoly4329 Před 2 měsíci +4

    During the Golf war 1991 Us specialist for déminage arrived at 9h00. They wanted to demonstrate how to désarmé the mine! 56 dead and more injured! The specialist flew back to New-York the same day!

  • @warrenbelford6508
    @warrenbelford6508 Před 4 měsíci +1544

    The lack of regret in this guys voice is astounding. We'd never have a new guy do ANYTHING without someone to show them the ropes a couple times. There's how you're trained to do it and then there's how it's done in real situations.

    • @timbliss1
      @timbliss1 Před 3 měsíci

      Right? What a piece of trash!

    • @mikeiaquinta245
      @mikeiaquinta245 Před 3 měsíci +93

      Fragging was invented for those special squad leaders that liked to take his men in harms way

    • @SashaTheDog
      @SashaTheDog Před 3 měsíci +77

      His reaction is truly disgusting to say the least

    • @heartandmindovercome3214
      @heartandmindovercome3214 Před 3 měsíci

      ​@@mikeiaquinta245👍🔥

    • @heartandmindovercome3214
      @heartandmindovercome3214 Před 3 měsíci +50

      ​@@SashaTheDog I was thinking the same thing. it's like, yeah I get it, a lot of people die out there. You can tell the average response, where someone shows at least a little emotion, from the sociopathic response of zero remorse.

  • @gemleollc4755
    @gemleollc4755 Před 4 měsíci +857

    My father in law was in Vietnam as a 19 yo. Now 81. He told me that he had seen a few platoon officers get fragged by their guys - for this very reason. College types trying to make a name for themselves but let someone take the risk. Cowards.

    • @itskarl7575
      @itskarl7575 Před 4 měsíci +27

      It's not the officer's job to take the risks personally. Officers who got fragged were those who sent their men on high risk missions for little practical gain. Though it should be pointed out that most fragging took place in support units, against officers who tried to instill more discipline and crack down on drug use.

    • @gemleollc4755
      @gemleollc4755 Před 4 měsíci +69

      @@itskarl7575 correct the first part. Incorrect the second part.

    • @itskarl7575
      @itskarl7575 Před 4 měsíci

      @@gemleollc4755 You can check out the stats yourself if you like.

    • @skipads5141
      @skipads5141 Před 4 měsíci +6

      He was in the VietNam War in 1961 or '62? Wow.

    • @DerrelTheReal
      @DerrelTheReal Před 4 měsíci +3

      @@gemleollc4755before you start drinking the kool aid. You gotta remember they signed up for the job.
      Also I understand where the guy (in the video) is coming from. If I was in that leadership position, why would I send my experience guys and risk losing a valued members of the platoon ?
      “Oh, but back in my day the leader went first” okay you rather risk losing the leader ? Losing the leader would cause disorganized between the troops and morale loss. People tend to forget it’s very important to keep a strong leader alive to keep the platoon alive. You lose the leader and you lose half your firepower..
      You rather have the new inexperience guy lead and replace the leader? In modern warfare you can definitely send the leader since everyone is trained up to date now. But back then I feel like you work with what you get.

  • @patrickgreen6902
    @patrickgreen6902 Před měsícem +4

    Reminds me of a friend of mine, that went to Vietnam, as a Marine, he lasted a week, was killed on the day after my 18th birthday, he stepped on a landmine, don’t know if he was on point. RIP Turtle 😢

  • @robertnault5865
    @robertnault5865 Před 2 měsíci +6

    Its good to hear your compassion for him WOW!

  • @BagOfBurgers
    @BagOfBurgers Před 4 měsíci +1364

    “We put the newest greenest soldiers in the most important and dangerous position” real good fucking job soldier. Luckily that’s not how we operated when I was in Iraq and Afghanistan. Disgusting

    • @gratefulguy4130
      @gratefulguy4130 Před 4 měsíci +170

      I like how universally disgusted everyone is with him. I hope he finds himself at a barbecue with some vets and tries to impress them with this story.

    • @porkerpete7722
      @porkerpete7722 Před 4 měsíci +24

      He might just be desensitized. I don't think hes making a mockery of him.

    • @gratefulguy4130
      @gratefulguy4130 Před 4 měsíci +24

      @@porkerpete7722 Why? Just because you don't want to believe that? Check out his body language and facial expressions.

    • @jonothandoeser
      @jonothandoeser Před 4 měsíci +1

      You find this tactic to be dishonorable?

    • @crose1466
      @crose1466 Před 4 měsíci +1

      I mean, I think during our modern wars, they essentially used national guardsmen like this

  • @u.s.militia7682
    @u.s.militia7682 Před 5 měsíci +1171

    I was a Combat Engineer. We’d find a mine and lay a charge next to it to disarm it. Ain’t no way I’d dig that crap up. Would you???

    • @jonjones7137
      @jonjones7137 Před 5 měsíci +82

      F*** NO. It seemed like willful sacrifice

    • @chriswalters4326
      @chriswalters4326 Před 5 měsíci +52

      If you were ordered to as a young 18, or so, years old you would. My Father survived Vietnam. I respect and love the man and am SO proud of him and to be his son. May GOD bless them ALL!!! All who went through such a harrowing terrible experience and came home to the new rise of turning on your own.

    • @jarhead1814
      @jarhead1814 Před 5 měsíci +24

      That mouse trap will get you every time

    • @charleschristianson2730
      @charleschristianson2730 Před 5 měsíci +34

      Maybe, if I had to. I was a Combat Engineer in Iraq and yeah, we just blew them in place. But we were fully trained on how to disarm all manner of landmines and IEDs, and if the mission had demanded it I would've stepped up. A couple guys in my unit had to do it on occasion. Sometimes you have to do crazy s*** in war. If you don't like it, don't join the military.

    • @peterblanchard4109
      @peterblanchard4109 Před 5 měsíci +35

      ​@charleschristianson2730 mostly likely the guys in the video didn't join they were drafted.

  • @user-qp2uw2im5n
    @user-qp2uw2im5n Před 3 měsíci +4

    My uncle instead of waiting for the draft he decided to join the Marines. He left the States July 6th 1966 headed to Vietnam, he got killed August 6th just 1 month later. Our family was told that he was killed by a land mine and seeing this guy tell this story makes me wonder how common it was for new guys to take point? God Bless all these brave veterans

    • @rf3495
      @rf3495 Před 25 dny +1

      Marines did not do that. This dude was Army

    • @user-qp2uw2im5n
      @user-qp2uw2im5n Před 25 dny

      @@rf3495idk if my uncle was sent out front of his squad or not. I do know that he was a Marine that got to Vietnam July 6th 1966 and got killed August 6th 1966. My family was told that a mine had exploded and killed him. My father was his older brother. They had a closed casket but my dad said he wanted to see him just to know that it was him, he said it was his brother and looked as if one side of his face had been hit by the blast. Idk if he stepped on the mine or one of his fellow soldiers.

  • @yungma3841
    @yungma3841 Před 3 měsíci +2

    “It’s a numbers game” how chilling and sobering it is to hear that…

  • @yt.silentknight
    @yt.silentknight Před 4 měsíci +245

    i'm glad we're all in unison regarding how we feel about this.

    • @laggismaximus
      @laggismaximus Před 3 měsíci

      Only in unison on ignorance.

    • @Mishaniss
      @Mishaniss Před 2 měsíci

      sheeple

    • @zerophantomyt433
      @zerophantomyt433 Před měsícem +5

      ​@@Mishanissso its ok to send the FNG with no experience to disarm a literal fucking bomb with no guidance and likely very little previous training if any? Ok. Go disarm a mine with no help.

    • @Mishaniss
      @Mishaniss Před měsícem

      @@zerophantomyt433 They were all new at some point.

    • @John-vm2sq
      @John-vm2sq Před měsícem +3

      Just from a modern take as well, I was a convoy commander for a Distro Platoon in the Stan and our "point man" aka lead vehicle was always my best driver in the Platoon. We trusted him and his Vic to get us to where we needed to go, at the right pace, keep on the roads for his rollers to catch any pressure IEDs, and he was my eyes.
      Doing platoon and squad tactics/movements earlier on, and you'd never put the idiot up front. You need him to know the azimuth and distance and also be your first eyes up front (if you didn't recon).
      The way this video comes off is... Shall I say, as whimsical as the dude telling the story. Dude is almost jolly about it all.... Whatever unit that was... They really f'ed up those dudes heads.

  • @johnhall7475
    @johnhall7475 Před 4 měsíci +85

    I had a friend, Thomas Owens, from Wetumpka, Alabama, who died this way. He is remembered for his kindness and athletic grace.
    Damn a politician's war.

    • @bwana-ma-coo-bah425
      @bwana-ma-coo-bah425 Před 4 měsíci +5

      US politicians war. be specific son.

    • @poutinedream5066
      @poutinedream5066 Před měsícem

      Im sorry. This guy's a pig. Hard to believe he's STILL hurting people decades later with his amazing story-telling.

  • @Troglodytarum
    @Troglodytarum Před měsícem +2

    This is why world war 2 veterans are respected. They cried when replacements died in droves, even years after the war. What this is, is evil.

  • @terminalfilms8074
    @terminalfilms8074 Před 2 měsíci +4

    I also heard from other Vietnam Vets that some cruel squad leaders would put newbies in the front of patrols to keep the rest of them safe.

    • @johnstuartsmith
      @johnstuartsmith Před 17 dny

      Keeping the rest of the unit safe is the entire reason for putting a point squad way out in front. It's better for a few guys to set off an ambush than to have the whole company walking into it.

  • @davidbeach6947
    @davidbeach6947 Před 5 měsíci +801

    I disagree
    I was a marine grunt in 1969 in Vietnam
    We never put a new guy at point, as that would also increase our risk of being ambushed. I sometimes walked point myself even carrying the radio if I felt better that way.
    Of course one of the times I got hit was the guy walking point in front of me missed a trip wire and we had spotted the signs that the trail was booby trapped.
    But he wasn’t a new guy.
    We never ever put a new guy on point.

    • @pekestyxx6674
      @pekestyxx6674 Před 5 měsíci +3

      Maybe he’s army.

    • @tomquinn607
      @tomquinn607 Před 5 měsíci +12

      Look at the narrators tie. USMC

    • @vigilantobserver8389
      @vigilantobserver8389 Před 5 měsíci

      Semper Fi, OORAH!🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸

    • @RinkyRoo2021
      @RinkyRoo2021 Před 5 měsíci +19

      Yeah I thought that seems suspicious, everyone else says you wanted a guy who knew what he was doing

    • @DT-lr2bi
      @DT-lr2bi Před 5 měsíci +15

      That is the way it was supposed to be. My Platoon Sgt made the decision who went out.

  • @Itchyknee88
    @Itchyknee88 Před 4 měsíci +163

    Real noble of them to send the new guys with no experience, to do a job that requires exactly that…real classy, super brave, truly honourable.

    • @marccamp6376
      @marccamp6376 Před 4 měsíci

      'Duhh, that's war HUHUHU, ITS NORMAL'
      The fog of war, that's life, it always have been like that, etc etc
      Arguments for

  • @melonmusk3650
    @melonmusk3650 Před 2 měsíci +2

    The way he talks about this without a hint of emotion is crazy. My grandpa was in Vietnam and all I’ve gotten out if him was his experience is basic training

  • @Paranoidsocialist
    @Paranoidsocialist Před 5 dny +1

    Perfect example to illustrate how you should never blindly thank a vet for their service. Respect is not given it’s earned.

  • @goosemen8152
    @goosemen8152 Před 5 měsíci +223

    Imagine throwing your life away so young in a pointless war. In a place you were never supposed to be.

    • @super1million11
      @super1million11 Před 4 měsíci +6

      I just hope he was voluntarily there and not drafted.

    • @chris2790
      @chris2790 Před 4 měsíci +9

      Imagine sitting by and not being in your congressmans face about all the current pointless wars. Remember Afghanistan or have you forgotten that already?

    • @RandomPerson-nd2ey
      @RandomPerson-nd2ey Před 4 měsíci +1

      If you got a better idea, I'm all for hearing it out but war and the young dying to resolve the arguments of the old has been a thing for all of history so... Umm, good luck with that I guess.

    • @alejandromata825
      @alejandromata825 Před 4 měsíci +14

      @@RandomPerson-nd2eyThe better idea is to just not go. Why go and fight a war for jerks that are stripping most of your constitutional rights and selling you out back home anyway? Why let your children or grandchildren fight?

    • @guyguyver7552
      @guyguyver7552 Před 4 měsíci +11

      The politicians want to do the same again in Ukraine...will the young people comply or rebel against them?...😊

  • @stevelauda5435
    @stevelauda5435 Před 4 měsíci +73

    How awful it would have been to lose a son in Vietnam but just imagine how awful it would feel to find out he died this way?!!!

  • @morbiussupportivemother5504
    @morbiussupportivemother5504 Před 3 měsíci +4

    The boomers had none of their fathers' honor. Honor died with The Greatest Generation. Pity.

  • @daryldaryl913
    @daryldaryl913 Před 2 měsíci +2

    War is terrible. Only being there would you truly know of it. God bless all their souls. Bless your families.
    Thank you Brothers and Sisters.

  • @Whiskypapa671
    @Whiskypapa671 Před 4 měsíci +519

    “I will not use my grade or position to attain pleasure, profit ,or personal safety” -US ARMY NCO Creed

    • @Ronismaximus
      @Ronismaximus Před 4 měsíci +3

      Damn dude. Nice quote.

    • @bubble_boy0963
      @bubble_boy0963 Před 4 měsíci

      Summed it up pretty well

    • @thundervalley9766
      @thundervalley9766 Před 4 měsíci

      So, you are implying the squad leader should always be at risk? Ever heard of an ambush? You wait until everyone is in the trap before you spring it. Doesn’t matter where you are in formation. You are in the same danger as everyone else. You’d always put yourself on point if you were in charge? New guys need training too. How did the old guys learn? It’s not like the new guy got off a plane and straight to running point. That would be idiotic. Besides, the squad wouldn’t always have the same guy on point all the time. Rotating personnel throughout the mission is key.

    • @bubble_boy0963
      @bubble_boy0963 Před 4 měsíci +11

      @@thundervalley9766 That is not what he implied, that is what you randomly assumed he mean because you clearly didn’t understand what the quote means.

    • @bubble_boy0963
      @bubble_boy0963 Před 4 měsíci

      @@thundervalley9766 And putting new guys on mine clearing duty isn’t training, it’s getting them killed. Thank god you aren’t an officer.

  • @TheColossalBlanket
    @TheColossalBlanket Před 4 měsíci +148

    'He was the only guy to get injured' interesting turn of phrase to describe a guy's upper torso raining down next to you.

  • @shiznit9142
    @shiznit9142 Před 15 dny +2

    Came to the comment section to make sure i wasnt the only one disgusted by this guy. He almost sounds PROUD to have this tragic memory....

  • @jackwild8019
    @jackwild8019 Před 3 měsíci +1

    In memory of Peter Nee, killed in Vietnam 🇻🇳 and member of the Marine Corps, March 1969, aged 21 years. Son of Ireland 🇮🇪 and now buried in the soil of Ireland 🇺🇸

  • @leborhal7450
    @leborhal7450 Před 5 měsíci +866

    "We sent draftees who had no business there to do the most dangerous and deadly work, becasue we were chicken shit"

    • @jamesbarnett527
      @jamesbarnett527 Před 5 měsíci +55

      They were as likely to be drafted themselves so don't blame them. Blame the demons in DC that conducted the war.

    • @steviechampagne
      @steviechampagne Před 5 měsíci +7

      would you sign it up to do it yourself? think about it before replying

    • @AlphaShepherd
      @AlphaShepherd Před 5 měsíci +15

      nice, blame the victims. Disrespect the dead, and give the most dogshit perspective.

    • @Thestoicstallion
      @Thestoicstallion Před 5 měsíci +26

      @@AlphaShepherdhe did none of those things quit your whining

    • @zameion90
      @zameion90 Před 5 měsíci +13

      Exactly what I came to say. All the airsoft nerds and larpers I see have gathered much more experience than us from running around and playing dressup

  • @fenixfelixx
    @fenixfelixx Před 4 měsíci +676

    Gotta love the coward justifying sending in someone who didn't know what they were doing was the right call, then basically mocking this poor man's death 60 years later.

    • @poleag
      @poleag Před 4 měsíci +39

      KWUMP!

    • @ddoherty5956
      @ddoherty5956 Před 4 měsíci +27

      Boy, it would have been a kid who should have still been at school.

    • @synnove1046
      @synnove1046 Před 4 měsíci +23

      I don’t think he mocked anyone or anything. I think he seems detached but I think that’s caused by the horror of dealing with Viet Nam.

    • @civilprotectionunit8145
      @civilprotectionunit8145 Před 4 měsíci +6

      Can you really call someone who presumably fought in Vietnam a coward?

    • @UdumbaraMusic
      @UdumbaraMusic Před 4 měsíci +45

      @@civilprotectionunit8145 If they use their comrades as meat shields, they're more of a coward than most.

  • @roderickcornelius206
    @roderickcornelius206 Před měsícem +1

    These people were so evil to send a new guy to disarm a explosive mine! Unbelievable 😮

  • @chrisomeg3226
    @chrisomeg3226 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Because of brave young men like him, we are free.

  • @lotusinn3
    @lotusinn3 Před 4 měsíci +444

    “It’s a numbers game.”
    Ghee, I wonder why young people aren’t signing up anymore 😂.

    • @richardgeorge2250
      @richardgeorge2250 Před 4 měsíci +25

      If it was for defense of this country they would, but for Vietnam, Iraq, or Afghanistan? Ain’t no way I would ever do that.

    • @antoniosorge2037
      @antoniosorge2037 Před 3 měsíci

      Not that they aren’t. 77% can’t even join now. To fat, dumb or mental health problems.

    • @antoniosorge2037
      @antoniosorge2037 Před 3 měsíci

      Not that they aren’t. 77% can’t even join now. To fat, dumb or mental health problems.

    • @21stCenturyDub
      @21stCenturyDub Před 3 měsíci +3

      That's just a colloquial way of saying that in war, statistically some will not make it out alive

    • @lotusinn3
      @lotusinn3 Před 3 měsíci +7

      @@21stCenturyDub That’s pretty generous. In the context of the conversation, its more likely the side with the greater number of meatshields, has the greater chance of winning, tactically or pyrrhic. Which is of course pretty accurate for the most part.

  • @renanbautista6222
    @renanbautista6222 Před 4 měsíci +131

    Putting a new guy without any combat experience in my opinion is cowardice. I will not thank you for your service until you say sorry to that poor boys parents.

    • @mikesecor6074
      @mikesecor6074 Před 3 měsíci

      what are you talking about

    • @renanbautista6222
      @renanbautista6222 Před 3 měsíci +11

      @@mikesecor6074 Don't worry about it. It's way over your head.

    • @Thegreatesttoneverlive
      @Thegreatesttoneverlive Před 2 měsíci +17

      ​​@@mikesecor6074 You're in the military, you're 18, you're now put on lead to disable mines, you blow up because you didn't get training, the other guys laugh and say "dumb rookie".

    • @mikeaylward4521
      @mikeaylward4521 Před měsícem

      ​@@renanbautista6222Your comment is based on the premise that the speaker was the squad leader. The video does not indicate this

    • @renanbautista6222
      @renanbautista6222 Před měsícem +3

      @@mikeaylward4521 My comment was aimed not at the speaker but at the chain of command that would let an inexperienced soldier take the lead and risk not only his life but the rest of the squad.

  • @paulcampbell5177
    @paulcampbell5177 Před 3 dny +1

    That’s genius. The least experienced doing the most dangerous work. 👍👍

  • @gino3006
    @gino3006 Před měsícem +1

    “Ahh youtube shorts before bed”
    *the first short*

  • @guatobean2869
    @guatobean2869 Před 4 měsíci +272

    What he meant was...the dishonorable cowards made new guys run point. Let us not get it twosted, there are brave men and then there are cowards.

    • @RedSeaConsulting
      @RedSeaConsulting Před 4 měsíci +4

      A B S O L U T E L Y ! !

    • @adamr9215
      @adamr9215 Před 4 měsíci +2

      And most people wanted an experienced person on point because they would be better at knowing all the tricks. The VC knew what they were doing, and often traps were rigged together. That way, if one went off, the whole line would go off and they would get several people. So you wanted an experienced man on point. But, some teams had “experts” with extra defusing training on improvised stuff. And several times the military claimed they had perfected training, but in the field it usually proved otherwise. I’m wondering if an old man’s rambling and some editing put two stories together or something because I don’t see the new guy on point. But, I could see the new guy being the mine expert. Some positions were assigned based on the training you had, others were earned. Point was earned, and took trust.

    • @MsggieB.6870
      @MsggieB.6870 Před 4 měsíci +2

      We should not be angry at this man . If he didn't tell us we would never know!

    • @guatobean2869
      @guatobean2869 Před 4 měsíci +2

      @adamr9215 that's good information to know, context is everything.

    • @guatobean2869
      @guatobean2869 Před 4 měsíci +1

      @MsggieB.6870 I understand what you're saying, heck he served in a time when many decided not to, the least we can do is give him the benefit of the doubt. And it reveals the terror these guys faced.

  • @call_me_iori
    @call_me_iori Před 4 měsíci +1125

    “Why does people not wanna join the military?”
    The military:

    • @LordFlashheart.11
      @LordFlashheart.11 Před 3 měsíci +13

      The governments too

    • @BarryB.Benson
      @BarryB.Benson Před 3 měsíci +9

      The 60s are a bit different than today, but I see what you’re saying

    • @sixgunsymphony7408
      @sixgunsymphony7408 Před 3 měsíci +3

      These guys were draftees, not professional.

    • @vinniepaul182
      @vinniepaul182 Před 3 měsíci

      Because no one wants to fight for a liberal government who’s anti man

    • @antoinegezod
      @antoinegezod Před 3 měsíci

      Joining military is the ultimate cuckoldry, dying for politicians who give zero f**** about you ahahahaha

  • @jimstewart2457
    @jimstewart2457 Před 5 dny

    THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR SERVICE!!!!!!

  • @dr.woozie7500
    @dr.woozie7500 Před měsícem +1

    Life is strange sometimes. The psychopaths survive unscathed while the naïve die in the most brutal of ways.

    • @Arkus123
      @Arkus123 Před 27 dny +1

      To Allah we belong to Allah we shall return and he is the one who is above all and he chooses when we die. Glorious is his plan the lord of all things.

  • @riku12345122
    @riku12345122 Před 4 měsíci +344

    "Well it's just a numbers game" You LOST that war, big guy.

    • @PedoKingJobiden
      @PedoKingJobiden Před 4 měsíci +8

      Sure.....little guy🤣🤣🤣

    • @riku12345122
      @riku12345122 Před 4 měsíci +63

      @@PedoKingJobiden Add all the emojis you want, everyone can still see you're butthurt

    • @Jewel_Screaming_Chango8387
      @Jewel_Screaming_Chango8387 Před 4 měsíci +3

      Unnecessary war was lost this coming from a moderate that leans right

    • @Outlaw0-4
      @Outlaw0-4 Před 4 měsíci +2

      Did you actually check the numbers or did you go along with what everyone else says?

    • @gmclop2338
      @gmclop2338 Před 4 měsíci +1

      Well he’s still right. You might wanna check the numbers.

  • @BabylonGames798
    @BabylonGames798 Před 4 měsíci +195

    A war in which your own commanding officer was more of a threat to rookies than the enemy that was being fought. Truly a disgraceful man.

    • @iamgermane
      @iamgermane Před 3 měsíci +4

      Anyone putting the newbies on point is a a-hole. Let them try that with a woman! There would be a Congressional investigation on the first incident!

    • @BabylonGames798
      @BabylonGames798 Před 3 měsíci +4

      @@iamgermane Just let them try that in the 21st century in general. This era makes it a lot harder to get away with things.

  • @autismobinch135
    @autismobinch135 Před měsícem +1

    “It’s a numbers game”
    Monster

  • @madtownangler
    @madtownangler Před 2 měsíci

    I'm thankful that we don't have the draft anymore. Two of my dad's uncles died in WWII, my uncle died in Vietnam.. my grandma's only son her daughter was my mom.

  • @USMC49er
    @USMC49er Před 4 měsíci +551

    Even EOD in Iraq/Afghanistan sends the best guys to disarm IEDs and they still might screw up bad.
    Sending new guys to do the most dangerous job back in Vietnam seems super irresponsible.

    • @NinjaSushi2
      @NinjaSushi2 Před 4 měsíci +35

      It was. This guy sounds like he was the LT or SGT and doesn't want to say..

    • @NinjaSushi2
      @NinjaSushi2 Před 4 měsíci +45

      Men like this run our country now.

    • @rmcq1999
      @rmcq1999 Před 4 měsíci +5

      It makes sense.. send someone who knows what they're doing. I think these directives were passed down from on high.

    • @stephenkennedy8305
      @stephenkennedy8305 Před 4 měsíci +4

      Really? In Nam we did not have EOD walking patrols with us. We also were in a jungle, we often got ambushed and there were numerous traps. Now lets look at your idea, you believe it is better to get your experienced soldiers killed first. That way you have the raw meat left to fight? What rank were you? Because you did not learn proper warfare.

    • @Coach49217
      @Coach49217 Před 4 měsíci

      @@NinjaSushi2 no, women like ilhan omar and AOC run our country now. That's why it's a mess.

  • @jm7578
    @jm7578 Před 4 měsíci +289

    My father was a platoon sergeant in Vietnam. He was blessed in that not one of his men died throughout the war. He was a veteran of World War II, Korea war in Vietnam. He was a career man. He also received the bronze Star and Purple Heart

    • @shrewdthewise2840
      @shrewdthewise2840 Před 4 měsíci +27

      Your father was a true hero

    • @derchozenvun83
      @derchozenvun83 Před 4 měsíci +33

      He managed to pull an entire platoon through that all alive!?! I'm impressed at not only his heroism but at his leadership as well.

    • @skipads5141
      @skipads5141 Před 4 měsíci +8

      Those supply sergeants were the rich ones.

    • @Dj.MODÆO
      @Dj.MODÆO Před 4 měsíci +16

      If he had already been in WW2 and Korea he had to have been an E6-e7 at least probably in his mid 40s flying a desk in the rear. That explains why none of his subordinates got killed. It’s no disrespect against him though he did his two wars already and it’s best to keep those older upper enlisted in the rear and allow the younger guys to do the fighting.

    • @pimentarules9826
      @pimentarules9826 Před 4 měsíci +7

      Your dad was a fucking legend

  • @pandavelli8176
    @pandavelli8176 Před 17 dny

    My platoon sergeant wouldn’t even eat until he watched every single one of us get chow. My platoon leader stopped me from clearing a rooftop one time and made me let him do it (it was a dangerous area too). I can’t believe they put the new guys on point.

  • @AaronSimone059
    @AaronSimone059 Před 2 měsíci +1

    I'm sorry to hear that, sir.I want to thank you for your service.😮

  • @blakeolson6519
    @blakeolson6519 Před 5 měsíci +181

    My uncle died after only 2 weeks in Vietnam from a land mine...
    101st Airborne 501st 1st Battalion B Company 6/4/1968-6/19/1968

    • @codymitchell2650
      @codymitchell2650 Před 5 měsíci +18

      RIP to your uncle. Unbelievably sad.

    • @chiefsossa14
      @chiefsossa14 Před 5 měsíci +12

      RIP

    • @GeraAbi
      @GeraAbi Před 5 měsíci +15

      FK that war, FK every damn war.
      May your Uncle Rest in Peace.

    • @CastleHassall
      @CastleHassall Před 4 měsíci +20

      be crazy if it was him in the story.. now you know who to look for to find out and put on the spot about the way they did him

    • @lisazinn866
      @lisazinn866 Před 4 měsíci +2

  • @frankstefini3392
    @frankstefini3392 Před 5 měsíci +161

    Well, I would have remembered his name. Whoever he was, RIP brave soldier.

    • @Dr.Boring
      @Dr.Boring Před 4 měsíci +14

      Yeah, you'd remember the name of every dead, as it became the furniture of your reality and occurred hundredfold around you nigh ceaselessly. I bet

    • @michaelplascencia4492
      @michaelplascencia4492 Před 4 měsíci +3

      @@Dr.Boringthe guys they sacrificed, yeah, they should remember those names specifically.

  • @adudecalledtony3731
    @adudecalledtony3731 Před 6 dny +2

    So glad the comments are agreeing this is an extremely fucked up thing to do

  • @metalmeddling
    @metalmeddling Před 3 měsíci

    I don't know anything about this man, but I do know that he's been through something I haven't. Only respect, untill I've walked in his shoes!

  • @jasonyoung8963
    @jasonyoung8963 Před 4 měsíci +67

    In the military we would call this guy blue falcon. I now understand why Vietnam vets were disliked so much….

    • @DT-lr2bi
      @DT-lr2bi Před 2 měsíci +8

      AMEN, a Shitass Blue Fallon. Forgot about that term

    • @mgway4661
      @mgway4661 Před 2 měsíci +7

      The 70’s (afternath of Vietnam) was the statistical low point of the US military. They came back addicted to Heroin and Hookers whether or not they saw actual combat or not (of course, everyone of them claims combat though)

    • @jmfs3497
      @jmfs3497 Před měsícem +1

      I had never heard this term, but my manager at my job is like this. I had been there 15 years serving as many as possible, and his first day on the job made everything about himself. I'm still looking for an exit. I've made the analogy that he would likely be a casualty of friendly fire for all the lives he would waste if this were military.

    • @pocu321
      @pocu321 Před měsícem +1

      Pretty sure you can't fit "all" vietnam vets into your one scenario of 'now understanding' why all VV's were disliked so much.

    • @alfredpaquin3563
      @alfredpaquin3563 Před měsícem

      Is blue falcon anything like buddy fucker???

  • @basedbane787
    @basedbane787 Před 4 měsíci +88

    Put the least experienced guy on the most dangerous job. Genius

  • @Phantom1963
    @Phantom1963 Před 18 dny +1

    Rest Peaceful Soldier ❤
    And thank you for my freedom....

  • @David-bl4jh
    @David-bl4jh Před 2 měsíci +1

    May God bless all veterans living and deceased!

  • @knatsomitab7376
    @knatsomitab7376 Před 4 měsíci +257

    My Uncle was a platoon Srgnt in Vietnam: bronze star, silver star and 2 purple hearts. NEVER ONCE LET A NEW GUY DO ANYTHING BUT OBSERVE ON PATROL UNTIL HE COULD TRUST YOU! This guy led the chow haul and hid. 2 tours. RIP Uncle Stu

    • @markwestervelt9708
      @markwestervelt9708 Před 4 měsíci +1

      Brave man. Men like him is what makes our country great.

  • @jarmstrong2843
    @jarmstrong2843 Před 4 měsíci +298

    I was once one of those 18 year old point Marines in Vietnam. Leadership sucked back then because they always put the new guys out in front. This guy talks like it's a matter of fact without any feeling about a fellow Marine being blown up. All he can say is that it's a numbers game and then Kwoomp. Well, the Kwoomp had a human life attached with it and that's all he can say?
    That's the problem with training in the Corp has. They show you how to do all sorts of bad things to the enemy, but they don't teach you a dam thing dealing with things years down the road. I still have my bad days and dreams. But, I guess rank has its privileges and he had the rank to send newbies to their death while he sat in the back waiting for body parts to start raining down. I am surprised this guy wasn't fragged. What a cold SOB. Guess he got his KWOOMP when his APC hit a mine.

    • @js5584
      @js5584 Před 4 měsíci +27

      Yeah his "numbers game" comment is such a pitiful thing to say. I think you called it right. Well said.

    • @user-vm3qf9we2r
      @user-vm3qf9we2r Před 4 měsíci +1

      It is what it is. What you want him to do about it, then and now?

    • @js5584
      @js5584 Před 4 měsíci +3

      ​@@jarmstrong2843No, sir, I have not had the honor of serving, unfortunately. My initial comment was agreeing with your post. My second comment was a response to the other comment, not yours. Thank you for your service.

    • @saltyboot1354
      @saltyboot1354 Před 4 měsíci +5

      It hasn't changed much, sadly. I remember hearing about my good friend being KIA'd in Afghanistan around 2012. He stepped on an IED while patrolling around a compound. About a year later I was on deployment with the same Doc that was on his squad. Doc told me the next day they made the Marines return to the compound and search for his missing equipment. Sure, EOD "cleared" the area after, but as good as they are, they're never 100%. So they went back to search in a highly dangerous area for an m16 and NVG that got launched into orbit. They were never found.

    • @JBAIMARK3
      @JBAIMARK3 Před 4 měsíci

      Probably wasn't fragged because his men were complicit.
      You might end up thinking; I've risked my life x times, cpt's looking out for us, let the new guy do his share.
      Leader is thinking; I'd rather lose the new guy, and the vets will kick up a fuss if I keep endangering them.
      It'd take someone very brave, naïve or mad to allow themselves to be thrown at every IED going forward.
      Wars ruin bodies, souls and lives, not sure there's any way around it, especially when you're on the raw end of it.

  • @timothycockrum8514
    @timothycockrum8514 Před měsícem

    Ah,man.That is sad.So young. Inexperienced. God Bless Him. A brave soldier.

  • @melvinbrotherofthejoker436
    @melvinbrotherofthejoker436 Před 3 měsíci +2

    His only enemy were the guys standing behind him lol