Elizabeth Brownrigg | The cruel murder of a 14 year old girl

Sdílet
Vložit
  • čas přidán 4. 04. 2024
  • In this disturbing true crime video Kevin Hicks delves into the tale of the murder of 14-year-old Mary Clifford by midwife Elizabeth Brownrigg. Brownrigg was a notorious figure in 18th century London, infamous for her heinous acts of cruelty towards her servants. In a haunting recount of a dark chapter in 18th century London the story unravels the gruesome details of Brownrigg's heinous acts of violence and reveals the depths of human depravity that lurk within seemingly ordinary facades.
    If you'd like to support the channel more and help us continue making fun, fascinating videos, please check out our PATREON page for perks. / thehistorysquad
    OTHER LINKS:
    Website: historysquad.ca
    Facebook: / historysquad
    Twitter: / history_hicks
    Some images have been created using AI

Komentáře • 805

  • @tmoore15wvu
    @tmoore15wvu Před 2 měsíci +411

    I’m just so viscerally disgusted by cowardice. The men who were told what was happening and failed to intervene and the men on the second jury deserve nothing but shame.

    • @michaelcurley7581
      @michaelcurley7581 Před měsícem

      Shame on the men? Surely shame on that evil woman. Or does it agitate you that the main perpetrator was female. Feminists oh dear.

    • @Ragnar452
      @Ragnar452 Před měsícem +16

      Happens today too if the offender is an influential politician. He just buys his version of truth. Unfortunately everybody has a price.

    • @Gramatic69
      @Gramatic69 Před měsícem +4

      Men were simping harder then than they are now.

    • @sarahalderman3126
      @sarahalderman3126 Před měsícem

      I mean what exactly do we think is happening RIGHT NOW?!? We live in a world controlled by men, which has effectively groomed entire generations of young girls into being sex workers today. Grown men in their forties and fifties (all the way up to a hundred) who are happy to consume their "content", while pretending to be faithful and devoted, fathers and husbands!😂 This is WHAT men are. Disgusting and predatory. If history tells us anything at all... it's that men in general should not have power of women of any age, as they will always abuse that power.

    • @TheBluePony3
      @TheBluePony3 Před 29 dny +1

      I was getting molested by my mom growing up. Im a woman. My dad didnt take it seriously and neither did law enforcement. A lot of men unfortunately dont take woman on girl abuse as seriously as they do when its a male perpetrator due to the strength difference between women and men. I had assumed with people being more strict in the days of antiquity, that this problem was only a new one. I guess not

  • @michaelmcdonald6722
    @michaelmcdonald6722 Před 2 měsíci +408

    Thank you for your compassion, even for a poor girl murdered 250-years ago.

    • @nuzhatmuhammad4516
      @nuzhatmuhammad4516 Před měsícem +2

      Still happens in some countries

    • @miguelturk3562
      @miguelturk3562 Před měsícem +4

      ​@@nuzhatmuhammad4516
      It happens in every country

    • @sarahalderman3126
      @sarahalderman3126 Před měsícem +1

      I mean it is currently happening in every society that includes men.

    • @pk3m3
      @pk3m3 Před 28 dny

      ​@@sarahalderman3126cry about it😂

  • @micahlanboney7830
    @micahlanboney7830 Před 2 měsíci +260

    This was devastatingly sad, but the story of these girls needs to be heard and remembered

  • @The_ZeroLine
    @The_ZeroLine Před 2 měsíci +223

    This “family” was pure evil. Beyond evil. This is of the most sickening stories I’ve ever heard. The lodger, the neighbors, the apprentices, etc. also deserve condemnation as well for doing absolutely nothing.

    • @HowardArnold-be9ly
      @HowardArnold-be9ly Před měsícem +2

      Democrats.

    • @KCohere33
      @KCohere33 Před měsícem

      An entire family of sadists.

    • @MrHarumakiSensei
      @MrHarumakiSensei Před měsícem +4

      What do you mean the neighbors did nothing? In the video it said they stopped it happening.

  • @dganim9196
    @dganim9196 Před 2 měsíci +297

    It's terrifying the depths of cruelty the human race can descend to. You have to wonder how many folks young and old throughout time were silenced and no justice was ever served. Kevin thanks again for the education and sharing these sobering historic events.

    • @Vicus_of_Utrecht
      @Vicus_of_Utrecht Před 2 měsíci +3

      I don't understand it either. I never finished this video but I still get Notifs. Good people comment here.

    • @TheGrwhi065
      @TheGrwhi065 Před 2 měsíci +13

      They may have gotten away with it in life, but they paid the price in Hell.

    • @deirdrepasko9056
      @deirdrepasko9056 Před 2 měsíci +3

      @@TheGrwhi065 that's for sure!

    • @Garbeaux.
      @Garbeaux. Před měsícem +4

      I’ve never been able to get it. Reminds me of what happened on October 7th last year. 😢

    • @Kristine14
      @Kristine14 Před měsícem +1

      I believe they are often referred to as ghosts. 😢

  • @justme8837
    @justme8837 Před měsícem +183

    after the first girl went to the hospital and told what was going on, how did they allow them to keep anymore girls? So disgusting that someone can be so cruel.

    • @lostpony4885
      @lostpony4885 Před měsícem +4

      Good ol civilization.

    • @sarahalderman3126
      @sarahalderman3126 Před měsícem +5

      Men... it is always just men.

    • @lilyfromafar969
      @lilyfromafar969 Před měsícem +7

      Still happens in Canada , Europe and all around the world . Sad but true.

    • @TkT8PR
      @TkT8PR Před měsícem +15

      @@sarahalderman3126Interesting that a woman was one of the persons doing the most abuse.

    • @StridersBored
      @StridersBored Před měsícem +1

      @@TkT8PR I mean… sure. Congrats on the observation? All the countless men within the chain and systems that could’ve helped or prevented this from happening, even doing something as small as investigating this girls stories completely slipped the minds of all of them

  • @HisNameIsRobertPaulson01
    @HisNameIsRobertPaulson01 Před 2 měsíci +247

    I'm speechless that a mother and father could be so heartless towards children. Thank you for speaking these young girls names.

    • @ginnyanntonick
      @ginnyanntonick Před 2 měsíci +10

      Unfortunately, modernity is perfectly capable of creating monsters with human faces.

    • @CandiceGoddard
      @CandiceGoddard Před 2 měsíci

      Why? The girls weren't their children. Also it makes no sense to be speechless regarding this when the brutalities of slavery even towards children, for example are known. The fact that these girls weren't enslaved or non European makes no difference. They were members of an underclass and therefore in the minds of psychopaths, worthless.

    • @CandiceGoddard
      @CandiceGoddard Před 2 měsíci +9

      @@ginnyanntonick Modernity? So the ritual human sacrifice found in almost all pre-Christian pagan religions is a product of "modernity"? You should try learning history without bias.

    • @ginnyanntonick
      @ginnyanntonick Před 2 měsíci +3

      @@CandiceGoddard 🤣

    • @MiracleFound
      @MiracleFound Před 2 měsíci +8

      ​@@CandiceGoddardperhaps she is hoping for better behavior from supposedly civilized Christians, which is what they were supposed to be. That they behaved worse than ancient pagans makes it even worse.

  • @crystalclear6864
    @crystalclear6864 Před 2 měsíci +764

    Mary clifford. Mary mitchell. Mary jones. Thanks for naming the victims.

    • @sergeantbrother6940
      @sergeantbrother6940 Před 2 měsíci +35

      Any Marys should watch out.

    • @natezuniga-qd7pe
      @natezuniga-qd7pe Před 2 měsíci +4

      I was about to ask for clarification. Ty!

    • @robcanisto8635
      @robcanisto8635 Před 2 měsíci +19

      bruh they really weren't very imaginative on names huh lol... Mary, Elizabeth, William, Jack.... THATS IT lol

    • @JeNn0mic0n
      @JeNn0mic0n Před 2 měsíci +25

      @@robcanisto8635 You do know when this took place right? Time periods and certain countries reflect popular names at the time.

    • @LilbigwomanN-wg4nm
      @LilbigwomanN-wg4nm Před 2 měsíci

      @@sergeantbrother6940it’s a history channel. Everything happened 250 years ago. You Been smoking a little bit to mutch Mary Jane.

  • @davidstrother496
    @davidstrother496 Před 2 měsíci +215

    The brutality of the entire family is almost beyond belief. I wonder how the surviving girls fared in their lives after they were removed from their torture. Thank you for the story. Cheers from Texas.

    • @thehistorysquad
      @thehistorysquad  Před 2 měsíci +97

      Hi David, yes I wondered that and tried to find out but there's nothing out there. I just hope they managed to find some happiness in their subsequent lives.
      Have a good weekend 👍🏻

    • @deed5811
      @deed5811 Před 2 měsíci +16

      Mary Mitchell and Mary Jones might have wanted this horror to be forgotten. Still seems weird that there was no record of them afterwards. Could they have changed names at that time due to the crimes against them?

    • @CandiceGoddard
      @CandiceGoddard Před 2 měsíci

      @@deed5811 It's not weird. They were members of the lowest social class and probably illiterate as mentioned in the video so unable to record their own histories. There's absolutely no mention of MOST people from the same socio-economic class and even though the girls escaped, it doesn't mean that anyone would have particularly helped them and made a record of their lives because quite frankly what would have been more interesting in the case would be the gory details and the motives of the killers.
      When I was at uni studying archaeology the first thing we were taught was to not interpret the past according to our own standards or morals, but try to get into the mindset of the people at that time. With all due respect, people like you seem to have a very delusional interpretation of history. These people were socio-economically beneath most domestic servants in a medium to large sized household and atrocities like this were not rare.
      In the same time period, which was the early industrial period btw, lots of poor families sold their children into apprenticeships knowing that many would not survive their teens. There are stories about how teenagers died being ground up in early machinery or having their limbs torn off. Old people who could no longer work would commit suicide so as not to be a burden and mothers who were out breast feeding rich women's children would enrol their own babies in death lotteries, hoping the children would die as the pay out was sometimes more than their yearly salary.

    • @DakotaFord592
      @DakotaFord592 Před 2 měsíci +7

      No record??? None!! I want to know more about them. ​@@thehistorysquad

    • @autiethoughties6898
      @autiethoughties6898 Před 2 měsíci +10

      ​@@deed5811 They're very common names, and there was no paperwork other than church records for most people.

  • @celenabarton
    @celenabarton Před 2 měsíci +129

    Makes you wonder about the loss of all those children of their own. Were they innocent of those deaths and it all caused them to lose their minds (especially her), or did one or both of them have a hand in the deaths? What an awful and atrocious, sad and devastating story. -- Thank you, sir, for all you do!

    • @arenee118
      @arenee118 Před 14 dny +1

      I was thinking the same.

  • @PieterBreda
    @PieterBreda Před 2 měsíci +95

    For her story, hundreds went unnoticed.

  • @JohnDoe-tx8lq
    @JohnDoe-tx8lq Před 2 měsíci +97

    Husband and son literally getting away with murder, and just six months for assault - incredible.
    But the people who originally just wrote that letter of complaint have to be blamed too, they basically just washed thier hands of all responsibility even though they knew there was still at least one other girl there.

  • @rolfo728
    @rolfo728 Před 2 měsíci +108

    Horrifying. This is really the worst side of humanity.

  • @BMO_Creative
    @BMO_Creative Před 2 měsíci +136

    The Brownriggs surely killed more than just this one girl. these people were real life monsters. And human trafficking still happens today.

    • @_Uh_Oh_
      @_Uh_Oh_ Před 2 měsíci +10

      Those poor girls. It is crazy there are such wicked individuals amongst us

    • @Dwlukinbill
      @Dwlukinbill Před 29 dny +1

      Only keep three of 16 🤔

    • @rich-ard-style6996
      @rich-ard-style6996 Před 28 dny +2

      The beginning of this story was too 😮 horrific to listening to the end for me.

    • @GhostofMrsMuir1443
      @GhostofMrsMuir1443 Před 27 dny +1

      Close our borders.

    • @BMO_Creative
      @BMO_Creative Před 27 dny +1

      Interesting statement. I live in Texas, and we just want to follow basic border protocal that the fed gov won't let us do! Without borders and citizenship, there is no country really! I think that is what "those people" in power are doing! UGH...

  • @Kingshieldwall
    @Kingshieldwall Před 2 měsíci +310

    Dear God, the poor Girls. The cruelty of some People know no bounds 🤔🤨😔

    • @Johnboy3641
      @Johnboy3641 Před 2 měsíci +31

      The Brownrigg's weren't people, they were monsters.

    • @jsbcody
      @jsbcody Před 2 měsíci +21

      The really sad thing is that something like this has or is probably happening right now somewhere in the US or the world.

    • @mrparlanejxtra
      @mrparlanejxtra Před 2 měsíci +3

      Yes God was responsible and acted through the hands of the murderer as usual.

    • @AmonAnon-vw3hr
      @AmonAnon-vw3hr Před 2 měsíci

      @mrparlanejxtra cringe.

    • @ahmada1346
      @ahmada1346 Před 2 měsíci

      Blaming God for humanity's satanic actions, what a useless mind you have​@@mrparlanejxtra

  • @Packless1
    @Packless1 Před 2 měsíci +65

    ...the veneer of civilization is VERY THIN...! 😢😱

  • @artemisarrow179
    @artemisarrow179 Před měsícem +35

    You know somethings abominably brutal when even 1760’s Londoners go, “Damn wtf?”

  • @chrispig7748
    @chrispig7748 Před 2 měsíci +308

    I am very sad to say this happens just as much today. I work in social services and see this all the time. I would love to get my hands on the people who do this. Thank you for your channel

    • @craftycriminalistwithms.z3053
      @craftycriminalistwithms.z3053 Před 2 měsíci +29

      Thank you for doing this thankless and difficult job! ❤

    • @peteallyn412
      @peteallyn412 Před 2 měsíci +16

      Yea, inequity in society is unfortunately still very prevalent. But, at least there are people like you 😊

    • @bartsanders1553
      @bartsanders1553 Před 2 měsíci +21

      People like those in this story make me wsh Tyburn were still in operation.

    • @bustestlucloc4630
      @bustestlucloc4630 Před 2 měsíci +20

      If you see this all the time then why haven't you reported it to the police? More rubbish coming from the direction of social services.

    • @chrispig7748
      @chrispig7748 Před 2 měsíci

      @@bustestlucloc4630 we do, thought that was obvious

  • @katebailey1544
    @katebailey1544 Před měsícem +7

    The girls are no longer lost to history as their story was told and many heard it and mourned for them. Thank you!

  • @gemmal2271
    @gemmal2271 Před 2 měsíci +32

    I have heard about this case from the tv serious "Deadly Women" a truly horrific case. RIP Mary Clifford, Mary Mitchell and Mary Jones.

  • @ladyinwaiting7898
    @ladyinwaiting7898 Před 2 měsíci +36

    Thank you for telling this story, and bless you for reminding all of us that it is the victims who should be remembered. They were but children......

  • @Robin_Goodfellow
    @Robin_Goodfellow Před 2 měsíci +32

    I was anxious about something unrelated when I started watching this video but having finished it now I've realized that my problems are really pretty small and not worth worrying about. God, what a horrific story.

  • @toastedbabybuns1000
    @toastedbabybuns1000 Před 2 měsíci +27

    Thank you for your wonderful videos. I recently had a baby, and during that tender newborn first month, I watched your videos while I stayed up to comfort her. You made the nights less lonely and scary! My heart aches for those young girls, I can't even stomach the idea of such happening to my own daughter.

  • @ashtraydekay6624
    @ashtraydekay6624 Před 2 měsíci +25

    Not only did London have "the great stench" going on, but also the huge homeless population..... London was indeed a dark place

    • @anniep855
      @anniep855 Před měsícem +2

      Soon to be again, thanks to voting for liberals.

  • @brettbosley779
    @brettbosley779 Před měsícem +10

    Imagine how much abuse went on that didn't get discovered because it wasn't as severe.

  • @cloverg7821
    @cloverg7821 Před měsícem +8

    You hear so many horrible stories you start to become desensitised to it, but this really brought home how cruel some people can be. The sadistic nature of the cruelty is so horrendous. Thank you for sharing their story x

  • @Fretless99
    @Fretless99 Před 2 měsíci +31

    I'm only halfway through this video, and my heart is breaking for these poor girls. Thank you for teaching me something about the past, and how the poor were treated by the more fortunate. I'm going to steel myselfand watch the rest of the video now.Thank you very much for posting sir

  • @JoeyGumbo
    @JoeyGumbo Před 2 měsíci +28

    You’re presentations are so important and a lot of people would rather not hear about how we all got here! Thanks for helping us remember these people existed.

  • @bbbcfitchburg2563
    @bbbcfitchburg2563 Před 2 měsíci +17

    As former police officers in large metropolitan cities we have both seen the horrible things people will do to one another.

  • @MrSomethingElse
    @MrSomethingElse Před 2 měsíci +25

    Too little too late. Poor wee lass. This is terrible. Such entitlement! Well told, as always, good sir, you break my heart.

  • @dr.strangelove7696
    @dr.strangelove7696 Před 2 měsíci +17

    Thank you for sharing their story. Poor girls… People can be so cruel.

  • @davidlopez5674
    @davidlopez5674 Před 2 měsíci +13

    Their brutality was absolutely horrific. Thank you for keeping their names alive!

  • @brettpaterson8042
    @brettpaterson8042 Před 2 měsíci +27

    A much sad and depressing event Kevin, well told and a superb, the cruelty of what some people are capable of (And still do) is beyond normal comprehension. Many thanks. 👏

  • @DocHolliday1851
    @DocHolliday1851 Před 2 měsíci +17

    This is one of the most horrific cases I've heard. Those ladies shouldn't have had that happen to them. No idea what could make a whole family think to do anything remotely close to this stuff!

  • @Saffron-sugar
    @Saffron-sugar Před 2 měsíci +9

    This reminds me of the much more recent case of Sylvia Likens. She was an American teenager who was tortured and murdered by her caregiver, Gertrude Baniszewski and her children.

  • @clinkclunk
    @clinkclunk Před 2 měsíci +10

    Thank you, William, for speaking up. By then it was too late, but he saw the horrors and actually said something to try and help.
    Phenomenal video you did and how wonderful you are to acknowledge those poor girls.

  • @arthurdoucette1786
    @arthurdoucette1786 Před 2 měsíci +23

    Greetings once again from Nova Scotia, thank you for a somewhat darker tale. We are capable of such terrible actions, it never ceases to amaze me how evil some are, no grasp of right and wrong. The more I learn about humanity, the more I love my dog... Be safe and as always, best regards. Arthur

  • @buzsalmon
    @buzsalmon Před 2 měsíci +27

    Mary Clifford not lost to history now thanks to you Kev. and we are glad. As terrible of a story as Mary's was it would not surprise me if something like this is happening today!
    Of course this is the old copper in me coming out! Thanks for this grisly tale Kev.

    • @thehistorysquad
      @thehistorysquad  Před 2 měsíci +4

      Indeed, but sadly it is still happening today. If I understand correctly a gang in Scotland has just been brought to justice for similar cruelties against children.

    • @steves1015
      @steves1015 Před měsícem +3

      Similar things have happened in more recent times, two in particular comes to mind - Sylvia Likens in the US and another one from Japan called Junko Furuta.
      In Britain there have been a couple of cases such as the murder of Suzanne Cooper.

    • @jimjamauto
      @jimjamauto Před měsícem

      ⁠​⁠@@steves1015The Sylvia Likens story is absolutely horrific. I think group psychosis is at play in these types of murders

  • @hattyburrow716
    @hattyburrow716 Před 2 měsíci +16

    I’ve read about this crime, but you were so good at bringing the awfulness to reality

  • @kelly_out_and_about2670
    @kelly_out_and_about2670 Před měsícem +3

    How can people be so unbelievably cruel to another...especially children. I truly cannot comprehend.
    Thank you for covering this!!

  • @ldavid2528
    @ldavid2528 Před 2 měsíci +14

    Such a vivid account, I don't think I'll forget those poor girls. Thank you for yet another mind expanding session; honestly don't know how you do it, and thank goodness you do!!

  • @lovelydeath04
    @lovelydeath04 Před měsícem +4

    This is awful...that entire family hated those girls...

  • @Lppt87
    @Lppt87 Před měsícem +5

    This type of torture exist today, with police, international laws, child protective services, imagine back then? Where none of those existed? Imagine the number of inhuman behavior humans must have had?

  • @nickwebb9290
    @nickwebb9290 Před 2 měsíci +28

    A very gruesome tale of this foul family and unfortunate girls. Such a shame the male perpetrators got away with such a light sentence.
    Your research and gripping tale telling are second to non, thank you Kevin 🙏

    • @thehistorysquad
      @thehistorysquad  Před 2 měsíci +2

      Cheers Nick 👍🏻

    • @sarahalderman3126
      @sarahalderman3126 Před měsícem

      It is an incredible shame that these predators have ALWAYS gotten away with the countless atrocities that they continue to commit against girls and women.

  • @ashmaybe9634
    @ashmaybe9634 Před 2 měsíci +9

    You always tell the stories of the victims with great humanity. Thank you for that. And for not leaving out the gory details. They really do matter!. All the best.

  • @alandure
    @alandure Před měsícem +3

    Kevin Hicks is truly a national treasure. Thank you for providing such an exceptional window into a bygone era.

  • @JoGaPeach4259
    @JoGaPeach4259 Před 2 měsíci +8

    Kevin how in the world do you find these stories? You bring them to life!

  • @frankparis9408
    @frankparis9408 Před 2 měsíci +11

    Once more you pushed back the limits of horror! We are beyond madness here. Good story as usual.

  • @visualartsbyjr2464
    @visualartsbyjr2464 Před 2 měsíci +25

    Not to this extent, a couple of my foster brothers suffered greatly at the hands of their guardians. Heartbreaking that abuse like this still happens.
    Great video

  • @user-vd4jr3et8u
    @user-vd4jr3et8u Před měsícem +4

    The murder of Mary Clifford and the other cruel actions done to her before she died was a case for the death penalty for Elizabeth Brownrigg!

  • @kevinfoley8105
    @kevinfoley8105 Před 2 měsíci +8

    God bless you for the compassion you showed for those girls. May they rest in peace.

  • @ronaldbender7226
    @ronaldbender7226 Před 2 měsíci +9

    Thank you MR. Hicks. These sorts of historical stories and the analysis that you give them are wonderful, even if the subject matter is horrific. You do such a great job not only contextualizing them, but you give everything a reasonable weight and do not sensationalize parts that many others here on YT would. I also echo the sentiment from another commenter by saying thank you for naming and validating the victims. Kudos for all your videos and thank you!

  • @zoesolanki961
    @zoesolanki961 Před měsícem +3

    How the heck did the son and the husband only get 6 months in jail????!! Theu absolutely should have been given harsher sentances, that's disgraceful

  • @kesvir6476
    @kesvir6476 Před 2 měsíci +16

    I normally don’t comment, but this was one of the harder videos to listen to. Not because it is in anyway boring or dull; but because of the sheer disgust I felt towards this family’s actions and how unjust the punishments towards the males in the family felt.
    Though I did smirk when Elizabeth got her due and the manner in which she received it in full.
    I had never heard of this dark tale before today, and I thank you for shedding light on it, Kevin.

  • @karenboouk531
    @karenboouk531 Před 2 měsíci +10

    Hi Kevin I couldn't believe what I was hearing poor little girls. This was awful treatments for anyone to put up with. May their souls rest in peace. Thank you Kevin for bringing this our attention. A very interesting video as always. Love to you and your family. 🌹🌹🌹

  • @Mark_Bickerton
    @Mark_Bickerton Před 2 měsíci +8

    It was such a harrowing and tragic story, yet at the same time an epic one! Well researched and well told!

  • @catholiccrusader5328
    @catholiccrusader5328 Před 2 měsíci +9

    Thank you Mr. Hicks for your excellent stories, sir.

  • @jamesl9371
    @jamesl9371 Před 2 měsíci +7

    One girl escaped and they sent them another girl!! The society was evil

  • @stevefranklin9920
    @stevefranklin9920 Před 2 měsíci +7

    I’m glad you brought that point up about the poor girls, the victims, being largely forgotten! That is the sad truth in most cases and it should be the other way around!

  • @danielkarmy4893
    @danielkarmy4893 Před 2 měsíci +25

    You know, I'm an agnostic - but if it means that nameless monster has been screaming in agony in the depths of hell for the last 257 years, I will gladly believe. And if it means that Mary Clifford, Mary Jones, and Mary Mitchell, a young woman with more courage in her bones than a million men, are now somewhere in a peaceful, contented place, perhaps reading, chatting idly together and basking in the spring sunshine - then I will believe in a heartbeat.

    • @enerioffutt1881
      @enerioffutt1881 Před 2 měsíci +6

      I agree. I'm a pagan, and it's because of monsters like this that I do believe in Hell.

    • @Saffron-sugar
      @Saffron-sugar Před 2 měsíci +3

      So, you will believe in God, if it means there is a hell for bad people to suffer in?
      That makes no sense. Whether or not you like something doesn’t make it more or less real.
      You believe in something because you believe, not because it suits you.
      Also, I would hope the idea that your loved ones could be in Paradise would be more motivational than people you’ve never met suffering.
      You scare me, sir

    • @steves1015
      @steves1015 Před měsícem

      This is one of the problems I have with Christianity.
      The idea that someone can commit crimes for a maximum of about 70 years, and (compared to what Hell is supposed to be like) have a limited human level of cruelty, yet the perpetrators are then condemned to unimaginable horror for *eternity*!
      And then many folk will think this is just?!
      Wow... Just wow...
      Tbh with a heart like that, I would wonder if you would be likely to join them....

    • @madwhitehare3635
      @madwhitehare3635 Před měsícem

      @@steves1015...you need to read and understand what sin is and why Christ came. It's completely logical.

  • @punman5392
    @punman5392 Před 2 měsíci +18

    The abject poverty in London in the 18th and 19th centuries is horrific. I’m almost surprised it took as long as it did for the labor movement to catch on

    • @RichWoods23
      @RichWoods23 Před 2 měsíci +2

      There were multiple attempts over the centuries to improve English society by reorganising it, from the Peasants' Revolt, through to the Levellers, and on to the unionist movement inspired by the Tolpuddle Martyrs. Power is never surrendered willingly. The conscienceless few are rarely reluctant to abuse the principled many.

    • @StephanieElizabethMann
      @StephanieElizabethMann Před 2 měsíci +2

      I think the lack of action is due to many things. There was so much abuse of the young people in the situation as we have heard of. People who were aware of "groans and screaming" could not do anything of their own accord. The workhouse and constable had to be fetched and even then victims were hidden and perpetrators escaped. Like the countries populated by hundreds of millions of people no one sees the ones that go missing.

  • @aliyasim9671
    @aliyasim9671 Před 2 měsíci +4

    What a sadistic family. The younger son should have been arrested too as an accomplice.

  • @Katze5335
    @Katze5335 Před 2 měsíci +6

    You’re a great story teller Kevin, what a sad and expertly described true story. Keep up the good work, friend.

  • @T-ChillSilverandSuch
    @T-ChillSilverandSuch Před 2 měsíci +36

    Wow.. sounds like Elizabeth had some serious psychological issues after losing 13 out of 16 children.. she should not have been allowed to oversee those kids. Crazy to think how things used to be. On a lighter note, it’s always a good day when you upload, Kevin! Cheers!

    • @bas4903
      @bas4903 Před 2 měsíci +9

      Did she lose them or kill them?

    • @T-ChillSilverandSuch
      @T-ChillSilverandSuch Před 2 měsíci +7

      @@bas4903 oohhh good question! I hope she didn’t kill them but I wouldn’t put it past her with the way she acted.

    • @jackwright5862
      @jackwright5862 Před 2 měsíci +1

      Hi Kevin, another brilliant video despite the horrific crimes committed by Elizabeth, James and John Brownrigg and the unimaginable suffering of those poor girls. I’m from Wiltshire and I know there it’s lots of History here and I’m sure many fascinating stories connected to the county. Do you know of any in particular that jump out?

    • @mill2712
      @mill2712 Před měsícem

      ​@@T-ChillSilverandSuch
      That's a frightening thought. Perhaps she did lose them as child mortality was higher in 18th century London.
      Though it's possible that some died of neglect or even intentional foul play.

    • @sarahalderman3126
      @sarahalderman3126 Před měsícem

      Yes this is due to the abuse she experienced at the hands of the men around her. This is what abuse can do to a person.

  • @littlewoodimp
    @littlewoodimp Před 2 měsíci +9

    Not quite Downton Abbey was it? All those poor children, guilty of nothing other than being born poor.

    • @harkonen1000000
      @harkonen1000000 Před měsícem

      Downton Abbey is more fantasy than Lord of the Rings.

    • @littlewoodimp
      @littlewoodimp Před měsícem +1

      @@harkonen1000000 Disneyfied is my word for it.

  • @surgeonsergio6839
    @surgeonsergio6839 Před měsícem +4

    I wanna give the Marys a hug.😢

  • @trussell9899
    @trussell9899 Před 2 měsíci +10

    So happy to see new
    content from you! One of my favorite channels!❤

    • @trussell9899
      @trussell9899 Před 2 měsíci +2

      Well...now that I've watched it...not so happy. But I appreciate your telling the stories.

    • @thehistorysquad
      @thehistorysquad  Před 2 měsíci +1

      😜 I know what you mean, thanks 👍🏻

  • @davesheppard8797
    @davesheppard8797 Před 2 měsíci +11

    Hi Kev!
    Yet another riveting story mate. It always amazes me how people, can treat other people, in such a horrific way. Those girls really suffered!
    As per usual, this presentation was obviously meticulously researched. I waited to watch this until I got home, so I could watch it on my big TV rather than my phone. Keep the great stories coming please!
    My best wishes as always to you and Julie.
    Dave.

  • @derekstocker6661
    @derekstocker6661 Před 2 měsíci +5

    Very well done on this heart rending tale, how many possible similar cases were there over the years we can only surmise! RIP to the dear innocents.

  • @Celtopia
    @Celtopia Před 2 měsíci +8

    Thank you Kevin,.....fascinating as per usual,.....and beautifully obscure.

  • @wcfheadshots240
    @wcfheadshots240 Před 13 dny

    Thank you for not letting the victims be forgotten.

  • @jamesl9371
    @jamesl9371 Před 2 měsíci +4

    It was basically slavery. No wonder the cruelty crossed the Atlantic and into the violence of slavery and racism

    • @averycheesypotato
      @averycheesypotato Před měsícem

      Ironically, slavery was finally outlawed within the UK itself in the beginning of the 1800’s. It was seen as barbaric to treat humans as property. Yet for children & youths, human rights seemed non-existent still

  • @kenijonesESQ
    @kenijonesESQ Před 2 měsíci +8

    Wow brutal times, thanks for remembering the forgotten souls. Cheers Kevin, great story.

    • @Saffron-sugar
      @Saffron-sugar Před 2 měsíci +3

      Sylvia Marie Likens had a similar fate in the USA in 1965

  • @kariannstickle2708
    @kariannstickle2708 Před 2 měsíci +5

    Shit. I don’t know if I can make it through this one. I used to be a substitute teacher and I loved working with kids 13-15. Just a kid. STILL A CHILD. I don’t care the child marriage traditions and girls becoming moms at young ages. They’re children.
    Thank you so goddamn much for your continued dedicating to remembering and honoring the very humanity of these girls. Just girls. Not even young women yet. Girls.

    • @thehistorysquad
      @thehistorysquad  Před 2 měsíci +1

      It was tough doing the research for sure.

    • @sarahalderman3126
      @sarahalderman3126 Před měsícem

      @@thehistorysquadexactly. No wonder the "mother" went along with this predator. She was groomed and abused mercilessly and had to "help" or be treated in the same manner. Basically the story or plight of women all throughout history.

  • @kevinpiacente3456
    @kevinpiacente3456 Před 2 měsíci +1

    I gotta say this man is one heck of a story teller. Tells facts in chronological order. Doesn’t remove details.

  • @petercopley1242
    @petercopley1242 Před 2 měsíci +5

    Again Kevin another interesting story. It's unbelievable how some people can be so cruel. 👏

  • @thefuzzyone69
    @thefuzzyone69 Před 2 měsíci +6

    Kevin at it again, timing his videos to my bedtime so I get to learn something new before the end of the day

    • @thehistorysquad
      @thehistorysquad  Před 2 měsíci +2

      Hope it didn't give you nightmares.

    • @thefuzzyone69
      @thefuzzyone69 Před 2 měsíci +2

      @@thehistorysquad I didn't even look at the title, nor watch the video as I said this. I kicked back in bed after and started the video up and had that "Oh..." moment. Definitely still super interesting and well told story, but hoo boy that was a journey.

  • @omathitis8498
    @omathitis8498 Před 2 měsíci +12

    Another case of an Elizabeth hating Marys.

  • @ladyyuna2000
    @ladyyuna2000 Před měsícem +3

    💐💐RIP Mary Clifford (1753- 9 Aug 1767) (aged 14) you will truly be missed, and my prayers go out to you Mary jones and Mary Mitchell. 💐💐She died of gangrene (which many believed derived after being seen living in the Brownrigg's pig pens where she was covered in pig feces and blood) that had settled into her infected wounds.

  • @Lost_AtSea_
    @Lost_AtSea_ Před měsícem +2

    That family were nothing short of cowards. Truly a heartbreaking story. I hope Elizabeth’s ghost watched the dissection.

  • @brightantwerp
    @brightantwerp Před 2 měsíci +13

    When you tell stories about old London, it seems like hell on earth to me.

  • @user-ve7ji8zb8v
    @user-ve7ji8zb8v Před 27 dny +1

    Horrific and disgusting how sadistically cruel some people can be.

  • @calliecooke1817
    @calliecooke1817 Před 2 měsíci +5

    Lordy Kevin, you have a way of telling a tale. Thanks.

  • @lolirot93
    @lolirot93 Před 2 měsíci +17

    Reminds me of the Sylvia Likens case in America in the 50s/60s. Times change but people don't. Absolutely horrific. Thank you for the video, though. Is there any info on the surviving girl's life after?

    • @thehistorysquad
      @thehistorysquad  Před 2 měsíci +4

      Sadly not, I did some digging but couldn’t find anything, as I said they were largely lost to time 😕

    • @Saffron-sugar
      @Saffron-sugar Před 2 měsíci +4

      Yes! Reminded me of Sylvia Likens too. People talk about the brutal olden days, but has anything changed?

  • @ebathory2543
    @ebathory2543 Před měsícem +2

    ONE shilling!!!!?!! For such cruelty & murder?!! 😤🤬
    I just have to wonder….how many other children were treated so viciously but the perpetrators of those crimes were never caught? 😪😪

  • @loriegosnell9355
    @loriegosnell9355 Před měsícem +3

    From what I’ve learned about old England… it was the nastiest, most filthy place to be back then.

  • @user-sc4oz3tn2c
    @user-sc4oz3tn2c Před 2 měsíci +4

    Thank you for this intresting story,Mr Hicks.

  • @AijazAhmedthetrainer
    @AijazAhmedthetrainer Před 2 měsíci +3

    You really are a world class narrator your narrative could only made me visualise the brutality and sufferings of the poor girl.
    Being a lover of English language I have recommended your video to my students so that they can also learn that "every word makes a picture in the listener's mind".
    I'm from India and your narrative made me realise how much brutal the looters of England have been to us. And now they are the guardians of humanity.
    Sarcastic

  • @stephaniezickgraf9672
    @stephaniezickgraf9672 Před 2 měsíci +5

    It would be interesting to find out the history of children, especially poor children.
    Charles Dickens gave us an insight into life of those times, but I suspect reality may have been even worse.

  • @dorothywillis1
    @dorothywillis1 Před 2 měsíci +6

    With stories like this in recent history, no wonder Dickens created horrific nurses and midwives!

  • @nativeamericanfeather9948
    @nativeamericanfeather9948 Před 2 měsíci +2

    Thank you for keeping their names & story alive. May their souls RIP. Evil is amongst us

  • @raukawa4732
    @raukawa4732 Před měsícem +2

    I despise cruelty and these story has me feeling angry at the injustice but very well told, master narrator.

  • @russellcox1465
    @russellcox1465 Před 2 měsíci +6

    Brilliant video Kevin thank you, very distressing and sad but interesting none the less 😊

  • @paperroutee
    @paperroutee Před 2 měsíci

    wow, amazing coverage. all the photos too really add to the depth of this case.

  • @nicholasjeremy56
    @nicholasjeremy56 Před měsícem +2

    Sadistic family. Cruel is an understatement for the family. I can’t believe the whole family would agree to such a brutal act. Sickening case.

  • @jennyzarate7086
    @jennyzarate7086 Před měsícem +1

    Great video!!! Thank you!!

  • @Ally_Sammons
    @Ally_Sammons Před měsícem +3

    I remember this case from when I first found it in middle school. It's one of my favorites and while it's an incredibly sad and tragic case and I agree that we as a society seem to remember the perpetrators themselves more so than the victims and it really isn't fair and it feels incredibly unjust, I can't help but see a silver lining to that. I didn't recognize Elizabeth Brownrigg when I clicked this video and heard her name, but I recognized Mary Clifford immediately then Mary Mitchell and Mary Jones right after. Only then did I remember Elizabeth. While it's not good enough at any level, I can't help but think about others like me who don't remember Elizabeth Brownrigg, but the girls themselves. Even if it's just Mary Clifford. One is better than none and infinitely better than only remembering their tormentor and, in Mary Clifford's case, murderer.

    • @thehistorysquad
      @thehistorysquad  Před měsícem

      Yes, it's interesting. We gave quite some consideration to the title, but ended up having to use brownrigg unfortunately, because the keywords ranked much higher than Mary Clifford 😏

  • @conniepritchardreinhardt9978

    I think I am addicted to your stories. Thank you for sharing them. God speed.

  • @xlilsnailx
    @xlilsnailx Před 2 měsíci +2

    This was hard to get through, but so important to remember. People can be such monsters.

  • @catherinemerrill5511
    @catherinemerrill5511 Před 2 měsíci +4

    She had 16 children, only 3 of whom survived? I know there were horrible circumstances that could have caused that, but I am convinced she caused the deaths of some of her own babies. RIP little ones.